Artist can go way higher than C, definitely A Tier. Her birds Ignore collision with Objects unlike the other three Ranged Killers, so somewhat similar to a Nurse Blinking through a wall then hitting someone. Fun fact her base movement is Faster than Slinger or Huntress. She's 4.6, same as an average M1 Killer. The other two are 4.4. Trickster also used to be 4.4 until his recent changes. Because the birds go through objects they're a great cross-map pressure tool if in the right hands. At Close ranges her birds can directly Injure passed the swarming effect much like a Huntress Hatchet if you push the Survivor in front of a bird's flight path.
You make some good points, but I don't believe it elevates her to A tier. I placed her there because I don't find that her strengths outweigh her weaknesses in my matches. In the end she is reliant on map rng and deadzones. The ability's has a slow massive cooldown/activation, elevation issues, locker counter, and the ability slows you down. I might be convinced of B tier, but I disagree that she is A tier.
@@ArtemisGamingChannel Artist is one of my fav killers I have no idea what you are talking about. I’m a comp player and her regression on gens is absolutely incredible. The amount of time I have stalled on gens is mad. Additionally, she can be good for anti-loop if you have good aim with the birds. Sometimes you can spam the birds to every gen and destroy survivors.
@@zeninfinity6645 It's great that people are passionate about these killers. I'd love to grow my community and hear feedback about how I can improve as the Artist. I'm always open to learning something new. For now, this is where I think these killers belong. It's my opinion. Maybe next year, I'll place her in another spot.
Nurses blink cooldown is essentially the same as a pallet stun especially if you use the second shorter one. So idk what you mean by she doesn't have to worry about them. Unless you predict the drop Absolutely correct. You absolutely have to worry about pallets. And good survivors will just recognize that you're blinking through the pallets and they'll double back on the pallet
I thought I saw a Hen's video where the pallet didn't stun her out of her blink and he was confused. I was pallet stunned while blinking in the 2v8 around 5:17 after I made that video. It could be just a timing issue. Sorry for the confusion. th-cam.com/video/wJz5wgF6Cm0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-NKbqsvq_83r1Rp7&t=317
good list but saying bubba stronger then vacna chucky huntress is crazy since he does bad against large maps, good loopers, gen rushers, or even pre throwing pallets, vecna can counter loops, moves around the map faster, or huntress is really sick... isnt it ? not mentioning pin head or pyramid head how bad there are at loops rather then conecting loops!?
This list is based on my own personal experience in the game (6,000hrs) and watching other content creators. For Bubba, I usually go for spirit fury/enduring for the quick downs. With the recent buff, he is even better. He can now start a chainsaw sweep very early and cover a large area. I just asked copilot. It is 31.74 meters in total if you time it perfectly for 3 chainsaw sweeps. My opinion would be different for prebuff Bubba. Especially when he first came out. He was so different back then. The chainsaw sweeps were so short.
imo artist is to low due to the fast she makes loops meaningless with 2 crow placements. Also onyro has the condemn as a fear factor. That should pump her up to the same tier as pig because both are very similair sadako just has more map pressure for stealth. you dont use ambush usually and sadako can do some funky things with invis to make it hard to tell what your gonna do. Artist to add more onto her. She isnt your usual range killer she meant for info making loops meaningless she can place 1 crow to make vaulting useless or make a entire side of a like shack or a wall useless. She forces hits thats why shes good.
I feel like the Pig is guaranteed pressure with the traps while good survivors can just disable tvs. I've also seen my teammates get fully condemned by Onryo for no reason. I do think you're right that they are similar. I use ambush all the time. It's great now. I might be convinced that Artist belongs in B tier, and I like the discussion so far about her strengths. I don't think she belongs in A tier because her strengths don't outweigh her weaknesses in my opinion.
@@ArtemisGamingChannel B is fine I think C is the ups and down evens out and D is its down where the negatives out ways positive. and B is A and S are just how much the positives outways the negatives is how I few dbd tier lists. When you grab a tape the onyro atleast knows and they gain passive condemn. Onyro has a high skill ceiling. If you keep track of when a tv shuts off and who has it you can pressure the person in chase by canceling them grabbing tape by tping. If there high enough condemn you can force them to become mori able by not knocking and spamming tp. Theres counterplay with body blocking. she suffers against swfs due to team play helps manage condemn and body blocking. I get what you mean by the guarnteed pressure with traps. Sadako can do the same thing is just takes a bit more skill with the tvs and managing tapes. but thats my opinion i do main her so a bit of bias but still
You're correct. I keep forgetting about that patch. He slows a little while throwing his daggers, so survivors can get some distance, but that's it. Only the Hag and Nurse have the slow movement speed now. Hope you still enjoyed the video!
@@ArtemisGamingChannel no worries lol, the video was very well made. I disagree with some of the placements like artist for example but that’s the beauty of tire lists. Keep grinding brother
@@SheLovesNiro Glad you enjoyed! I read a lot of comments disagreeing with me on the Artist. Perhaps I'll learn a new technique, and I'll place her higher next year.
He is a fun killer, but I think strength wise he is an average killer. I wouldn't underestimate Demos who've learned to curve around cars like a Wesker player. Then I can see him almost entering B tier.
That would be a challenge. I like the video suggestion. I'll consider it. Mainly I have to remember all the perks that I stopped using years ago like Beast of prey.
Both these killers got a huge buff recently. Bubba can now chainsaw sweep a lot further than he used to. The pig can start the match with bear trapped survivors slowing down the game while the Hag has to set up her traps. I don't deny that the Hag can be very strong around mid-game losing a lot of gen progress, so she is basically doing catch up. She is easily countered by Maps and a few other perks if she ever becomes popular again. Maps are the most underrated items in the game if you use it to reveal the killer's belongings.
I used to be a Billy main for many years. The speed is very impressive at the cost of maneuverability, and not every loop can be curved around. He is definitely strong. He'd be a lot stronger if crouch tech didn't exist. I don't blame you for wanting to put him in S tier. A part of me wants to place him there too.
@@ArtemisGamingChannel i mean check out ohtofu's tier list. he is the most mobile killer, has an insta down, has insane map pressure, insane chase time and can pressure totems insanely well. he is arguably better than nurse if put in the right hands
@@glad5055 I never heard anyone argue that Hillbilly is better than a Nurse. That's a first. He is definitely not better than Nurse. OhToFu and I have been playing this game since release. He probably loves Hillbilly as much as I do. I am happy where I placed him based on my own personal experience.
I don't think TH-camrs understand that they shouldn't be making their own personal tier list it should be a what should we play has your everyday player who can't buy every single killer we want to know who's you know going to be strong for us so we don't have to worry about putting $100 in this into a killer to get you know decent amount of kills with them. So its an immediate find another video when i see em say based on his experience. Thats fine but there are objectively bad killers and ones who are map dependent and ones who anyone can pick up and have good games with with out having to prestige them or have200 hours using them. Those killers would be S tier . But very few TH-camrs seem to understand your trying to appeal to Broadest group watching these rankings vids and like i said. Its your average player like me who is gonna maybe buy a few killers. DEFINITELY NOT ALL and wanna know ones that are objectively strong. Also your voice makes me sleepy lol so sorry but this video really has no point and most people clicking this thought itd be the type of list i described
I've been trying to improve my voice quality with audacity lately. It is a deeper voice, but I hope it doesn't put anyone else to sleep. This video is my personal opinion. If you want kill stats, Behavior releases it from time to time, so you don't have to watch any videos if you want to go by statistics alone. The reality is that any killer you buy is not a guarantee that you'll be successful as that killer. It takes hours of practice and losing before you get successful even as Blight or Nurse. My experience gets me kills; not necessary who I'm playing. Now the max potential from experience is different with each killer. I do understand your frustration when it comes to the amount of dlcs in the game, but DBD is not a pay to win game since the strongest killers are free to play.
I think Tru3talent said it best since the Twins has to switch between characters just to pick up survivors. Victor easily jumps on pallets and instantly dies. Singularity has very strong map control and is going to get even better soon. I wouldn't underestimate him. Demo has always been a balanced killer that is neither the strongest nor the weakest. His addons for teleporting are not that amazing anymore. His shred is the only thing going for him like curving around objects. The Artist in my opinion is the weakest out of all the range killer. The only one that is countered by jumping in a locker. You also have to hit the crows twice and you can't adjust for elevation unlike the other range killers.
@@ArtemisGamingChannelI would agree with your points for the Artist, however, the fact that the artist has the farthest range out of all the ranged killers, as well as the crows staying around an area can allow for some very good map-wide pressure and gen control in relation to say the Huntress or Deathslinger needing line of sight.
@@phirephenix1347 That's true and it works really well with Dead Man's Switch. It really is map dependent. Let's say you want to check on a gen across the map, but it is on the second story building on Haddonfield. I do like that she can shoot through walls and on maps like Lery's it's amazing. When it comes to downing survivors, I feel like she falls flat. You make some great points and I 100% agree with you when it comes to gen pressure. I still think she is the weakest of the range killers. I did make an Artist video recently that shows some of the struggles with the killer. I still like playing her. th-cam.com/video/SGDJ2zPrUJU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=H0qhr2lEnnYsjX_D
@@ArtemisGamingChannel artist main here, i feel like you cant even call her a "ranged killer", sure she has incredible range but shes a 115 killer. artist can hard to play and is very unpopular, i feel most people dont understand her because of that. you state she falls flat when trying to down survivors, but in most loops you are either forced to leave or you get hit. being a 115 lets her catch up to survivors faster. you are only slowed when you shoot the birds, you dont always need to shoot them if you anticipate them leaving the loop. good artists will even line up the birds for the loop your at and the next one. commonly called xray shots. no other killer can line up a slingshot tech downing a survivor 200 ft away on a gen while zoning and catching up to a survivor im in chase with. artist is more similar to plague rather then huntress or deathslinger, not the conventional "ranged killer".
The skull merchant's ability to control areas and frustrate survivors makes her feel oppressive. I don't get that feeling when facing against the xenomorph. Sure, the killer has great map pressure, and the tail attack is great at loops, but the flamethrower does make the killer just an m1 killer. The skull merchant is not the most skilled player in DBD, but her abilities automatically do a lot of different things that are not easily countered. If she forces you to a bad loop with a drone she can apply damage passively, hinder, and tracking while the survivor is oblivious. I'd love to hear your opinion about the xenomorph. I don't deny that the killer is strong.
Artist can go way higher than C, definitely A Tier. Her birds Ignore collision with Objects unlike the other three Ranged Killers, so somewhat similar to a Nurse Blinking through a wall then hitting someone. Fun fact her base movement is Faster than Slinger or Huntress. She's 4.6, same as an average M1 Killer.
The other two are 4.4. Trickster also used to be 4.4 until his recent changes. Because the birds go through objects they're a great cross-map pressure tool if in the right hands. At Close ranges her birds can directly Injure passed the swarming effect much like a Huntress Hatchet if you push the Survivor in front of a bird's flight path.
You make some good points, but I don't believe it elevates her to A tier. I placed her there because I don't find that her strengths outweigh her weaknesses in my matches. In the end she is reliant on map rng and deadzones. The ability's has a slow massive cooldown/activation, elevation issues, locker counter, and the ability slows you down. I might be convinced of B tier, but I disagree that she is A tier.
@@ArtemisGamingChannel Artist is one of my fav killers I have no idea what you are talking about. I’m a comp player and her regression on gens is absolutely incredible. The amount of time I have stalled on gens is mad. Additionally, she can be good for anti-loop if you have good aim with the birds. Sometimes you can spam the birds to every gen and destroy survivors.
@@zeninfinity6645 It's great that people are passionate about these killers. I'd love to grow my community and hear feedback about how I can improve as the Artist. I'm always open to learning something new. For now, this is where I think these killers belong. It's my opinion. Maybe next year, I'll place her in another spot.
I think artist is insanely low, but I main pinhead and hux so it’s nice to see someone else understand how strong they are.
I know beyond any doubt that Pinhead is very strong at least until CoconutRTS gets him nerfed. 😂The new changes to Singularity are going to be nice.
Nurses blink cooldown is essentially the same as a pallet stun especially if you use the second shorter one. So idk what you mean by she doesn't have to worry about them. Unless you predict the drop Absolutely correct. You absolutely have to worry about pallets. And good survivors will just recognize that you're blinking through the pallets and they'll double back on the pallet
I thought I saw a Hen's video where the pallet didn't stun her out of her blink and he was confused. I was pallet stunned while blinking in the 2v8 around 5:17 after I made that video. It could be just a timing issue. Sorry for the confusion. th-cam.com/video/wJz5wgF6Cm0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-NKbqsvq_83r1Rp7&t=317
good list but saying bubba stronger then vacna chucky huntress is crazy since he does bad against large maps, good loopers, gen rushers, or even pre throwing pallets, vecna can counter loops, moves around the map faster, or huntress is really sick... isnt it ? not mentioning pin head or pyramid head how bad there are at loops rather then conecting loops!?
This list is based on my own personal experience in the game (6,000hrs) and watching other content creators. For Bubba, I usually go for spirit fury/enduring for the quick downs. With the recent buff, he is even better. He can now start a chainsaw sweep very early and cover a large area. I just asked copilot. It is 31.74 meters in total if you time it perfectly for 3 chainsaw sweeps. My opinion would be different for prebuff Bubba. Especially when he first came out. He was so different back then. The chainsaw sweeps were so short.
Bro, this tierlist is fire, continue like this!
Thanks!
imo artist is to low due to the fast she makes loops meaningless with 2 crow placements. Also onyro has the condemn as a fear factor. That should pump her up to the same tier as pig because both are very similair sadako just has more map pressure for stealth. you dont use ambush usually and sadako can do some funky things with invis to make it hard to tell what your gonna do. Artist to add more onto her. She isnt your usual range killer she meant for info making loops meaningless she can place 1 crow to make vaulting useless or make a entire side of a like shack or a wall useless. She forces hits thats why shes good.
I feel like the Pig is guaranteed pressure with the traps while good survivors can just disable tvs. I've also seen my teammates get fully condemned by Onryo for no reason. I do think you're right that they are similar. I use ambush all the time. It's great now. I might be convinced that Artist belongs in B tier, and I like the discussion so far about her strengths. I don't think she belongs in A tier because her strengths don't outweigh her weaknesses in my opinion.
@@ArtemisGamingChannel B is fine I think C is the ups and down evens out and D is its down where the negatives out ways positive. and B is A and S are just how much the positives outways the negatives is how I few dbd tier lists. When you grab a tape the onyro atleast knows and they gain passive condemn. Onyro has a high skill ceiling. If you keep track of when a tv shuts off and who has it you can pressure the person in chase by canceling them grabbing tape by tping. If there high enough condemn you can force them to become mori able by not knocking and spamming tp. Theres counterplay with body blocking. she suffers against swfs due to team play helps manage condemn and body blocking. I get what you mean by the guarnteed pressure with traps. Sadako can do the same thing is just takes a bit more skill with the tvs and managing tapes. but thats my opinion i do main her so a bit of bias but still
Vecna is so hard to rank because a lot of his power and his counterplay is RNG dependent.
And he's new. I had a hardest time with him to be honest.
Correction as a trickster main, he’s not slow as other ranged killers he moves at 115% not 110%
You're correct. I keep forgetting about that patch. He slows a little while throwing his daggers, so survivors can get some distance, but that's it. Only the Hag and Nurse have the slow movement speed now. Hope you still enjoyed the video!
@@ArtemisGamingChannel no worries lol, the video was very well made. I disagree with some of the placements like artist for example but that’s the beauty of tire lists. Keep grinding brother
@@SheLovesNiro Glad you enjoyed! I read a lot of comments disagreeing with me on the Artist. Perhaps I'll learn a new technique, and I'll place her higher next year.
i would think of demo going to A bcs of the fun and stuff you can have wit it but from the skill i would say B
He is a fun killer, but I think strength wise he is an average killer. I wouldn't underestimate Demos who've learned to curve around cars like a Wesker player. Then I can see him almost entering B tier.
Vecna is B not A but otherwise fairly accurate.
Glad you found it fairly accurate! I'm in the ballpark.
Can you do a tier list on killers based on perks?
That would be a challenge. I like the video suggestion. I'll consider it. Mainly I have to remember all the perks that I stopped using years ago like Beast of prey.
Solid tierlist!
Thanks!
Bubba A tier is crazy, Pig better then hag 😂😂
Both these killers got a huge buff recently. Bubba can now chainsaw sweep a lot further than he used to. The pig can start the match with bear trapped survivors slowing down the game while the Hag has to set up her traps. I don't deny that the Hag can be very strong around mid-game losing a lot of gen progress, so she is basically doing catch up. She is easily countered by Maps and a few other perks if she ever becomes popular again. Maps are the most underrated items in the game if you use it to reveal the killer's belongings.
I think billy should be #2. Or at LEAST #3
I used to be a Billy main for many years. The speed is very impressive at the cost of maneuverability, and not every loop can be curved around. He is definitely strong. He'd be a lot stronger if crouch tech didn't exist. I don't blame you for wanting to put him in S tier. A part of me wants to place him there too.
@@ArtemisGamingChannel i mean check out ohtofu's tier list. he is the most mobile killer, has an insta down, has insane map pressure, insane chase time and can pressure totems insanely well. he is arguably better than nurse if put in the right hands
@@glad5055 I never heard anyone argue that Hillbilly is better than a Nurse. That's a first. He is definitely not better than Nurse. OhToFu and I have been playing this game since release. He probably loves Hillbilly as much as I do. I am happy where I placed him based on my own personal experience.
@@glad5055bro pls stfu nurse literally ignores everything billy get countered by pallets windows crouching and more stuff
Also extremely map dependant 😂😂
I don't think TH-camrs understand that they shouldn't be making their own personal tier list it should be a what should we play has your everyday player who can't buy every single killer we want to know who's you know going to be strong for us so we don't have to worry about putting $100 in this into a killer to get you know decent amount of kills with them. So its an immediate find another video when i see em say based on his experience. Thats fine but there are objectively bad killers and ones who are map dependent and ones who anyone can pick up and have good games with with out having to prestige them or have200 hours using them. Those killers would be S tier . But very few TH-camrs seem to understand your trying to appeal to Broadest group watching these rankings vids and like i said. Its your average player like me who is gonna maybe buy a few killers. DEFINITELY NOT ALL and wanna know ones that are objectively strong.
Also your voice makes me sleepy lol so sorry but this video really has no point and most people clicking this thought itd be the type of list i described
I've been trying to improve my voice quality with audacity lately. It is a deeper voice, but I hope it doesn't put anyone else to sleep. This video is my personal opinion. If you want kill stats, Behavior releases it from time to time, so you don't have to watch any videos if you want to go by statistics alone. The reality is that any killer you buy is not a guarantee that you'll be successful as that killer. It takes hours of practice and losing before you get successful even as Blight or Nurse. My experience gets me kills; not necessary who I'm playing. Now the max potential from experience is different with each killer. I do understand your frustration when it comes to the amount of dlcs in the game, but DBD is not a pay to win game since the strongest killers are free to play.
bro wtf with artist and demo on c also twins worse than singu not very good my friend
I think Tru3talent said it best since the Twins has to switch between characters just to pick up survivors. Victor easily jumps on pallets and instantly dies. Singularity has very strong map control and is going to get even better soon. I wouldn't underestimate him. Demo has always been a balanced killer that is neither the strongest nor the weakest. His addons for teleporting are not that amazing anymore. His shred is the only thing going for him like curving around objects. The Artist in my opinion is the weakest out of all the range killer. The only one that is countered by jumping in a locker. You also have to hit the crows twice and you can't adjust for elevation unlike the other range killers.
@@ArtemisGamingChannelI would agree with your points for the Artist, however, the fact that the artist has the farthest range out of all the ranged killers, as well as the crows staying around an area can allow for some very good map-wide pressure and gen control in relation to say the Huntress or Deathslinger needing line of sight.
@@phirephenix1347 That's true and it works really well with Dead Man's Switch. It really is map dependent. Let's say you want to check on a gen across the map, but it is on the second story building on Haddonfield. I do like that she can shoot through walls and on maps like Lery's it's amazing. When it comes to downing survivors, I feel like she falls flat. You make some great points and I 100% agree with you when it comes to gen pressure. I still think she is the weakest of the range killers. I did make an Artist video recently that shows some of the struggles with the killer. I still like playing her. th-cam.com/video/SGDJ2zPrUJU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=H0qhr2lEnnYsjX_D
@@ArtemisGamingChannel I’ll check it out. You make some good points with map dependency.
@@ArtemisGamingChannel artist main here, i feel like you cant even call her a "ranged killer", sure she has incredible range but shes a 115 killer. artist can hard to play and is very unpopular, i feel most people dont understand her because of that. you state she falls flat when trying to down survivors, but in most loops you are either forced to leave or you get hit. being a 115 lets her catch up to survivors faster. you are only slowed when you shoot the birds, you dont always need to shoot them if you anticipate them leaving the loop. good artists will even line up the birds for the loop your at and the next one. commonly called xray shots. no other killer can line up a slingshot tech downing a survivor 200 ft away on a gen while zoning and catching up to a survivor im in chase with. artist is more similar to plague rather then huntress or deathslinger, not the conventional "ranged killer".
Skull Merchant above Xenomorph is nonsensical
The skull merchant's ability to control areas and frustrate survivors makes her feel oppressive. I don't get that feeling when facing against the xenomorph. Sure, the killer has great map pressure, and the tail attack is great at loops, but the flamethrower does make the killer just an m1 killer. The skull merchant is not the most skilled player in DBD, but her abilities automatically do a lot of different things that are not easily countered. If she forces you to a bad loop with a drone she can apply damage passively, hinder, and tracking while the survivor is oblivious. I'd love to hear your opinion about the xenomorph. I don't deny that the killer is strong.
Don’t say “let’s get right into it” after making me wait a minute for you to actually start
I’ll make sure to get to the content quicker in the future. Thanks for the feedback!
UM
UUM
UUUUAM
AAAAUMM
🤔🤔🤔