I love how Milbury goes "The team's not been good.." Funny part is that at this point they actually had a pretty good talent base. Consider the fact that they drafted: D- Redden, Chara, Kasparaitis, McCabe Forwards - Bertuzzi, Palffy, Green, Dumont Goalie - Luongo, Salo Let's assume they don't take DiPetrio in 2000 and instead draft Gaborik/Heatley, and they don't trade Chara and the 2001 1st for Yashin. Final team would have been thus: D - Redden, Chara, Kasparitis, McCabe F - Bertuzzi, Palffy, Green, Dumont, Gaborik/Heatley, Spezza G - Luongo, Salo That's amazing. Of course, Milbury, being Milbury, found ways to get rid of virtually ALL of that talent.
I've seen this part before I'd love to see part 2. Had this recorded on vhs back in the day and was never able to catch part 2. With Tivo these days I wouldn't have that problem now.
Many great players have had long and success careers in the NHL without winning the Stanley Cup. Thornton is one of them. The fact that he's still in the game 15 years later and commanding the salary he does ultimately means he made it.
The wheelers and dealers of the NHL. You never know how a draft will ultimately pan out. Some succeed, some don't. At the end of the day, it a gamble. You can only go based on statistics and how the prospect is currently performing at that time. It's interesting to see how those behind the scenes make the tough decisions to choose which new guy they want.
I would love to know how that guy Phil first got that job to carry the cup around he's been doing it forever. I really doubt its a job that anyone that's qualified could get I'm sure he is friends or knows someone who knows someone who's a owner or something. I guess its all about who you know and who you blow.
Mike Milbury - "We're in desperate need of a new arena." Holy crap does time ever fly, this was released in like what, 1997, 1998? Get the Isles out of Nassau!
Ya i debated it also but really his stats prove he was worth it. He does disappear in the playoffs and his San Jose team seems to follow his lead and underperform. They have had some good teams and havent won anything
I thought only those who won the cup had the right to raise it above their heads.....guess that's just old school. But in all honesty, if (in my childhood's wildest dreams) I had won it, I'd give that privilege to my dad (and mom).
@@SmoothCriminal12 Well. He traded Chara and his 1st pick to Ottawa for Alexei Yashin. That pick turned out to be 1st overall and it was Jason Spezza. He also drafted Rick DiPietro 1st overall, who turned out to be... Somewhat injury prone. And with that goalie in the bank, he traded Luongo AND Olli Jokinen to Florida for basically nothing (Parrish and Kvasha). Both turned out to be great players for Florida. One of them still is :) Trading Todd Bertuzzi, Bryan McCabe and the pick Vancouver drafted Jarkko Ruutu with to Vancouver for an aging Trevor Linden. He also traded Chris Osgood to St.Louis and Osgood performed well immediately. And traded a rising star Bryan Berard (until his injury) to Toronto for Felix Potvin. Signed DiPietro to his batshit insane contract. And signed Yashin to a 10 year 90 million contract (which was massive at that time). He's made some really REALLY bad decisions over the years.
Mike GIllis takes that award. Takes a team with the least GA in the league and trades away BOTH goalies in one of the biggest farces in NHL history. Turns a presidents trophy team into nothing in the span of 6 months.
Toronto's owner ship was so fucking cheap back in the day. They could of spent so much before pre cap era. Nope just enough to get in the playoffs to only be kicked out.
Funny Boston Drafted Thornton let him go & and won a cup without him. Now he is Floundering in San Jose. That goes to show number 1 picks don't always pan out.
floundering? granted the bruins won the cup but thornton has mvp and art ross trophies ..over 1000pts and is a lock for the hall of fame... 99.9% of the players in the nhl would give their right arms to flounder like that
Some of these General Managers are too cheap, and they wonder WHY ticket sales are low and their team is doing getting shit kicked year after year. Money talks. If you want a winning team, simply souting and drafting smart will not cut it. You need to play the free-agent market and bring in the best players available. Talent costs money, and lots of it. Basically, you have to spend money to make money. You want to sell-out every game of the season, then bring in some talented players.
I just did a one hour doc on JP Dumont (he was Luango's teamate in Val D'Or). In his last year in Junior he tore up the league and his rights belonged to Milbury. In the play-offs of the LHQJM (Wuebec major hunior) his team won the chamionship over Vinny LeCalvalier's team. JP scored 31 goals in 18 games in the play-offs beating Mario Lemieux's alltime record. Mike's comment to him...."we don't feal you did enough" He traded him. That record still stands today and he has a string career in the NHL.
Since when does 1000 points by age 32 equal "nothing?" One of the best playmakers of the last 20 years, and he's going to the HOF with or without a Cup.
lol exactly he entered the nhl at age 18 and by the time he was 32 (14 years later) he had 1000 points. do the math and thats averaging a mediocre 70 points a year, the majority of which will have been second assists
yes Mike Milbury rub your head? why did you trade Luongo? then drafted Dipetro while you passed up Dan Heathly, and Marion Gaboric, then you traded Charra? "I DONT CARE WHAT THEY GOT" really you should of! thats why you are no longer a G.M. you destroyed the NY Islanders a dynasty! a once storied franchise!
This was such a gem, this whole series!
That was so awesome...the fastest 43 minutes ever.
I love how Milbury goes "The team's not been good.."
Funny part is that at this point they actually had a pretty good talent base. Consider the fact that they drafted:
D- Redden, Chara, Kasparaitis, McCabe
Forwards - Bertuzzi, Palffy, Green, Dumont
Goalie - Luongo, Salo
Let's assume they don't take DiPetrio in 2000 and instead draft Gaborik/Heatley, and they don't trade Chara and the 2001 1st for Yashin. Final team would have been thus:
D - Redden, Chara, Kasparitis, McCabe
F - Bertuzzi, Palffy, Green, Dumont, Gaborik/Heatley, Spezza
G - Luongo, Salo
That's amazing. Of course, Milbury, being Milbury, found ways to get rid of virtually ALL of that talent.
Also Czerkawski.
They left out how many Tie Domi jerseys they sold in Toronto. I bet those sales were massive.
Very very interesting. I wish they made this every year I could watch this for hours. Thanks a lot for the Upload
15 years later (8 seasons with the Bruins and the last 7 with the Sharks) and still in the NHL, he's a pick that worked out.
I really wish the other parts were also available, somewhere somehow, someone has a copy of those.
the kid playing snes with the stanley cup had the best childhood ever
Tie Domi......"This is all US?"....yep..... (Tie gives sigh of relief)
Is there any chance you can put the rest of the series up?
Thanks for this part though, it's awesome :D
Seeing Joe brings me back
i used to have this on vhs and watched it all the time.....this is unreal
holy shit Joe Thornton was young!? I though he was born old and bearded.
he looks so goofy with that hair
I've seen this part before I'd love to see part 2. Had this recorded on vhs back in the day and was never able to catch part 2. With Tivo these days I wouldn't have that problem now.
1:04 Phil Esposito predicting the Canadian division of 2020-21.
Thanks for the upload!
The seeds for the 05 lockout and ultimately the salary cap are planted and sprouting watching this.
It's funny how the most disappointing rookie at the training camp ends up being way better than samsonov
Samsonov still had a 75 point season,l so not all dogshit.
97' NY Islanders jerseys are sooooo fire
Many great players have had long and success careers in the NHL without winning the Stanley Cup. Thornton is one of them. The fact that he's still in the game 15 years later and commanding the salary he does ultimately means he made it.
I can’t believe this comment is 10 years old and the guy just retired
Great stuff.
where can i get rest of this masterpiece?
this is great
Ottawa had the best pick at 12 hossa and 226 rachunek....that million dollar speech worked!
Nick K Hossa, Bonk, Phillips, Spezza.........
The wheelers and dealers of the NHL. You never know how a draft will ultimately pan out. Some succeed, some don't. At the end of the day, it a gamble. You can only go based on statistics and how the prospect is currently performing at that time.
It's interesting to see how those behind the scenes make the tough decisions to choose which new guy they want.
where is the rest it is a crime to not have the rest of this up
Man, bald agent is such a humongous douche it's crazy. I would hate my life if I had to deal with someone like that more than once in my existence.
need a good documentary about the cup.
Devils and tigers
Do you have the rest of this series?
Can somebody tell me where I can find the rest of this series?
is there a part 2? and where? anyone?
I would love to know how that guy Phil first got that job to carry the cup around he's been doing it forever. I really doubt its a job that anyone that's qualified could get I'm sure he is friends or knows someone who knows someone who's a owner or something. I guess its all about who you know and who you blow.
Yeah that Thornton guy sure was a bust. Way to bury him before his career started.
just goes to show how fucked boston was back in the 90s
Whatever happened to that Thornton guy?
Mike Milbury - "We're in desperate need of a new arena." Holy crap does time ever fly, this was released in like what, 1997, 1998?
Get the Isles out of Nassau!
Finally. Took over 20 years.
Ya i debated it also but really his stats prove he was worth it. He does disappear in the playoffs and his San Jose team seems to follow his lead and underperform. They have had some good teams and havent won anything
Lmao he made two great pick though Luongo and Brewer hahaa.
where is part 2? strong men cry, strong men also cry
I thought only those who won the cup had the right to raise it above their heads.....guess that's just old school. But in all honesty, if (in my childhood's wildest dreams) I had won it, I'd give that privilege to my dad (and mom).
Milbury is the worst gm of all time in all of professional sports
+Alex Kane And coach.....and commentator......but he's the best every at crawling over the glass and beating someone with their own shoe. lol
how bad was he?
Horrible!
@@SmoothCriminal12
Well. He traded Chara and his 1st pick to Ottawa for Alexei Yashin. That pick turned out to be 1st overall and it was Jason Spezza.
He also drafted Rick DiPietro 1st overall, who turned out to be... Somewhat injury prone.
And with that goalie in the bank, he traded Luongo AND Olli Jokinen to Florida for basically nothing (Parrish and Kvasha). Both turned out to be great players for Florida. One of them still is :)
Trading Todd Bertuzzi, Bryan McCabe and the pick Vancouver drafted Jarkko Ruutu with to Vancouver for an aging Trevor Linden.
He also traded Chris Osgood to St.Louis and Osgood performed well immediately.
And traded a rising star Bryan Berard (until his injury) to Toronto for Felix Potvin.
Signed DiPietro to his batshit insane contract.
And signed Yashin to a 10 year 90 million contract (which was massive at that time).
He's made some really REALLY bad decisions over the years.
Mike GIllis takes that award. Takes a team with the least GA in the league and trades away BOTH goalies in one of the biggest farces in NHL history. Turns a presidents trophy team into nothing in the span of 6 months.
Luongo was a franchise player.....just not for the islanders
lmao mike milbury
he's played over 800 NHL games.
36:10 dig at Jason Allison? lol
big time lol
I don't understand that one at all the, Allison was consistanly productive his whole career except for being out with injury.
Milbury is bad but he came out of that draft with two players that would go on to play over 1000 games
joe thornton 1st overall? shit this is old lol
LOL look @ a teenage TJ miller (*correction: Joe Thornton [@5:11] yawwwn
Fucking Joe Thornton. :D
Thornton has done well for himself but not a guy that can carry an entire franchise anymore.
Toronto's owner ship was so fucking cheap back in the day. They could of spent so much before pre cap era. Nope just enough to get in the playoffs to only be kicked out.
Funny Boston Drafted Thornton let him go & and won a cup without him. Now he is Floundering in San Jose. That goes to show number 1 picks don't always pan out.
He's a first ballot no doubter hall of famer...
1700 games, 1100 assists, 1500 points later.
floundering? granted the bruins won the cup but thornton has mvp and art ross trophies ..over 1000pts and is a lock for the hall of fame... 99.9% of the players in the nhl would give their right arms to flounder like that
Brewer went on to a very successful career with the Oilers and Lightning. Just saying.
hes my cousin. good guy.tough
Tell him to jump ship to Colorado, they need his help..........
Joe showed them didn't he?
Can this be renamed to the day my New York Islanders were MURDERED?
10 000th view O.o
you don't think they need one?
Some of these General Managers are too cheap, and they wonder WHY ticket sales are low and their team is doing getting shit kicked year after year. Money talks. If you want a winning team, simply souting and drafting smart will not cut it. You need to play the free-agent market and bring in the best players available. Talent costs money, and lots of it. Basically, you have to spend money to make money. You want to sell-out every game of the season, then bring in some talented players.
Eric Brewer great pick mike mil bury, i dont think he ever played a NHL game?
16 yrs and 1009 games in the NHL.
I guest if you don't like your comment, you don't use it. Thanks
big joe
Thornton had and has everything....except the heart.
joe thorton was not the guy to carry a franchise.
...but he still played a very good career. Is still playing...
Milbury is the worst GM of NHL history
I just did a one hour doc on JP Dumont (he was Luango's teamate in Val D'Or). In his last year in Junior he tore up the league and his rights belonged to Milbury. In the play-offs of the LHQJM (Wuebec major hunior) his team won the chamionship over Vinny LeCalvalier's team. JP scored 31 goals in 18 games in the play-offs beating Mario Lemieux's alltime record. Mike's comment to him...."we don't feal you did enough" He traded him. That record still stands today and he has a string career in the NHL.
Harry Sinden, always pleading poverty.
this should be renamed why the islanders were shit
Joe Thornton has always looked like he's 40
Joe Thornton always puts up 40, been doing it 20 years
thornton did nothing. not a bust but he had a pointlesss career just a passer who hung around the boards
Since when does 1000 points by age 32 equal "nothing?" One of the best playmakers of the last 20 years, and he's going to the HOF with or without a Cup.
lol exactly he entered the nhl at age 18 and by the time he was 32 (14 years later) he had 1000 points. do the math and thats averaging a mediocre 70 points a year, the majority of which will have been second assists
+Joe Freeman He is almost a point a game player. Tough bastid too. Should be a HOF
yes Mike Milbury rub your head? why did you trade Luongo? then drafted Dipetro while you passed up Dan Heathly, and Marion Gaboric, then you traded Charra? "I DONT CARE WHAT THEY GOT" really you should of! thats why you are no longer a G.M. you destroyed the NY Islanders a dynasty! a once storied franchise!