8:02 If you climb up the vine he is standing on at that time, there is a small opening you can climb up into and survive the wipe mechanic. You can fit a whole fireteam.
I don't know if you'll see this, but the platform on your left, the one you were kinda facing when you spawned in helps with a map breach point. You have to turn around and look for a hole among the petals. Once you find it, run towards and jump/grapple in. Me and my brother couldn't figure out how to break through with it, but maybe you can.
I got stuck on the first step for about 5 minutes. Think the grenade placement has to be a bit further back as you aren't entirely blocking the spawn and then after I was in. Annoying but fun to do
3:23 I 'killed' the tormentor by throwing him off the ledge (for science), or he died or he's still falling. (Also, he didn't teleport back) Any case, chest didn't spawn.
@@Froggy618157725 I wonder if the tormentors health is tied to another structure somewhere outside the immediate area???? analogous to the grasp of avarice fallen shield…where we could stasis the box’s health down and that would destroy shield…
Yup. New Salvations is a bit funny. It equalizes most fallbacks. Easy stuff is harder, but hard stuff is easier. Put two charges shots next to each other, then three in a row behind them. This blocks a large area, assuming flat ground.
Not sure what you mean. At the end of the video, I was in Cataclysm-2. I know you can hit Cataclysm-2 from Macrocosm if that's what you're talking about. Would be great to go the other way though.
Cool video! Will have to mess around with this later. Curious, are you pulling out your ghost every two swings of a sword fly to allow you to eager edge?
@@Froggy618157725 Coming back to ask if you know if anyone has killed that tormentor yet? Seems like there's a small point in which he is vulnerable after you start attacking him with your super. I'm wondering, if someone were to time the end of their super just right, then switch to osteo/vorpal to infinitely poison him, if that would work.
@@cnt369 you can physically push him off the map by chain igniting him with skyburners oath & any other source of scorch that doesn’t require a direct hit but besides the satisfaction of watching him drop off the map you won’t gain anything more than that out of it.
Like before first encounter? There are some tiny holes that don't really lead anywhere, and you can go all around under the first encounter structure. But it's all wide open. Not that much to be out of.
I wanna try this out, but just am not fast enough. The crystals just start melting away too fast. And if so, I cannot hit myself in the air. Would need a titan for that
You need to block the entire default spawn area, and also not set any other spawn points outside of places you block. I stayed very close to my initial spawn so I wouldn't set any others. If you walk around at all, best to just relaunch.
It's pretty rough with one person. Took me several tries to get the timing and positioning right. Gotta charge up Salvation's Grip just long enough to get multiple crystals. If you have a buddy help, it's not too bad. With two buddies you don't even need to help.
I'd suggest having multiple people. You need to cover the entirety of the default spawn area and respawn before the crystals go away. If you don't spawn past the door, where you did spawn needed to have a crystal blocking it.
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The raid bosses watching you rip around multiple layers of reality simply for a chest:
8:02 If you climb up the vine he is standing on at that time, there is a small opening you can climb up into and survive the wipe mechanic. You can fit a whole fireteam.
I did not expect to see an A-posing Tormentor in this video, but alas my eyes have been blessed
I don't think it show up like that anymore, sadly. But I'm glad I saw when it did :D
This video can help people who never ran the raid before but want to know what its all about
I don't know if you'll see this, but the platform on your left, the one you were kinda facing when you spawned in helps with a map breach point. You have to turn around and look for a hole among the petals. Once you find it, run towards and jump/grapple in. Me and my brother couldn't figure out how to break through with it, but maybe you can.
I got stuck on the first step for about 5 minutes. Think the grenade placement has to be a bit further back as you aren't entirely blocking the spawn and then after I was in. Annoying but fun to do
I was stuck for 20ish minutes and gave up even though I used an absurd amount of Stasis and multiple orbit and relaunches.
This!!! Thanks for the heads up. Did what you said and worked a treat
5:41 you can go to the left and jump on the rock to hit load zone and just climb into cataclysm (there is a big hole)
I wish there were actual holes in the first few encounters instead of DSM, good vid as always Froggert
Let's gooo Froggy at it again
3:23 I 'killed' the tormentor by throwing him off the ledge (for science), or he died or he's still falling. (Also, he didn't teleport back)
Any case, chest didn't spawn.
Have to have beaten an encounter at least once for loot to drop
@@gengarclefairy3475 I know
It's easier to get to second chest from final encounter cp which you can't get with bots. You do need oob but still easier.
You can get from boss CP all the way to the door just after first encounter. It's a fun route. Might make a video on it at some point.
@@Froggy618157725 I wonder if the tormentors health is tied to another structure somewhere outside the immediate area???? analogous to the grasp of avarice fallen shield…where we could stasis the box’s health down and that would destroy shield…
There's no reason it would be. All of those things have been healthbar holders for multiple enemies that share a healthbar.
I know I'm coming to this video late, but is the spawn blocking still possible with reworked salvation's grip?
Yup. New Salvations is a bit funny. It equalizes most fallbacks. Easy stuff is harder, but hard stuff is easier. Put two charges shots next to each other, then three in a row behind them. This blocks a large area, assuming flat ground.
I hit a cataclysm load zone by jumping onto of roof of that blocked doors building and running to the back left of the roof area.
Not sure what you mean. At the end of the video, I was in Cataclysm-2. I know you can hit Cataclysm-2 from Macrocosm if that's what you're talking about. Would be great to go the other way though.
Cool video! Will have to mess around with this later. Curious, are you pulling out your ghost every two swings of a sword fly to allow you to eager edge?
Yeah, you can manage an eager every other swing if you're going for distance. More efficient that way :)
@@Froggy618157725 Coming back to ask if you know if anyone has killed that tormentor yet? Seems like there's a small point in which he is vulnerable after you start attacking him with your super. I'm wondering, if someone were to time the end of their super just right, then switch to osteo/vorpal to infinitely poison him, if that would work.
@@cnt369 you can physically push him off the map by chain igniting him with skyburners oath & any other source of scorch that doesn’t require a direct hit but besides the satisfaction of watching him drop off the map you won’t gain anything more than that out of it.
May I ask how old you are 😅ive always wondered when hearing your voice and cant decide on what i would guess
22 or 40
Something between those XD
Do ignitions affect the tormentor at all?
That might be a way to kill him without doing 13 damage per hit.
Not sure. Worth a try though. I sorta suspect we'd need a precision damage source that can hit through the immune to get more than 13 damage.
have we tried telesto on the immune tormenter? might be worth a shot given its history
I haven't tried that yet. Lemme know if it does more than 13...
using titan super in combination with tractor did a lot of damage..one super almost a third of his life
@@marianpriefer7562 after the 3rd of health you beig doing 13 damage
Froggy is there any way or method you know of to go oob in encounter 0? For exploration not for any chests
Like before first encounter? There are some tiny holes that don't really lead anywhere, and you can go all around under the first encounter structure. But it's all wide open. Not that much to be out of.
Does the tormentor spawn normally if you don’t go to the 2nd encounter rally flag?
It spawns normally if you clear first encounter.
I wanna try this out, but just am not fast enough. The crystals just start melting away too fast. And if so, I cannot hit myself in the air. Would need a titan for that
It is MUCH easier with a second or even third person. I didn't even bother trying solo until we found that the area to cover was fairly small.
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Now I have to play a titan, huh? Dx I figured it'd be easier on a strand hunter. O.o
You can do this on any character. Just gotta use stasis for the fallback point.
I cant understand how you could spawn after 1 encounter? I respawn near initial place of spawn
You need to block the entire default spawn area, and also not set any other spawn points outside of places you block. I stayed very close to my initial spawn so I wouldn't set any others. If you walk around at all, best to just relaunch.
How likely is it that they fix the starting fallback point? or any other of these ones.
They have never altered a fallback point.
is there another way to go to 2 encounter without fall back
From boss, yes. Not from start, at least not without doing the encounter;)
Good morning
either i'm bad or doing somethign really wrong i jsut cant seems to even be able to do the first step
It's pretty rough with one person. Took me several tries to get the timing and positioning right. Gotta charge up Salvation's Grip just long enough to get multiple crystals. If you have a buddy help, it's not too bad. With two buddies you don't even need to help.
@@Froggy618157725 I finaly did it! weirdly enough i just had to be much much faster at killing myself, thanks alot BTW!
oh you meant the SECOND chest
And potentially the first if you've got an hour or so to kill ;)
Was anyone able to find a way into 3rd yet?
Not that I know of
Has anyone found a way into 3rd yet?
Nope. I'm unsure if we'll find one either :(
Many of our usual tricks are hard or impossible to pull off due to the spawning mechanics in Cataclysm 2
First step does not work
I'd suggest having multiple people. You need to cover the entirety of the default spawn area and respawn before the crystals go away. If you don't spawn past the door, where you did spawn needed to have a crystal blocking it.
They patched the tposing tormentor :(
Yup. Sad times