Golden Tricorn works differently on Prismatic. It only requires you to match your Super to that Element of the weapon. Then, any Ability of any Element will proc GT x2. It is arguably better.
been using this combo w/ storm nades since these class items got released, idk if i missed it in the video but the jolt from your storm nade also seems to give energy back even after your grenade has disspeared, also instead of hellion ive swapped to the threadling after class ability aspect because of the fragment that gives grenade energy when you get a kill with darkness abilities/weapons. it genuinely gives you almost 90% uptime on your storm grenade.
@@andrew1250 it doubles up on the energy returned from being strand and from devour, you can totally just use helion as its neutral game is probably better but its nice to get random bursts of grenade energy back since the threadlings will find mobs on their own.
I was looking through arc primaries with demo. The best one I found with a good damage perk that isnt the short 4.5 second adrenaline junkie if non enhanced was golden tricorn (still bugged) on the Out of Bounds smg. Demo with golden tricorn with storm nades could be insane. Also looked through stasis and found the Unending Tempest can get demo + frenzy and a few other perks (I'm not a fan of precision frame smg in pve tbh) and the Something New from Solstice this year can get demo + frenzy or maybe you could build into headstone for giga explosions. Strand you have the obvious choice of The Call but I also found the raid smg to be insane. Breachlight, Rufus's Fury, maybe even the Guiding Sight. Even Better Devils has a combo or 2. Honestly Strand weapons are just stacked for demo options. Void has 3 options I liked with 2 being quite similar. Optative and Word of Crota can both get their own unique perk combos of your choosing and the 3rd is the Unforgiven SMG. (I LOVE THIS GUN. Too bad I hate the encounter you have to farm for it.)
I got a osmio and syntho one. I run lightning surge with devour. It's a lot of fun in lower level content. Grenades for days and doing a Shoryuken 3 times in a row never gets old
Managed to get verity/fotracer on Hunter and with gun powder gamble honestly god damn. 130,000 with a bundle of grenades which then gives 4x weapon damage with matching subclass and the strand melee is honestly absurd
I got a Heart of Inmost and Verity's bond been swapping between Threadling grenade and a Breachlight with Demo/Desperate Measures or Storm grenade with a crafted Insidious Demo/One for All and both hit really hard. The combination of Facet of Courage with Heart is awesome I just Phoenix dive for the HP/Hellion, throw out my stasis melee, and then storm grenade. Also noticed that Heart of Inmost works with Song of Flame so you just get even faster and stronger grenades and melee while in super its been the most fun I've had playing Warlock since Starfire was broken
Ive had this roll for a while. I use it with vortex grenade and the heal weaken and volatile aspects. I love it but osmiomancy / swarmers is better cause every threadling is treated as a grenade. Throw on threadling nade / the strand aspect and combine it with pheonix dive and its threadling insanity.
Does osmiomancy perk work with the prismatic grenade? Does verity perk work with the prismatic grenade? What element does it check for death throes? Void? Stasis? Both? Edit/update: it does not affect the damage of the prismatic grenade.
I’ve also been curious about this- I’ve noticed that I’ve earned stacks of Death Throes before using a void weapon while Prismatic, but I am unsure if it was actually increasing the damage of the grenade I was throwing. Haven’t done accurate testing on it
What I find with verity and osmiomancy is the fact that - I stack up kills for the grenade damage charge with verity and my weapon matching the element of my grenade. I throw my grenade, in my case I wanted to use arc but seeming as I see this issue I might have to switch, the moment it makes contacts and damages the enemies - It instantly kills the group of ads due to the amount of death throes I've been stacking. Then I get minimal grenade energy through osmiomancy and have to gain it back with devour. It doesn't really seem as efficient as it should be?
Don't sleep on season artifact void damage does increase damage to weekend enemy's throw that void it gets double damage buffs from vertys and artifact plus u get back almost instantly.
What are your thoughts on running the Dawn fragment (radiant on melee) when the artifact this season gives u radiant just for orb pickups? It feels kinda wasted imo
Because helion charges light energy and threadlike grenade charges dark energy so its more synergistic with prismatic. Only situation you would want to run threadling grenade and weavers all together would be if you were running swarmers with prismatic
how does veritys work with ascending and using your song of flame? do you need to use a void weapon to charge up prismatic nades or a solar weapon for song of flame?
If your rubbing vortex nade, since it clears adds faster aka is too strong for lower tier content, take out vertiys for synthos and put on lightning surge. Grenade Comes back super quick. Melee hits like a truck and a half... Boom.
One combo not here is Gunpower Gamble. Yes it works, yes its stupid. Its a great pairing with something like Grapple or Duskfield, since the damage on those isnt necessarily the most important thing, but Gunpower has way more up time, and you can take a Solar weapon
It's not cope, but keep in mind you already have devour to cover you with grenades which is the main thing for warlock. Is still good if you look to get every ability, like melees and helion aswell.
I prefer it vs osmio+verity cause there is no dependency of getting X amount of hits or missing your grenade. Plus you can spam more class ability and melee.
I tried regular verity brow with a demo weapon and was getting my arc grenade back in 2 or 3 kills yesterday. Not sure If it got a buff but I was chucking ×5 nades every 5 seconds.
Why use with coldsnap with this particular combo? Does the shatter damage scale with the verity buff? Because if not I would stick with just the osmio gloves for the extra grenade charge rather than a nonexistent benefit to the grenade itself because coldsnaps don’t deal very much direct damage
does verity add any noticeable damage to the coldsnap grenades though? if not its probably worth running normal osmio's rather than this class item combo
No its not all abilities. Its very weird, it only gives regen to arc abilities on prismatic. To get the most of it, you would have to run all Arc abilties.
It's part of the perk. The exotic class items mix and match various pre-existing exotics and make them more general purpose, but with the tradeoff of being slightly watered down from the original.
@@keeganmullarky5227 nice! I haven't managed to get a good verity roll for titan yet, and I don't have any way to get devour on titan atm. So it'll be a bit before I can go crazy with it.
man I get excited for your build videos, but every time it involves an exotic class item I just... sigh... don't know if there will ever be one without it now..
there really isnt a better combo for it though. you get more grenade energy back regardless, you proc devour most likely, and then on heavier/boss targets you'll be more likely to throw a couple of grenades. theres an undeniable synergy between something that refunds grenade energy and something that buffs grenade damage
@@RojoDawg31 then great, you have good across the board neutral game, but you arent speccing into the effect of verity in its maximum potency. you'll still get much higher grenade returns across the board with osmiomancy, even if you one shot most things, devour can cover the bit that is missed, and, once again, where verity is mainly going to get profit from, heavier enemies will still be more effective for grenade returns with osmiomancy.
I jave yhis roll, wasnt really impressed with it, although i didnt have the arm mods to bring it back faster., dont see this replacing my stasis turret and arc soul
@@thebhoy8561 i havent done damage testing so maybe. the trancendant grenade does seem to be its own thing so theres a good chance it doesnt. hat it does do for trancsendance is boost the grenade recharge by a lot so youre able to throw even more
Osmiomancy swarmers is great. Unlimited forever threadlings. Its might be best for warlock exotic combo combined with euphony. The ppl saying it sucks dont have it cuz if they did theyd know that every threadling is treated as a grenade. Including the ones from euphony, the strand aspect combined w pheonix dive AND the tangles. You have threadling nade up every 2-3 seconds. Ppl who dont have the class item combos they talk about shouldnt talk about them.
Osmio star eater looks wild for raids. Osmio gives fantastic neutral and ses gives a huge boost to nova on top of courage and the weaken void boost with vortex/artifact.
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WEEEEWW GEOMETRY
god tier comment
Why did the “ from a piece of dirt on your head” sound so personal
Because it still doesn't have an ornament besides being really good and used fairly often
Bungie : did we not release the entire kingsfall raid for the SOLE PURPOSE OF MAKING AN OUTFIT THAT MATCHES VERITYS BROW
@@darkrinshade4363 where's my lucent Hive ornament Bungie
Bro that shit made me lol
Its been in the game for 7 whole fucking years and fairly popular and not a single ornament
Inmost Light + Verity is super fun on Hunter. You get non-stop ability spam and the Verity damage buff works on Gunpowder Gamble for huge nukes.
Golden Tricorn works differently on Prismatic. It only requires you to match your Super to that Element of the weapon. Then, any Ability of any Element will proc GT x2. It is arguably better.
been using this combo w/ storm nades since these class items got released, idk if i missed it in the video but the jolt from your storm nade also seems to give energy back even after your grenade has disspeared, also instead of hellion ive swapped to the threadling after class ability aspect because of the fragment that gives grenade energy when you get a kill with darkness abilities/weapons. it genuinely gives you almost 90% uptime on your storm grenade.
no use for that when u have devour getting u nade energy.
@@andrew1250 it doubles up on the energy returned from being strand and from devour, you can totally just use helion as its neutral game is probably better but its nice to get random bursts of grenade energy back since the threadlings will find mobs on their own.
I was looking through arc primaries with demo. The best one I found with a good damage perk that isnt the short 4.5 second adrenaline junkie if non enhanced was golden tricorn (still bugged) on the Out of Bounds smg. Demo with golden tricorn with storm nades could be insane.
Also looked through stasis and found the Unending Tempest can get demo + frenzy and a few other perks (I'm not a fan of precision frame smg in pve tbh) and the Something New from Solstice this year can get demo + frenzy or maybe you could build into headstone for giga explosions.
Strand you have the obvious choice of The Call but I also found the raid smg to be insane. Breachlight, Rufus's Fury, maybe even the Guiding Sight. Even Better Devils has a combo or 2. Honestly Strand weapons are just stacked for demo options.
Void has 3 options I liked with 2 being quite similar. Optative and Word of Crota can both get their own unique perk combos of your choosing and the 3rd is the Unforgiven SMG. (I LOVE THIS GUN. Too bad I hate the encounter you have to farm for it.)
chasing this role. Been driving in circles for fucking days
Dude I've been driving around in circles just to unlock the quest, I keep getting through 2 overthrows solo before falling asleep
@@darkrinshade4363LMAO its not that bad
Been grinding hunter and titan non stop probably over 60 runs at least finally did one run last night on my lock and got verity/osimancy
My first drop guys im so sorry
@@harryvickers973third
I thought I got shit again lmao
I got a osmio and syntho one. I run lightning surge with devour. It's a lot of fun in lower level content. Grenades for days and doing a Shoryuken 3 times in a row never gets old
Hahaha shoryuken I never thought of it like that. Clever 🤣🤣
I got this roll too , it's pretty decent.
For an arc pulse you can also use the crota pulse with voltshot demo
The problem with that is the jolt from voltshot doesn't count as a weapon kill, so you are losing consistency with death throes
It also has cursed thrall explosions, best pulse, I have it with keep away voltshot
Jolt won't count as a weapon kill though. My roll has demo sword logic. Not that great but sword logic is the only damage perk it gets.
This build goes crazy with tesselation
Managed to get verity/fotracer on Hunter and with gun powder gamble honestly god damn. 130,000 with a bundle of grenades which then gives 4x weapon damage with matching subclass and the strand melee is honestly absurd
I got a Heart of Inmost and Verity's bond been swapping between Threadling grenade and a Breachlight with Demo/Desperate Measures or Storm grenade with a crafted Insidious Demo/One for All and both hit really hard. The combination of Facet of Courage with Heart is awesome I just Phoenix dive for the HP/Hellion, throw out my stasis melee, and then storm grenade. Also noticed that Heart of Inmost works with Song of Flame so you just get even faster and stronger grenades and melee while in super its been the most fun I've had playing Warlock since Starfire was broken
finally a warlock prismatic build that dosent require me to upkeep 5 turrets lol
Ive had this roll for a while. I use it with vortex grenade and the heal weaken and volatile aspects. I love it but osmiomancy / swarmers is better cause every threadling is treated as a grenade. Throw on threadling nade / the strand aspect and combine it with pheonix dive and its threadling insanity.
that arc sidearm reminds me of the nailgun from cod lol
I got a roll with osmiomancy and Starfire and it’s literally instant grenade regen when in an empowering rift
Does osmiomancy perk work with the prismatic grenade? Does verity perk work with the prismatic grenade? What element does it check for death throes? Void? Stasis? Both?
Edit/update: it does not affect the damage of the prismatic grenade.
I’ve also been curious about this- I’ve noticed that I’ve earned stacks of Death Throes before using a void weapon while Prismatic, but I am unsure if it was actually increasing the damage of the grenade I was throwing. Haven’t done accurate testing on it
Verity does work with gunpowder gamble tho
@@gengarclefairy3475 oh that's nice
@@icytor1150 max stacks + radiant make it do over 2.3X damage
happy late fathers day mr roar
Oh wow I didn’t know he was a dad!
What I find with verity and osmiomancy is the fact that - I stack up kills for the grenade damage charge with verity and my weapon matching the element of my grenade.
I throw my grenade, in my case I wanted to use arc but seeming as I see this issue I might have to switch, the moment it makes contacts and damages the enemies - It instantly kills the group of ads due to the amount of death throes I've been stacking. Then I get minimal grenade energy through osmiomancy and have to gain it back with devour. It doesn't really seem as efficient as it should be?
Don't sleep on season artifact void damage does increase damage to weekend enemy's throw that void it gets double damage buffs from vertys and artifact plus u get back almost instantly.
Out of bounds arc smg with demo and tricorn is back out of my vault and feels great with this build!
shame we don't have fusion grenade or at least firebolt grenade for solar
If you decide on void grenade you can use buried bloodline for devour and use a different aspect
What are your thoughts on running the Dawn fragment (radiant on melee) when the artifact this season gives u radiant just for orb pickups? It feels kinda wasted imo
If you're using threadling grenade, why not switch out Hellion for Weaver's Call and have even more synergy?
Because helion charges light energy and threadlike grenade charges dark energy so its more synergistic with prismatic. Only situation you would want to run threadling grenade and weavers all together would be if you were running swarmers with prismatic
how does veritys work with ascending and using your song of flame? do you need to use a void weapon to charge up prismatic nades or a solar weapon for song of flame?
If your rubbing vortex nade, since it clears adds faster aka is too strong for lower tier content, take out vertiys for synthos and put on lightning surge. Grenade Comes back super quick. Melee hits like a truck and a half... Boom.
One combo not here is Gunpower Gamble. Yes it works, yes its stupid.
Its a great pairing with something like Grapple or Duskfield, since the damage on those isnt necessarily the most important thing, but Gunpower has way more up time, and you can take a Solar weapon
crazy how I was playing this build this weekend and now see an ehroar video perfecting it
yo they got my man in a sweat shop with all this content
Is filaments/starfire for me as osmiomancy doesn't work with bleak watcher.
Ehroar can you do some form of a review or thoughts on spirit of inmost light for warlock. I gotta know if it’s cope or not
It's not cope, but keep in mind you already have devour to cover you with grenades which is the main thing for warlock. Is still good if you look to get every ability, like melees and helion aswell.
I prefer it vs osmio+verity cause there is no dependency of getting X amount of hits or missing your grenade. Plus you can spam more class ability and melee.
Anything renewals please. I need to know how to build into and use frost armor.
Does verity’s work with the song of flame grenade?
I'm not sure about osmiomancy but I've done a bit of testing with Verity's brow and apparently the stasis turret is affected by Verity's brow
Im pretty shure Osmiomamcy is bugged on the class item as its not give granande energy on direct impact
I tried regular verity brow with a demo weapon and was getting my arc grenade back in 2 or 3 kills yesterday. Not sure If it got a buff but I was chucking ×5 nades every 5 seconds.
Why use with coldsnap with this particular combo? Does the shatter damage scale with the verity buff? Because if not I would stick with just the osmio gloves for the extra grenade charge rather than a nonexistent benefit to the grenade itself because coldsnaps don’t deal very much direct damage
I feel like this combo is mostly for the other gernades like storm and vortex
Do you have ogma pr. You can get demo and wellsping together.
Do you mean the Oghma PR6?
@@Michael-ee4uz lol yeah. Damn auto correct
I have an Inmost Light with Verity. Is that good?
does osmiomancy work with the stasis turret?
Does this combo work with bleak watcher?
does verity add any noticeable damage to the coldsnap grenades though? if not its probably worth running normal osmio's rather than this class item combo
That's why he mentioned part of the review being just for Osmio.
What's going on with golden tricorn?
How could any grenade be better than weaken vortex??
Does Stacy shots count as grenade hits?
Crown of tempests is very similar. Just gives massive cooldown reduction to all abilities and super.
No its not all abilities. Its very weird, it only gives regen to arc abilities on prismatic. To get the most of it, you would have to run all Arc abilties.
New to the game, is this the Osmiomancy Gloves? (struggling to find them) or is it just the Perk?
It's part of the perk. The exotic class items mix and match various pre-existing exotics and make them more general purpose, but with the tradeoff of being slightly watered down from the original.
@@SOFUBIS Thank you for taking the time to help! This game is so much as a new player, even with all the yt guides i’m going through
which gloves are those ?¿?
Does it prod on stasis turret hits?
No, it's coded as a turret and not a grenade
Isnt the osmiomancy technically bugged to be working with every grenade?
Going to come back and watch later, but I wonder how verity would work with the new unbreakable aspect
Cracked, I love it!
@@keeganmullarky5227 nice! I haven't managed to get a good verity roll for titan yet, and I don't have any way to get devour on titan atm. So it'll be a bit before I can go crazy with it.
Finally have time to watch videos!
man I get excited for your build videos, but every time it involves an exotic class item I just... sigh...
don't know if there will ever be one without it now..
Saw this video then immediately got that same roll on the class item. Guess I know what build I gotta try out
Thought I was going insane hearing the PS5 in the background
On hunter, verity works with gunpowder gamble
Vortex is definitely the best offensive grenade with osmiomancy in Master + difficulty, but I agree that in "expert" max, it's kinda meh
Osiomancy+Verity seems counter productive imo. If you’re doing more damage that means less hits which means less grenade back
there really isnt a better combo for it though. you get more grenade energy back regardless, you proc devour most likely, and then on heavier/boss targets you'll be more likely to throw a couple of grenades. theres an undeniable synergy between something that refunds grenade energy and something that buffs grenade damage
@@Metophobia i mean hear me out inmost light and verity?
@@RojoDawg31 then great, you have good across the board neutral game, but you arent speccing into the effect of verity in its maximum potency. you'll still get much higher grenade returns across the board with osmiomancy, even if you one shot most things, devour can cover the bit that is missed, and, once again, where verity is mainly going to get profit from, heavier enemies will still be more effective for grenade returns with osmiomancy.
@@Metophobia hmmm i see ty for the insight
Golden tricorn is working fine… weapon just has to match your super in prismatic…
Got the osmi perc with vertys and I get void nades like old controvers holds. Shit it even better. Plus Seann mods make them more powerfull
I rolled a Inmost Light + Vertys on my titan, might give it a try
That’s my roll on my lock, it feels… strange.
Storm grenade+ this bond + riskrunner + the call
I was just happy enough to get the veritys and inmost light combo, all abilities are spamming
Never wear the scrotum helmet.......... And what shader is that on your sidearm there?
Pair this with Coldsnap and Agers. Warlocks becomes the Night King.
Warlocks after finding out they can finally use verity brow without destroying their drip
Oh shit I got this, I’m glad it’s good as I haven’t had a chance to try it out
I wish they would've let us just equip 2 exotics instead of the exotic class item thing.
Maybe keep it restricted to 1 in crucible
Anyone found a combo to replace Nez Sin?
Take a look into crown of tempest and Nezarec’s Sin on warlock prismatic
Osmio/Starfire has been a silly combo using vortex nades
Hey what about Titan! 🤣🤣🤣
We got shafted on prismatic :(
Just play strand
better off just using solar or strand
@@alphasyncz1051oh my god stop whining we have so many fun builds
@@jimby9723he’s joking dude
i mean, if u're using the coldsnap grenade, just use osmio.. the verity dmg is just useless for the coldsnap
I have this class item with verity except mine has inmost light … I can’t tell you how many nades I throw 😂 it’s stupid fun tbh
I jave yhis roll, wasnt really impressed with it, although i didnt have the arm mods to bring it back faster., dont see this replacing my stasis turret and arc soul
This is the role I'm chasing
Literally just got an osmio and verity exotic class item
Lucky.
literally same
Nice… I got Osmio and shock wave… rip I know.
But I did get Inmost light and star eater so that’s what I have that is nice.
you might be onto something there...
i got empowering rift gives devour, and nade energy on empowered weapon damage
Hmmm…The Rock/ Foreunner Nuke? Potential
Too bad I can’t get the class item every one I’ve played with is so lost can’t complete
lol i was literally only using verity's this whole time as a stopgap until the class item
I got a verity inmost light roll. Turns transcendent into a legit super with the number of grenades and snaps I’m doing
Veritys buff the tramcendant grenade as well?
@@thebhoy8561 i havent done damage testing so maybe. the trancendant grenade does seem to be its own thing so theres a good chance it doesnt. hat it does do for trancsendance is boost the grenade recharge by a lot so youre able to throw even more
A verity+swamerss combo would be sick
swarmers suck on the class item, it just makes tangles spawn 2 threadlings
swarmers is bad on class item
Swarmers done make your threadings unravel on class item I would just use weavers call, devour and normal swarmers if you wanna play threadings
Osmiomancy swarmers is great. Unlimited forever threadlings. Its might be best for warlock exotic combo combined with euphony. The ppl saying it sucks dont have it cuz if they did theyd know that every threadling is treated as a grenade. Including the ones from euphony, the strand aspect combined w pheonix dive AND the tangles. You have threadling nade up every 2-3 seconds. Ppl who dont have the class item combos they talk about shouldnt talk about them.
@@davidgabrieltaylor the 2 threadlings isnt worth half your class item
I like warlock but if I was a photographer I would picture spirit of caliban and spirit of the liar on hunter
Yes the void works way better in harder stuff.
We need a way to get this solo.
My question is why would you ever use a normal exotic over the exotic class item
Youve always said that veritys was the most underrated exotic but i could never get myself to use it cause it looks so bad 😂
But Verity is low-key my favourite looking helmet in the game
I got the Osmio and Starfire exotic item. I thought it was junk, nevermind LOL.
I like Filaments + Verity for the free Devour personally
Use the new raid bow with Voltshot for Storm Grenades
Osmio star eater looks wild for raids. Osmio gives fantastic neutral and ses gives a huge boost to nova on top of courage and the weaken void boost with vortex/artifact.
Been trying to farm this roll forever.
ashes to assets with coldsnap?
what.
Warlock supremacy 🤞🤞
I just got a osmiomancy Verity's bond drop.
I have inmost light and veritys. Love it
20 sec in, I really hope he's not about to test this shit out in a low ass light lost sector 😭