Loved every point sidharth is talking about. Frank talk with supporting data. Though it has given jitters to me yet it has made me realise the ground realities. Thanks for bringing this conversation.
People are not getting jobs in urban markets....So much sacking has happened in the last two years.....and he sees option trading as a reason for the urban consumption slowdown... what nonsense
Totally agree. Job market is collapsed. Direct taxes are approaching unsustainable arena. Unless madam ji does something out of box in next budget, things go haywire.
If nifty doesn't drop below 20k, his cash level will go to 90% and then his firm would get a license RBI to be recognized as a bank instead of a pms. He'll start giving loans to his investors.
@@sudheerk67 I'm actually surprised who are these investors allowing their fund manager to sit on so much liquidity while paying expense charges. A fund manager's job is to FIND opportunities in the market. If all he's doing is sitting on cash, i can let my grandma do that for me. She'll get a sweet 8.2% interest on that too. I think he had some cash with him, he felt the markets were overvalued so he didn't deploy, meanwhile nifty soared to new highs and now he has no other choice than to sit on the fat surplus and time it right. He cannot take a position even if he wanted to because he missed the train big time. And he says that he was the first one to call out overvaluation in market. That's straight up false. I have videos from HDFC's fm and he's been saying this for at least 1 year now. Same with Sankaran Naren and Rajiv thakkar. I like his zero bs approach though. He said what he was thinking and that's rare.
Who is this guy? He seems to be the brother of Benjamin Graham - expecting stocks at 6-8 PE's. I am not aware of the situation in India much, but I have heard of 2 important points in the Indian context. Firstly India is a growth market and companies here are routinely showing ROCE of 25% plus which you do not find anywhere in the world except in the States. Secondly the equity participation of Indians is very low and money is moving from traditional instruments like bonds and FDs to equity gradually and this is likely to keep the market inflated in the short to medium term.
I will give you a third view. There is so much inflation, so much money printing that this additional money is pumping up the equities. 😊 tread with caution.
Plus Our Central bank don’t allow Indians to invest abroad. Ofcourse there are ways and means to remit out of India with a big ceiling but that’s at a very high premium of exchange rate and added taxes. Hope Trump also impose reciprocal restrictions ON nations as per his election manifesto to make US GREAT AGAIN so that American who r into gambling gamble less
Totally agree with the fact that consumption was hit by the semi literate option traders. It is an epidemic in Mumbai and Delhi. And it might get worse if the regulator doesnt restrict such activities even further.
Wow!!! Urban consumption decreasing because of options trading. Brilliant insight. All zomato delivery guys should pool money and invest in Mr Bhaiya's funds. The urban consumption will go up.
He thinks all urban consumers are only working for Zomato and Uber. Guess he interacts only with these categories of the society on a daily basis. Talk about being in touch with the reality 😂
@@sudheerk67 look at market dear dont smile, i told boldly he should, now see rates 2 days back and after 1 month... rest u can either make fun or make money following........ ur choice, good luck......
Siddharth Vaiya came in Jan 2024 in the same show if I remember well and said they are out of equity market by end of 2023, if that would have been the case for investors the entire bull run from Jan till Sept 24 would have been missed, this is not the rt approach for making wealth in Equity. If someone says market will fall someday market will fall that doesnt mean that he/she can time the market. Right thing is to keep reasonable debt and then stay invested in equity, if market moves up one gains, if it goes down fair enough the dry powder kept in debt can be utilized for value picks
quite agree.... Trading is killing indian masses....U Can see many of the returns where people have good salaries and that income is completely washed off due to trading....
Agree with Siddhartha here. Valuations across the globe are far cheaper than in India. China/HK is dirt cheap & offers a far better risk reward than India.
Nobody trusts China..... everything is fake in China be it numbers, growth, projections...... nobody ever knows what happens behind their so said Great Wall......
very good insight on option trading, to a certain extent it explains NPA at the bottom level and cards etc. Believe better crop season this year would make up for this in the H2 of this year. But at the end of the day, you have a Bear mindset. BYD total sales 30 lakh cars and Maruti Total sales 22 lakh cars last year BYD valuation 8 lakh crore and Suzuki Valuation 3.5 Lakh crore. Is BYD cheap? With all EU nations putting extra taxes and a Chinese threat on this EV vehicles. Further this year sales are result of excess subsidy given by Chinese government. Sidharth Bhaiya, is my data points correct?
I think he has a performance overhang. He knows well that that previous performance can not be repeated. A good PMS managers should be good enough to give repeated top performance year after year. Even after downturn in equities some mid and small cap stocks performance is par excellence and he missed it. Indecisiveness is also bad.
He's much too short sighted. Not saying he's not competent. But how can someone be so ignorant to a truth so brightly lit up right before our eyes. There are so many undervalued great companies to choose from. The market is looking so attractive right now. Wonder what he's waiting for. Sitting on 80% cash! In this market, it's a crime!!
How has he survived in the stock market for so long, with such a negative overview of the Indian economy? If he is right then Nifty should be at 6000 to 10,000. That's what the bleeding means in his terms...
Nope. By bleeding he means quality stocks hitting lower circuits. He will definitely be in 80% Equity by the time Nifty reaches 20K, that is, if it actually reaches there!
Ridiculous ! This guy has been saying he's raising cash since the Nifty levels of 21000 and after that the market has risen 20% .. But the anchor still says his stand is vindicated? Broader markets have rallied 30% since this guy went bearish .. The fact is, as long as Modi is at the helm, the public sentiment will be sky high..so markets will rally.
Wardwizard k results kharaab aaye, but maal supply kr chuke woh.... Toh PE bahut ooper jaa chuka, agr results me agli baar profit show hua, toh PE apne aap niche aa jaayega?
Yeah even I was wondering about it. Most people see the world from their perspective alone. Since he works in capital markets he is seeing this problem from options trading alone
He seems to be making sense, clearing the mirages of hype all around, with "the new normal of market perennial rallies", "easy money from derivatives trading" and probably what is toxic/undeserved positivity. He is cautioning on potential 'maaya' of cyclicality and chance of peaking out for now. When we are inside it, we do not know it! Not sure why all the comments are thrashing him. Regarding correction, i think we may not have much of a steep fall from here, may be ~8% on nifty50. But a 6-8 month time correction seems very much probable.
NO sir its gambling only until you dont know shit about it. I was earning handsomely with weekly expiries and know many who started making substantial profits, which turned out not good in the eyes of regulators and our government and that is why they stopped it all of a sudden.
I respect Niraj irrespective of him leaving bloomberg and joining adani but bringing this stupid and egoistic person like your Numero uno boss “GA” for 24:54 an one on one interview is demotivating and confirming harsh reality of corporate life is sad
A complete nonsense he is talking, how come Ola and Uber drivers have come option traders ? As far as Small and Mid Caps, all are not in frothy regions. 😊
Blood bath kind of phrases must not be used. After all retail investors money is involved. You can't make money by others blood. Worst statement heard from anyone so far. Can't encourage such thoughts
BS reason about Urban Consumption decline. The decline is due to higher inflation which the government has failed to control. The USD-INR is at all time high hence RBI cannot have rate cuts right away. PS - Economy is not driven by Zomato/Uber guys trading 1-10 lots of nifty. The middle class is feeling the heat of the weak rupee (oil prices) and higher prices of common household items hence non essential consumption has taken a dip.
Listen from 24.59. He said last month, September..... if you listen a bit more, it is fairly clear that this interview was conducted in or around mid-october.
@@sudheerk67 - It looks so funny, a fund manager not able to say where will the support technically. Technically 22300 -500 is support. But, anything like NUKE or Trump will make some blunder statement may market will fall. Also, DOW JONES at top and ready to fall. like bank system in USA
The anchor is good and is a good example of professionalism. He let's the other person talk, makes them comfortable, ask reasonable questions.
Loved every point sidharth is talking about. Frank talk with supporting data. Though it has given jitters to me yet it has made me realise the ground realities. Thanks for bringing this conversation.
Never time a market. Now this guy will be running to put more money. Believe in Indian Economy.
Excellent ,realstic analysis with a straightforward approach
The news anchor is very good and professional, good job 👍
and of course the honest talk by Siddharth good job 👍
He is the brother of Sandeep Bhaiya from Aspirants.
People are not getting jobs in urban markets....So much sacking has happened in the last two years.....and he sees option trading as a reason for the urban consumption slowdown... what nonsense
Totally agree. Job market is collapsed. Direct taxes are approaching unsustainable arena. Unless madam ji does something out of box in next budget, things go haywire.
@sudheerk67 exactly people are doing option trading in hope of making some money and sustain themself
If nifty doesn't drop below 20k, his cash level will go to 90% and then his firm would get a license RBI to be recognized as a bank instead of a pms. He'll start giving loans to his investors.
This is called cross selling... 😂
Just changing his firm's name to Sid Bhaiya Financial Services will be the next logical step.
😂
@@sudheerk67 I'm actually surprised who are these investors allowing their fund manager to sit on so much liquidity while paying expense charges. A fund manager's job is to FIND opportunities in the market. If all he's doing is sitting on cash, i can let my grandma do that for me. She'll get a sweet 8.2% interest on that too. I think he had some cash with him, he felt the markets were overvalued so he didn't deploy, meanwhile nifty soared to new highs and now he has no other choice than to sit on the fat surplus and time it right. He cannot take a position even if he wanted to because he missed the train big time. And he says that he was the first one to call out overvaluation in market. That's straight up false. I have videos from HDFC's fm and he's been saying this for at least 1 year now. Same with Sankaran Naren and Rajiv thakkar. I like his zero bs approach though. He said what he was thinking and that's rare.
@@sudheerk67😂😂
Excellent Achor and led the experts feel comfortable to voice his frank opinion.
Who is this guy? He seems to be the brother of Benjamin Graham - expecting stocks at 6-8 PE's. I am not aware of the situation in India much, but I have heard of 2 important points in the Indian context. Firstly India is a growth market and companies here are routinely showing ROCE of 25% plus which you do not find anywhere in the world except in the States. Secondly the equity participation of Indians is very low and money is moving from traditional instruments like bonds and FDs to equity gradually and this is likely to keep the market inflated in the short to medium term.
I will give you a third view. There is so much inflation, so much money printing that this additional money is pumping up the equities. 😊 tread with caution.
Plus Our Central bank don’t allow Indians to invest abroad. Ofcourse there are ways and means to remit out of India with a big ceiling but that’s at a very high premium of exchange rate and added taxes. Hope Trump also impose reciprocal restrictions ON nations as per his election manifesto to make US GREAT AGAIN so that American who r into gambling gamble less
Percentage of cash is never a barometer of how successful a fund manager is…ship in the harbour is safe but that not what a ship is built for
Totally agree with the fact that consumption was hit by the semi literate option traders. It is an epidemic in Mumbai and Delhi. And it might get worse if the regulator doesnt restrict such activities even further.
Good candid conversation. Liked it.
Wow!!! Urban consumption decreasing because of options trading. Brilliant insight. All zomato delivery guys should pool money and invest in Mr Bhaiya's funds. The urban consumption will go up.
😂😂😂
He thinks all urban consumers are only working for Zomato and Uber. Guess he interacts only with these categories of the society on a daily basis. Talk about being in touch with the reality 😂
So people are trying to put their money to earn and not in spending…..may be… but not all are doing it….so stupid analogy…
Very Insightful conversation!!! Sidharth 🎉
He will keep sitting on cash. Markets will recover and he will keep waiting.
Sidharth bhaiya must invest today, these levels are great for many stocks to invest... And even nifty will give a good rally now..
Are you his advisor? 😂
@@sudheerk67 look at market dear dont smile, i told boldly he should, now see rates 2 days back and after 1 month... rest u can either make fun or make money following........ ur choice, good luck......
Who is investing for 10%, we are long term and 100%+, so we will wait for economy to rise….
Siddharth Vaiya came in Jan 2024 in the same show if I remember well and said they are out of equity market by end of 2023, if that would have been the case for investors the entire bull run from Jan till Sept 24 would have been missed, this is not the rt approach for making wealth in Equity. If someone says market will fall someday market will fall that doesnt mean that he/she can time the market. Right thing is to keep reasonable debt and then stay invested in equity, if market moves up one gains, if it goes down fair enough the dry powder kept in debt can be utilized for value picks
That smile only comes when you are on cash.. 😂
Actually appreciating what he's telling
Very well explained and true.
quite agree.... Trading is killing indian masses....U Can see many of the returns where people have good salaries and that income is completely washed off due to trading....
Even a dead clock is right twice a day.
Siddarth talks sense and numbers. There will be blood on street and before retailers realize, there will be chaos.
Agree with Siddhartha here. Valuations across the globe are far cheaper than in India. China/HK is dirt cheap & offers a far better risk reward than India.
Nobody trusts China..... everything is fake in China be it numbers, growth, projections...... nobody ever knows what happens behind their so said Great Wall......
Excellent insights and good thought, data points shared from the investor goodwill standpoint
Excellent
very good insight on option trading, to a certain extent it explains NPA at the bottom level and cards etc. Believe better crop season this year would make up for this in the H2 of this year. But at the end of the day, you have a Bear mindset.
BYD total sales 30 lakh cars and Maruti Total sales 22 lakh cars last year
BYD valuation 8 lakh crore and Suzuki Valuation 3.5 Lakh crore. Is BYD cheap? With all EU nations putting extra taxes and a Chinese threat on this EV vehicles. Further this year sales are result of excess subsidy given by Chinese government. Sidharth Bhaiya, is my data points correct?
Nice and pragmatic analysis 🎉
Excellent 👌
pls call him more often! great views grounded reality
Thunderous!
Spot on, only facts!!!!
And few wild assumptions..
This is very insightful about current valuation
But his assessment is completely wrong about "options trading" causing a slowdown in the economy ...
I think he has a performance overhang. He knows well that that previous performance can not be repeated. A good PMS managers should be good enough to give repeated top performance year after year. Even after downturn in equities some mid and small cap stocks performance is par excellence and he missed it. Indecisiveness is also bad.
AMCs, Stock Broking, Real Estate and Gold loan companies are showing very strong growth.
Great. With clarify
What's H1?
He's much too short sighted. Not saying he's not competent. But how can someone be so ignorant to a truth so brightly lit up right before our eyes. There are so many undervalued great companies to choose from. The market is looking so attractive right now. Wonder what he's waiting for. Sitting on 80% cash! In this market, it's a crime!!
He will keep waiting and miss out 😂
14:20 😊
He took a dig at Saurabh Mukherjea 😂
Of course, SM has been the whipping boy of Fund Managers across the country for over 3 years now.. 😂
On AP/ HDFC/dmart ?
@@redmipurana7145 it seems so
Its true about options, we are loosing money to foreign investors.
26k pe bolte to maantae, baaki sab bakchodi 😂😂
😂
Pls let us know how to subscribe to the monthly newsletter that Sidharth was talking about
why there is no curb for dream 11 or other apps involving satta in old verb saying?
He is fooling all of us, i don't think it's even possible for a PMS to sit 80% cash
But SME’s earnings are growing at much faster rate than ever.
How has he survived in the stock market for so long, with such a negative overview of the Indian economy? If he is right then Nifty should be at 6000 to 10,000. That's what the bleeding means in his terms...
Nope. By bleeding he means quality stocks hitting lower circuits. He will definitely be in 80% Equity by the time Nifty reaches 20K, that is, if it actually reaches there!
Ridiculous ! This guy has been saying he's raising cash since the Nifty levels of 21000 and after that the market has risen 20% ..
But the anchor still says his stand is vindicated? Broader markets have rallied 30% since this guy went bearish ..
The fact is, as long as Modi is at the helm, the public sentiment will be sky high..so markets will rally.
Very nice analysis.
Where was Siddhartha in the month of October? I have invested and continuing buying dip. Looks like i need to exit ?
True 😢
...but I am confused whether bhayya is speaking the truth as far his investment strategy 😮
Wardwizard k results kharaab aaye, but maal supply kr chuke woh.... Toh PE bahut ooper jaa chuka, agr results me agli baar profit show hua, toh PE apne aap niche aa jaayega?
Just Options trading causing such a Big slowdown ?? Isnt it over simplification ?
Like blaming stubble burning alone for the North India poolution.
Yeah even I was wondering about it. Most people see the world from their perspective alone. Since he works in capital markets he is seeing this problem from options trading alone
A better analogy is - Like blaming Diwali firecrackers alone for the North India polution.
He seems to be making sense, clearing the mirages of hype all around, with "the new normal of market perennial rallies", "easy money from derivatives trading" and probably what is toxic/undeserved positivity. He is cautioning on potential 'maaya' of cyclicality and chance of peaking out for now. When we are inside it, we do not know it! Not sure why all the comments are thrashing him. Regarding correction, i think we may not have much of a steep fall from here, may be ~8% on nifty50. But a 6-8 month time correction seems very much probable.
Is it some kind of engagement bait...correlating options trading and consumption....
Finally someone calls spade a spade
Date of the video?
2 days old.
NO sir its gambling only until you dont know shit about it.
I was earning handsomely with weekly expiries and know many who started making substantial profits, which turned out not good in the eyes of regulators and our government and that is why they stopped it all of a sudden.
It will all be hunky Dory until an unexpected event hits your boat out of nowhere. Good luck my friend 😂
@sudheerk67 it's been 3 years now :)
2009 and Lehman Crisis? Seriously
these chairs looks like shit...They are just hanging on with their buts 😂
😂😂😂
To keep them awake I guess
80 % cash holding is unrealistic
Missed the bus. Monday will be huge gap up and market is bottomed out. 24000 is new base for nifty now
I respect Niraj irrespective of him leaving bloomberg and joining adani but bringing this stupid and egoistic person like your Numero uno boss “GA” for 24:54 an one on one interview is demotivating and confirming harsh reality of corporate life is sad
By GA you mean Gautam Adani?
Complete fraud guy... Suddenly he will say he is 80℅ deployed
first day of bear market , hahahaha
So its not wrong economic policy of govt and high taxes impinging consuption rather options trading? wow what an idiot
He is Bear..Big time...
A complete nonsense he is talking, how come Ola and Uber drivers have come option traders ? As far as Small and Mid Caps, all are not in frothy regions. 😊
Blood bath kind of phrases must not be used. After all retail investors money is involved. You can't make money by others blood. Worst statement heard from anyone so far. Can't encourage such thoughts
Anyone sitting on 80% cash at any point of market cycle is... an idiot 😊
BS reason about Urban Consumption decline. The decline is due to higher inflation which the government has failed to control. The USD-INR is at all time high hence RBI cannot have rate cuts right away.
PS - Economy is not driven by Zomato/Uber guys trading 1-10 lots of nifty.
The middle class is feeling the heat of the weak rupee (oil prices) and higher prices of common household items hence non essential consumption has taken a dip.
Dhoopbaaj....kuch bhi
FII,PRO earning Lakhs of crores buying , Selling Some stocks worth thousands of crores... bloody Rascals
Wasted my 27 minutes. 😢 pretty negative person.
I am FII and am listening and will do opposite to what he is saying
😂😂
This is recorded one yar.
These videis should have time stamp..out of date content is a bad advice..unethical too
Click on report button. Such videos need to be reported. Select report and then click spam and misleading .
Nope. This week only
This was premiered just yesterday. Recorded 2 days back.
Listen from 24.59. He said last month, September..... if you listen a bit more, it is fairly clear that this interview was conducted in or around mid-october.
He is just trying to create panic along with this new channel. Trying to make people panic sell. He is a short seller. Liar.
don't agree with even a single point
You will agree to some points when things start hitting 'lower_circuit' 😂
But you need to create a new TH-cam ID then. 😢
@@sudheerk67 I don't respond to Rookies like you.
Why he not able to say 22300 may support
Or below 21000 will buy, just gimmick
He will buy.. but he won't tell you. And he is not here to give you stock tips. There you go..
@@sudheerk67 - It looks so funny, a fund manager not able to say where will the support technically. Technically 22300 -500 is support. But, anything like NUKE or Trump will make some blunder statement may market will fall. Also, DOW JONES at top and ready to fall. like bank system in USA
And Dream 11 is Okay ? Why ? Coz it sponsors Indian Team ? Means big Shots ? Politicians ? You have no balls to call out ?
History say when 80% in cash will take in mouth