Best Budget IEM's 2020 for MUSICIANS (universal fit IN EAR MONITORS)
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- This video is primarily for musicians and audio engineers looking for inexpensive reference in ear monitors. I chose these three options because they 1) have a full frequency spectrum, 2) have neutral reference sound signatures 3) have a large soundstage for good separation of instruments. While these also sound great as headphones for listening to your favorite music, I chose these specifically for musicians and audio engineers to add to their collection of pro audio reference gear. Here are the IEM's mentioned in this video: (prices are subject to change without notice, for more information and current pricing, see links below)
Remember, if you want to get the most sound out of these in ear monitors, you NEED memory foam ear tips, the included silicone tips won't work for musicians. These all require T500 size tips. Here are the ones I use:
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1) BEST OVERALL VALUE: KBear KB06
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2) BEST for RHYTHM SECTION PLAYERS: CCA C12
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3) BEST for ALL OTHER INSTRUMENTS AND VOCALISTS:
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Foam tips aren't necessarily better. Yes, they give better isolation, but if silicone tips give you enough, they're actually more balanced than foam tips. The tubular nature of the foam tip core actually boosts lower frequencies which might be much for some and more desirable for others. Also, in a live setting, it can be useful to have silicone tips that you can very quickly and easily take on and off compared to having to squeeze foam tips every time you want to put them in.
If you're an audiophile this video is not for you! I have a lot of respect for you putting this at the very start of the video. I been looking at different IEM's and this was a random recommend. That you warned this is more for musicians and not just music lovers is very respectful of the many people who may stumble across the video.
"look at this graph " ahahhahahaha I'm dead, bro!
This killed me! hahaha
I got a CCA C12; it has the best fit in my ear and it sounds great. I admit that I bought my IEMs because you have recommended it in this channel. I don't regret buying them.
how's the sound quality?
@@joeyfalcone_ It is somewhat V Shape but not too bassy. But I noticed that if I use memory foam tips, the bass is enhanced.
I recommended TFZ Series 2 (non-pro). It's true all-rounder IEM under 50$ on stage or mixing or DJ. Sound balance and isolate well. Very comfortable even use stock tips.
KZ usually boost the base in their iems just a tad. Its nothing crazy and usually is really tastefully done, but its definately there.
Now we need a 2021 version!
I just received the cca c16 today from your previous video hahahahah they sound pretty good
Those are still amazing. No need to upgrade from this list unless you want a backup pair. I still love my c16’s
Can testify to the same. C16s are still absolutely insane for what you’re getting for the price and accuracy of reproduction.
oh. You just solved my christmas dilemma on what to get my wife. A new pair of in-ears monitors. major brownie points!!
Got a few things I'll add to the list of recommended iem related gear. The shure aptx hd bluetooth adapter is now only $50 and sounds excellent for iems that use mmcx connection. Unfortunately for two pin connection the only bluetooth I've tried and found so far is the kz aptx hd cable and the trn bt10 aptx wich is more stable with better battery life but doesn't sound as nice. For. Hardwired cable upgrades the linsoul trippowin 8 core and 16 core cables are the best affordable upgrade cables I've tried at around $16 for the 8 core and $20 for the 16 core cable. For iem wireless the xvive is a solid option for mono mix and the audio 2000 system is the best affordable choice for stereo. For eartips for universal fit as a alternative and more durable choice to the memory foam comply tips I recommend the spin fit twin blade tips or any triple flange tips. For custom mold iem's in the Us I recommend Anthem five iem's their dual driver set is $158 shipped and they sound excellent the new quads are $400 wich is abit steep but based on the dual drivers i can imagine for those willing to spend a bit extra they will be a worthy upgrade.
I’m a bass player I sold my Shure 215, KZ ZS10, KZ ZS 10 Pro, C10 for C12, the best decision coz you feel the upgrade in sound stage and sparkling sweet treble compared to C10.
From all these IEMS that u have mentioned which one was the best ?
How do these compare in sound isolation?
I would like to say that sound quality is not about how many driver u can fit into an iem, it is about how well u can tune them. I own a KZ ZS10 pro and Moondrop KXXS. KXXS sells for $180 USD despite it is using only 1DD. Even at this price tag I would still say it is a worth it buy. It outperforms not only KZ but lots of multi BA iem I have tried their demo set at the store. The disadvantage of single dynamic is the treble clarity at the extreme end of the treble how much this matter depends on how u are planning to use the iem.
I'd recommend, that unless you're looking specifically for wired iems, that you spend the extra and buy the Samsung Galaxy buds + or newest Apple airpods pro....
These things are super convenient, comfy, and offer higher quality and Fidelity sound than everything on this list.
Out of the the box, their audio profile nearly perfectly follows a neutral curvature, the harmonic distortion values, lfe, imaging etc etc all excellent...
My understanding is Bluetooth simply has too much latency for musicians. I could be wrong, but I did search YT a while back to see if any live performers use BT, the answer was No.
@@bassedtaz yeah I thought that much...but otherwise, audiophiles would have no complaints
Hi, I maybe wrong but I think the graph for the CCA C12 used in the video is actually from the Fearless Crinacle Dawn, might wanna check that one, nevertheless yeah all these are very good IEMs
Shoot. You’re absolutely correct. I should’ve double checked that. Oh well, the c12’s really aren’t that far off so I’ll call it good still I guess. Everything I said about them rings true, scooped mids, still more neutral than shure se215’s, large sound stage, great for rhythm section players
@@GunsandGuitars CCA C12 graph looks exactly like Shure SE215 in the mids with the same scoop.
You're trying to prove a point with fake information.
what are the different between the cca ca16 and th cca ca12
what are the difference
Best is DIY if you know what you are doing, just DIYed a Sonion 3800+knowles twfk 4 drivers IEM(HD audio from 10hz to 40khz) with a REALLY THICK(5mm diameter) 8 core silver plated copper cable for less than 90 bucks.
From my personal experience foam tips has the most neutral sounds with best accuracy as it doesn't create any pressure between your eardrums and the iem, but I prefer triple flange tips for the deep fit in ear that gives extra bass and better clarity.
Was looking for this! Great content bro!
Great to have your recommendations again. Great recs by the way.
And hey cant wait for the budget CIEMs.
These are such great reviews! Very helpful
Loving my new CCA C12's. I play bass and they do a great job.
Good video, great reviews. felt like i had to really listen through the bass guitar music to hear what you were saying
I got the cca 12s a while ago and the mesh that covers sound hole just fell out. Otherwise its been great
Which mesh?¿
Love all your videos :) and all the 3 IEM videos are superb :) Thank You!
Based on your video, I bought the Tin Hifi headphones. Awesome!
kbear kb06 are not available anymore,. what is their last model suitable for guitarists ?
I know this is an old video, but I stumbled onto it in my search for my first set of IEMs. I'm a guitarist, and for my first set, I'd like to stay below $100...if I end up like IEMS and we're gigging enough, I may upgrade or get customs later. I've seen CCA C12, KZ ZS10 Pro and BASN Master/MMCX as options, along with a few Simgots and Tins. It's all pretty overwhelming, to be honest. The big concern for me is my smallish ears. They're not noteworthy small, just on the smaller side. So fit will be a concern. Anyway, I'm just wondering if you're still testing IEMs and if so, what recommendations you have for a guitarist with smaller ears. Thanks!
This video was very helpful but I'm MOST appreciative for you introducing me to Worshicken. 😂 Thank you so much. 😄
The video im waiting for. Thanks!!!!!!
I'd love to buy a pair of the kb06 buds with your affiliate link, unfortunately, it links to kz zsr instead.
Thank you so much for this video, super informative and you helped me make a purchase on the CCA C12! I'm a professional bass player, but in need of some in-ears for my Twitch streaming, so I can't wait to get these through, currently using my DTX 990 headphones but they are not the most comfortable for performance!
So? Do you approve the CCA C12?
Should I get them?
Im a bass player too. Which one is better KZ ZS10 Pro or CCA C12? God Bless you man.
The right ear of my CCA C12 died today. I only had them for about 4 months.
Have to try theseeeee🙌🏾🙌🏾 thnx too ur vids im holed to the KZ's
Nice video here... I'm a bass player and based on your review i'm considering to get a pair of CCA C12.... but what about CCA C16? Did you check them? Thanks in advance for reply....
I’m a bass player I sold my C10 for C12, the best decision coz you feel the upgrade in sound stage and sparkling sweet treble compared to C10.
I was looking for an iem for vocalist but also a universal fit, which one do you think its the best?
Hi. I am a lead guitar player according to you which IEM in budget should I buy.
Did you make the custom mold iem video?
And I just watched this 2 years later... I'm alittle late on the extra iems
The link to the KBear KB06 is linked to KZ ZSR please fix thanks!
Dan, Great info. Thank you!
Ohh, good, I don't know how I missed this video but my ZS6s had a bit of an ouchie two weeks ago. Guess I'll watch the custom molds before I order a set of C12s...
hey great video, which one would you recommend for a dj ? i like punchy deep bass sound.
Can you do an episode for over ear monitors for recording?
The Shure SRH840s are pretty great.
Beyerdynamic DT 770s all day, every day. Price AND precision industry standard sound reproduction.
oh, I though I narrowed down my search to the Shure 215 and Sennheiser IE40.. Back to the drawing board I guess..
What would you recommend for a club dj? Should be needing more lows or mids? Also what about the vid about budget
custom IEM's?
Very helpful
Thanks
Hi GnG, which one is you most recommended? As10 or c12? I play drum and guitar. I love to listen detail in songs like I can listen to each instruments. Or any other recommendation?
Question, for a bass player who is also a lead vocalist, what would you choose? an overall frequency IEM pair or some bass focused ones?
Are you gonna be doing one of these for 2021? Or has the market not changed too much
As a touring bassist do I buy the iem with it with out the mic? I know it’s a noob question but I have no idea lol! Thank you for your videos!!
I always do without the mic to ensure it works with my wireless system or headphone amplifiers
Yeah, I would also follow what was already replied. Unless you also plan to use them with your phone, or for video game chat, I don't see a great application for with the mic really. Hope that helps!
@@nickagervasi inline mics are fine for home use and listening to music but I do not recommend them for live use. If you do order it with one I'd also buy a additional upgrade cable for live use.
@@ironblast5 Yup, I agree. Since the application says "as a touring bassist" I would stick to NO MIC.
Live sound engineer here - 100% no mic!!
With any pro audio connection for live mixing, the female headphone inlet will always be TRS, instead of TRRS (which is what the male end on a headphone with a mic always has). While male TRRS will usually “work” when plugged into pro-audio gear’s female TRS connection, it not only is not as reliable but also more prone to noise/interference because the mic pole sends signal instead of receiving signal like the L & R poles. (If you look at the 1/8 inch male connector on any set of headphones with an in-line mic, you’ll be able to identify TRRS: it has an extra line (or “pole”) around it. 1 is Left, 1 is Right, 1 is Mic. In TRS connections, just 2 poles, 1 for Left, 1 for Right. You want to make a solid connection on just those 2 L & R poles, which is why sometimes that 3rd mic pole not only will mess with the signal, it can simply just not work at all when you fully plug it in.. causing you to have to make a weak connection just to hear sound out of your headphones. BTW.. speaking from experience with a lot of high schoolers trying to bring in their Skull Candies as IEMs 🤣🤣).
In short, for pro audio applications such as yours, always no mic. 🤘
Can I just buy/get those sir? So I can save little bit more
which model is best for a vocalist?
Okay Cameron, I guess I'm third. What about Sony's? For High freqks?
Kbear kb06 or tin hifi t4 best for electric guitar player?
So if you are a metal guitarist would you go with CCA C16 or those Tin T4?
That’s a hard one. The c16 have enormous sound stage with great separation of instruments, but they have scooped mids and I think as a guitar player you won’t want that. I think the tin t4 will be better for you since it’s more neutral and has nice tight bass which would be great for metal.
My Daughter is deaf and sings and plays keys... I need to get her something for in ear, What do you recommend?
I just ordered the KB06s. Will see how they work out.
how are they?
I actually like them. They are very comfortable and they sound pretty decent. For the $28 I paid, they are well worth it.
Hey, when I look up the KBear in ears it says they are dual driver, and I don’t know much about in ear technology - so 2 questions: 1) which is true and 2) what’s the difference? And bonus question: 3) using in ear monitors as lead singer, what do I really need anyway?
So do you advise to buy the Tin4 for live performance the best?
What do you think about them again the new kz zax?!
How do the cca c12 compare to the c16? and what about the fit?
I've had a pair of cca c10 for a while and they are amazing and all, but as a drummer I have to re insert them between songs, even with the foam tips, maybe I'm using the wrong size tips I don´t know...
I play elek guitar in my church witch one ,? Pls help
I can't find where to buy KB06...anybody have a link?
Thanks! Question: what inner size do the ear tips have to be for the CCA c12? Btw: your link leads to the c10's in stead of the c12's.
You want t500 size ear tips. Just double checked the link and it goes to the c12’s for me
Sir, iem top list for 2022?
Bought the zs10 pro a couplenof months ago is there anything better than that in the budget line? Gonna gift it to someone.
Bump
I love mids and highs kinda boosted as a music listener, I'm currently using kz zst pros and I want a pair of a backup headphones, what would you recommend for that (max 30 dollars)
What the best for guitar player sir?
So, are any of these appropriate for use with Hi Res DAP's???
please do one for audiophiles and casual listeners .. please please please
Honestly i think the only difference in terms of criteria would be that the headphones aren't required to have neutral sound
how about the KZ ZSX? is it just the same as the CCA C12? coz it also has 12 units
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I am a bass player did I win a free CCA C12?
How many decibels do these block?
So I’m like a newbie when it comes to this. Lol. I’m a bass player, what am I looking for?
Man, if you like your bass, i highly recommend tfz no.3.. It gives you an impactful,rumbling bass when called for yet mids and highs are clear. You both get the bass and the details.
But it's a bit big though coz it houses a 13mm tesla dynamic driver. It cost a $100+ tho..
If you are on the budget, that cca12 will give you what you are looking for.
What do you think about the kz zsx
Can you offer any cheaper alternative for the Tin Audio IEMs suitable for small ear canals?
The kbear kb06 mentioned in this video is good for smaller ears as well. I forgot to say that in the video
@@GunsandGuitars thanks. Love your work!
Also recommend the TRN V80’s from Dan’s 2018 review. Have had almost 50 different people from all age groups, etc use them with maybe a mere 2 or 3 people not being able to stay in. That being said, those people all had ears that nearly nothing fit in 🤣
What about the TRN BA5?
I would like to buy the 28.00 dollar pair of earbuds tell where to buy them
There is a link to purchase in the description! Also, I’m removing your comment with your address for your safety. If you are a $10+ Patreon then send me a private message through Patreon!
Y'know, If you're hesitant for a set of IEMs, try out the Shures se215s. It's under $100, and it's a Shure, so you know you're getting a solid piece of gear. 👍🏼
I can't agree as the $18 kz sets I've owned smoked my se215 sets you are 100% paying for the name brand. Ive since sold both sets of my se215's and bought iem's that are abit more but a substantial upgrade in sound quality and fit.
@@ironblast5 Everyone has their own preferences; I prefer my se215s because they provide excellent isolation for drums while the the Kzs kept falling out and don't.
100% nah.. you should keep looking and listening to ones and find one that fits your ear better. I guarantee you’ll be astounded.
Basically anything dual driver from any brand under $20 or $30 on Amazon will blow the SE’s out of the water, and I’ve listened to 15+ dual driver and up IEMs and compared to the shure’s myself time and time again.
I love Shure, they are by far the most incredible Mic manufacturer on the planet and scarcely do I use or recommend anything but Shure mics for just about any musical application on planet earth. But for anything else, IEMs and headphones included, they are always very very lackluster and overpriced for what you get.
Just my 2 cents. Don’t give up on the search. I’d recommend dropping a measly $28 bucks on these KBears based on Dan’s review but also because their shape is a little smaller than the KZs you tried, which means you’ll also want to stay away from the C12 because they are larger as well. I would also recommend the TRN V80s. They’re an all metal and more compact design and they’ve stayed in and fit well in probably 95% of the 30+ musicians I bought them for at my church (fit-ability was a huge factor in my decision.. but the V80s on top of that just sound gorgeous.. ESPECIALLY FOR A DRUMMER! The low end is extremely punchy AND clean!) This was one of Dan’s top recommendations back in his 2018 vids and my life was changed forever hearing what 4 drivers sounded like! Again remember we’re talking 1 driver in the Shure’s vs 4 in the V80s or 3 in the KBears and so on.
Hope this helps!
@@joshwise1369 Definitely does, Cheers!
BASN Bmaster? Some one? no?
Love the videos but MORE BASSSSSSSSS
"If you're an audiophile this video is not for you" proceeds to list what musicians want out of IEM's, thinking to myself, Why TF wouldn't a audiophile want those things. 🤦♂️
If I'm mixing for accuracy I wouldn't want the headphones to give a misrepresentation of the true audio.
@@em3sis that excludes most chi-fi
yeah that was the stupidest thing i heard this week
I'm not and audiophile but i dont want artificially boosted audio. I'm also not made of money, but I have had a hard time finding anything that comes close to AKG for the price. Dont get me wrong though. On a budget here. I would love some higher quality ears. But AKG rocks it for me.
not all audiophiles are for neutral sounds.
Are you planning to do a 2021 update? I'm really interested to see what you would think of the Fiio FA1 which uses a single Knowles BA and has a solid mould vs a hollow one.
Custom molded was something I was considering. Can't wait for the next video.
Yeah, CCA C12 is really good!
Grande Lilo! Sou fã do seu canal há muito tempo, não sabia que vc TB era audiophile! Tô pensando em comprar um desse, vc acha que o smartphone empurra bem ele? Grande abraço!
@@EduRB99 empurra fácil, sensibilidade bem alta, compre tranquilo
@@LiloVLOG valeu irmão, tamu junto! Abração!!!
I have c12 and I love it. I’m getting the t4 to compare
Listening to this with my KZ ZSN Pro featured in your 2019 video.
Everybody always talks over the bass solo...
Finally there is a day when I don’t have to use my 6 year old earphones as IEMs
The graph you show is from "Fearless x crinacle Dawn", NOT! CCA C12.
The link to the best overall pick (the KBEAR Kb06) doesn’t seem to be working... it’s directing me to some KZ ZSR ones... they also look totally different than the ones he’s showing... am I missing something?
I tried searching for the KBEAR KB06 on amazon with no luck. Not sure if they got bought out or what
Do you have a video for the wireless system itself that could be used with these IEM's ?
Would you still recommend the KZ ZS10 Pro up to now? I'm into recording guitars and vocals, bro.
Yes. Yes. And HELL YES.
@@angelicaamora11 yea! 🖐️
My CCA C-10s are still going strong, but being so cheap, some of these are something to consider.
I’m a bass player I sold my C10 for C12, the best decision coz you feel the upgrade in sound stage and sparkling sweet treble compared to C10.
What ones would you say were better the CCA 12s or CCA 16s?
Wait a minute...... ARE YOU THE WORSHICKEN???????
No I’m not. But it makes me chuckle every time.
Why would you say that
Hey Dan, have you ever tried doing the custom molds for your in ears using custom fit ear plugs? I just tried it with a pair of my in ears and the fit is amazing! I always find the memory foam tips tire out my ears after and hour or so of recording, but this solves the problem for me
Which custom molds for what IEM do you use?
Kbear and csv also doesnt available anywhere :/ cab you do a updated top 3 please? :)
Yes I’m working on it now!
Well next week custom molded iem. You're a diy man, aren't you? You can your own with a pair of iem that you have laying around and a custom molded earplugs kit(mostly silicone molding) that cost around 10-15 $. You'll receive a kit to make your own custom earplugs. Just follow the first steps and when you put the silicone in your ear just put your iem in and wait 10 minutes for the silicone to harden. Than pull out the ear plugs and drill a small hole in the ear plug(remember to remove your in ears first;) for the sound and there's a set of costum iem for 10$ no iem included or 80$ including the cca c16. I've done this today and they fit really good.
Pro tip: when you open your mouth your ear canal is bigger. So when you put the silicone in make sure you have your mouth wide open for the 10 minutes. Than the in ears fit just a little better
Nice tip! I think I need to try this
@@GunsandGuitars hope your results are as good as mine! Be careful when you put in the in ears. If they are not in the middle of the mold the plugs can be a little thin on one side. Not a huge problem but that's where they can break first. Happened to me but they fit just as good as before. Only problem is a little crack. Better save than sorry. Good luck man!
Guns and Guitars You definitely should Dan! This would be an amazing thing to see a DIY on if it ended up working and you liked the results..!!
Jannes Van der veen What kit did you buy? And how did you prevent silicon from getting inside the inner part of the IEM when you shoved them into your ears while it was still mouldable? Wanting to attempt this myself and was mainly curious on being cautious on that specifically. 10 mistake is better than a $80 mistake including the IEMs haha.
@@joshwise1369 The earmold kit can definitely get in the grill on the IEM nozzle. Happened to me and I had to pry the grill off. Personally, I didn't like the fit with the earmold kit around my IEMs....feels cheap and sweat builds up and makes a squish around year ears. There are places that make custom molds to fit certain IEMs. ADV Sound has a long list that includes Chifi and can do it for $100 around Black Friday.
the BASN Bmaster are a great pair. 3 drivers, and sound pretty damn good!
UPDATE: I bought the CCA C12 and man do they blow the Basn's out of the water. I would like to point out I've had a pair of 64Audio V6's since 2013.
So which is better according to you? The basn bmaster or the c12? English isn’t my mother tongue. I’m not quite sure what you meant there 😂
@@mozza159 depends what you want. The BASN. Boaster are great. But if you want more low end in your headphones the c12’s are great. If you are willing to spend $99 the sennheiser ie 100 pro are fantastic.
@@JeremyLeech Thanks for your reply. I’m a bass player and I’ll be playing big stages in the upcoming months. Which one would you suggest? Thanks again
@@JeremyLeech are the Sennheisers a notable upgrade from the C12s? Also how do those compare to the 64Audios?
@@josuastangl7140 I would say so yes. It seems there’s more clarity. But it’s subjective. As far as the 64 audio difference, 64audio is definitely better. But those are 6 driver custom molded. Plus it’s $99 vs around $1200 now I think. I got them for around $750 I think back in 2013
Hi,
Thank you for the ever so helpful videos of budget IEMs for (church) musicians who don't have deep pockets 😁
I have a question. I'm a bass player myself and is looking to get one pair of these IEMs - I'm contemplating between CCA C12 and those of Tin HiFi. Do you think Tin T4 or Tin T2+ would be suitable for bass players? Some of the reasons of the contemplation are their form factor (minimal) and the cable that comes with them.
Thanks in advance!
DAN!!! Love your vids, btw. Came back to this vid I remembered you did about good budget friendly IEMs. Just ordered those CCA C12 and the foam buds. Thanks for the review, It was very comprehensive. Hoping they get here soon. Cant wait to try them out. Fellow bassist here!. Peace! E
A great set of in ears makes a huge difference. Obviously, I use mine to gig but they are so much more than that. There is no way I would ever get Bluetooth buds. I have a small Bluetooth receiver that I plug my in ears into and I’m able to listen to Dan talking on my iPad as I clean the kitchen.
Haha I do the same thing! I love having a little bt dongle that turns any headphones into bluetooth
My Samsung HS3000 is amazing! Been using it for years (got to have that apt-X support).
What do you think about the blon3? Also I don't like to shape of the Tin hifi. I prefer an over the ear shape. What other recommendation do you have? Thanks