Great repair job Jake. Nice to see Wayne make a appearance on your channel. Wayne dont be so camera shy now!🌟⭐That repair should give your customer a few more years of service for sure. Looks very good.👍🇺🇸🇨🇦Roger
Well, I started a similar project on a JD 48" deck but was having problems blowing through the metal. Thanks for the help and advice. I will be trying again this spring. I had gotten another deck from a mower with a blown engine and so I haven't needed it, but I wanted to fix it up nevertheless.
You could always use pieces from one bad deck to make 1 good one if they're not rotted in the same spot. This one over all wasn't as bad as some that I've seen, but it was worse than I originally thought once I started the job. The top spots had to be taken care of. Thanks for watching!
Nice to have the tools eh buddy! Some very nice vertical welds you did there, not bad for being out of the welding business for 14 years buddy i think your customer will be extremely happy with not only the finished product but the invoice. It should be good for many years if they only cut grass when it is dry and maybe in two years you get it back to review and do a little more work on some of the thin areas. See yall next week.
Mower decks are the worst. Blowing thru because the corrosion is all over the place. I am working on a scag deck. Totally abused. Cut the whole front nose off. Cnc plasma cut a new nose and used slices in the program to make the bends. Still was a pain and took a lot of time. Good job for what this junk is.
Good Job I hope that customer appreciates your effort most shops would have told him ( " NO it's time for a new one"! ) by the way before I got my MVP210 I used oxy/acc and brazing rod for that stuff . I can see the way you baby that thin stuff you would be good at brazing. Happy Easter my neighbor just 30 miles North of me.
@@waynestefinashen239 Yes Sir ! Dunkirk is Correct sorry for the slow response . When I was a kid I used to go to Dragway Park near you fellas GOOD Times! Great People ! I fell in love with Molsen Export Ale Near Beer in NY ya know Good day.
@@tempusveritas8901 Fished a number of walleye tournaments in Dunkirk but cant remember name of hotel we stayed at but the marina was right there. Got pretty drunk on American beers they go down like water.
Well well well, Mr Wayne finally made his cameo appearance, miracles never cease. Jake you're gonna have to get him some orthopedic shop boots, it just doesn't look right plasma cutting in loafers. 🤣👍 Nice job on the deck Jake, it turned out really well. 👍
It's either loafers, winter snow boots or flip flops lol and yes it turned out good enough for what it needs to do! Doesn't have to look fancy, just be strong enough to keep the rocks from flying. Thanks for watching!
Lol John those are the Canadian loafer safety shoes without the metatarsal but would be better if i bought the black ones in the event there are some spark burns. Just looked at them and perfecto no burns. Just a short appearance John but there i is brother. May be able to have a speaking part in a future video, who knows only the Jakester knows!
@@waynestefinashen239 LoL about the shoes, sorry I got tickled when I saw you wearing them while cutting. I'm glad they werent damaged brother. I'll put in the good word for you with Jake, maybe a lens wiper or tool getter spot. Hey it was cool seeing you, now we can put half a face with your posts. 👍👍
@@EliminatorPerformance Anytime Jake, I wouldn't have missed this one for the world. The welding job looked plenty strong enough and hey it's really considerate of you to employ the elderly like that bud. 🙂😲
A great piece to add to your toolbox would be a 1/8 or 1/4" thick plate of copper. You can clamp it to the back side of the patch and it helps dissipate heat, and none of your welding will stick to it.
Yeah but way better than when we got it and the customer was extremely happy even with the big invoice but should get another 2 or 3 years before we need to do more weld repairs. Good used decks are hard to find and right now a complete deck new is likely over $2k
You're the expert but in that area 3:33 where you hand is I think I would of taken some paper & made a pattern for that complete sunken area completely across the deck then welded it in, & done the same for the front
That would have been a better longer lasting repair but the customer requested repairs in areas that had holes only and would be giving us the rider and deck back in two or three years for a full service and more deck repair welding if needed.
@@norge696 You also need to add in material costs like MIG wire, welding gas, 1/8" steel plate, grinding wheels, primer and orange paint, Krown undercoating, 3 blade sharpen and balance, time for wire wheel cleaning under the deck. All of this and it adds up to a few hundred and a few more but in the long run the customer is extremely happy that he has a deck that will keep him cutting for years to come.
so how many hrs did u have into that whole deal ...what did u charge ? that was alot a cuttin n fabbing up patches ..!! turned out well ...shld left the patches grey so the guy cld see what he had to pay to get fixed ...cause he dont clean the deck ...LOL we see it all the time in our shop ..ppl just dnt get it LOL good video!!!
Well with the filming it was probably 12hrs because I did about 3 days working for 4hrs each but when I'm doing videos that use the tripod and multiple camera angles, plus music it takes me significantly longer because I don't have a cameraman, it's me setting everything up, pressing record and then getting to work, then repositioning everything. This job by itself was charged at 4hrs plus materials. Cost the customer about $400 which extends the life of the mower a few more years at least.
That is awesome! What type of welding were you doing in your previous life? This is very similar to welding patches in an old car body. No way you can run a continuous bead. It has to be stitch welded. Have you found any orange paint that is a close match for Ariens orange? I wondered if a paint store could tint a white base of Tremclad to match? I know you can buy actual Ariens paint, but it is very, very expensive. It is similar to this orange on your deck. If not, i guess i could use what you used here.
I used to do SMAW and also Mig welding structures that were used as pump houses in the oil and gas industry. Then went on to weld at a Drop Forge plant doing maintenance and also fabrication for basically anything they could think of, I could build it. Also, BeautiTone sells an Alkyd Kubota orange paint at Home Hardware here in Canada, but they were out of stock so we got this. And yes, similar to body work on a car, always tacking, low amps and trying to move around the metal to keep prevent hot spots. Thanks for watching!
I'm nosey, did you charge by the HR for that job?? I think creating a patter for a larger longer area, then cut that in metal, then weld would of not been so time consuming and a stiffer outcome
Customer actually got charged roughly 1/3 of the actual hours spent on welding. #1 a great loyal customer #2 many referral customers from this customer #3 actually was my sons technical teacher in high school. At Eliminator Performance we charge by the hour but also give our regular customers and sometime initial customers a discount on both labour and parts that is why the business has grown to what it is today from 10 years ago. Offering 1 to 2 day returns also helps!
Have you priced a new mower and deck lately? Why not fix older equipment that was built better than the recent Chinesium crap. I keep my older equipment running because its built much better and had more than a 5 year planned usable life. But, if you want more debt and landfill crap go ahead and buy a new one :)
Yes it's worth it when you can get a few more years out of them, maybe do another repair in a few years. We'll have to wait and see how bad it gets. That's why preventative maintenance is always best. Thanks for watching!
To replace this liquid cooled riding tractor would be a great expense and this repair with possibly a few more every 2nd or 3rd year keeps this fine piece of equipment running for many more years to come. If the owner only cuts when the grass is dry they may not ever need another repair job on this deck, cut when dry and keep the top clean of debris and stored out of the weather.
@@beanolatte2682 Jake spent a lot of time welding this deck but because this is a regular customer only charged out a 3 hour labour rate. Likely without counting the time of moving the camera and video time the likely spent a full 8 hours which included cleaning, cutting the deck and plate steel, grinding to fit and welding plus the final prime and paint.
They should make these mower decks out of aluminum, so that it would NEVER rust. I'm sure that they won't because they want you to continue to buy new mowers.🤔🤔🤔🤔
Right on Patrick but the cost of an aluminium deck would have drastically increased the original selling price of this riding tractor and deck. Cutting grass in dry weather conditions only and this deck would still look like new, or at least cleaning the underside after cutting wet grass.
Awesome skill and tools to extend the life of old, neglected, and expensive to replace equipment. Nice work.
Thanks for watching!
NNNO way the old man hits the main stage.. good to see him busy in the shop.. cracking job Jake.. take her easy
Thanks Mick!
Wayne does exist! He must have gotten the safety shoes from Mick!
Yes those are EP approved safety loafers lol thanks for watching!
Mine are loafers Ken not flip flops not too sure what they call them in the UK
Great repair job Jake. Nice to see Wayne make a appearance on your channel. Wayne dont be so camera shy now!🌟⭐That repair should give your customer a few more years of service for sure. Looks very good.👍🇺🇸🇨🇦Roger
Thanks for watching Roger!
The old man is not camera shy Roger the son just needs to get the old man into more of his videos i am out there with him every day.
1:47 cameo. Well done on the deck Jake. Will tune in next week.
Thanks for watching Jimmy!
I hear you missed me on your first viewing of the video eh? Just comment to Jake that he needs longer video footage of the old man the next time!
Wayne it was nice to see you finally keep up the good work mate
Thanks for watching Henry!
Thanks Hank out there everyday putting in double shifts at 73 mate.
Man you do it all, Ive had several decks that needed this revitalization! Great skills
Thanks for the kind words Big Son!
Well, I started a similar project on a JD 48" deck but was having problems blowing through the metal. Thanks for the help and advice. I will be trying again this spring. I had gotten another deck from a mower with a blown engine and so I haven't needed it, but I wanted to fix it up nevertheless.
You could always use pieces from one bad deck to make 1 good one if they're not rotted in the same spot. This one over all wasn't as bad as some that I've seen, but it was worse than I originally thought once I started the job. The top spots had to be taken care of. Thanks for watching!
Nice to have the tools eh buddy! Some very nice vertical welds you did there, not bad for being out of the welding business for 14 years buddy i think your customer will be extremely happy with not only the finished product but the invoice. It should be good for many years if they only cut grass when it is dry and maybe in two years you get it back to review and do a little more work on some of the thin areas. See yall next week.
Yes it will be interesting to see how it holds up over the years, thanks for watching!
You should probably watch Jody at Weldmonger. And the guy who replaces body rot on old cars. But I do love your tenacity! Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the recommendation, and thanks for watching!
you should check out the sink in method of welding in patches , it would cut your time in half , you cut out the rust and weld in patch at same time
Looks great now. Well done Sir
Mower decks are the worst. Blowing thru because the corrosion is all over the place. I am working on a scag deck. Totally abused. Cut the whole front nose off. Cnc plasma cut a new nose and used slices in the program to make the bends. Still was a pain and took a lot of time. Good job for what this junk is.
Yea I just wanted to patch this thing up and get them some extra years out of it. Eventually there won't be enough metal left to weld to lol
Good Job I hope that customer appreciates your effort most shops would have told him ( " NO it's time for a new one"! ) by the way before I got my MVP210 I used oxy/acc and brazing rod for that stuff . I can see the way you baby that thin stuff you would be good at brazing. Happy Easter my neighbor just 30 miles North of me.
Happy Easter Tempus, and yes have to turn it down and go slow, also tack other sides to keep the heat off one section. Thanks for watching!
If we are 30 miles North you must be in the USA on the other side of Lake Erie guessing Dunkirk?
@@waynestefinashen239 Yes Sir ! Dunkirk is Correct sorry for the slow response . When I was a kid I used to go to Dragway Park near you fellas GOOD Times! Great People ! I fell in love with Molsen Export Ale Near Beer in NY ya know Good day.
@@tempusveritas8901 Fished a number of walleye tournaments in Dunkirk but cant remember name of hotel we stayed at but the marina was right there. Got pretty drunk on American beers they go down like water.
@@waynestefinashen239 That Hotel is on a 3'rd name it's now the Clarion. Was 4 points and I can't Rember I am getting old.
Nice work Jake... Wayne that's one he'll of a job bud.
Thanks for watching!
Chub we need another inspirational receipe feeling hungry mate.
@@waynestefinashen239 one on the way for the end of the week.
@@ChubbyButcher Whata we cooking this week or is it a secret?
@@waynestefinashen239 you will have to tune in..
Great as usual
Thanks for watching!
Lookin good Dad!
He finally made an appearance, thanks for watching!
Thanks Mike
Well done sir !
Well well well, Mr Wayne finally made his cameo appearance, miracles never cease. Jake you're gonna have to get him some
orthopedic shop boots, it just doesn't look right plasma cutting in loafers. 🤣👍
Nice job on the deck Jake, it turned out really well. 👍
It's either loafers, winter snow boots or flip flops lol and yes it turned out good enough for what it needs to do! Doesn't have to look fancy, just be strong enough to keep the rocks from flying. Thanks for watching!
Lol John those are the Canadian loafer safety shoes without the metatarsal but would be better if i bought the black ones in the event there are some spark burns. Just looked at them and perfecto no burns. Just a short appearance John but there i is brother. May be able to have a speaking part in a future video, who knows only the Jakester knows!
@@waynestefinashen239 LoL about the shoes, sorry I got tickled when I saw you wearing them while cutting. I'm glad they werent damaged brother.
I'll put in the good word for you with Jake, maybe a lens wiper or tool getter spot. Hey it was cool seeing you, now we can put half a face with your posts. 👍👍
John I too work in loafers when I’m welding
@@EliminatorPerformance Anytime Jake, I wouldn't have missed this one for the world. The welding job looked plenty strong enough and hey it's really considerate
of you to employ the elderly like that bud. 🙂😲
I can tell you like doing this type of repair work and you’ll doing a great job with a terrible deck , seems owner did not want to take care of it 😢
Hey just repaint the whole deck for a couple of cans more 😊
A great piece to add to your toolbox would be a 1/8 or 1/4" thick plate of copper. You can clamp it to the back side of the patch and it helps dissipate heat, and none of your welding will stick to it.
I use a copper puck, but yes a plate would be a great idea!
She may not look pretty, but she does the job!
Yeah but way better than when we got it and the customer was extremely happy even with the big invoice but should get another 2 or 3 years before we need to do more weld repairs. Good used decks are hard to find and right now a complete deck new is likely over $2k
You're the expert but in that area 3:33 where you hand is I think I would of taken some paper & made a pattern for that complete sunken area completely across the deck then welded it in, & done the same for the front
That would have been a better longer lasting repair but the customer requested repairs in areas that had holes only and would be giving us the rider and deck back in two or three years for a full service and more deck repair welding if needed.
Enjoy your videos. Where did you get the copper puck? Thanks
I have the same mower and am having trouble leveling the deck. Do you have any information on the adjustments?
I'd really want to know the total bill on this clients mower. You're putting so much time into it.
A few hundred dollars to extend the life of a deck worth thousands by a few years isn't bad. This is why preventative maintenance is always important!
@@EliminatorPerformance damn. only a few $100 to do all that welding? I'd easily pay someone to do that.
@@norge696 You also need to add in material costs like MIG wire, welding gas, 1/8" steel plate, grinding wheels, primer and orange paint, Krown undercoating, 3 blade sharpen and balance, time for wire wheel cleaning under the deck. All of this and it adds up to a few hundred and a few more but in the long run the customer is extremely happy that he has a deck that will keep him cutting for years to come.
What kinda price range would this be ??? Looks like 5 hours of labor and little material 😊I heard a new bare deck is 12/15 hundred if that’s true 😢
so how many hrs did u have into that whole deal ...what did u charge ? that was alot a cuttin n fabbing up patches ..!! turned out well ...shld left the patches grey so the guy cld see what he had to pay to get fixed ...cause he dont clean the deck ...LOL we see it all the time in our shop ..ppl just dnt get it LOL good video!!!
Well with the filming it was probably 12hrs because I did about 3 days working for 4hrs each but when I'm doing videos that use the tripod and multiple camera angles, plus music it takes me significantly longer because I don't have a cameraman, it's me setting everything up, pressing record and then getting to work, then repositioning everything. This job by itself was charged at 4hrs plus materials. Cost the customer about $400 which extends the life of the mower a few more years at least.
That is awesome! What type of welding were you doing in your previous life? This is very similar to welding patches in an old car body. No way you can run a continuous bead. It has to be stitch welded. Have you found any orange paint that is a close match for Ariens orange? I wondered if a paint store could tint a white base of Tremclad to match? I know you can buy actual Ariens paint, but it is very, very expensive. It is similar to this orange on your deck. If not, i guess i could use what you used here.
I used to do SMAW and also Mig welding structures that were used as pump houses in the oil and gas industry. Then went on to weld at a Drop Forge plant doing maintenance and also fabrication for basically anything they could think of, I could build it. Also, BeautiTone sells an Alkyd Kubota orange paint at Home Hardware here in Canada, but they were out of stock so we got this. And yes, similar to body work on a car, always tacking, low amps and trying to move around the metal to keep prevent hot spots. Thanks for watching!
I'm nosey, did you charge by the HR for that job?? I think creating a patter for a larger longer area, then cut that in metal, then weld would of not been so time consuming and a stiffer outcome
Customer actually got charged roughly 1/3 of the actual hours spent on welding. #1 a great loyal customer #2 many referral customers from this customer #3 actually was my sons technical teacher in high school. At Eliminator Performance we charge by the hour but also give our regular customers and sometime initial customers a discount on both labour and parts that is why the business has grown to what it is today from 10 years ago. Offering 1 to 2 day returns also helps!
Where do you get the copper puck
Is it really worth the time and money to make repairs to the deck? It may be time to say goodbye to the deck or the whole mower. 👋
Have you priced a new mower and deck lately? Why not fix older equipment that was built better than the recent Chinesium crap. I keep my older equipment running because its built much better and had more than a 5 year planned usable life. But, if you want more debt and landfill crap go ahead and buy a new one :)
Yes it's worth it when you can get a few more years out of them, maybe do another repair in a few years. We'll have to wait and see how bad it gets. That's why preventative maintenance is always best. Thanks for watching!
That was my thought. How much time was spent?
To replace this liquid cooled riding tractor would be a great expense and this repair with possibly a few more every 2nd or 3rd year keeps this fine piece of equipment running for many more years to come. If the owner only cuts when the grass is dry they may not ever need another repair job on this deck, cut when dry and keep the top clean of debris and stored out of the weather.
@@beanolatte2682 Jake spent a lot of time welding this deck but because this is a regular customer only charged out a 3 hour labour rate. Likely without counting the time of moving the camera and video time the likely spent a full 8 hours which included cleaning, cutting the deck and plate steel, grinding to fit and welding plus the final prime and paint.
They should make these mower decks out of aluminum, so that it would NEVER rust. I'm sure that they won't because they want you to continue to buy new mowers.🤔🤔🤔🤔
Or 304 stainless steel? Like the MTD Pro stainless mowers. Very rare, only sold for a very limited time.
@@EliminatorPerformance I love your channel by the way. Keep up the good work. 😊👍🏿
@@patrickpoulard24 thanks!
Right on Patrick but the cost of an aluminium deck would have drastically increased the original selling price of this riding tractor and deck. Cutting grass in dry weather conditions only and this deck would still look like new, or at least cleaning the underside after cutting wet grass.