Hey for the con in the software part - press shift when you are on that slice and press extract(f2). I really recommend reading through that manual like a textbook. This is the best MPC ever in my opinion.
I just re-watched and saw you wanted to use the split function. So nevermind above. You could still do it that way by having a new sample and splitting it with non destructive chop
Yeah that's the first thing I did when I had that issue a while ago but didn't see anything. Not a big deal but it would be cool to be able to slice a slice non-destructive.
i bought one a few days ago. it's almost in mint condition with all additional features. only paid 600! I love it so far. Glad i found your channel, your videos are very helpful dude! =)
I love this MPC-had this as an upgrade to my XL in the noughties. Some say the 2000 sounds better but that’s nonsense-they sound virtually identical. Get a 3000 if you want ‘special grit’ or whatever. The great thing is the OS is quite sophisticated so can be used for fuller productions (even more so with the JJ series) but it’s still old school Even though USB 1, being able to hook it up to my 2024 laptop to put samples on it is very convenient. The real reason I keep it and use it for anything hip-hoppy and more is that I’ve used it nearly 20 years and know exactly how it works. I love making music but find ‘learning gear’ quite boring, a distraction from music.
2500 is the best mix of old-world MPC combined with something modern enough to not be a pain when it comes to transferring samples. I use it as a DAWless sketch pad for everything from making unique drum loops I can then record into my DAW or sometimes for near-finished tracks. While I’d quite like a Live or an X-those feel like ‘DAWs in a box’ with much of the ‘option paralysis’ that plagues DAW-based music. If I want all the easy timestretching of a modern MPC i can just work in the DAW directly without the overkill of MPC software running as a VST.
Thank you for this video. This is the machine I’m looking at. The Pro’s and cons of this video are awesome. Was looking at the 2000xl or the Mpc one. I think this is the in between. Thanks again!!!!
another cool feature about usb is the software BLUEBOX, allowing user to create keyboard programs like with an s6k or other samplers... My mpc 2k5 has been my main midi center since iot was released, and when i could afford an x... I went for regen... I luuuv the jog wheel personally. my grey one's finger hole turned white though...
Lofi samplers are a dime a dozen 8 bit 12 bit low frequency 16 bit Yamaha zoom Roland casio Control them from the 2500 Pick up a nice analogue filter doesn't matter what you sample with
@17:30 Not just for people who want to make BoomBap… MetroBoomin and Travis Scott are some of the newer guys who are making Trap and dominating with older MPCs.
I wish Akai would've revisited the MPC 1000 & 2500, and modernized the design and improve it. The new ones Akai recently came out with is okay, but in my opinion, the designs are terrible.
@@ameeromedia5883 Honestly, no. I like the design where the screen was on "top" of the buttons and pads; similar to MPC 100 & 2500. I fell in love with Akai MPC Studio Black, but at this point, that MPC (from what I've read online and heard) is dated and not worth purchasing. Until then, I'll either invest in the old school MPC (leaning more towards the MPC 1000), or wait to see if Akai will come out with new MPC's.
@@alfredschnozzenstein1657 Aww ok, you must be a true MPC user. I only own a couple of 1000's about 15 years ago and sold them after a few weeks. I do more keyboard workstation production with a computer and the workflow was very confusing to me. I just got a MPC Live 2 thought. I really like it but the pads are board stiff. Are they liek that on the 2500?
@@ameeromedia5883 You know, I would say that because I'm more hands on, I could at least get more control on the drums and samples when it comes to the MPC, but creating drums with just a keyboard and software is a little tough. But to answer your question, the pads depend on the MPC 2500. If you get the thick pads, they feel soft and amazing. The regular pads are stiff.
@@alfredschnozzenstein1657 Oh ok, I just got into sampling. But I have been playing keyboard drums for a long time. Its super easy but of course you know the drums from keyboards suck! Bought the Micro MK2 a few years back and once again the workflow is just confusing so I was like if I get the Akai I know the drums will be banging and I could sample a little bit. I wonder if they have replacement pads for this Live 2.
Definitely not better, the 2000 and 2000XL are better built, they last a life time all parts are available to fix everything on them. The 2500 was made by inmusic not Akai, it's a poorer and less sustainable for life product, the only advantage are a few features on the OS if you use jj, but the 2000XL has everything I need anyway. I've used both over the years and much prefer a 2000XL.
Mpc 2500 jjos has the best workflow I would say. I really miss my 2500se. I 'm actually looking into getting another sampler. Maybe a MPC 3000, but I do love the 2500 and the 4000. I did not like the jog wheel a ton for editing like you said. Even to today with my MPC I use the + and - for editing. I just got used to it from my 2500 from years ago. Hopefully I run into one at a decent price. Then maybe I can get a 3000 and a 2500 hahaha. Overkill but why not.
@@mareikemacinnes7764 hahaha ya don't need to tell me to read the manual. Haha I used to use them sliders back in the day for editing like the sp1200. Good times.
YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TO MANY MPC'S!!! I HAVE A BUNCH OF THEM AND THEY ALL HAVE THERE OWN QUALITIES THAT MAKE THEM SPECIAL! SO TREAT YOURSELF CAUSE AS A FELLOW GEAR HEAD WE JUST CAN'T RESIST THESE MACHINES. . .💯✌️
In the free 3.13 version of JJOS I can press the "shift" button and then F1 to get to a "test" page, where I can test all the different buttons, faders, knobs and LED's on the unit. This helped me find an issue with an MPC2500 that I wanted to buy (the very left q-link fader, button and knobs didn't work, which included the "erase" button). Is there something similar in the current version of JJOSXL? I did see areally old video about this on YT with shift + F2, but when I loaded 3.83 on my 2500 (without a license, so just for testing) I couldn't find that.
What else sucks is that if you have a sample pack that you want to load onto the HD and use them, the file name can't be over 8 characters or else you'll get the "wrong file!" message.... don't know of this eas addressed.
Ever considered getting the mpcstuff jog wheel board replacement? Got a 2500 recently and discovered that the original one definitely sucks. It has a harsh feeling, extra clicky and noisy af. Can't imagine using this thing going further compared to the one on the 1000. Unfortunately there's no reviews of that board whatsoever so it's kind of a 164$ bet..
Yeah I thought about it but I already had most of the tacts replaced so buying the board it's like I wasted my time and money doing all that. Maybe one day I might. It's such an easy solution though but a bit pricey.
@@illmuzik Disliked the 2500's jog wheel so much that I took the chance and went for it blindly. I'll let you know how different it is once it's received and installed.
@ It could be either. What you want is something that can take multiple stereo inputs (for each MPC, other gear, etc) and feeds the audio to a set of studio monitors. On the mixer, you adjust the volume of each piece of gear!
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@@massikrbeats9195 that's why i said do i need a mixer board that has multiple channels that's why i am trying to figure which one to buy
Hey thanks for the videos on this beast. I have a question. Looking to upgrade my 2500 with the JJoSXl large screen. Have heard some say the Blue screen from MPC stuff is hard on the eyes but looks awesome. Any recommendations on the Blue screen versus the (Black/White) one they offer? Thanks
I use this feature all the time on the 2500 with JJOS. I use the sequencer to control Serato sample on the computer and once I have the sequence dialed in I'll record it directly from the computer to the 2500. Once done it will be a full audio loop!
Yo my man said the jog wheel is too noisy when you're making beats at night!! Did nobody catch that ?? Haha if you're making beats at night, you're already making noise to begin with 😂
Hey love the channel. Being a Limey how comes you lot say one thousand and twenty five hundred? Wouldnt it be 10 hundred and 25 hundred or how we say 1 thousand and 2 thousand 500? Just a thought ha
Thank you for explaining the JJOS operating system I heard Bolo Da Producer talk about it and I'm like I must be an old Music Producer and I'm late to the party LOL. I just didn't have a clue I knew it was an operating system though but thanks to you explaining it I now understand I have the 2KXL btw LMAO.
I would disagree, they are only going to become more rare over time, the price isnt going down, and its cool to own one, alot of legendary music has been made on this version of mpc
@@LG-ro5le the 2500 is cool, it’s just not over a thousand dollars cool. The Nukai line of samplers are the most generic sounding of all the legacy MPCS. If you can grab a 2500 with JJOS for under 800 then I would do it, but only if you can get a deal on it. So I didn’t say it not worth it, it’s just not worth it at the going rate.
@@bennettbaskerville928 completely agree. MPC 1000 is the budget king for $400 with jjos. I fortunately got my 2500 for the same price with free jjos and screen worked but no color. Worth it imo but I could not see myself paying 800+ when the 1k exists. Tilt screen is definitely nice tho
@@anonymous_friend From different forums. Heard it multiple times from JJo's users over the years. The Akai Mpc 2500 has a latency of 0.02ms (Litmus test by Innerclock Systems). By using JJos, this latency value apparently deteriorates to several milliseconds in some cases. The whole n modern MPC (Live, Live2, One) have the same problem, the latency values are very bad. I think it's the range of features. By that I mean that the more complex an MPC becomes, the better the codes and algorithms of the operating system have to be. JJ is a great programmer, but there's a reason Akai has a room full of JJs to develop good operating systems! ;) Whoever works with Midi should use the last official operating system from Akai. Greetings from Germany
@@mareikemacinnes7764 i think the akai standalones fixed that issue via update. As long as they are not being controlled all is good. Still some slave latency issues still i think tho. Signal wise all should be good now.
2500 are still dope ✊🏾
Hey for the con in the software part - press shift when you are on that slice and press extract(f2). I really recommend reading through that manual like a textbook. This is the best MPC ever in my opinion.
I just re-watched and saw you wanted to use the split function. So nevermind above. You could still do it that way by having a new sample and splitting it with non destructive chop
Yeah that's the first thing I did when I had that issue a while ago but didn't see anything. Not a big deal but it would be cool to be able to slice a slice non-destructive.
Especially if you have that JJOS installed! Makes a big difference!
i bought one a few days ago. it's almost in mint condition with all additional features. only paid 600! I love it so far. Glad i found your channel, your videos are very helpful dude! =)
i hope to find one for a steal like that!
I love this MPC-had this as an upgrade to my XL in the noughties. Some say the 2000 sounds better but that’s nonsense-they sound virtually identical. Get a 3000 if you want ‘special grit’ or whatever.
The great thing is the OS is quite sophisticated so can be used for fuller productions (even more so with the JJ series) but it’s still old school Even though USB 1, being able to hook it up to my 2024 laptop to put samples on it is very convenient.
The real reason I keep it and use it for anything hip-hoppy and more is that I’ve used it nearly 20 years and know exactly how it works. I love making music but find ‘learning gear’ quite boring, a distraction from music.
I wish akai would make a newer Mpc with this form factor and the touchscreen. I mean they made the x like an updated mpc 5000 so
2500 is the best mix of old-world MPC combined with something modern enough to not be a pain when it comes to transferring samples.
I use it as a DAWless sketch pad for everything from making unique drum loops I can then record into my DAW or sometimes for near-finished tracks.
While I’d quite like a Live or an X-those feel like ‘DAWs in a box’ with much of the ‘option paralysis’ that plagues DAW-based music. If I want all the easy timestretching of a modern MPC i can just work in the DAW directly without the overkill of MPC software running as a VST.
well said
if Akai were clever they would release a new unit with the old school OS and approach...
That’s a clean unit 🔥
Thank you for this video. This is the machine I’m looking at. The Pro’s and cons of this video are awesome. Was looking at the 2000xl or the Mpc one. I think this is the in between. Thanks again!!!!
Personally i found trap and drill beats pretty enjoyable to do with jjos i had creativity block for over a year with fl studio
That's exactly what I'm planning to do! And for the same reasons
same for me...changing to akai was a gamechanger
can you explode sequence on this old model onto a compact flash drive? also how many samples can you still load up
another cool feature about usb is the software BLUEBOX, allowing user to create keyboard programs like with an s6k or other samplers... My mpc 2k5 has been my main midi center since iot was released, and when i could afford an x... I went for regen... I luuuv the jog wheel personally. my grey one's finger hole turned white though...
great video dude thank you
It would be perfect machine if it has S950/S2400 sound. And Im not talking about bit reducing from JJOS.
Lofi samplers are a dime a dozen 8 bit 12 bit low frequency 16 bit Yamaha zoom Roland casio
Control them from the 2500
Pick up a nice analogue filter doesn't matter what you sample with
Some people never gonna be happy
@@Claidheambmor I a
I am, just talking about perfection here.
@@madluper I agree, would be perfect
@17:30 Not just for people who want to make BoomBap… MetroBoomin and Travis Scott are some of the newer guys who are making Trap and dominating with older MPCs.
I wish Akai would've revisited the MPC 1000 & 2500, and modernized the design and improve it. The new ones Akai recently came out with is okay, but in my opinion, the designs are terrible.
You don't like the MPC live 2 design?
@@ameeromedia5883 Honestly, no. I like the design where the screen was on "top" of the buttons and pads; similar to MPC 100 & 2500. I fell in love with Akai MPC Studio Black, but at this point, that MPC (from what I've read online and heard) is dated and not worth purchasing. Until then, I'll either invest in the old school MPC (leaning more towards the MPC 1000), or wait to see if Akai will come out with new MPC's.
@@alfredschnozzenstein1657 Aww ok, you must be a true MPC user. I only own a couple of 1000's about 15 years ago and sold them after a few weeks. I do more keyboard workstation production with a computer and the workflow was very confusing to me. I just got a MPC Live 2 thought. I really like it but the pads are board stiff. Are they liek that on the 2500?
@@ameeromedia5883 You know, I would say that because I'm more hands on, I could at least get more control on the drums and samples when it comes to the MPC, but creating drums with just a keyboard and software is a little tough. But to answer your question, the pads depend on the MPC 2500. If you get the thick pads, they feel soft and amazing. The regular pads are stiff.
@@alfredschnozzenstein1657 Oh ok, I just got into sampling. But I have been playing keyboard drums for a long time. Its super easy but of course you know the drums from keyboards suck! Bought the Micro MK2 a few years back and once again the workflow is just confusing so I was like if I get the Akai I know the drums will be banging and I could sample a little bit. I wonder if they have replacement pads for this Live 2.
2500 is better than the 2000 or 2000xl. Nice build, individual outputs, fx, qlink knobs and file management via USB.
Definitely not better, the 2000 and 2000XL are better built, they last a life time all parts are available to fix everything on them. The 2500 was made by inmusic not Akai, it's a poorer and less sustainable for life product, the only advantage are a few features on the OS if you use jj, but the 2000XL has everything I need anyway. I've used both over the years and much prefer a 2000XL.
I got mpc1000, mpc live 2 retro and digitakt. I always have wanted a mpc 2000xl, mpc 2500 and mpc x..
Mpc 2500 jjos has the best workflow I would say. I really miss my 2500se. I 'm actually looking into getting another sampler. Maybe a MPC 3000, but I do love the 2500 and the 4000. I did not like the jog wheel a ton for editing like you said. Even to today with my MPC I use the + and - for editing. I just got used to it from my 2500 from years ago. Hopefully I run into one at a decent price. Then maybe I can get a 3000 and a 2500 hahaha. Overkill but why not.
You can take the slider for many things, even for the start and end points of a sample. ;)
Read the manual!
@@mareikemacinnes7764 hahaha ya don't need to tell me to read the manual. Haha I used to use them sliders back in the day for editing like the sp1200. Good times.
Get the 4k 🔥🔥🔥
MPC X?
YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TO MANY MPC'S!!! I HAVE A BUNCH OF THEM AND THEY ALL HAVE THERE OWN QUALITIES THAT MAKE THEM SPECIAL! SO TREAT YOURSELF CAUSE AS A FELLOW GEAR HEAD WE JUST CAN'T RESIST THESE MACHINES. . .💯✌️
In the free 3.13 version of JJOS I can press the "shift" button and then F1 to get to a "test" page, where I can test all the different buttons, faders, knobs and LED's on the unit. This helped me find an issue with an MPC2500 that I wanted to buy (the very left q-link fader, button and knobs didn't work, which included the "erase" button). Is there something similar in the current version of JJOSXL? I did see areally old video about this on YT with shift + F2, but when I loaded 3.83 on my 2500 (without a license, so just for testing) I couldn't find that.
What else sucks is that if you have a sample pack that you want to load onto the HD and use them, the file name can't be over 8 characters or else you'll get the "wrong file!" message.... don't know of this eas addressed.
Trap drums sound great on the 2500 and you can add melody loops into it as well
They a rechargeble AC power supply for theses mpc's its on youtube if you're interested
Saw that. Looks really interesting.
@@illmuzik i am thinking of getting that for my mpc 5000
If you exchange jog board the jjos loose passwd, and you need to buy new lic for jjos
I never heard that. Where did you see that?
Um no
Misinformation... That's only if u swap out the MAIN pcb.
I need to buy one.where is it available?
Ever considered getting the mpcstuff jog wheel board replacement?
Got a 2500 recently and discovered that the original one definitely sucks.
It has a harsh feeling, extra clicky and noisy af.
Can't imagine using this thing going further compared to the one on the 1000.
Unfortunately there's no reviews of that board whatsoever so it's kind of a 164$ bet..
Yeah I thought about it but I already had most of the tacts replaced so buying the board it's like I wasted my time and money doing all that. Maybe one day I might. It's such an easy solution though but a bit pricey.
@@illmuzik Disliked the 2500's jog wheel so much that I took the chance and went for it blindly. I'll let you know how different it is once it's received and installed.
@@illmuzik There you go, worth every penny imo :)
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@@HanHuman Have you received it yet?
@@IEatDogShit there's a link to a video I did about it in the comment just above.
I am thinking about buying one but how do i connect two mpcs to a pair of studio monitors that i have?
A mixer
@@massikrbeats9195 a studio mixer or DJ mixer?
@ It could be either. What you want is something that can take multiple stereo inputs (for each MPC, other gear, etc) and feeds the audio to a set of studio monitors. On the mixer, you adjust the volume of each piece of gear!
@@massikrbeats9195 that's why i said do i need a mixer board that has multiple channels that's why i am trying to figure which one to buy
All you need is a simple studio mixer
Tilt screen 💪🏽😁
do you know what to do when my mpc crashes sometimes? it's doing this since i upgraded to jjos free... didnt had the issue with akai os
I hear you on that jog wheel part lol
@illmuzik great video! I'm tryna get me one too!
Hey thanks for the videos on this beast. I have a question. Looking to upgrade my 2500 with the JJoSXl large screen. Have heard some say the Blue screen from MPC stuff is hard on the eyes but looks awesome. Any recommendations on the Blue screen versus the (Black/White) one they offer? Thanks
I don't think the blue should be too bad, I guess it depends on the user. I've used the green and the black and both are fine.
Can u use fl studio mobile with this device?
Hey man, Does the direct record feature still work with jjosxl?
Unfortunately it's not in any of the JJOS versions, only the original Akai OS: www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/mpc2500/chart.htm
I use this feature all the time on the 2500 with JJOS. I use the sequencer to control Serato sample on the computer and once I have the sequence dialed in I'll record it directly from the computer to the 2500. Once done it will be a full audio loop!
Yo my man said the jog wheel is too noisy when you're making beats at night!! Did nobody catch that ?? Haha if you're making beats at night, you're already making noise to begin with 😂
LOL.
headphones
If the Jog wheel doesn’t make some type noise I don’t want it 😂
😂😂
Headphones
Hey man, digging your videos! I am looking at grabbing a 2500 right now.
Have you tried the upgraded jog wheel from MPC Stuff?
Thanks. Yes, I'll be doing that very soon.
temper expectations, both the original and mpcstuff replacement are iffy
im having issues getting the xl can you help out.
You can buy it here: www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/mpc2500/
Real descriptive. :P
Hey love the channel.
Being a Limey how comes you lot say one thousand and twenty five hundred? Wouldnt it be 10 hundred and 25 hundred or how we say 1 thousand and 2 thousand 500? Just a thought ha
I just got one , now learning to use is a different story lol
Nice! It was a bit tough at first but check some of the videos I have that explain the basics.
2500 with Maschine software is the best of both worlds
I hate seeing people with 2500s with immaculate paint right under the pads and transport buttons. My paint started wearing off super early.
Thank you for explaining the JJOS operating system I heard Bolo Da Producer talk about it and I'm like I must be an old Music Producer and I'm late to the party LOL. I just didn't have a clue I knew it was an operating system though but thanks to you explaining it I now understand I have the 2KXL btw LMAO.
Hated everything u liked. Nothing like legacy build is great, but sound to get less nerdy subpar .. i own 2000 classic 3000 and the X😊
Yes jog wheel is terrible not smooth like the 2000 xl
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
aesthetically looking it's the best one this 1 and the 1000 the 3000 looks goofy
Nobody buying them they on live ,one, xl, 2000
Not worth it at the current going rate.
Yes, the prices are very high now.
I would disagree, they are only going to become more rare over time, the price isnt going down, and its cool to own one, alot of legendary music has been made on this version of mpc
@@LG-ro5le the 2500 is cool, it’s just not over a thousand dollars cool. The Nukai line of samplers are the most generic sounding of all the legacy MPCS. If you can grab a 2500 with JJOS for under 800 then I would do it, but only if you can get a deal on it. So I didn’t say it not worth it, it’s just not worth it at the going rate.
@@bennettbaskerville928 completely agree. MPC 1000 is the budget king for $400 with jjos. I fortunately got my 2500 for the same price with free jjos and screen worked but no color. Worth it imo but I could not see myself paying 800+ when the 1k exists. Tilt screen is definitely nice tho
@@jjwinterstorm I agree with you.
I'll just use My Akai midi keyboard.
If you use Midi Equipment you shouldn't use Jjos, it's fucking up your latency and the midi timing is not rock solid any more.
@@anonymous_friend From different forums. Heard it multiple times from JJo's users over the years.
The Akai Mpc 2500 has a latency of 0.02ms (Litmus test by Innerclock Systems).
By using JJos, this latency value apparently deteriorates to several milliseconds in some cases.
The whole n modern MPC (Live, Live2, One) have the same problem, the latency values are very bad.
I think it's the range of features. By that I mean that the more complex an MPC becomes, the better the codes and algorithms of the operating system have to be.
JJ is a great programmer, but there's a reason Akai has a room full of JJs to develop good operating systems! ;)
Whoever works with Midi should use the last official operating system from Akai.
Greetings from Germany
@@mareikemacinnes7764 i think the akai standalones fixed that issue via update. As long as they are not being controlled all is good. Still some slave latency issues still i think tho. Signal wise all should be good now.
First;)