"The Issues Not Talked About: White Privilege"
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- This is a short segment from SOC 119, an introductory class on race and culture that is taught by Dr. Sam Richards at Penn State University. Today's video comes from the fifth class of the Spring 2023 semester. The live stream took place on Tuesday, January 24, 2023. The full lecture live stream is available here: • 23SP - Class #4: When ...
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00:00 Who has white privilege?
03:56 When is white privilege in operation?
05:40 "I've never been pulled over before..."
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He is challenging them to think for themselves, and they are failing or refusing because they don't want to go against the status quo.
I'm much older and there are some things you can't say out loud because, unfortunately, it can get you. We need that intellectual freedom but it takes courage for a reason.
ya its called logic vs acting on ones emotions... because that ethnic population is larger dude...
I long for a society where people are judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin or any other immutable characteristics. These kids are learning that, no matter how pure the motivations, once you start judging people based on their skin color, etc., in identity groups, you can't stop. It's like a snowball that gets bigger and bigger and bigger. Giving favorable treatment to one identity group is done only at the expense of another. This creates a perpetual cycle of victimhood with shifting class structure and, ultimately, societal failure. God bless Martin Luther King Jr. He had it right. Love all people. We are all one human race and all equal.
"The best way to stop discrimination based on race is to stop discriminating based on race" - Someone smart
You can start by asking this to the dominant society!
@clotshot9459 You cannot socialize a bee to live with and think like other bees. Although there is genetic and phenotypical variation in humans that affects their mental processes, those are *so* much less powerful and influential than culture that they're almost always only relevant when comparing specific subsections of outlier groups. Sure, top tier athletes might be most likely to come from Africa, or top tier chess players from norther Europe, but if you raise a normal person in the right environment, they can become a productive member of society regardless of their genetic background.
The world corrects itself. Life is the best teacher no one can hide from life. Wait until university is over.
@@mylesleggette7520 Genetics corrects an ideology based culture. Normal human genetic behaviour is to help others when in need. Separating people and judging them based on race is an ideology (most of the universities now are judging people purely based on race). You can tell me that a handful of dirt tastes better than a hamburger because of your ideology but my genetics will tell me you're wrong.
“Caleb, dog, you’ve had 400 years to get your shit together”. Wow…just wow
except that isnt fair. Caleb didn’t ask to be poor. He didnt have anything to do with what his ancestors did. Caleb was born and raised poor. We can all admit Caleb doesnt have privilege because being poor takes away all privileges. This in itself destroys the idea privilege can be based on race. Caleb isnt in the class, he is working while these students, of all colors, are having a privilege of education. The issue is that when your idea is defeated, You are supposed to then fix or change your idea to keep searching for a more correct idea. Why this is not happening, is the problem.
@@sirmister9099 friendly fire, my man. Sarcasm is hard to convey in text format. I’m with you 100% on this.
@@vrcngtrx3856 👍
@@sirmister9099 So Caleb didn't need a degree to work in production at a popular online academic institution? Most students need a degree to work as a cameraman, which is what he was allowed.
That screams privilege to me.
What you don't realise is that even a poor white person would be permitted to thrive in this culture if they were poor. As a white person, you face no obstacles by the society.
They still have privilege, and it's not his fault he was raised poor; it was his parents, who were presumably born in the 1960s or 1970s (possibly) during the golden age for white people in the United States; they most certainly fumbled their personal bag, but also their generational bag.
All those kids are sitting there privileged. They've given nothing up. But they want others to give up their opportunities based solely on their skin colour. There's a word for that, but they don't see it.
One thing that isn’t talked about for some reason is that the majority of Americans are white. So if more scholarships go to white people, it may still go to a higher percentage of POC’s than white people, but because there are more white people it looks like a higher percentage of white people get the scholarships.
White people still receive scholarships at a higher rate even when you account for race percentages.
Bingo. I was saying the same thing ....
I love how this guy just roasts his students with facts
We go from racial discrimination to racial discrimination.
I wonder if black families “fumbling the bag” will be treated the same?
Exactly their single mother was on welfare and blames white.people for not getting generational wealth...
The problem is that the issue with scholarships is about money. So if you have a white kid and a black kid and their parents make the same amount of money, how would it be fair to give one money and not the other? No one has been oppressed for hundreds of years because no one lives that long. You don’t experience your parents lives or their parents lives. You only experience your life. So to give people stuff now because others who were like them, but not them, were oppressed doesn’t make sense.
History doesn’t exist in vacuum and does affect our present. This is why we teach history so it doesn’t repeat itself. Systemic racism exists because of past.
@@binaryvoid0101 You know that "Systemic Racism" against colored people does not exist nowdays in Western society, don't you? That it is just a made-up concept to justify blatantly anti-White policies. History is repeating itself: anti-White Racism is everyday practice now, without anyone batting an eyelid. The "beauty" of the concept of "Systemic Racism" is that you don't have to prove it exists, because its existence is treated as an axiom. In other words: it exists, because the Leftists say so, and that'd the end of the story.
@@binaryvoid0101 It is true that history has a massive impact on today, however in terms of success of individuals over time it does not seem to as much.
During WW2 America put Japanese people in internment camps and they lost their businesses. One or two generations later and Japanese Americans as a whole are doing fantastic. American Jews who descended from those in the Nazi camps are also doing amazing. So it seems maybe historical events matter less than other factors do.
So of what is causing these other groups to underperform?
With Black Americans, they used to outperform whites in many important statistics, including family, which is one of the largest indicators of future class. However, with the implementation of Lyndon B. Johnson's "Great Society" policies, such as welfare, as well as the civil rights movement, suddenly these Black statistics that were outperforming other groups plummeted.
Lyndon B. Johnson is quoted as saying "I'll have those ni**ers voting Democrat for the next 400 years". Given this quote, one might infer that these policies created and implemented by LBJ were not done with the best intentions in regards to African Americans.
So maybe there is "Systemic Racism" but you won't find it from slavery. You will find it from rich white liberals who make helping minorities their hobby project. (Or manipulating for votes)
@@binaryvoid0101
There's a difference between knowing the history to make a better future and trying to devoutly anchor ones self in it currently.
@@wanderingthemiddleground5283 We were born, raised, and are currently living in a systemically racist system so there is no need to “anchor oneself” as we are already in it. The solution is to be self-aware and to act on that self-awareness. We can’t solve current problems if we’re blind towards our own history.
@19.09 how is the black guy saying to Caleb ' i love you but it is what it is" regarded as funny when a white guy saying that to a black person would be calked oppresdion?
A short history lesson on black people in America will easily answer your question.
@Gillmsn Fillman do you subscribe to Critical race theory? Please answer my question if it is so simple to do it.
43 years ago when I was applying to go to college, this was basically the same situation. The only real difference was that it wasn’t really talked about; I was just told that this is affirmative action, and that is just how it is. Now there are college classes that talk about this, and it has this new name disqualifier: white privilege. So where I am trying to go with this is how long will white people have to accept a lower rung on the ladder until historical inequities have been balanced out and everyone can be treated the same?
I would say about 20 years. That is what a lawyer told me in Canada where race-based hiring in government funded institutions is legal under Section 15 subsection 2 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Race based hiring in the USA is illegal. Perhaps this is why there is a debate about white privilege in the USA but not in Canada. The irony is that I left Canada due to this and was hired by a black Nigerian and black Eritrean and returned to Africa for the next 11 years.
At 1:02. Where I live the majority of the homeless are white males over age 35. Many had successful careers and were well educated. Many fell to being homeless for a variety of reasons: addictions, mental health, lack of family support, divorce, ageism, job loss, or just bad decisions.
Interesting how when I go to Disneyland, restaurants, shopping malls, flights, pretty much anywhere that one needs privilege to be, it is mostly people from “marginalized” groups. We are a country of weak complainers where 90+% of people are privileged. For ANY identity group, if you graduate high school, stay out of jail and avoid kids out of wedlock, you will live better than 95% of the world (and yes there is research supporting this). This is all elitist academic speak, by a group of privileged people from all backgrounds. Interesting how people from so many backgrounds live way better in this “oppressive “ society than they would in a country “of color”.
100%
College student really don’t think for themselves they just take what their told as gospel.
You’re commenting this on a video of college students learning and challenging their beliefs? What do you expect them to do…
@@cinemarxism this professor seems to be trying to make them think on their own but they are all just regurgitating what they’ve heard from the media and probably their high school teachers. I would say this professor is not the norm most professor just tell the students what to believe.
If you went to college, you'd be able to spell "they're"
@@thetruthfromthefuture Some of us weren't privileged enough to go to college. Some went to the military instead to get money for college.
It's indoctrinating then, not educating.
The fact that college graduation has dropped from a long historical trend of a 90+% graduation rate. Around 2003, when the push to qualify people for college based on skin color, the graduation rate started to drop. The most recent number has hit a low of 52% graduation. And yes, the overwhelming majority of dropouts are black and brown people.
AZnd the highest achievers are asians! But Asians also value family structures and hard work. Many oif the white and Black elements of US society dont value these contributing components.
That’s a nonsense statement that you can’t possibly cite. There has NEVER been a 90% graduation rate in the university system.
The problem with chalking it all up to mental illness (mass shootings) is to assume that evil doesn’t exist, only mental illness. That is clearly not true. Look around you, and look at yourself. All humans do things they know is wrong. You speak harshly to someone you love and regret it later. You do something selfish and it makes things harder for someone else.
We all make choices every day. Some people embrace their will above all else and all others no matter what the cost to others. That’s evil.
When it comes to scholarship the person that does what is required and is the most competent should get the scholarship race shouldn’t even be taken into account only the most qualified person should get it no matter what, and they should automatically disqualify any person that has a family income of over 100,000 a year.
$100,000 WHY? I am a HS grad (1965), worked my a$$ off (sometimes 70 hours a week / away from home 6 to 8 weeks at a time) - wife also worked (HS grad) - our family income was over your arbitrary $100,000 a year.
"the person that does what is required and is the most competent should get the scholarship"
Daughter (1st in family to go to college) worked for her scholarships - because we worked over 80 a week she should have been punished to support those parents who made different (poor?) life choices?
@@lamoe4175He's on about scholarships, where people who can't afford to go to uni but have good enough grades get it paid for. He's not saying your daughter shouldn't be allowed to go, if she makes the cut then of course she should, but you should have to pay for it. Everyone else has to pay for it and there's only a certain amount of free scholarships given out so it'd be silly and unfair to give it to a rich kid. I don't know where you live, and I'm aware it's all relative, so 100,000 might not be a massive wage in your area but where I'm from, in the UK, £100,000 a year is big money. That's what some of our politicians are on per year. I think it's worse to punish a student for their parents different (poor?) decisions.
Interesting discussion, plus you could make a drinking game counting usage of the word like.
The first video of this class was even worse. The middle girl said like after every other word. It was painful to watch.
@@melodyvalentine8779I saw that video a few months ago and when I saw "like" girl on this video I thought oh jeez LIKE here LIKE we LIKE go LIKE with LIKE the LIKES 🙄
You'd die of alcohol poisoning before the first 15 minutes.
I'd like to see a discussion on the concept of "systemic oppression," does it exist today, if so how exactly does it manifest ????
Before 2019-2020, I wouldn't have hesitated to hire anyone, no matter their sexuality, race, etc. Nowadays, I might hesitate. I don't want to be sued or lose everything due to a slip of the tongue from another employee or me.
When he asked him if he was really comfortable with Diversity hires…
What would’ve been hilarious is if the professor than Said…
Because if you really want to prove you are, let us put a person of color in your place at this school.
This is your last day here🤣😂
The first slave group brought to North America was the IRISH, then Black, then Asian (mostly Chinese).
Western countries abolished slavery around 150 years ago while China did in 1911 but it took around after World War II to completely abolish slavery.
Meanwhile in Africa, slavery still exist in some countries to this date and remember just like with China, the slaves brought to US were captured by the people in theirs own countries.
Not to mention lots of White People in US came to US after the Civil Wars, just like many Black People as Immigration, so they have nothing to do with slavery or beings a slave.
Glad he is a teacher.
PSU is great for this channel.
The part about opportunity in rural areas most likely your available work is as a farm hand, it probably doesn’t pay very much. Then there is a group of people in Michigan that found much less opportunity after the auto workers declined. People say bootstraps and sometimes there aren’t any boots.
This idea that anyone from Europe gets to the same advantages by being labeled white in America is ridiculous. Southern and Eastern Europeans only recently became white and still face discrimination in accessing institutions and opportunities. This notion that a white immigrant from Poland has some sort of privilege simply by virtue of being labeled white without any other consideration is absurd. Poor Eastern European immigrants are perplexed by scholarship that their children can’t apply for because of their race. Why are there no scholarships to address the injustices suffered by various European people who have also been discriminated against. In America we think of White as something homogeneous and assume that being white makes you immune from oppression and discrimination.
What? Europeans have had access to the same privileges since the late 19th century to very early twentieth century. Their are no European specific because they are allowed to get white scholarships and white people make up the overwhelming majority of scholarships in the country. What on earth are you talking about?!
@@gillmsnfillman1691
One Europeans is not one group either in Europe or in America. In fact Catholics, Jews, Eastern Europeans, the Irish and many others were not considered white until the last 50 years and many still encounter discrimination in housing, the workplace and in education. These are things we teach to freshman students in the social sciences. Secondly until recently the white population as we define it today was 90% of the entire country. When MLK was fighting for Civil Rights 9 out of 10 Americans were of European ancestry yet you don’t understand why most scholarships would go to the largest demographic in the country? Additionally scholarships are merit based and not all students demonstrate the same level of educational achievement that qualifies them for a scholarship. Jewish Americans have received a disproportionate % of these scholarships. Does this mean that a system dominated by people who are not Jewish are giving preference to Jewish students? No it means that certain groups excel while others do not. This is far more complicated than simply being white , black , Asian or Hispanic. Asians not whites make up the largest percentage of students at our elite universities relative to their population. Is there some plot to give Asians an advantage in American universities?
Lastly there are free grammar apps available online.
Im white and i dont have white privilege. I grew up poor and had to bust my butt for everything that i paid for. Cereal for dinners and red and purple flavors for kewl-aid.
This is dated info as a wall st recruiter i can tell you these firms pay more for minority candidates
You have to take in consideration that this is a 100 class curriculum once they start talking 200 and 300 classes they will start thinking differently.
"White Privilege" is a term constructed for a specific purpose that is deliberately misleading. This is the same as "Black Lives Matter." No one can argue that black lives DO matter, but that is not why that name was constructed. If black lives mattered to that organization, they would be out in front pf Planned Parenthood every day, protesting the loss of 40 million black lives."Privilege" has meaning, in that it suggests a group of attributes are conferred or rewarded to the receiver based on some aspect, in this case, being white. The idea is to connect white people with being given something unfairly, which leads the hearer to want to correct the unfairness. This is mad social scientist deviousness. It helps to avoid the reality of using your talents, working hard, achieving, and passing wealth onto your offspring so that they have a better platform from which to compete for the scare resources of life. Saying that the results of all that work are a "privilege" uses emotion to change the perceived reality of effort to one of unfairness, and that is very attractive to stupid people.
This is so accurate and well put
Very interesting and terrifying at the same time. I wish we could actually pinpoint who/where that term "white privilege" came from.
@@Sillysavage85 it came from liberal academics.
He said tuff luck for the kid behind the camera that his family that came before him didn’t make the most of their situation and put him in a better situation. He needs to suck it up and do the best you can. On that same line of thinking you could say it’s tuff luck the family that came before you were in a bad situation and you need to suck it up and make it the best you can.
Wouldn't it also be their grandparents, grandparents, grandparents fault that they got caught and shipped away on a ship? It's kind of a slippery slope if you want to start blaming the grandparents
My white grandmother went to work at 13 full time at a brewery. Also the majority of white Americans come from families that entered the US after 1880 and before 1920. Not 400 years dude maybe 100 to 120 years.
Kids needs to be taught this.
Everyone is a hero until reality comes knocking at the door.
Kaleb doesn't get to blame his failures in his race. Not sure that is a privilege.
Diversity quotas are not new. check your facts . To use the term privilege for a white homeless person is ridiculous.
In terms of youtube promoting and most social media algorithms there is poc privelege and gender et al privelege.
His breakdown of the actual stats and the responses to the realities are interesting. They’re actually in a different video.
In a given year a cop was 100 times as likely to be killed at work when compared to the average unarmed black person being killed by a cop.
And the average roofer was three and a half times as likely to be killed on the job compared to a cop.
So, we need to start an every roofers life matters movement
That roofer stat is wrong btw
@@davidmaltais2912 That well may be. But on the list of the most dangerous jobs it’s well above police work. As are many others.
@@stanweaver6116 I find that hard to believe I think you are looking at total deaths there's far far far more roofers than there are police officers. I also work two very dangerous jobs iron worker and millwright. Deaths are not to bad but loss of members is extremely high and real accidents almost always result in death
@@davidmaltais2912 I work in the most dangerous job , namely logging with roofers being #3 and steelworkers being#4. Next time do your own look-up. It just saves time. The rate of fatalities in my work is132 per 100,000
The rate in roofers is 42 per 100,000
The rate in police is 14per100,000
So my job is almost 10 times as liable to kill me as opposed to a cops job and about 4 times as likely compared to a steelworker.
Interesting @4.16 when it is benefiting a black person it is calked a" the system set up to help" so she is admitting it is 1 systematic and 2 racist in favour of black or brown people. But if in the absence of a system to select white people who hapoen to have better qualifications than the lesser qualified "people we want to help" she will csll their selection 'discrimination' and 'systematic racism' . How come she changes it to a 'help' when it discriminates against whites but it is just simply 'discrimination' if whites who happen to be better experienced or qualified are selected? This applies also to gender. If you have 10,000 jobs for engineers and of 100,000 applicants of only 5,000 of those are female....because only 1 on 20 qualified engineers are female why should sll 5000 females get jobs and not one of 85,000 males be given a job jyst because you want gender balance and not better engineers?
careful now you are verging on needing a visit to room 101 to get that obviously biased attitude for reason against agenda fixed.
when it benefits her, the system works fine. when not, its racist
Because it is not about justice, but the justification of anti-White policies.
@sir mister yes just like 'I believe in freedom of speech...as long as the speaker agrees with my opinion. If the speaker does not agree with my opinion, then that speaker is a nazi, racist, etc.'
I wish people would stop using "like" so much. I tried to make a drinking game from that and i didnt last very long lol
All Minali has to do to close that supposed gap with Caleb is write "Minny" on an application lol...Caleb can't just write a different number on his bank account or write his own scholarship or acceptance letter
Her real problem is being in a sociology class instead of medicine, law or business, which is more likely what her parents would have chosen.
Choosing to finish high-school is not a privilege.
Choosing not to commit crime is not a privilege.
Choosing not to do drugs is not a privilege.
Choosing to get married before having children is not a privilege.
People make the choices that shape their lives. The people who choose wisely are not privileged, they are making progress.
What if its not safe to go to your highschool? What if your family is starving and the jobs available don’t pay enough? What if you have ptsd from a violent environment that pushes you to self medicate? What if you lack the proper education around sex to engrain the value of waiting and protection? Sounds like you are speaking from a very large level of privilege sir..
@@mood1676
What makes your school unsafe? Predatory students? What makes some people violent? Would removing those students have a positive impact?
@Mood**%
Why would your family be starving? Welfare exists for those who need it. Schools serve breakfast, lunch, and in some schools dinners, even on the weekends.
@@mood1676
A cop on every corner would help to maintain a less stressful environment.
@@psychicspy gang activity, school shooters, poor environment, police brutality, hostile behavior from school staff. It’s not uncommon for an angry teacher to weaponize law enforcement. Ive seen 6yo’s get handcuffed and thrown in a squad car for being non violent.
When talking about colour, privilege and discrimination are two sides of the same coin. The problem is we shouldnt be flipping the coin to decide!
These kids are woke before they even get to college. Either that or they are just talking the talk, just to avoid being cancelled and ostracized.
what blows my mind is that people talk about racist things that happen in jobs and uet no one goes to the labor board? at least in canada....
all these "points" the students make its like none of them think even a little bit about the point and how it could be handled.
Systemic oppression isn't actually cut cleanly across racial lines. Prior to the slave trade there was a lot of religious discrimination and the consequences of that also reverberate through history to the present day. Jews obviously, but also reform Christians that immigrated from the Netherlands, Germany and Switzerland. They were refugees escaping systemic oppression in their home countries. See for example the Swiss Mennonite Conference. They mostly settled in the North-Eastern states whose only involvement in the slave trade was opposing it. And within those regions there was still religious nepotism. The term 'white' wasn't in use until roughly 1800 and up to that point discrimination was mostly about religion.
The thing I took from this, is the lecturer thinks that being poor equals being stupid. He might have been trying to make a point, and say that white people are poor too, but he massively talked down to him, and mocked him from his own privileged and skewed point of view.
The think I took is that you mis defined the lecturer he DID NOT at any stage say being poor meant being stupid! Poor people tend to get poorer education but his point was that State Structures favour RACE above income. If you are poor and white you are discriminated against in favour of a less poor or even rich black person.
@@bartconnolly6104 he did say that being poor meant you wouldn't even know how to dress, with his brown belt and black shoes comment. It was in and of itself a very patronising comment, and also outdated and not as objective as he painted it. The ones with real money couldnt give a shit what you wear in any case. That's the petty obsession of those that want to be seen as pillars of the middle classes.
@Phil Y I'm sure his comments on poorer people were not snob comments intend to hurt. But how do the compare to the black person claiming privledge over white people with " it is what it is. Live with it"
@@bartconnolly6104 I agree with his sentiments over all, and you may well be correct that its unintended. I'm certainly astounded and pleasantly surprised that people are having a civil debate in the current climate of cancel culture, and I'm glad that their opinions are being listened to, and then reflected upon, challenged, and are either backed up or attempted to be broken down, depending on their objective validity. I'm just questioning a particular aspect of his arguement, as I myself expect to be challenged on my own opinions and evident biases.
These children have no idea...no life experiences...knowledge is power and their ignorance is dangerous.
Im in the trades and i rather have a high school drop out than a college educated person. Why? Cause the drop out will work and the college kid wont. Now this isnt always the case but for my experience it is the majority. Lol at 50 i still work circles around these kids today.
I want to take this class
If a what and black man family have the same income. And the black kids grades are lower. Is it white privilege that the black kids get precedent for college enrollment? Or even a job? Because he does. This has bern the case my entire 58 years living.
"My White brothers and sisters"
"Growing up in a Jewish household with no expectations by family or teachers to attend college, Richards reluctantly enrolled in classes at his local university but after two-and-a-half years he still had not achieve sophomore status. “I was busy working and trying to be a rock star,” he claims. But midway through his third year he contracted a fever to learn and directed all of his energies toward his studies, deciding that sociology would offer the “greatest flexibility to learn everything about anything.”
Fellow White confirmed.
Old and new money change constantly. But the “insert countries name here” dream gets rebranded according to the market & the desirability of life. I think wealth patterns change in and out of race like you bring up in this highly because of shifts in what booms significantly & creates that swelling income. It goes out of the realm of nepotism and political parties. It is really what industry is rocking the wave 🌊 & if the right people are in it. Only for certain classes though. The upper, middle. Low middle. They Zig zag in the sense that high class is starting up the scale but can descend progressively through newer generations or, stay & remain unaffected. Same with the middle lower class, starting downwards and advancing up in rank, or simply not moving at all. It’s what the culture amplifies as significant in social awareness, elitist, equity. How do those terms morph over the timeline that make them taboo or immoral?
I wonder if that guy knows that some white people came here during world war 2 and didn't have the 400 years of supposedly white privilege. I grew up poor on welfare and grew up in a mostly black community. I kept my head down and worked hard to get out and ahead. Alot of my friends still live in the same situation.
Maybe the fact that Caleb's family had 400 years to escape their working poor status is not them fumbling the bag. Maybe it is indicative of vast numbers of whites not having the the agency and mobility you've been taught to believe in. Listening to kids that have never worked in corporate America describe the hiring practices is pretty laughable too. The sociology of work being talked about here feels about a decade behind actual events on the ground.
Yes this our next generation of young adults clueless letting people talk them into racism against themselves how sad work hard in life you will get what you deserve its almost none exsistant in other countries that people dwell on these things that are third world countries so sad
The people in that class are privileged. What percentage of that class is of what background.
Is this "privilege" transferable by exposure? If you live close to it can you benefit by it? Working at a white owned business? Being adopted by a white family?
Absolutely transferable , just ask OJ .
you know like and all of that
With all due respect to the professor, he had planned out the topic of discussion prepared his talking points for one side of the coin and asking students less then half his age to stand up to his planned line of questioning, bit disingenuous. Wouldn't be a problem is he prepared his talking points for both sides and helped the audience to navigate both sides and bring more empathy to understand both sides better instead of being firmly on one side when anyone with that much grey hair should realise world doesn't work on absolutes its mostly grey.
I didn't come away with that impression . At which point was he biased ?
Those proportions between populations don't really matter when discerning a privilege difference between specific individuals.
3:40 even your sticke dont want to hold you
If this girl's says " like" one more time..
what we we missing
Heres the problem with writing historical wrongs all people from all cultures have wronged others from another culture so how far back do you go
I would ask them what kind of privilege does Obama have?
I managed a McDonalds and hired based on presentation and a greater percentage of black applicants failed here. I made a greater effort to hire blacks and coached my black employees to express this to their friend applicants.
I just throw away the top half of resumes because I dont hire unlucky people
The throwing away of resumes really depends on the application requirements. But may very well be rational. If there are enough applicants and very specific requirements, that is somewhat rational…not totally, but somewhat.
The scholarship issue varies by state. In Florida, it’s illegal to have a white only requirement…or at least when I was graduating. But minorities could.
Peter, it would have been easier if you just said you’re a racist 💀
So if you don’t talk about college just look at the job market, so there is a diversity quota, now take another factor immigration. So I would ask how many jobs are available if there are more applicants than jobs available then there will be people left unemployed, something that has been preposed before was a limitation on expanding population before there are enough jobs for the population already here. Or giving preference of jobs to national born citizens before immigrants.
The homeless person who is more resourceful is the one who is more privileged.
This sounds tone deaf 💀
Watch what you say! Because if you’re saying that white people indeed capitalized off slavery, then in essence you’re saying to Caleb that your family didn’t capitalize enough off black people. This is a very backwards way of thinking.
Call me out if I'm wrong, but I see white privilege as a sort of package deal that gets conveniently simplified via skin colour into the term "white privilege." Let me explain: You have the generational side (which includes wealth, education, parenting, social connections), you have the racism side (which includes overt racists and subconscious racism) , and then you have something that I'd call majority population privilege or familiarity privilege (which could tuck into both types of racism mentioned).
Generational side would be the argument of "your white parent's had longer to become wealthy and more opportunities, so their white kids had the ability to continue that wealth through their life and onto the next white children." It could also be arguments based on "your dad knew this circle of millionaires, and they let you into higher paying job opportunities." All of these aren't necessarily "white privilege," but is labeled as such since generational privilege (or whatever you want to call it) would be mainly on the white side in (for example) north america. Keep in mind that that generational side would not apply in places without that same history, so would not be called white privilege (aka, white privilege would not exist in certain places around the world, but would take a form of a different race).
Racism side would be the argument of "You get hired more often because the person responsible for hiring was probably white (again, perhaps generational and also majority population so higher likelihood) and was a white supremacist, didnt want to hire a black person, or just had a more subconscious racism like a sort of familiarity (familiarity of culture, language, life style). Like generational wealth, this isnt really white privilege since it cant apply to all white people in different places around the world. It is also possible to be racist towards a white person, so the whole situationality of it all makes it more of a potential privilege than an inherent privileged gained through simply skin colour. Again, keep in mind that this would take other forms in other places in the world and would also fall under a different label if we're going with this over-arching "white privilege" instead of breaking down the internal privileges.
Finally, the side of majority population privilege (MPP, lets call it) is the sort of suggestion of subconscious racism and exclusivity like previously mentioned in the 'racism' portion. To think of it from another angle, imagine it as the privilege of not having to sustain prejudice that a minority might have to. Again, lack of familiarity with culture etc. And finally, as goes with the theme of this comment, this aspect changes from place to place, so is not really white privilege, but is labeled as such in places where it could be taken to be white privilege (simply: it is white privilege where white people have the MPP, but not elsewhere because white people arent the MPP).
My whole thought process just stemmed from the thought of "what if we applied white privilege to other places in the world like Venezuela, Iran, China?" and then the following thought of "would they call it persian privilege in Iran? Wait that isn't a race...Would that even matter that they have privilege if they are so unprivileged to live in a place like Iran? Why does this matter at all? This is all just a statistic of probability and doesn't really do anything except spread hate"
Anyways, I have been watching a lot of SOC 119's videos, and the common "scripts" as he calls it often lead to me looking for logical holes in them (as I do with most things), and I've just kind of compiled that into this comment. Not perfectly worded, but I had to write it somewhere. Let me know if I made some mistakes or could improve on my viewpoint.
Now replace "white" with any other group and you have every other country on earth.
We we?
I wonder if the Prof needs to take a refresher in critical thinking. Just listening to their arguments, replace any use of the word "privilege" wish X. All the arguments are circular: they presuppose the conclusion as evidence for the conclusion. That is when they actually put forth an argument, and not just rely on conjecture. The professor never pointed this out.
(Edited for my atrocious spelling)
Sorry kaleb is it what is it. The owner of slaves says the sane thing. Is it what is it.
Why such prolific use of the word "like"?
these white students better look into their CULTURE and ansesters and then come back and tell me their ancestors didnt go through hardships, slavery and getting screwed over at some time. like cmon there isnt a skin color or culture on this earth that hasnt gotten beaten down by an other group
because that ethnic population is larger dude...
AMURICA!
Your "historical wrongs" only happened within America and Africa. Anyone who had descendants from the USSR would tell you that they faced oppression but it was done by whites to whites, so it doesn't matter? That history should just be dismissed because muh slavery?
Try telling me any descendants of the kulaks have any historical privilege. Don't get me wrong, slavery was bad, but they were treated better than anyone who was sent to a gulag.
Not making this into a competition, but it seems Americans want to make the races compete against each other with all these programs, rather than just accepting they just have different levels of melanin.
We already do accept that we all have different skin colors. We have eyes.
Fumbled your privilege is such BS
So black people are privileged then according to her logic.
How are they?
@@gillmsnfillman1691 listen to what she ( the single girl sitting next to max ) she’s openly saying they have privilege because there’s systems in place to help black / brown people get preferential treatment/ privileges/ advancement over others, so they have privilege.
@@johnmclean1046 Firstly, please tell me which systems you believe she’s referring too? And You’re completely misinterpreting what she said. Those systems only exist to counter the racism against black people who are unfairly dismissed from opportunities even when they the same and often better qualified than their white counterpart, in order to make it a merit based system.
@@gillmsnfillman1691 I don’t know what systems she’s referring to but by implication she’s SAYING black and brown people have privilege, you yourself acknowledge this by saying “ Those systems only exist “ , “ racism against black people “ it’s black or brown people we are discussing here, do black people have a monopoly on racism? How would you choose between two people for a job for instance and both are equally experienced, educated, equally matched but you can only hire one how would you distinguish? Differentiate? Choose? Or would play the race card and hire the one of colour? Although it may not feel right there’s a doubt in your head but in order to fair you don’t give the job to the white person, why? Your opinion is that I’m completely “ misinterpreting “ what she said, no I’m interpreting it how it appears to me you have a different view but that doesn’t make it right. Do you ever look at people any person, sex, colour, sexual characteristics, disabilities or whatever and say to yourself I like the look of him or her or say I don’t like the look of them for whatever reason or no reason at all? For instance I know I’m a good guy but many look at me and see a mean growler of a guy when I’m not, I’m kind, pleasant, funny, and interesting, I’ve also been discriminated against by black and white people.
@@gillmsnfillman1691 But isn't it actually doing the opposite for example of you lower the standards let's say test scores then they won't be ready when they go to that certain university or it could apply to work.
Why do you guys always say "you know" and "like"
Because they don’t…. You know…. Like have an argument.
Can anyone think of a single comedian half as famous as Chappelle that is white and says even 1 thing as racist as Chappelle's usual jokes? Don't get me wrong I love Dave Chappelle but he would be black listed if he was white.
@17 :15 speaker says 'historicalky white people had it better" before the 13 colonies historicalky during the cromwelkian plantation of ireland white irish were depirted to carribean plantations and were looked down on by black slaves who they outnumbered. Irish post 1840 famine cane with nothing to the us and they were the lucky ones who didnt starve or die from cholera in ireland. How did they 'have it better' ?
Using Irish suffrage in discussions about systemic racism and white privilege is so overplayed. Are Irish-Americans at a systemic disadvantaged today? No, absolutely not.
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Neither are black Americans. Case closed.
@@thegoldenarm6422 The teacher in the video believes in and discusses systemic racism against Black people in America. What are you even doing here, anyway? 😂
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Don't care. Systemic racism is still a myth, like it or not.
How would a black chattel slaves that Weren’t even considered human but property, look down on the Irish who were indentured servants? The fake “Irish slave myth” is overplayed, and a disgrace to the actual problems the Irish had against the English.
Like college were free until black people were allowed to go to college than the president during that time decided to make people pay to go to college
Poor girl, first speaker, can hardly string a sentence together like.
Can the girl in the middle possibly fit the word "Like" in a few hundred more times before her sentence ends? Very distracting!
Can you say brainwashed?
"Who is more privileged: a black homeless person or a white homeless person?" What a ridiculous question. You're telling me that skin tone is of importance here if both are constantly looking for their next meal and a place to sleep? Both homeless people are living in America, the most privileged country on Earth. Try framing the question as being homeless in the US vs. a third world country instead of skin color and maybe you'll have something worthy of discussion.
It’s to spark a discussion. The clear point is if both are already at their lowest, then does “white privilege” really matter? At what society status point does skin tone matter? Look a little deeper.
Yes 🙌🏻
He does frame it a few mins later with caleb the cameraman versus the rich black guy
Where is the US the most privileged country on earth except for the super rich?
@@vogelfaenger6830 I don't understand your question. The US is clearly NOT the most privledged country on Earth. there are a lot of poor with disadvantages in the US. the Richest per capita country although it is a small country is Luxembiurg as far as I know. Public Transport is free in Luxembourg. They are worth three to four times the US per capita. Buyt the suicide rate is still high there. In Europe there are MANY social housing initiaves. People are offered mixed housing not Ghettoes. There are national health services etc.
Lol, try hetero privilege,
Racists.
What Caleb said tuff nuts to you though?
"White people had privilege for hundreds of years." Uhhh...nope. Wrong answer.
The white race, compared to other races in America? Yes.
If you can't make a comment in a debate without saying like 9 million times you have no actual intelligence or critical thinking skills whatsoever