Grape Harvest and Thoughts on September Garden Work

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  • The first wave of the 2023 Grape Harvest is in full swing! I'm making a big batch of grape jelly and also freezing grape juice.
    When we're planning a permaculture garden, considering 1. How much time and energy harvesting will take 2. How much time processing the harvest will take 3. How much we need to grow to meet the needs of our household and 4. How much the household's needs and the garden's productivity change over time are incredibly important elements in crafting a successful garden design.
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  • @greenwitchnutrition7860
    @greenwitchnutrition7860 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would love to see more videos about how you are storing/preserving your harvests for later use.

  • @barbarasimoes9463
    @barbarasimoes9463 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Two years ago, I took the plunge and decided to get a steam juicer especially for the grapes. It worked beautifully and saved a lot of time in squishing, skinning and straining the fruit. This spring we had a horrible cold snap in early spring as things were starting up. No grapes...I was so looking forward to the juice through the winter. It's so concentrated that I mix it 1:1 with water when I go to drink it. The steam juice is an investment of about $100, if that, but if you value your labor, it might be worth it. I'm planning on using it with Cornelian cherries and other fruit as well.
    I'm still harvesting about a quart of strawberries every other day, and am just amazed at how long that small amount takes to prep for the fridge! I totally get what you're saying about time being a consideration in planning what and how much to plant. I enjoy the gardening and love the harvesting, but the time to process needs to be considered so that you don't start resenting it. What good is it to have twenty fruit trees if you can only harvest the equivalent of one?! When I was planning my garden, I made a chart: fruit down one side and ripening times across the top. It was important to me to spread it out; at the time, I was thinking more about having fresh fruit across a large span of time, but I also knew that it would help with not being inundated all at once with everything. I will start with honeyberries and rhubarb in the spring and end with persimmons, pawpaws and medlar in December/January. That's a ten month spread...not bad!

  • @humbledesignspermaculture1611
    @humbledesignspermaculture1611 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A really useful tool for planning what you plant is a harvest calendar. Make a table with the months of the year down the side and the fruiting plants you have or want across the top. Shade in the months when each plant is producing. Then you can see the double-ups or the months when you’ll have both a lot of fruit and a lot of work, as well as the gaps when you’ll have nothing. You can either cover those gaps by planting something that fruits then, or preserve fruit from gluts.
    In a country Australia, where we have an endless growing season, it’s possible to have fresh fruit all year without the need to preserve unless you like jam on your toast. It means that I only pick the very best varieties to grow because I need to conserve space. So even though I could grow low-chill apples, I don’t because they don’t taste as good as the peaches that are ready at the same time. In winter I don’t need much preserved stonefruit because I’m too busy eating tangelos and oranges. You can use the same tool for veggies, pollinator plants, flowers for bees, even staple crops. It’s great if you’re a visual learner

  • @growinginportland
    @growinginportland ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love this time of year in Portland. I’ve been picking up stuff from Tony’s Garden and Portland Nursery. It’s all on sale. September is a great time to get stuff on sale to plant stuff for next year. Lots of hard work but so worth it. Planting 3 varieties of grapes but will have to wait a few years to enjoy. Enjoy the harvest.

  • @poetryandpermaculture
    @poetryandpermaculture ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so timely: my son is now a freshman in college (commuting, so still at home), my stepson is headed off to a residential college. My garden is only now starting to come into some maturity of productivity (and I just planted my long-awaited tiny orchard yesterday). I've been thinking so much about what it is going to mean when both of our boys are gone, or when we have to sell this property (30 steps up the front door probably means we can't live here forever, even though I desperately want to) and I have to start over, how to do permaculture and feed my family but also my community. This has definitely been top of mind for me this week as I've been pickling and freezing and piling squash in an ever growing pile on our counter. We have so many houseless neighbors that I want to find a way to use my surplus to serve them in a way that they can use and is sustainable for all of us.

  • @hendyappleton5701
    @hendyappleton5701 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I too struggle with the pull between "I want to grow all the plants" and "can I use what I've planted?" My apple harvest this year is a great example... and I have 5 more trees that will come into production over the next couple of years! There's only so much applesauce/apple pie/dried apples/fresh and hard cider a family of four can consume. I need to get that root cellar built...

  • @rolandawenting397
    @rolandawenting397 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes such a busy time of year. Sitting out now for a bit and watching your video, as I just sliced my thumb on the mandolin slicing peppers for drying.
    Im making raspberry juice to clear our my freezer, so I can stuff in my plums, and cauliflower. I was very fortunate to find a juice steamer in a thrift shop a few years ago, and cannot recommend enough!
    Also on my list is salsa, cauliflower pickles, onion relish, beet pickles and more(!) canned green beans. Still want to freeze some corn too.
    Thankful of the bounty here in the Fraser Valley of British Columbia but will be glad of the rest. I am planning on getting a rare for me manicure to celebrate the end of harvest.😊 I know Im not the only one with wretched looking hands right now!

  • @wiwingmargahayu6831
    @wiwingmargahayu6831 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow

  • @do4699
    @do4699 ปีที่แล้ว

    You might want to get a steam juicer. It's so much easier to make fruit juices and the juice is less watery. You don't have to stem the grapes. We got one for our gooseberries but ended up using it for many fruits. My favorite combination for jelly is gooseberries-strawberry jelly. We'd also juice greenish apples, which can be used in place of pectin in many jellies.

  • @mamaknitte_r
    @mamaknitte_r ปีที่แล้ว

  • @permiebird937
    @permiebird937 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Canadace grape isn't ripe enough to dehydrate yet, they make a fantastic raisins similar to red flame raisins. I have a second grape that is a red slipskin, the chickens and ducks won't eat it, they prefer the Canadace. The grapes you are processing on this video looks like the Concords that my parents grew.

  • @dawnhood3666
    @dawnhood3666 ปีที่แล้ว

    🍇🍇🍇

  • @marksando3082
    @marksando3082 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny, our plum tree didn't set any fruit this year.

  • @dfhepner
    @dfhepner ปีที่แล้ว

    Are they Concord grapes?

  • @ecocentrichomestead6783
    @ecocentrichomestead6783 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think Bill Mollison taught that permaculture is a way to reduce the amount of labor needed.
    His goal was to teach a sustainable way to produce food. The amount of labor wasn't considered.
    Permaculture is about methods and techniques of growing food that doesn't degrade the ecosystem and, in many cases, improves it.
    Reducing labor is what the traditional farming practices are about.

    • @barbarasimoes9463
      @barbarasimoes9463 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      While that's true, I think her goal was to point out to newbies that this needs to be figured into the equation of the time allotted to this form of gardening.

    • @ecocentrichomestead6783
      @ecocentrichomestead6783 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barbarasimoes9463 Angela normally don't promote permaculture as low labor gardening. She mentioned that idea in this video. It is a popular misconception that many people use to promote permaculture. So, when it's mentioned, I like to emphasize the fact that living with nature isn't about reducing labor.

    • @barbarasimoes9463
      @barbarasimoes9463 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't understand why this is a response to what I wrote.@@ecocentrichomestead6783

  • @amylodato2342
    @amylodato2342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate these thoughts but it's so unclear what you would have done differently or how you could have met your needs now without being overabundant in the future. What's the actual advice?

  • @fredflintstoner2081
    @fredflintstoner2081 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. Portland?You forgot to discuss the fun and excitement of chasing homeless dudes out of your permaculture garden. Just kidding, just kidding, everybody calm down.