I often wonder if its something wrong with this obssesion of mine to fall asleep only with crime documentaries,every single night. But then i read the comments and have a great feeling of understanding by the fact that are so many people out there doing the exact same thing and happy about it. Cheers to you all out there 😊
In Austria a "life sentence" is not much more... if you behave good you can get out after 15 years - only in some cases there is subsequent security custody. Otherwise a life-sentence is 15-25 years here...
@@richardcranium3579 ,great observation man! So "intellectuals" are worth less than those with lower intellect- am guessing you are just providing yourself with a good excuse!
@@rogerhagger what I’m saying (you must consider yourself intellectual) is that those who are given the job of protecting society by keeping monsters locked up seem to be the first to want to release them to victimize society……..let me know if that was written on too high of an intellectual level and I’ll bring it down a notch or two…. But you shouldn’t have any trouble with it right?! It’s only we the slow that struggle..,.::: What a crass human being you are.
European prison sentences are a joke. There are some people who are not going to be rehabilitated. There are some people who need to be removed from society for life.
Same in the US. Some people are sentenced for years for misdemeanor crimes: but others are never held accountable for serious crimes because of woke policies or family connections. It's bullshit!
Sentences for crime in Canada are more lenient, because we haven't built more prisons for decades, so now it's basically one revolving door to let some out to bring more in!
Lol I mean I'm a dude and do it, I think it might have something with falling asleep in my moms room while she watched serial killer docs and cops and other crime dramas lol
The first one just shows the depth of this psychopath’s narcissism. Imagine being so arrogant he wasn’t even a bit scared to start to raping and killing after a huge unheard of break, and almost immediately after being released. You know he KNEW the reputation of the Cecil Hotel, he stayed there by design. His looks and smaller stature was definitely really deceiving too. I’m betting every single last person that fought to get him released early from his first sentence was left feeling guilty for the rest of their lives. He outsmarted everyone. His arrogance got him busted. What a depraved person. Had he been sentenced in the US he would’ve gotten the death penalty and kept alive till the State could do it. The arrogance to even take his own life immediately. Robbed the families of any justice.
@@Long-live-vacationmost don't care. Look at the $hit going on now! Letting shoplifters and organized theft rings have a hay day in stores. Letting BLM and Antifa rioters and looters out with little or no bond or bail. Often not seeking to prosecute them.
The type of people who fought for his release are the type of people that would vote democrat. Not a good judge of character even with ample evidence and admissions of guilt of previous dirty deeds.
are so right! So full of their own delusions and self-righteousness they can’t see past their own noses. It’s like their “virtue signaling” blinds them to the real world. And you know those jackasses that petitioned for him to be released were no where to be found when he went to trail that second time. Just washed their hands of the monster they had worked so hard to have released early. They should have had to pay the victims family’s recompense because their foolish and selfish virtue signaling aloud that monster back into society.
You're all so correct! As soon as I heard the word "artists," I knew they were new age liberals even if it was years before the "woke" mob came about, especially since this particular story happened in Austria, which was a nest of Solcialists and Nazis.
In 1975 he, Vega, was assessed by a psychiatrist during the trail of his first murder, he was diagnosed as extremely dangerous unpredictable and incurable individual! Report stated he demonstrated egocentricity, aggressiveness and sexual perversion with a sadistic component!! Yet that wasn’t enough to keep him in prison!!! I don’t understand that!! HOW???
Its like how people in hollywood support all sorts of criminals then when the criminal is caught they all wash their hands and say it was a one off event. Egos are egos and the social elite felt he was reformed so they could push a false narrative that fit their desires. Anybody who lobbied for his release should be held accountable in some sense for the crimes
Because prison is for people that have done a crime, not people who could, may, or even probably will do a crime. Do you honestly think people should be condemned to prison based off of the report of a single person, without trial, and without being convicted of a crime?
I feel that those who release this monster - should be held accountable. The psychiatrist to assessed during his first trial should have been called to testify again - his assessment was spot on.
@@jaymason480 I think it's go more to do with the British justice system than her being a woman. Look at murderers like Peter Tobin for proof of that - he went on to kill again. In Britain, life should actually start to mean life - not this maximum 30 years or whatever. They didn't let Myra Hindley out nor will Rosemary West ever get out either.
My dad was murdered when I was two years old and there was never justice done, so that being said I was into crime stories on what makes these ppl, do what they do? I would love to get a job in forensics, but need to go to college for it.
I am with you in your search. My father was murdered when I was 8 in 1972 and we still have no answers. They say only 1% of cold cases like those of our dear fathers are ever solved. God Bless and Keep you and I pray for your Dad's case to be solved.
I hope both of your families get justice. As someone who's family member was murdered (but was solved), I can certainly sympathize. The grieving process is very different when it comes through the violent act of another human being. Blessings on you and your families on your journeys. 🖤
All it takes is for someone who will put heart and soul into it. Maybe that person will come along and they will find something that was overlooked years ago. DNA and other forensics have come a long way.
Been through traumatic situations that could have resulted in me being murdered. I'm interested in the way these types of individuals operate as well. Also, I would love to have a career in forensics. I'd like to add that I give my condolences to you for your loss.
I’m 4 minutes in and dumbfounded that the woman who is the psychiatrist literally stated “people like Huntervagar can change in prison if they acknowledge what they did was wrong.” The man was a SERIAL KILLER!!! They can not change.
Why can't these learned psychiatrist not admit that these sexual predictors can not rehabilitate at all. Nor do psychopaths. They should simply be removed from society permanently. Life should mean life, no parole.
Andrews was released in July 2011. She was banned from travelling within 25 miles of her victim's family without supervision. Andrews became a grandmother in December 2010, when her 20-year old daughter gave birth to a girl.[10] After her release, Andrews changed her name to Tia Carter and altered her appearance, undergoing £5,000 surgery through the National Health Service to change the shape of her distinctive jaw, and later changed her name again to Jenna Stephens/Jenna Stephens Goldsworthy.[11][12][13][1] In 2017, she married bouncer Phil Goldsworthy.[1] When plans to release her were announced, a fellow female inmate and former prison lover of Andrews said that Andrews had continued to act possessively and aggressively in relationships while in prison, revealing that Andrews had attacked and strangled her after seeing her speaking with her ex-girlfriend.[14] The woman said she was opposed to Andrews' release and warned she would kill again
So many of these crimes could be avoided if the CJS stopped believing/supporting crazy, criminal behavior. I sincerely believe in innocent until proven guilty, but some of these stories are so insane and the explanation so unbelievably bad,. Evidence is either ignored or glossed over without any actual fact gathering. Negligent incompetence at worst, criminal incompetence at best. Does anyone do their damn job anymore?
2:09:05 One victim was only 4 YEARS OLD!!!!! He had sexually abused her, then killed her, then dismembered her body... that is incredibly bone-chilling..beyond horrific.. no words...
In my 23 years as a LEO investigating murders, one thing is a sure bet in that sexual sadists will never change. If anyone is familiar with the story of the scorpion and the frog, the scorpion will always be what he is, a scorpion. Sexual sadists will never change because that is who they are. When caught, rest assured it's not during their first offense. Nature or nurture is never the issue because they are born evil.
The fact that the doctor said the one killer that was caught cooking the little 4 year old girl wasn't all bad needs to turn in his license. He needs a doctor!
I think his intention was to let people out there know that people that appear to be good on the outside are capable of monstrous acts so keep your eyes on your kids.
@@suzannenichols6900 Liberals need to defend the criminals because it shows the system is corrupt. They let a man out and he brutalized a dozen women. Big yike LOLZ
@@suzannenichols6900 It's the same mindset that got Adnan Syed out. Losers convince themselves they're the real heroes by letting unrepentant murderers out of prison. Let's give him a job at Georgetown, what's the worst that could happen? 🙃
The crazy thing about Eckert is that they say his kink was having full control of the person...so I guess he has truly never had an loving s*xual relationship with a woman, because in my experience when you truly gain the trust of a woman where she gives herself fully, she is giving you something truly powerful. And there are few moments in life where you feel more in control because someone with full agency is giving them self to you freely.
I’ve always wondered why serial killers who seek to dominate their victims don’t pick on someone their own size, or larger. According to most calculations through time, women are smaller and have less muscle power than men (with exceptions). Therefore, if someone wants to feel in control and powerful, why don’t they stalk strong men or women who are even stronger than themselves? That would be more likely to give a sense of power. Like the movie “Predator,” there’s the idea that if you’re hunting someone of your equal strength or greater, that’s hunting. Otherwise, it’s just a violent act on someone weaker than yourself. And that’s truly pathetic.
Well, they can't feel powerful and be in control if they have to risk someone overpowering them, can they? Remember that saying we've heard all our lives. "Pick on someone your own size", what people told bullies when we were growing up
@@marshapieroni6677 I hear what you are saying, and at the same time, what is the "fun" in overpowering someone weaker than you? It's like a 200 lb boxing person going against a 90 lb kid. Really? In what way would that make anyone feel powerful? It's only a challenge if it's a challenge. Like in Rocky IV, when Rocky and Drago are about equally matched and battle it out. I think that people who prey on people weaker than themselves are the pathetic weak ones.
It's not about physical strength. It's about the power of manipulating them and luring them, and cheating the system. Besides, he hated women, not men, and he was sexually interested in women, not men.
The story Tracy gave the police makes no sense, if your partner was stabbed to death why would the perpetrator just kill them but leave you alive as a witness?
Once a serial killer, always one, I think. A person who kills once is able to be rehabilitated in most cases. Then there's just horrific people who cannot be heard nor helped. Whether it be greed or craziness beyond our comprehension, no doctor or prison is helpful. They're some sick individuals in this world.
I think it depends on the motive. One kill from a person who is enraged? Maybe. One kill from a psychopath who is sexually motivated? Probably not. Although there is that Japanese guy who killed and ate a female classmate in France, and then was released when deported to Japan. He hasn’t, as far as I’m aware, murdered anyone else. He’s a minor celebrity now in Japan. There was Jack Unterweger who killed one person, taught himself to read and write in prison, and became a noted children’s story author, journalist, and poet. He was released and started killing again five months later. He killed 10 more before he was caught.
@@willsmith4584 serial killers have been extensively studied by mental health professionals. There is no way to cure a psychopath. Serial killers who have a sadistic sexual motive report they still have violent sexual fantasies in prison, the same as those that fueled their killing before they were arrested. They just don’t have the ability to do anything about it. I would say this also points to sadistic sexual psychopaths being incurable. The only thing I’ve seen that points to a treatment was a young man who was diagnosed as a psychopath. His parents put him into biofeedback therapy to deal with his low level of emotional feelings. It seemed to help.
I think I heard something about a Leopard never changing his spots! Had justice been served the first time, you wouldn’t be telling us this evil story now. Justice does not simply punish the guilty, it is also intended to protect society. 15 years is not justice, it’s irresponsible and dangerous.
I think we like crime docs because it makes our problems feel tiny in comparison … it’s like hearing about someone at work who is in trouble it makes us feel like better employees by comparison lol
I think you're right! I do know there are lots of times, after watching one, I'm like, damn it's nice to be able to get a drink out of the fridge and take a shower anytime I want 😊. I do feel better about myself also. I be like, dang I'm not a bad person. I wonder of the detectives would say that in the interrogation room 😂
Being victims of crime make us feel as if we have no control over our lives or fate. It stimulates a primal part of the brain. I think true crime in part interests people for the reason you suggest but also because learning about it can soothe that part of our brain into thinking we can have some modicum of control as long as we know the signs and protect ourselves properly. Which is BS of course. And true fans know this, you can never truly protect yourself fully. But the monster you know is less scary than the unknown
thats a really small minded and almost pathetic way of looking at the world. i really hope the millions of people who watch these shows dont have a similar mindset - that'd be fucking depressing
I watch it to be always aware what humans do to each other. Many are too trusting of strangers, especially with “hook up” culture today. Assume they are psychopaths, until they are not, not the other way around.
...second story...the stabbing...42 stabs wounds it is NOT 42 movements of the hand BUT 84! as you stab you PULL your hand back and that is ANOTHER movement...savage and brutal...
Thank you for bringing unknown killers ( of the worst kind) but if it didn’t happen ind the US, we usually do not hear about it ! So keep up these new to us, your fans :) to enjoy 👍🏻
why not the people who failed to reform him/ why not those who still support our prison systems which has never managed to rehabilitate anyone? people are released every day from prisons. Do you trust they are better now than when they went in?
This is a lot like the case of Jack Henry Abbott in 1981, in New York. He was also an extremely talented writer (In the Belly of the Beast), who had the support of Norman Mailer and others in gaining parole. Six weeks after being paroled, he murdered a man in Manhattan. He was convicted and sent back to prison, and hanged himself in 2002. Sometimes, we don't recognize dangerous people. He was like a leopard, beautiful, but deadly dangerous. In this case his talent blinded people who should've known better to his danger. RIP, Richard Adan.
@@willsmith4584 One of the reasons for imprisonment is to protect society. For many reasons, there are many dangerous people in prison, and they cannot all be rehabilitated or reformed. Sometimes their personalities were formed by horrible circumstances growing up, some are psychopathic or sociopathic, or just plain bad. Many of their life stories would bring tears to your eyes. All I can think is "There, but for the grace of God, go I."
1:23:20 can u guys see the difference between the prison sentences in USA and the sentences in England, and Europe? This was the 2nd example, of a person, initially getting "life in prison", however ending up serving only 14, or 15years.. I don't see something like that happening in the US..oh, and her second story, about it being an act in self defence, makes no sense of course. You don't stab someone 42 times in self defence!!😅
46:40 They always say, how a divorce of someone's parents effects that person in a negative way for the rest of their lives.. Sorry, I just don't buy it. Sometimes of course it can really be so, but honestly, I think it doesn't necessarily leave such lasting and negative effects, especially with younger children, since they usually won't remember their life before the age of 6,or 7.. and I still believe, it is better for parents to get divorced, rather than fight like crazy and remain together. I am sure, that violent fights and screaming matches would be much worse for the children to endure on possibly daily basis, than a separation is.
Everyone seems to be confused about Tracey being on this list because she only killed one person. Im more confused about how she thought she was model material and people calling her beautiful.
2:16:00 Wait, what!? Sex is about control / power even worse... I had a bit of an uneasy feeling listening to this person talking ,and telling us her take on what a killer's said, if it's even half truth... talking about how his childhood was . Half baked psychiatrist The only thing worse than listening to these horrible crimes, is listening to these people giving these monsters a platform ,and almost an excuse for their actions... loads of loaner, abused, people didn't kill anyone , they just went on with their own lives by themselves...id say with God there is strength to move mountains
Let's be honest. Some deserve excuses and others don't, but we're no good at differentiating due to dark triad personalities who muddle everyone's lives up.
@chaoswitch1974 the only excuse i can think of ,for murdering someone and still being punished for a crime of murder, is if a guy murdered their abuser, but not in a way that was to "save their own life or someone else's " like self defense, but waiting till they are asleep and then instead of leaving and never going back ,they decide they want to kill. Not all is black and white like that,but its an example... but to go and murder women with dark hair ,because their abusive mother had dark hair, etc... Sometimes i feel like these bastards were abused by their parents for a reason, almost like their parents could tell.these were not good seeds,grow up and prove them right. I said almost.. like those girls who get an uneasy feeling about their boyfriend and decide to end things, and then their ex kills them and proves the girl was right to end things. Unfortunately too late. 🥴
2:14:10 I grew up on a farm ( like living in the early 1900s late 1800s ) If we couldn't grow it or make it we didn't have it basically like the Amish only in South Georgia .... slaughtering pigs cows and chickens I was helping at age 5 to 6 and shooting these animals and sticking them to bleed them out by age 7 to 8. helping to skin them out cutting the meat up making sausages to smoke etc.. This completely screwed me up I blame this on some of the fascinations and fantasies I have today as well as some I had growing up. Things that would bother some and give them nightmares was a simple everyday life task walking up and shooting a cow or pig in the head then plunging a knife into their heart to bleed them out was just everyday life for me. If I didn't want to or refused to do any of this I was beat till I did The guy my mom was seeing at the time ( he was born in 1930) until I was about 17 his family had owned a lot of land in the area for generations and owned slaves. This is how he was raised his father before him and his before him I've been beat with everything from a tobacco stick, 2x4,,belt, stick, switches, hair brush, fishing pole, etc. Heck one time I had a pot of rice threw at/ on me that had just finished cooking all I had on was a pair of shorts..... POINT OF THE STORY I DIDN'T GROW UP TO MURDER/KILL ANYONE! However I did break the cycle of abuse that was a part of my childhood as well as my moms, my father died wen I was about 1 year old . However when I was preteen and a teenager I did torture small animals as well as kXill them but I was able to get help and treatment and was able to understand and be taught this wasnt right and was able to stop this.
If you're having fantasies you need to talk to someone. To have fantasies and thoughts after what you admit to there is definitely an issue , and you are quite possibly - dangerous .
And you are proof that killers are not born killers but raised you are also proof that every killer stood at a crossroads and CHOSE to kill. You stood at the crossroads and chose to be a man instead. I’m sorry you lived through all that you deserved good parents they didn’t deserve you! You were better than them and they knew it and tried to destroy the amazing person you are. Proof is you stood at the crossroads and didn’t give in. That’s the hardest thing a man can do. And you did it! If the fantasies keep bothering you don’t be afraid to get more help that’s what the strong do, it must be painful to battle with those fantasies. Also avoid alcohol that makes fantasies stronger and lowers inhibitions and damages judgment.
Abusive parents suck. Do not live in that past l8fe. Create a beautiful life, make happy memories! If thoughts trouble you, take some therapy, give yourself every chance to live an honest life!! Good luck❤❤
I am so sorry you had to grow up that way. You are truly a warrior for rising above those who tried to beat you down and working to be a good human rather than let it control who you are. I can't imagine how difficult it would be to fight to be a better person than what you had for parents. I had a regular happy childhood so I cannot relate. If you decide to have children, another great thing you can gain is being a good, loving parent to your kids and be able to give them what you were denied. It doesn't make up for the fact that you had to suffer as a child, but it's a little redemption. You deserve the amazing love a child can give to a parent who takes good care of them. You missed out on that from your parents and it's not fair at all. Every child should be loved with all of a parent's heart and I personally don't know how a person can not have that love for their own kid..... It's the greatest love I've ever known, having my 3 kids. I could never think of treating them unkindly and abusively... I just can't comprehend wanting to harm a child. Good luck to you!
Austrian here. I was a kid when jack was popular. He was everywhere, in shows in the news and right in the “Bussi-bussi” (rich/artist/intellectuals)society. These people got him out of the prison in the first place, cause someone who wrote such great raw books, need and was entitled to a second chance. Only the old police man who got him the first time was warning everyone and he was the first to point at jack, after the killings started. Nobody cared. I remember seeing his face and feeling uneasy. So I wasn’t surprised when they put him in prison again. The “fun” thing was that the society what helped him, let him fall like a hot potato after the rest started to think that he was the killer. They were very humiliated and claimed they never really thought him being one of them. Only his lawyer (woman) still thinks today, that he is innocent and still tries to proof it. His last girlfriend (teen) has still ptsd from everything he put her through.
I think the most shocking reaction to a killer getting caught I've ever seen is Luka Magnotta. He led everyone on a wild goose chase and only got caught when he let them find him. That's what I got from it anyway. And the act he put on for awhile at the police station until he got tired of it and let em know he was fucking with em that whole time.. His evil smile at the end of Don't F**k with Cats was so chilling. That dude was a psycho. It's been a few years since I watched it, so I apologize if I don't have my facts straight.
Growing up without a father is NO DAMNED excuse to commit murder, as well as suffering from abuse. These are cop out excuses. I raised 5 children mostly without their fathers, including my nephew, and NONE OF THEM HAVE BECOME MURDERERS.
Dr. Yardley, you are a fascinating narrator, as well as Journalist Wanseland other presenters. Prison straightened me out considerably. I had very educated associates in the department of corrections. I even read most volumes of the Story of Civilization by Will Duran.
As a bleeding heart, my views are quite a bit more nuanced but I see that you have no grace to grant. There's an ongoing debate over here at the bleeding hearts table about what can be attributed to environment versus nature. You'd have to be pretty dull to not realize that environment isn't always the answer. Blanket statements are fun though, aren't they?
1:09:49. That's a face of heavy drug use. Bro was probably about to boot her. Messing up her financial leeching of him. 1:14 holy fakeup, batman. Sheesh. Looks like 2 different people. We're snozz rings a big thing back in the 90s?
She only got 14 years for stabbing a man over 40 times? And people talk about the American justice system. She should still be in prison. A life is gone and she's living a normal life.
I too am fascinated by killers and cults and disturbing things. It's just curiosity, I think. Just like it was curiosity that led me to liveleaks and bestgore in the 90s when the internet was just a baby. I had never seen real gore before, and I wanted to see it! (Except for the Faces of Death movies and those turned out to be fake I think) And all of a sudden, the internet arrived and you could type a few letters and find almost anything you could think of. The moment I realized that was something I'll never forget. Until then, if it wasn't at the library, or someone you knew didn't have the knowledge of what you wanted to know, you just had to live with the fact that you would probably never get that information. I think the birth of the the internet shocked us ppl who grew up without it, it was a very powerful thing to have access to all of a sudden. I was about 20 when the internet came out, so I was alive a long time without the ability to gain knowledge and info so easily. My mom caught me looking at pics of dead bodies and crime scenes soon after I discovered I could and she was devastated. She thought I was going to end up a criminal. Lol
I read the comments before seeing Tracy Andrews on this program. There is a picture of TE with a bruised eye making a weird face. I swear that could be Courtney Love.
Some of these so called Dr's should be brought up on charges and forfeit there license or something most criminals have a brain it's all choice always blaming how the criminal grew up bull they chose to do what they do
Except those who have psychosis. When in a psychotic state, a person truly believes their delusions. It's so sad because once medicated, they are many times horrified by what they did, or their minds are just so jumbled, they they can't grasp it. In those cases, I truly believe a person is ill and should have treatment. Until you experience severe mental illness yourself, or live/work closely with someone with psychosis, I don't think people truly understand it. So in that case, I think we need to not dismiss mental illness as a defense because in no way is it a choice. I do agree with you that in many other cases it is a choice made by those who clearly know what they're doing is wrong.
People like to conveniently forget that the German people were living under an oppressive dictatorship and had no choice but to do what they were told. My family lived in Berlin during the 30s and 40s and they suffered terribly at the hands of a government that they HATED.
A life sentence means absolutely nothing anymore > . . .Guess what, the criminal knows this also . Good luck to our communties in the future . . . .Put them on an island and let them try to get along...Would make a cool reality show . . . .Include Judges also .... ...
I can only write this...trust your senses...there was this guy i really disliked and he knew that...he saw it in my eyes but always kept clear because i have some reputation...turns out one night he stabbed his ex in public (!) in the heart. So, people u don t like or have an eery feeling about, always keep an extra eye on them...u might be just right...stay safe 👊🏽
All the people that supported and push the release of the first guy have nine life’s in their hands if they would’ve just thought of the poor 18 year old and her family
Hear, hear! The only bleeding hearts that should be involved here are the bleeding hearts of serial killers. Why we house, feed, and treat these things as if they are human is beyond me.
@@willsmith4584I wouldn't want to live anywhere near you mate, you seem to have a serious problem , judging from all the criminal loving comments you're making.. Maybe you should volunteer your home as a shelter for all these people who are let out, maybe even babysit for you
I sleep with crime tv also!😊 my adult son asked if watching too much crime and murder make you depressed? To an extent, I believe, knowing how much evil is around us all the time.
I listen to crime tv while working because it requires a lot of time sitting in computers. I do get depresses some times and then I switch to standup comedy. Hope it helps
I often wonder if its something wrong with this obssesion of mine to fall asleep only with crime documentaries,every single night. But then i read the comments and have a great feeling of understanding by the fact that are so many people out there doing the exact same thing and happy about it. Cheers to you all out there 😊
Same to you my fellow addict...smile
I fall asleep to Cold Case Files every night. Bill Kurtis's voice is soothing.
I wonder how many of us loving listening to crime videos are women 🤔 😊
I can't fall asleep without listening to true crime. I'm glad to see I'm not alone 😂😂😂
Same habit, I love the calming voices of Jill and Dick from True crime brewery and the anonymous reader of Casefile
The only prison reform needed is NOT letting convicted murderers out after 15 years.
I want INTERVIEWS with Arts COMMUNITY, who was for his release!! INSTEAD: " PROFESSIONLS" are interviewed !!! HELLO!!!!!!!
@lewiscarey1593 you'll hear something like 'killing is a form of art'
@lewiscarey1593, which means the public is guinea pigs/experiment for these professionals.
FACTS
14 years is a crime in it self!!!! So wrong!!!!!
How in the heck did the first man get released from prison in the first place?? He should never have gotten out!
Because those considered “intellectual” called for it……shows how much “intellectuals” are worth.
@@richardcranium3579so true! Blinded by their selfish virtue signaling.
In Austria a "life sentence" is not much more... if you behave good you can get out after 15 years - only in some cases there is subsequent security custody. Otherwise a life-sentence is 15-25 years here...
@@richardcranium3579 ,great observation man! So "intellectuals" are worth less than those with lower intellect- am guessing you are just providing yourself with a good excuse!
@@rogerhagger what I’m saying (you must consider yourself intellectual) is that those who are given the job of protecting society by keeping monsters locked up seem to be the first to want to release them to victimize society……..let me know if that was written on too high of an intellectual level and I’ll bring it down a notch or two…. But you shouldn’t have any trouble with it right?!
It’s only we the slow that struggle..,.:::
What a crass human being you are.
Most psychiatrists know that there is no cure for a confirmed psychopath.
Most psychiatrists are psychopaths themselves!
Serial murderers can NOT change.
CANNOT is ONE word.....not two
Can't = can not.
We don’t want to
European prison sentences are a joke. There are some people who are not going to be rehabilitated. There are some people who need to be removed from society for life.
US prisons are about the same TBH. Seems to be an infection in western thinking.
Same in the US. Some people are sentenced for years for misdemeanor crimes: but others are never held accountable for serious crimes because of woke policies or family connections. It's bullshit!
People in America get *much* more time. I'm often disgusted to hear how short sentences criminals get in Europe.
It's disgusting 🤢🤮
Sentences for crime in Canada are more lenient, because we haven't built more prisons for decades, so now it's basically one revolving door to let some out to bring more in!
The "charming" ones are usually the deadly ones.
Always charismatic. Like Ted Bundy.
When my farts are anything to go by, it's mostly the silent ones that are the deadly ones.
Not true. My wife calls me prince charming
Politicians
Good night my fellow crimers!
Good Night fellow crimer
Good night fellow crimer
Have a sleep, fellow crimer.
Good night crimer ❤
😂😂 it brings comfort to know millions of people fall asleep like I do ❤❤❤❤ sleep well to all the worlds true crime sleepers 😊
Then how disgusting and sick to allow a sociopath and narcissistic killer to read story time stories to little kids😳🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Yes, very discusting...
and he did it with a hard on
@@erikaschlafferdiaz9197 i agree 100%
Same with drag queens. Unacceptable
Yeah I have no fucking clue how anybody on Earth would have let this happen.
I know I’m not the only one, so.. Like if you, like myself, always put these kinda serial killer documentaries on to go to sleep to 💤 💙
Oddly yeah I do too
I absolutely do, I'd be very interested to know how many of us with this habit are women 🤔 😊
Lol I mean I'm a dude and do it, I think it might have something with falling asleep in my moms room while she watched serial killer docs and cops and other crime dramas lol
I do too 😂
Mind you I’m a former Detective of 17 years 😂
The first one just shows the depth of this psychopath’s narcissism. Imagine being so arrogant he wasn’t even a bit scared to start to raping and killing after a huge unheard of break, and almost immediately after being released. You know he KNEW the reputation of the Cecil Hotel, he stayed there by design.
His looks and smaller stature was definitely really deceiving too.
I’m betting every single last person that fought to get him released early from his first sentence was left feeling guilty for the rest of their lives. He outsmarted everyone. His arrogance got him busted. What a depraved person. Had he been sentenced in the US he would’ve gotten the death penalty and kept alive till the State could do it.
The arrogance to even take his own life immediately. Robbed the families of any justice.
I hope they do feel bad for the rest of their lives. I hope they apologize to the first girls family.
@@Long-live-vacationmost don't care. Look at the $hit going on now! Letting shoplifters and organized theft rings have a hay day in stores. Letting BLM and Antifa rioters and looters out with little or no bond or bail. Often not seeking to prosecute them.
The type of people who fought for his release are the type of people that would vote democrat. Not a good judge of character even with ample evidence and admissions of guilt of previous dirty deeds.
are so right! So full of their own delusions and self-righteousness they can’t see past their own noses. It’s like their “virtue signaling” blinds them to the real world. And you know those jackasses that petitioned for him to be released were no where to be found when he went to trail that second time. Just washed their hands of the monster they had worked so hard to have released early. They should have had to pay the victims family’s recompense because their foolish and selfish virtue signaling aloud that monster back into society.
You're all so correct! As soon as I heard the word "artists," I knew they were new age liberals even if it was years before the "woke" mob came about, especially since this particular story happened in Austria, which was a nest of Solcialists and Nazis.
Of course they should have kept an eye on him. Those monsters don't change and they should have known it even then
They did. That’s the real problem.
You mean they should have kept him locked up!
@@RottenInDenmarkOrginal Oops, pro women libs just doing what they do letting men who violate women out of prison so they can violate so more LOLZ
less than a minute in and we’ve already got a good example of how JUDGES DROP THE BALL ON SENTENCING 🤬
That’s why LIFE SHOULD MEAN LIFE
In 1975 he, Vega, was assessed by a psychiatrist during the trail of his first murder, he was diagnosed as extremely dangerous unpredictable and incurable individual! Report stated he demonstrated egocentricity, aggressiveness and sexual perversion with a sadistic component!!
Yet that wasn’t enough to keep him in prison!!! I don’t understand that!!
HOW???
Our justice system needs work. I don’t get it either, but some judges and jury get it wrong…seemingly more often than not
Its like how people in hollywood support all sorts of criminals then when the criminal is caught they all wash their hands and say it was a one off event. Egos are egos and the social elite felt he was reformed so they could push a false narrative that fit their desires. Anybody who lobbied for his release should be held accountable in some sense for the crimes
Because prison is for people that have done a crime, not people who could, may, or even probably will do a crime. Do you honestly think people should be condemned to prison based off of the report of a single person, without trial, and without being convicted of a crime?
I feel that those who release this monster - should be held accountable. The psychiatrist to assessed during his first trial should have been called to testify again - his assessment was spot on.
I agree @@LJ-ht4zs
My only comment about the sentence of Tracey Andrews is that she got out after 14 years and her boyfriend got a real life sentence of death.
That is women's privilege. They can do exactly the same crime as a man but women will get a lesser sentences.
@@jaymason480 I think it's go more to do with the British justice system than her being a woman. Look at murderers like Peter Tobin for proof of that - he went on to kill again. In Britain, life should actually start to mean life - not this maximum 30 years or whatever. They didn't let Myra Hindley out nor will Rosemary West ever get out either.
The downfall of Western society all planned from the top.
My dad was murdered when I was two years old and there was never justice done, so that being said I was into crime stories on what makes these ppl, do what they do? I would love to get a job in forensics, but need to go to college for it.
I am with you in your search. My father was murdered when I was 8 in 1972 and we still have no answers. They say only 1% of cold cases like those of our dear fathers are ever solved.
God Bless and Keep you and I pray for your Dad's case to be solved.
I hope both of your families get justice.
As someone who's family member was murdered (but was solved), I can certainly sympathize. The grieving process is very different when it comes through the violent act of another human being.
Blessings on you and your families on your journeys. 🖤
All it takes is for someone who will put heart and soul into it. Maybe that person will come along and they will find something that was overlooked years ago. DNA and other forensics have come a long way.
Mine was murdered when i was 1 buy his mistress
Been through traumatic situations that could have resulted in me being murdered. I'm interested in the way these types of individuals operate as well. Also, I would love to have a career in forensics. I'd like to add that I give my condolences to you for your loss.
I’m 4 minutes in and dumbfounded that the woman who is the psychiatrist literally stated “people like Huntervagar can change in prison if they acknowledge what they did was wrong.” The man was a SERIAL KILLER!!! They can not change.
It's the same with p-files. It's beyond the pale that they ever get out
I felt the same..her whole analysis is that of a sunday night football commentator after the game had ended.
They can change, it takes an extremely long time
Facts
unterweger
Why can't these learned psychiatrist not admit that these sexual predictors can not rehabilitate at all. Nor do psychopaths. They should simply be removed from society permanently. Life should mean life, no parole.
Always great stories with great narrators. Keep them coming 👍👍
Andrews was released in July 2011. She was banned from travelling within 25 miles of her victim's family without supervision. Andrews became a grandmother in December 2010, when her 20-year old daughter gave birth to a girl.[10] After her release, Andrews changed her name to Tia Carter and altered her appearance, undergoing £5,000 surgery through the National Health Service to change the shape of her distinctive jaw, and later changed her name again to Jenna Stephens/Jenna Stephens Goldsworthy.[11][12][13][1] In 2017, she married bouncer Phil Goldsworthy.[1]
When plans to release her were announced, a fellow female inmate and former prison lover of Andrews said that Andrews had continued to act possessively and aggressively in relationships while in prison, revealing that Andrews had attacked and strangled her after seeing her speaking with her ex-girlfriend.[14] The woman said she was opposed to Andrews' release and warned she would kill again
Gotta love the law for not providing protection
Wow. I haven't watched the story on her yet. Was she released early?
Would have never gotten out after 6 years, after murdering all those women in the U.S., what were they thinking?
Justice is screwed with our current system!
So many of these crimes could be avoided if the CJS stopped believing/supporting crazy, criminal behavior. I sincerely believe in innocent until proven guilty, but some of these stories are so insane and the explanation so unbelievably bad,. Evidence is either ignored or glossed over without any actual fact gathering. Negligent incompetence at worst, criminal incompetence at best. Does anyone do their damn job anymore?
Nothing like waking up to an extra long crime video on a quiet Saturday morning!!! Hope everyone has an amazing weekend!! Take care!
You too 😊
Lol! You too!
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A children’s program called the little “sandman” is coming written by a serial killer sounds creepy as f 😮
😂right wtheck
Tell me this is a joke!
@@twincherry4958 I had to double check too . crazy, right?
2:09:05 One victim was only 4 YEARS OLD!!!!! He had sexually abused her, then killed her, then dismembered her body... that is incredibly bone-chilling..beyond horrific.. no words...
It's pretty sickening.
He's evil
In my 23 years as a LEO investigating murders, one thing is a sure bet in that sexual sadists will never change. If anyone is familiar with the story of the scorpion and the frog, the scorpion will always be what he is, a scorpion. Sexual sadists will never change because that is who they are. When caught, rest assured it's not during their first offense. Nature or nurture is never the issue because they are born evil.
.so I guess you have met and studied sexual sadists and you are certain they were ALL born sexual sadists?
You watch these crime shows for fun or research?
In your experience, would you consider a non violent rapist a sexual sadist?
@@laurieb3703 how can there be a non violent rape?
Very well said, Officer.
The fact that the doctor said the one killer that was caught cooking the little 4 year old girl wasn't all bad needs to turn in his license. He needs a doctor!
I think his intention was to let people out there know that people that appear to be good on the outside are capable of monstrous acts so keep your eyes on your kids.
I'm only finished the first story and I can't imagine how anyone in their right mind would have let the FIRST person out. EVER!
@@suzannenichols6900 Liberals need to defend the criminals because it shows the system is corrupt. They let a man out and he brutalized a dozen women. Big yike LOLZ
@@suzannenichols6900 It's the same mindset that got Adnan Syed out. Losers convince themselves they're the real heroes by letting unrepentant murderers out of prison. Let's give him a job at Georgetown, what's the worst that could happen? 🙃
This is so incredibly stupid how criminals continue to be released
The crazy thing about Eckert is that they say his kink was having full control of the person...so I guess he has truly never had an loving s*xual relationship with a woman, because in my experience when you truly gain the trust of a woman where she gives herself fully, she is giving you something truly powerful. And there are few moments in life where you feel more in control because someone with full agency is giving them self to you freely.
Wow!🙂
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Oh that's brilliant!! Quite well said!
I’ve always wondered why serial killers who seek to dominate their victims don’t pick on someone their own size, or larger. According to most calculations through time, women are smaller and have less muscle power than men (with exceptions). Therefore, if someone wants to feel in control and powerful, why don’t they stalk strong men or women who are even stronger than themselves? That would be more likely to give a sense of power. Like the movie “Predator,” there’s the idea that if you’re hunting someone of your equal strength or greater, that’s hunting. Otherwise, it’s just a violent act on someone weaker than yourself. And that’s truly pathetic.
Well, they can't feel powerful and be in control if they have to risk someone overpowering them, can they? Remember that saying we've heard all our lives. "Pick on someone your own size", what people told bullies when we were growing up
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What a simple thing to say.
@@marshapieroni6677 I hear what you are saying, and at the same time, what is the "fun" in overpowering someone weaker than you? It's like a 200 lb boxing person going against a 90 lb kid. Really? In what way would that make anyone feel powerful? It's only a challenge if it's a challenge. Like in Rocky IV, when Rocky and Drago are about equally matched and battle it out. I think that people who prey on people weaker than themselves are the pathetic weak ones.
It's not about physical strength. It's about the power of manipulating them and luring them, and cheating the system. Besides, he hated women, not men, and he was sexually interested in women, not men.
The story Tracy gave the police makes no sense, if your partner was stabbed to death why would the perpetrator just kill them but leave you alive as a witness?
Cos he found her really attractive 😅
I just can not imagine how the family of the 18 year old girl that was killed by the man that got out after 15years
Yeah, and they had to constantly hear the media and politicians say how fantastic he was!!!!😮 Horrifying!!!
Once a serial killer, always one, I think.
A person who kills once is able to be rehabilitated in most cases.
Then there's just horrific people who cannot be heard nor helped.
Whether it be greed or craziness beyond our comprehension, no doctor or prison is helpful.
They're some sick individuals in this world.
Agree. Some folks are just messed up chemically. There’s nothing that can change a brain like that.
I think it depends on the motive. One kill from a person who is enraged? Maybe. One kill from a psychopath who is sexually motivated? Probably not. Although there is that Japanese guy who killed and ate a female classmate in France, and then was released when deported to Japan. He hasn’t, as far as I’m aware, murdered anyone else. He’s a minor celebrity now in Japan. There was Jack Unterweger who killed one person, taught himself to read and write in prison, and became a noted children’s story author, journalist, and poet. He was released and started killing again five months later. He killed 10 more before he was caught.
@@p1ekna.His 🧠 is 🤪....🤡....🤯
is this based on science or pulled from a behind?
@@willsmith4584 serial killers have been extensively studied by mental health professionals. There is no way to cure a psychopath. Serial killers who have a sadistic sexual motive report they still have violent sexual fantasies in prison, the same as those that fueled their killing before they were arrested. They just don’t have the ability to do anything about it. I would say this also points to sadistic sexual psychopaths being incurable.
The only thing I’ve seen that points to a treatment was a young man who was diagnosed as a psychopath. His parents put him into biofeedback therapy to deal with his low level of emotional feelings. It seemed to help.
I think I heard something about a Leopard never changing his spots! Had justice been served the first time, you wouldn’t be telling us this evil story now. Justice does not simply punish the guilty, it is also intended to protect society. 15 years is not justice, it’s irresponsible and dangerous.
Bleeding heart liberals at work lots of compassion for the criminals zero for their future victims 😂😂
I think we like crime docs because it makes our problems feel tiny in comparison … it’s like hearing about someone at work who is in trouble it makes us feel like better employees by comparison lol
I think you're right! I do know there are lots of times, after watching one, I'm like, damn it's nice to be able to get a drink out of the fridge and take a shower anytime I want 😊. I do feel better about myself also. I be like, dang I'm not a bad person. I wonder of the detectives would say that in the interrogation room 😂
@@marshapieroni6677 it makes being average feel amazing
Being victims of crime make us feel as if we have no control over our lives or fate. It stimulates a primal part of the brain. I think true crime in part interests people for the reason you suggest but also because learning about it can soothe that part of our brain into thinking we can have some modicum of control as long as we know the signs and protect ourselves properly. Which is BS of course. And true fans know this, you can never truly protect yourself fully. But the monster you know is less scary than the unknown
thats a really small minded and almost pathetic way of looking at the world. i really hope the millions of people who watch these shows dont have a similar mindset - that'd be fucking depressing
I watch it to be always aware what humans do to each other. Many are too trusting of strangers, especially with “hook up” culture today. Assume they are psychopaths, until they are not, not the other way around.
Love this program! ❤
Unterwegers “friends” supporters have to deal with they’re indirectly guilty of murder as well afterwards 🤦♂️
They shouldn't have had any say in that guys LIFE SENTENCE !
...second story...the stabbing...42 stabs wounds it is NOT 42 movements of the hand BUT 84! as you stab you PULL your hand back and that is ANOTHER movement...savage and brutal...
I imagine it's easier to come down with the knife than to come back up but good observation!
Thank you for bringing unknown killers ( of the worst kind) but if it didn’t happen ind the US, we usually do not hear about it ! So keep up these new to us, your fans :) to enjoy 👍🏻
Down right insulting how these crimes are not taken that serious by these therapist courts and judges.
I love when you upload one I haven’t seen yet.
I wonder how many service men have guilt and anxiety wondering if they were Jacks father? That would be enough to discourage having other children.
dna does not lie so if that man had children I am sure if they wanted to know they could know
Probably none sad to say
The people that supported Untervager’s release need to go to jail.
why not the people who failed to reform him/ why not those who still support our prison systems which has never managed to rehabilitate anyone? people are released every day from prisons. Do you trust they are better now than when they went in?
@@willsmith4584 I think they should never get out. Life in prison should be life in prison.
@@willsmith4584You can't reform somebody who doesn't want to be. Life in prison should be just that, end of
This is a lot like the case of Jack Henry Abbott in 1981, in New York. He was also an extremely talented writer (In the Belly of the Beast), who had the support of Norman Mailer and others in gaining parole. Six weeks after being paroled, he murdered a man in Manhattan. He was convicted and sent back to prison, and hanged himself in 2002. Sometimes, we don't recognize dangerous people. He was like a leopard, beautiful, but deadly dangerous. In this case his talent blinded people who should've known better to his danger. RIP, Richard Adan.
@@willsmith4584 One of the reasons for imprisonment is to protect society. For many reasons, there are many dangerous people in prison, and they cannot all be rehabilitated or reformed. Sometimes their personalities were formed by horrible circumstances growing up, some are psychopathic or sociopathic, or just plain bad. Many of their life stories would bring tears to your eyes. All I can think is "There, but for the grace of God, go I."
1:37:19 This is nuts!! A 14 year old child managed to trick the police and everyone else!!
Kids trick their own parents, so what else is new!
"Look b***h, you knew I was a snake" is all I can think about the first story.
First clue that Tracie was crazy is her thinking she could be a model.
Everyone is a "10" in her head
-Have you seen british women? 😅
@@exvan3571 No they aren't. Only narcissists think they are perfect. Most people are realistic.
@@phcusnret thank you for correcting my rhetorical commemt.
@@exvan3571 Sorry. I guess my rhetorical notification was turned off.
Thank you, DoeNut! We love you!
I've heard of all of these killers. Thanks for the upload during my September 2023 birthday month!
1:23:20 can u guys see the difference between the prison sentences in USA and the sentences in England, and Europe? This was the 2nd example, of a person, initially getting "life in prison", however ending up serving only 14, or 15years.. I don't see something like that happening in the US..oh, and her second story, about it being an act in self defence, makes no sense of course. You don't stab someone 42 times in self defence!!😅
The professional woman at the beginning of this documentary that said, violent criminals can go to jail and change, how ignorant can somebody be
They can change if they want to but you have to want to, to do that. Not everyone is willing. You are ignorant 😒
@@karentucker2161 ok thanks
46:40 They always say, how a divorce of someone's parents effects that person in a negative way for the rest of their lives.. Sorry, I just don't buy it. Sometimes of course it can really be so, but honestly, I think it doesn't necessarily leave such lasting and negative effects, especially with younger children, since they usually won't remember their life before the age of 6,or 7.. and I still believe, it is better for parents to get divorced, rather than fight like crazy and remain together. I am sure, that violent fights and screaming matches would be much worse for the children to endure on possibly daily basis, than a separation is.
Everyone seems to be confused about Tracey being on this list because she only killed one person. Im more confused about how she thought she was model material and people calling her beautiful.
I mean, she was attractive enough to justify her delusion, but started way too old.
Make up and the money for clothes, hair etc can make someone look unrecognizable. So in her portfolios she looks much differant
No idea how she was “beautiful” either. She’s rather hideous. The word homely comes to mind. Not sure what it means but she’s that lol
@@mandyohlin6886 well in the pics they showed of her I didn't see anything worth calling beautiful
Same thought...😊smile
Tracey Edwards am I missing something "attractive and pretty" 😳🤔🤨🤭🤣I guess BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER🤭
ONCE A PERSON IS GIVEN LIFE... THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE GIVEN &. NO ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO
* PETITION FOR THEM TO BE SET FREE
2:16:00 Wait, what!? Sex is about control / power even worse... I had a bit of an uneasy feeling listening to this person talking ,and telling us her take on what a killer's said, if it's even half truth... talking about how his childhood was . Half baked psychiatrist
The only thing worse than listening to these horrible crimes, is listening to these people giving these monsters a platform ,and almost an excuse for their actions... loads of loaner, abused, people didn't kill anyone , they just went on with their own lives by themselves...id say with God there is strength to move mountains
Let's be honest. Some deserve excuses and others don't, but we're no good at differentiating due to dark triad personalities who muddle everyone's lives up.
@chaoswitch1974 the only excuse i can think of ,for murdering someone and still being punished for a crime of murder, is if a guy murdered their abuser, but not in a way that was to "save their own life or someone else's " like self defense, but waiting till they are asleep and then instead of leaving and never going back ,they decide they want to kill. Not all is black and white like that,but its an example... but to go and murder women with dark hair ,because their abusive mother had dark hair, etc...
Sometimes i feel like these bastards were abused by their parents for a reason, almost like their parents could tell.these were not good seeds,grow up and prove them right. I said almost.. like those girls who get an uneasy feeling about their boyfriend and decide to end things, and then their ex kills them and proves the girl was right to end things. Unfortunately too late. 🥴
2:14:10 I grew up on a farm ( like living in the early 1900s late 1800s ) If we couldn't grow it or make it we didn't have it basically like the Amish only in South Georgia .... slaughtering pigs cows and chickens I was helping at age 5 to 6 and shooting these animals and sticking them to bleed them out by age 7 to 8. helping to skin them out cutting the meat up making sausages to smoke etc.. This completely screwed me up I blame this on some of the fascinations and fantasies I have today as well as some I had growing up. Things that would bother some and give them nightmares was a simple everyday life task walking up and shooting a cow or pig in the head then plunging a knife into their heart to bleed them out was just everyday life for me. If I didn't want to or refused to do any of this I was beat till I did The guy my mom was seeing at the time ( he was born in 1930) until I was about 17 his family had owned a lot of land in the area for generations and owned slaves. This is how he was raised his father before him and his before him I've been beat with everything from a tobacco stick, 2x4,,belt, stick, switches, hair brush, fishing pole, etc. Heck one time I had a pot of rice threw at/ on me that had just finished cooking all I had on was a pair of shorts..... POINT OF THE STORY I DIDN'T GROW UP TO MURDER/KILL ANYONE! However I did break the cycle of abuse that was a part of my childhood as well as my moms, my father died wen I was about 1 year old . However when I was preteen and a teenager I did torture small animals as well as kXill them but I was able to get help and treatment and was able to understand and be taught this wasnt right and was able to stop this.
If you're having fantasies you need to talk to someone. To have fantasies and thoughts after what you admit to there is definitely an issue , and you are quite possibly - dangerous .
And you are proof that killers are not born killers but raised you are also proof that every killer stood at a crossroads and CHOSE to kill. You stood at the crossroads and chose to be a man instead. I’m sorry you lived through all that you deserved good parents they didn’t deserve you! You were better than them and they knew it and tried to destroy the amazing person you are. Proof is you stood at the crossroads and didn’t give in. That’s the hardest thing a man can do. And you did it! If the fantasies keep bothering you don’t be afraid to get more help that’s what the strong do, it must be painful to battle with those fantasies. Also avoid alcohol that makes fantasies stronger and lowers inhibitions and damages judgment.
Maybe it was those African ancestors getting back at you
Abusive parents suck. Do not live in that past l8fe. Create a beautiful life, make happy memories! If thoughts trouble you, take some therapy, give yourself every chance to live an honest life!! Good luck❤❤
I am so sorry you had to grow up that way. You are truly a warrior for rising above those who tried to beat you down and working to be a good human rather than let it control who you are. I can't imagine how difficult it would be to fight to be a better person than what you had for parents. I had a regular happy childhood so I cannot relate.
If you decide to have children, another great thing you can gain is being a good, loving parent to your kids and be able to give them what you were denied. It doesn't make up for the fact that you had to suffer as a child, but it's a little redemption. You deserve the amazing love a child can give to a parent who takes good care of them. You missed out on that from your parents and it's not fair at all. Every child should be loved with all of a parent's heart and I personally don't know how a person can not have that love for their own kid..... It's the greatest love I've ever known, having my 3 kids. I could never think of treating them unkindly and abusively... I just can't comprehend wanting to harm a child.
Good luck to you!
I love you, Mike!
Model? What was Tracy Andrews modeling? Gloves?
Feet?
Hi I have sub.s Watching from Norge/ Norway
Like most criminals, his undoing was his own arrogance.
14 years is a life sentence ? Wow. The value of life is very low in Britain
They are more than victims. They are people with families and friends.
3 seconds in and this narrator is awesome in drawing you in 😅
Jack Unterweger: *I was cured all right*
Austrian here. I was a kid when jack was popular. He was everywhere, in shows in the news and right in the “Bussi-bussi” (rich/artist/intellectuals)society. These people got him out of the prison in the first place, cause someone who wrote such great raw books, need and was entitled to a second chance. Only the old police man who got him the first time was warning everyone and he was the first to point at jack, after the killings started. Nobody cared. I remember seeing his face and feeling uneasy. So I wasn’t surprised when they put him in prison again. The “fun” thing was that the society what helped him, let him fall like a hot potato after the rest started to think that he was the killer. They were very humiliated and claimed they never really thought him being one of them. Only his lawyer (woman) still thinks today, that he is innocent and still tries to proof it. His last girlfriend (teen) has still ptsd from everything he put her through.
Hurrah for the final investigates.
I absolutely hate when they say the killer had no reaction but what reaction would u want a killer to have but anything else they give u
I think the most shocking reaction to a killer getting caught I've ever seen is Luka Magnotta. He led everyone on a wild goose chase and only got caught when he let them find him. That's what I got from it anyway. And the act he put on for awhile at the police station until he got tired of it and let em know he was fucking with em that whole time.. His evil smile at the end of Don't F**k with Cats was so chilling. That dude was a psycho. It's been a few years since I watched it, so I apologize if I don't have my facts straight.
I got hit by sticks sneakers slippers belts, I didn't turn into a serial killer, stop making excuses for these murderers.
Indeed, ridiculous
Growing up without a father is NO DAMNED excuse to commit murder, as well as suffering from abuse. These are cop out excuses. I raised 5 children mostly without their fathers, including my nephew, and NONE OF THEM HAVE BECOME MURDERERS.
Dr. Yardley, you are a fascinating narrator, as well as Journalist Wanseland other presenters. Prison straightened me out considerably. I had very educated associates in the department of corrections. I even read most volumes of the Story of Civilization by Will Duran.
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Rod Chaytor and Earl Boen are very similar.
At first I thought Rod Chaytor was the actor in the second Terminator movie.
They are so alike
Dr. Yvon looks like Bill Hader doing John Malkovich
I love it too. Running out of stuff to listen to. Any suggestions 🤔.
There's no cure for psychopathy and so this idea they can be reformed is like saying you can reform a cannibal.
14 years for murder ? For cold blood and lying? Trying to frame other ppl and then admitting it but still lying ? That’s crazy
The bleeding hearts still can’t give up on their paradigm of life, that everybody is good and that circumstances make them do bad things.
Calm down, Dawn.
@Gubbinsmcbumbersnoot I actually agree with Dawn
Yes. And the notion of rehabilitation as more important than protecting society.
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it’s extremely successful in certain countries
As a bleeding heart, my views are quite a bit more nuanced but I see that you have no grace to grant. There's an ongoing debate over here at the bleeding hearts table about what can be attributed to environment versus nature. You'd have to be pretty dull to not realize that environment isn't always the answer. Blanket statements are fun though, aren't they?
1:09:49. That's a face of heavy drug use. Bro was probably about to boot her. Messing up her financial leeching of him.
1:14 holy fakeup, batman. Sheesh. Looks like 2 different people.
We're snozz rings a big thing back in the 90s?
She only got 14 years for stabbing a man over 40 times? And people talk about the American justice system. She should still be in prison. A life is gone and she's living a normal life.
Same with Carla Homolka in Canada with her lenient sentence!
Love this channel my wife thinks it's weird that I study killers. It's a interesting topic for me doesn't mean I'll become one lol
I too am fascinated by killers and cults and disturbing things. It's just curiosity, I think. Just like it was curiosity that led me to liveleaks and bestgore in the 90s when the internet was just a baby. I had never seen real gore before, and I wanted to see it! (Except for the Faces of Death movies and those turned out to be fake I think) And all of a sudden, the internet arrived and you could type a few letters and find almost anything you could think of. The moment I realized that was something I'll never forget. Until then, if it wasn't at the library, or someone you knew didn't have the knowledge of what you wanted to know, you just had to live with the fact that you would probably never get that information. I think the birth of the the internet shocked us ppl who grew up without it, it was a very powerful thing to have access to all of a sudden. I was about 20 when the internet came out, so I was alive a long time without the ability to gain knowledge and info so easily. My mom caught me looking at pics of dead bodies and crime scenes soon after I discovered I could and she was devastated. She thought I was going to end up a criminal. Lol
Tracy Andrews looked like Courtney Love.
😂 pretty accurate
I read the comments before seeing Tracy Andrews on this program. There is a picture of TE with a bruised eye making a weird face. I swear that could be Courtney Love.
Even Courtney looks better.
2 Tracy Andrews 3 126 mins Volker Ekhert 4 Wroknem Kroll 5 Ristevo
I wish European countries would quit using the term, "life sentence," until they mean it.
Their prisons, from what I've seen, are pretty much adult daycare centers where they can pretty much do as they please.
Tracy Andrews wanted to be a model 😂
Some of these so called Dr's should be brought up on charges and forfeit there license or something most criminals have a brain it's all choice always blaming how the criminal grew up bull they chose to do what they do
Except those who have psychosis. When in a psychotic state, a person truly believes their delusions. It's so sad because once medicated, they are many times horrified by what they did, or their minds are just so jumbled, they they can't grasp it. In those cases, I truly believe a person is ill and should have treatment. Until you experience severe mental illness yourself, or live/work closely with someone with psychosis, I don't think people truly understand it. So in that case, I think we need to not dismiss mental illness as a defense because in no way is it a choice. I do agree with you that in many other cases it is a choice made by those who clearly know what they're doing is wrong.
Unbelievable that a life is only worth about 10 to 15 years in prison. Unbelievable
For Kroll, his father wouldn't have had a choice, Hitler Youth was mandatory by then and Kroll would have had to join at age 10.
People like to conveniently forget that the German people were living under an oppressive dictatorship and had no choice but to do what they were told. My family lived in Berlin during the 30s and 40s and they suffered terribly at the hands of a government that they HATED.
ILOVE HOW THEY USE !
MASTER MANIPULATOR !
Instead if gullable
experts ,with big ego's!
funny how all these killers get released !
Good Morning DHS...Thanks NYPD
A life sentence means absolutely nothing anymore > . . .Guess what, the criminal knows this also . Good luck to our communties in the future . . . .Put them on an island and let them try to get along...Would make a cool reality show . . . .Include Judges also .... ...
I agree. What would they call that reality show?
That's how Australia got it's start.
In order to remain politically correct, I will leave that up to you...Thanks, later....@@peggypeggy4137
The part about the judges 😎
What's a Ford sierra??? Didn't know they made those😂😂
I can only write this...trust your senses...there was this guy i really disliked and he knew that...he saw it in my eyes but always kept clear because i have some reputation...turns out one night he stabbed his ex in public (!) in the heart. So, people u don t like or have an eery feeling about, always keep an extra eye on them...u might be just right...stay safe 👊🏽
All the people that supported and push the release of the first guy have nine life’s in their hands if they would’ve just thought of the poor 18 year old and her family
I know for sure that the personality that kills is always prone to repeat the behaviour.
Good morning my fellow crimers!
This case so sad
Unterweger is a prime example of why bleeding hearts should be discounted in prison reform
Hear, hear! The only bleeding hearts that should be involved here are the bleeding hearts of serial killers. Why we house, feed, and treat these things as if they are human is beyond me.
they are human. in fact you have more in common with them than bleeding hearts do.
if prisons did reform then bleeding hearts should be there to oppose the heartless sociopaths in our society at every turn.
@@willsmith4584I wouldn't want to live anywhere near you mate, you seem to have a serious problem , judging from all the criminal loving comments you're making.. Maybe you should volunteer your home as a shelter for all these people who are let out, maybe even babysit for you
I can not imagine what the victims families felt when he was going around acting like he was reformed
The fourth one, it sounds like the detectives were admiring him.
Tracie’s expression at the press
Conference just screams “Love me
I sleep with crime tv also!😊 my adult son asked if watching too much crime and murder make you depressed? To an extent, I believe, knowing how much evil is around us all the time.
I listen to crime tv while working because it requires a lot of time sitting in computers. I do get depresses some times and then I switch to standup comedy. Hope it helps
The more of this I watch, the more I love my dog!
Lee Harvey didn’t get Justice. This is sick
15 years 4 months, Austrian prison for murder,. I'm surprised he wasn't out in 5 years.