I don't need most of those extra items; the base items are good enough for me. So yes, those extra items are free, which as the sales go up, the costs goes down. If I'm off, it doesn't matter; the base items are what I really want. I'll give you that the listings are unorthodox and can be confusing.
As an admittedly somewhat-jaded SHMA fan, I can easily say that this, even WITH possible stretch goals and the shipping being almost 50% of the cost, with the accessories we ARE guaranteed getting for the cost of $58 is criminally well-priced.
He's got them as "Campaign Goals" with no clear Goals/milestones or specifics. Before the KS he was saying they would be stretch goals, but they're not. It's just kinda lame to say randomly. "Hey, you guys unlocked this cool spiked arm piece!" But really, we're getting that anyway and its all listed already. Just be excited and show the production samples off, the KS is a huge success. He'll make a ton of profit, maybe finally get on the Spawn movie with it.
@@Kalazius 🚨 Silly Goose Alarm 🤣 no doubt, I just wish he presented it differently than as unlocks, just highlight everything through the run of the campaign.
We just hit #6 giveaway this evening, so still a remote possibility we get all accessories. The last Spawn Kickstarter he just gave us everything without any goals. I'm hoping for the same with Med Spawn
I think that's kinda what's going on here, and I feel if he doesn't include everything in the end it's kinda not a great look for him. I called out the sheath and arbitrary tiers but there's some hyper critical of this even not being on store shelves. But fingers crossed he gives it all!
There is no chance all of this stuff isn't added, he's just playing it out so the hype lasts more than a day. The campaign is a month long, settle down everyone.
Oh there's no doubt we were already getting everything, it's presenting it like we're not unless a made up goal happens. And I don't mean tier unlocks I mean randomly grabbing parts from the figure it already is shown to come with and say, "You unlocked this for $1 million dollars, hope you unlock everything else!" It's kinda bs. Figure looks great, the accessories look great, execution lame.
If he is using it as a marketing ploy he isn't doing it very well, give the awesome stuff sooner so people go "hell yeah" and back the project instead of going "a f#'*,ng sheath!? Really!?" Side note i want a viking spawn of this quality (had one as a kid replaced it later) and a curse of spawn mega fig kickstarter with awesome paint detail and some effect accessories
I love Spawn!! And I support spawn since the beginning. But I don’t like the design of this medieval spawn. I actually think Medieval Spawn 3 is even better
@@billybeigecustoms based on how fast the success of his kickstarters battle horse is definitely coming I just hope Todd keeps his word of holding this Kickstarter for 30days I need time to come up cash lol
@@Rich575 same here. Someone said something really awesome that if Todd confirmed it'd make this kickstarter boom like yesterday. The profits could be funding the Spawn Movie, in part. That'd flip feelings instantly if he announced that.
I have never been part of a kickstarter project and all of this is weird and seems kind of mismanaged but there are a few comments that seem to be getting traction that assume the worst of Mcfarlane Some people assume the prototypes in the pictures and videos were made from molds, when it’s possible that they could have been 3d printed They assume that because the foam is already cut for these accessories they will, in the end, be included, when in fact the factory could just leave the cut plug in it’s place I’m about to go get the Blue Autographed version and hope for the best.
So I did leave a comment on the page and this is what Todd said: Sometimes I will just pick a random number and give something away. There aren't any hard and fast rules to all of this except for me to try and give you as much value as I possibly can.
Was one of the first to get the premium 3 pack... When he posted the video for the BONUS accessories. I was like WTF is this bs. Glad to see im not the only one who thought this was kind of a chain yank.
I like and have backed it for now but he should have included a wired soft goods cape but maybe that will be a mystery upgrade but it will probably be another set of hands or maybe the hamburger head all before any of the big cool weapons. So what happens if everyone starts to get pissed with him dragging it out because it's all completed and paid for and in production and then large numbers of people start to cancel their pledge, Don't F with your fans Todd it's not a good idea, I understand he wants to make money but there's profitable and then just plain greedy and this is quickly turning in that direction.
@russian61 it would be different if these were really bonuses that weren't originally getting made, and production wasn't already happening. It feels rushed. With the first campaign it :seemed" like the unlocks were genuinely ideas they wanted to do and cost was an issue without kickstarter goals unlocking. But again, here it seems like a show.
Billy, I am a Mcfarlane comics fan. I also have collected Todd Toys and the Current McFarlane toys lines whether DC multiverse or Spawn. I did back the original Spawn Kickstarter from some years ago. I am on the fence about backing this Medieval Spawn Kickstarter. I get that companies need to make a profit. The math isn't mathing🤨. The comics are currently the best bang for your buck. Card stock covers for $2.99, fresh writers(Todd does co-write) and classic artists Like Greg Capullo, Carlo Barberi, along with new up and comers. I hear you on value being suspected for this campaign. Todd has been a showman(mach schau) for a while like it or not. People like to be entertained but not at this co$t. I will watch how the campaign progresses. I might need my reality shot for fomo. Rant'n ain't easy😉✌️
@stevewegling8070 and honestly after sitting and stewing on this, and massive profit this figure is and will make. After a nice chunk of profit in his pocket, I think he will use the remaining profits to better his business. Adding to the factory, new licensing outside DC, who knows but it makes more sense than making a huge retirement nestegg. I don't see him ever retiring like that.
i think todd messed up because eveything thats been said in the campaign has almost been completely different from what hes said in the vids, but man if a small indie company like titanic creations can create a kaiju figure for $100 and come with over 20 accesories which only costed them $100,000 all together to pump out, their is something extremely fishy going on, like if i was a newcomer id honestly be a little sketched out by the campaign edit: so i was looking threw todds comments on the kickstarter and someone asked him about the goal numbers and he said their a rough estimate and he mainly picks random numbers lol, he essentially admited he can do it just likes to tease the fans, so i wouldnt be surprised if he flips the table like you said in your vid, hes also seeing the complaints about the cloth cape, so maybe hes going to try and add it, idk just thought it was interesting
@Monkinator67 it'd be great if he did add something that was a real unlock or stretch goal. And yeah, watching so many indie toy makers like Spero, Ramen, Fourhorsemen, and Titanic Creations (I'm ready for Pulgasari!!) Create high-quality figures and be transparent about costs, steps in production, and real goals that need crowd funding to make happen. The Toddfather doesn't need Kickstarter lol.
I was under the impression if we made the $100,000 goal we'd automatically get it because that's what he's been saying now. All the sudden it has to go up to $2 million for us to get all that? That math don't math
Personally I prefer the Blue one because that’s what I remember that figure being.. but.. I want the closed mouth hamburger head which is black only. The way this is going all figures will have all heads and accessories tho, lol. Those will be the “unlocks”
@@OverBenthousand yea that’s definitely his intention, there’s no reason to make these heads exclusive when we are paying so much already especially with that shipping
@darylshelly6377 it really is, I know it's tracking to be $250,000 for each unlock but he could flip a table over tomorrow and say it's all unlocked! It feels very random.
@darylshelly6377 and I don't see him not including everything.. if it does more than the $3.5 million-ish the first spawn did. But don't bs us unlocks. I know it's semantics but just let everyone back it and know they're getting everything. It's still incentive.
Yeah. . .McFarlane is currently one of the scungiest companies out there at the moment. just look how they repaint characters to make new characters and then ultra short pack them to make things artificially rare.
@lordtao5617 and I completely get doing repaints for a company to get their money's worth out of tooling but they're awful with how they do it. Don't even get me started on the digital figures...
@@billybeigecustomsthere's a market for digital figures, as a lot of asian collectors dont have physical space to put their figures (they just live in inhuman tiny places).
I think you all need to to learn how to do math. At that price point 250K is only 4,000 backers. ButHaslab rattler one and 9k just to start. At the moment the haslab is over 4 million in profit. Yet no one is batting an eye. I think people rather bitched and understand the basics of toy making and maybe get a clue when they’re actually getting a good deal.
@normanbeaulieu4204 I don't think your numbers for Haslab are... right. For the Rattler it was 9k backers ar $325 so $3 Million to make the Rattler. Supposedly. But it does have massive tooling and way more expensive that a 7 inch figure will ever be. $58 for medieval spawn is a good deal but pretending the accessories that are already tooled, in production, and have space in the packaging are real unlocks is bs.
@@billybeigecustoms haslab has a base of 9,000 backers to make the thing. At $350 a pop that means that have already made 3,150,000 already before anything. The tiers are already baked into the base in there calculations. It will take them maybe 1.5 million to make the whole thing. To unlock tier 2 it’s 14,000. That means it takes 5,000 more backers for just tier 2. At 350 that’s another 1.7 million. So people complaining that McFarlane is giving us tiers at 250,000 is just laughable
I don't need most of those extra items; the base items are good enough for me. So yes, those extra items are free, which as the sales go up, the costs goes down. If I'm off, it doesn't matter; the base items are what I really want. I'll give you that the listings are unorthodox and can be confusing.
As an admittedly somewhat-jaded SHMA fan, I can easily say that this, even WITH possible stretch goals and the shipping being almost 50% of the cost, with the accessories we ARE guaranteed getting for the cost of $58 is criminally well-priced.
I’m still pissed about the first one, after we backed it he took out articulation points. Total BS.
It's says right on the KS that there are no stretch goals. The Freebies will be announced as the Campain goes on. It says so right in the KS...
He's got them as "Campaign Goals" with no clear Goals/milestones or specifics. Before the KS he was saying they would be stretch goals, but they're not. It's just kinda lame to say randomly. "Hey, you guys unlocked this cool spiked arm piece!" But really, we're getting that anyway and its all listed already. Just be excited and show the production samples off, the KS is a huge success. He'll make a ton of profit, maybe finally get on the Spawn movie with it.
lol you silly goose, We're still getting everything. He's just hyping up the project. Don't over think it.
@@Kalazius 🚨 Silly Goose Alarm 🤣 no doubt, I just wish he presented it differently than as unlocks, just highlight everything through the run of the campaign.
I don't understand the other thing - why do we have this many helmets with the blue one if it doesn't include the closed mouth head
Damn dude. Calm down
We just hit #6 giveaway this evening, so still a remote possibility we get all accessories. The last Spawn Kickstarter he just gave us everything without any goals. I'm hoping for the same with Med Spawn
I think that's kinda what's going on here, and I feel if he doesn't include everything in the end it's kinda not a great look for him. I called out the sheath and arbitrary tiers but there's some hyper critical of this even not being on store shelves. But fingers crossed he gives it all!
There is no chance all of this stuff isn't added, he's just playing it out so the hype lasts more than a day. The campaign is a month long, settle down everyone.
Oh there's no doubt we were already getting everything, it's presenting it like we're not unless a made up goal happens. And I don't mean tier unlocks I mean randomly grabbing parts from the figure it already is shown to come with and say, "You unlocked this for $1 million dollars, hope you unlock everything else!" It's kinda bs. Figure looks great, the accessories look great, execution lame.
Yea that's what I'm hoping. That were already going to get everything but he needs a way to still push the product.
Exactly
I hope that is correct, at the he just goes thank you i decided to throw everything in for the support
If he is using it as a marketing ploy he isn't doing it very well, give the awesome stuff sooner so people go "hell yeah" and back the project instead of going "a f#'*,ng sheath!? Really!?" Side note i want a viking spawn of this quality (had one as a kid replaced it later) and a curse of spawn mega fig kickstarter with awesome paint detail and some effect accessories
I love Spawn!! And I support spawn since the beginning. But I don’t like the design of this medieval spawn. I actually think Medieval Spawn 3 is even better
Tbh he could’ve scrap majority of those weapons & just include the battle horse in tier list but I have a feeling that’s going be another Kickstarter
The battle horse would be insane. If that, by some chance, happened now. I'd commend him.
@@billybeigecustoms based on how fast the success of his kickstarters battle horse is definitely coming I just hope Todd keeps his word of holding this Kickstarter for 30days I need time to come up cash lol
@@Rich575 same here. Someone said something really awesome that if Todd confirmed it'd make this kickstarter boom like yesterday. The profits could be funding the Spawn Movie, in part. That'd flip feelings instantly if he announced that.
I have never been part of a kickstarter project and all of this is weird and seems kind of mismanaged but there are a few comments that seem to be getting traction that assume the worst of Mcfarlane
Some people assume the prototypes in the pictures and videos were made from molds, when it’s possible that they could have been 3d printed
They assume that because the foam is already cut for these accessories they will, in the end, be included, when in fact the factory could just leave the cut plug in it’s place
I’m about to go get the Blue Autographed version and hope for the best.
So I did leave a comment on the page and this is what Todd said:
Sometimes I will just pick a random number and give something away. There aren't any hard and fast rules to all of this except for me to try and give you as much value as I possibly can.
Question to those who pledged when you backed tge campaign did you hsve to pay straight away or do you pay after the campaign is over thx
I pledged the standard 3 pack. No you won’t get charged until after it’s over.
@SoloClassics thx mate, I decided to pledge got the blue varient
Betting it's gonna be made out of flimsy plastic lmao just like all of accessories MacFarlane made
i hope not, i mean all the spawns i have look stupid displayed with their bend weapons i dont show them off.
THE SWORD DIDN’T EVEN GO IN THE FCKN SHEATH!
Was one of the first to get the premium 3 pack... When he posted the video for the BONUS accessories. I was like WTF is this bs. Glad to see im not the only one who thought this was kind of a chain yank.
Update, for the Next 250k milestone. He just announced the Chain replacement AND One of the gauntlet swaps....
@@Themagicdingo oh well there we go, now it’s worth more than a fckn million
I like and have backed it for now but he should have included a wired soft goods cape but maybe that will be a mystery upgrade but it will probably be another set of hands or maybe the hamburger head all before any of the big cool weapons. So what happens if everyone starts to get pissed with him dragging it out because it's all completed and paid for and in production and then large numbers of people start to cancel their pledge, Don't F with your fans Todd it's not a good idea, I understand he wants to make money but there's profitable and then just plain greedy and this is quickly turning in that direction.
@russian61 it would be different if these were really bonuses that weren't originally getting made, and production wasn't already happening. It feels rushed. With the first campaign it :seemed" like the unlocks were genuinely ideas they wanted to do and cost was an issue without kickstarter goals unlocking. But again, here it seems like a show.
Billy, I am a Mcfarlane comics fan. I also have collected Todd Toys and the Current McFarlane toys lines whether DC multiverse or Spawn. I did back the original Spawn Kickstarter from some years ago. I am on the fence about backing this Medieval Spawn Kickstarter. I get that companies need to make a profit. The math isn't mathing🤨. The comics are currently the best bang for your buck. Card stock covers for $2.99, fresh writers(Todd does co-write) and classic artists Like Greg Capullo, Carlo Barberi, along with new up and comers. I hear you on value being suspected for this campaign. Todd has been a showman(mach schau) for a while like it or not. People like to be entertained but not at this co$t. I will watch how the campaign progresses. I might need my reality shot for fomo. Rant'n ain't easy😉✌️
@stevewegling8070 and honestly after sitting and stewing on this, and massive profit this figure is and will make. After a nice chunk of profit in his pocket, I think he will use the remaining profits to better his business. Adding to the factory, new licensing outside DC, who knows but it makes more sense than making a huge retirement nestegg. I don't see him ever retiring like that.
i think todd messed up because eveything thats been said in the campaign has almost been completely different from what hes said in the vids, but man if a small indie company like titanic creations can create a kaiju figure for $100 and come with over 20 accesories which only costed them $100,000 all together to pump out, their is something extremely fishy going on, like if i was a newcomer id honestly be a little sketched out by the campaign
edit: so i was looking threw todds comments on the kickstarter and someone asked him about the goal numbers and he said their a rough estimate and he mainly picks random numbers lol, he essentially admited he can do it just likes to tease the fans, so i wouldnt be surprised if he flips the table like you said in your vid, hes also seeing the complaints about the cloth cape, so maybe hes going to try and add it, idk just thought it was interesting
@Monkinator67 it'd be great if he did add something that was a real unlock or stretch goal. And yeah, watching so many indie toy makers like Spero, Ramen, Fourhorsemen, and Titanic Creations (I'm ready for Pulgasari!!) Create high-quality figures and be transparent about costs, steps in production, and real goals that need crowd funding to make happen. The Toddfather doesn't need Kickstarter lol.
@@billybeigecustoms McClintock has taught me so much in terms of actually producing an item it’s crazy
I was under the impression if we made the $100,000 goal we'd automatically get it because that's what he's been saying now. All the sudden it has to go up to $2 million for us to get all that? That math don't math
@@aaronperez5201 it's Toddy Wonka and the Toy Factory.
He’s using Steiner math
@@Alex-ot4tm he's a genetic freak, he's not normal!!?? 🤣
@@billybeigecustomshahaha! Todd is genetically greedy
I’m Todd Mcfarlane and for $250,000 I’ll give you 2, you can count em 2 hands.
@@Christo-pv7eb and you're gonna need em for all the weapons you MIGHT unlock 🤣
@@billybeigecustoms We’ll talk about that after we hit $2million. 😃👊🏼
@@Christo-pv7eb 🤣 $1,276,000 and counting
it sucks i gotta back the blue version to get the cool valk helmet, bc overall i like the black version better
Personally I prefer the Blue one because that’s what I remember that figure being.. but.. I want the closed mouth hamburger head which is black only. The way this is going all figures will have all heads and accessories tho, lol. Those will be the “unlocks”
Who knows he may randomly say in a week "all the figures get all the heads!" it's on his whim 😐 we're just witnessing it.
@@OverBenthousand yea that’s definitely his intention, there’s no reason to make these heads exclusive when we are paying so much already especially with that shipping
@@billybeigecustoms let’s hope that happens and he adds actual bonuses lol
Ya his kickstarter is all over the place compared to what he said on his fb post
@darylshelly6377 it really is, I know it's tracking to be $250,000 for each unlock but he could flip a table over tomorrow and say it's all unlocked! It feels very random.
@billybeigecustoms I noticed the box thing too. If it's already being made then it's already being made lol
@darylshelly6377 and I don't see him not including everything.. if it does more than the $3.5 million-ish the first spawn did. But don't bs us unlocks. I know it's semantics but just let everyone back it and know they're getting everything. It's still incentive.
@@billybeigecustoms lol I'm still going to back it 🤪 I just haven't talked myself into it yet 😅
I thought the exact same thing to be honest
If we dont get all that extra shit def gonna be pissed
HE WON’T EVEN GIVE US FCKN FISTS
Yeah. . .McFarlane is currently one of the scungiest companies out there at the moment. just look how they repaint characters to make new characters and then ultra short pack them to make things artificially rare.
@lordtao5617 and I completely get doing repaints for a company to get their money's worth out of tooling but they're awful with how they do it. Don't even get me started on the digital figures...
@@billybeigecustomsthere's a market for digital figures, as a lot of asian collectors dont have physical space to put their figures (they just live in inhuman tiny places).
@nosoyyo6961 fair, I personally didn't think of that and I feel the sympathy for lack of space.
@@billybeigecustoms yeah... It's weird... I didn't even believe it till I saw it... So digital stuff seems to be something they actually collect... 😱😓
Be mindful, you don't pay this extra 250000. For the quality and price it's it's an amazing toy on its own. You are way too emotional, chill.
😅🤣😂😅🤣😂
I don’t know why we’re funding this, McFarlane is the best at making figures that are very mid.
I mean ffs Hasbro does better.
Greed is just it.
Can you tell if spawn has that awful toe hinge?
@@Laura-es7pw 200% toe hinge, can see it on the artist proof 😬
I think you all need to to learn how to do math. At that price point 250K is only 4,000 backers. ButHaslab rattler one and 9k just to start. At the moment the haslab is over 4 million in profit. Yet no one is batting an eye. I think people rather bitched and understand the basics of toy making and maybe get a clue when they’re actually getting a good deal.
@normanbeaulieu4204 I don't think your numbers for Haslab are... right. For the Rattler it was 9k backers ar $325 so $3 Million to make the Rattler. Supposedly. But it does have massive tooling and way more expensive that a 7 inch figure will ever be. $58 for medieval spawn is a good deal but pretending the accessories that are already tooled, in production, and have space in the packaging are real unlocks is bs.
@@billybeigecustoms haslab has a base of 9,000 backers to make the thing. At $350 a pop that means that have already made 3,150,000 already before anything. The tiers are already baked into the base in there calculations. It will take them maybe 1.5 million to make the whole thing. To unlock tier 2 it’s 14,000. That means it takes 5,000 more backers for just tier 2. At 350 that’s another 1.7 million. So people complaining that McFarlane is giving us tiers at 250,000 is just laughable