I'm really sad wish didn't go full 2D. Between it being an anniversary film, the story centering around the wishing star from old movies, and the company expressing interest in possibly doing 2D again, this was the perfect chance for it.
I miss 2d movies so much :( I was hoping enchanted 2 would have the same animated style as enchanted but it had a shitty 2d cgi instead. I can’t even describe how sick I am of cgi. 3D and 2d skins on 3D cgi models.
@@Wiimeiser Yeah and the reason is bad marketing, or bad release schedules (see treasure planet) which Disney enforced to have an excuse to kill their 2D department.
if it didn’t go 2D, i think it would’ve been cool for them to replicate the 2D style in 3D, kind of like charlie brown for those comic strips, puss in boots for children’s books, and spiderverse for comic books.
I remember having a theory about Elemental, which is that the whole idea of “elements don’t mix” is less about prejudice and possibly more about how commonality doesn’t really mean you belong together. Considering the main characters are literally fire and water, that does result in steam, but it also results in one of them disappearing. Perhaps the parents do actually say this out of concern that their daughter might end up hurt, and it would be interesting if the actual moral was that just because Ember and Wade can be friends doesn’t really mean they’re made for each other. They just like having each other‘s company.
I saw a comment on a different video (probably the YMS reaction vid) that the movie would probably work a lot better if Ember and Wade were two elements on the periodic table that would actually make something dangerous if they mixed, like if they were chlorine and bromine or something. Then the movie could be about how two people can love each other, but not necessarily be good for each other. As it is though, I feel like I can already predict the entire synopsis of this movie. "Romeo and Juliet with a touch of Strange World" is the best way to describe it
@@Commenter839 Nobody really wants to watch a movie where the couple "isn't good for each other". They wanna watch a movie with a happy ending, not even Soul had a downer ending.
Also Wish doesn’t even have a full trailer but a teaser. I don’t know why he didn’t mention that. You can’t judge a story by a teaser. It’s meant to raise awareness that the movie exists and some of the basic concepts (like what the main character looks like, what is the animation style and inform its a musical and plot has something to do with Wishes).
Okay, I've said it once, I'll say it agan: Wreck It Ralph does NOT have a twist villain. King Candy is clearly the antogonist right from the beginning, we're clued in directly almost immediately after meeting him, and his behavior throughout the movie does not change; he has a consistent personality. The only twist is WHO he actually is, not the fact that he's a villain, as in is the case with other twist villains.
Y.... Yeah... That's... What a twist villain is SUPPOSED to be. Just because the other DISNEY twist villains are shitty doesn't mean he isn't one, it's not a dump on wreck it ralph it's just a trope name
@Ath King Candy is not a "twist villain." The trope everyone is talking about with Disney's modern "twist villains" is the "Evil All Along" trope. A villain with a twist is not the same thing as a twist villain. King Candy being Turbo is just a regular reveal. The fact that he is evil is not hidden, which means that he isn't a "twist villain." He's just a villain, and there's a later reveal about him.
I mean, you're still not really right. King Candy is a peculiar case. He isn’t a "twist villain" (in the vein of more modern examples), but he is undoubtedly a villain with a twist. He is clearly an antagonist from the beginning - but, before the twist, it’s hard to imagine him as the film’s "true antagonist”, the "final boss" (if they truly even intended on successfully delivering a classical grand climax akin to older Disney films, that is). We mostly just see him as a smaller antagonist until the reveal. The twist isn’t that he’s a villain, it’s that he is THE villain. Thus, calling him a "twist villain" still isn't at all off - it's just that the Disney films that came afterwards completely ruined the reputation of that character trope with plenty of poorly-executed and uninspired examples. It's not like modern Disney invented the twist villain - it's a classical trope that can find its way into narratives in various forms.
I agree. Still, this leaves Disney with just 2 films with villains (3 if you count Tamatoa's one scene in Moana) in 13 years. That is not a very good villain rate for sure. So just the presence of a villain is a note. But King Candy is definitely an obvious and delightful villain from the beginning with a fun motivation that gets more interesting as his backstory is revealed. Disney as a brand is practically built on villains (alongside incredible animation and music) though and the fact that they have had 2 (and Gothel was not very good either) since 2010 is pretty bad.
@CJ Cable Oh sure, totally. I'm not defending their villain rate. I miss the days of classic bombastic villains. I just don't like that people always lump Wreck It Ralph in with all the other movies that do this trope to death. Though I'm surprised you don't like Gothel. I thought she worked pretty well for that story.
After seeing movies like Lightyear attempt a somewhat realistic style of 3D animation, I’m glad to see something like Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken; which is much more stylized.
@@hunterolaughlin and with wish having just a bad (not in bad like writen but just a evil to be evil villian with wish) maybe a turning point for disney
I mean the trailer does beat you over the head with "humans are stupid" just like Invader Zim. I do think if Ruby is a huge success, the "humans are too stupid to notice" trope could become overused in the long run like the twist villain trope.
It would actually be pretty funny if they leaned hard into that Zim oblivious human trope. I would genuinely laugh if Ruby explained away her blue skin as a "Skin condition."
I feel that people give Teenage Kraken too much credit because Dreamworks had a hit with The Last Wish. Movies should never be judged by their studios, in my opinion.
Especially Sony Animation, when in 2018, a year after the disaster that was The Emoji Movie, they released Into the Spiderverse, which was actually very well received.
I think my personal issue with Wish's art direction is, it feels like several different art styles mashed together into one in an inconsistent way. And it's not only with the visual appearance, but with the way characters move as well. Valentino the goat has exaggerated facial expressions and an angular design reminiscent of Djali from Hunchback of Notre Dame, but Asha's design is smoother, more realistic, closer to other CGI princesses. And the star doesn't even look like a Disney character, it looks more like something out of Adventure Time.
It also just looks cheap. It looks like a show from Disney Channel. I think they also reduced the frame rate, but it's at a rate that feels weird, which again saves money.
Hot Take: I actually quite like Cars. I wouldn’t say it’s one of Pixar’s best films, but I enjoy it. I like how it features a Hot Shot having to get humbled by this small town in Arizona. And I enjoy the small-town America aesthetic, it’s something we don’t really see a whole lot of in animation.
Oh me too! I loved it as a kid and used to collect the cars also I really like the songs used in it. It’s a simple story but it’s sweet and wholesome. Cars 2 was definitely dumb but it was entertaining enough with how chaotic it got
The thumbnail for this video looks pretty cool. Pure warm colors with Ember from Elemental, a combo of warm and cool with the mermaid in the center, and pure cool tones on the end with Asha from Wish. It's like a gentle gradient despite all the colors being so vivid and also being opposite.
My issues with Elemental can be mostly summed up with it's catch phrase. "Elements do not mix". In Zootopia they were separated mostly due to preference and convenience, but in elemental they are separated by necessity. The trailer shows a fire person bumping into a plant person and burning them up. Those issues aren't easily overcome and playing them off as trivial feels cheep. There's also the entire "why do you let anyone tell you what to do" narrative. It is aggressively irreverent of everything that came before. Why don't you walk in the street or drink bleach? Sometimes there's a good reason people tell you not to do things. Taking it as gospel without thinking isn't good, but neither is rejecting it out of hand. It seems to be saying 'your parents are stupid, don't listen to them' and that rubs me the wrong way. If it was 'your parents can be wrong and you should think for yourself' that would be another thing entirely.
Recently they changed it to water and fire cannot mix, I feel that it makes more sense. And Wade says that to the protagonist because she is an adult woman and she doesn’t go outside of where they live only because her dad forbids her. I think that is a good point, when you grow up you can go out and go everywhere you want if you are responsible and you are already a mature person that knows how to discern good from bad. If she was a teenager or too young I would see what you said but I feel that it is very implied that she is a full grown adult woman. And I can tell you that there are parents that still tell their daughters what they can and can’t do in their 25’s or 30’s and it is not related to safety, is control or excessive protection. What I find weird is that the analogy of different people mixing don’t work so well in this setting. Because there are real motives why people can’t mix, fire burns earth, water puts out fire etc… In our real life mixing with other people of different ethnicities and cultures is not that hard if you get rid of the prejudice. Because we are mostly the same, we are not made of different substances that interact negatively.
I'm in full support of these 3 upcoming projects, since what really matters is that they're all original, and definitely not a live action remake of something that already exists. I can also accept adaptations from books, video games, etc, as long as it stays faithful to the source material, like the Bad Guys or the Super Mario Bros Movie
Elemental is not "original", it's the literal exact formula every one of their movies has followed for years. He's X, she's Y, "what if (concept) had their own society".
I bet if wish becomes somewhat a success (even a small one) they will live action it in 3 to 5 years. Heck, I bet frozen did not get live action adopted yet cause its merch still makes too much cash
My thoughts on each: * Elemental sounds pretty boring. * DreamWorks is giving Disney another middle finger. * I'm skeptic towards Wish. Cynicalism is unhealthy.
Elemental is supposed to be a coming of age type story inspired by the director's experience as an immigrant and marrying a woman who isn't Korean. The shop likely represents the shop his family owned in the Bronx.
@@billybarnett9518 I mean look...I understand that...He wanted to make a movie about his personal events and such but...This is marketed for children...If anything, that story is not gonna be fun for them...Ya know what I mean?
I also have to commend DreamWorks for doing what Pixar does and looking to more modestly famous actors for the main casts of their newer movies like Lana Condor or Sam Rockwell on The Bad Guys instead of over relying on capital A-list actors
I kind of thought it took place in the hot dog finger universe from Everything Everywhere All At Once, since everybody seems to have those super wavy long fingers! But yeah it does look pretty interesting style-wise, the humans are a little generic looking for my taste but Ruby and Chelsea have some nice character designs.
One thing you have to give DreamWorks: they do always stylize their films. Every franchise has a distinct style of their own, for better (Kung Fu Panda) or worse (Shark Tale). As far as Wish goes, probably the one of the three I'm most intrigued by, and I think the trailer being vague helped that. The storybook style is one I enjoy immensely and it kinda reminds me of early Disney films where they started by opening a storybook. Also, I do have to make a tiny comparison here to Song of the Sea, which had a watercolor effect.
I actually LIKE Ruby Gilliman's aesthetics and designed. They're more cartoony and are gonna be a breath of fresh air from the modern 'stock CG character' TM that especially Disney is guilty off. I mean ALL their characters look the same nowadays. It's nice to see animators being able to play around and be more creative for change.
In my opinion, it gives the movie an aesthetic and recognisable trait. The way Disney makes their humans is almost uniform like, and boring. Characterless What Teenage Cracken is doing makes this move have that dash of personality. And best of all, the characters are stylised to have a personality.i wish this movie is a success, just to rub salt in the wound of Disney for remaking movies with no good changes
Keep in mind about Wish, it's the teaser trailer, not the full trailer. Frozen's teaser trailer only showed Sven and Olaf on a lake. Encanto's teaser trailer only showed the butterfly. Frankly I'm surprised Wish's teaser trailer showed as much as it did.
Teenage Kraken looks the most promising out of all 3 trailers, one reason I say this is because the trailer for Puss in Boots: The Last Wish felt exactly like the movie did when I saw it in theaters. The story, the characters, the visuals, everything felt properly advertised in comparison to the actual movie. I’m not saying there’s any guarantee that Teenage Kraken will be the next awesome Dreamworks movie, but with the trailer itself and how Puss in Boots: The Last Wish was advertised, it seems likely that Teenage Kraken will do well, especially in comparison to Disney’s The Little Mermaid remake that 90% of critics and audiences aren’t excited for from its trailer.
Hopefully Little Mermaid Reimagined (because Geez I have to create my own fan titles to seperate from the original title) flops and tells Disney that these remakes cant be your only solution to cash
Honestly part of me wants to see the Ruby Gilman movie since it seems like a middle finger to Disney's live action remake to a movie that wasn't broken but they felt the need to fix anyway and at least it's an original animated IP.
You have a good point. When you see a trailer that calls your attention you go to the cinema. And if the movie feels the same way the people are going to end satisfied because they got what they saw.
Wish only has a *teaser* trailer at the moment. I reckon the official trailer(s) which I'm assuming will be shown in a few months will actually give us an idea of the main premise. And I'm excited!
Elemental, to me, looks like a Disney short film extended into an hour long one. I hope it has some actual twist that the trailer didn't spoil, but I'm not too optimistic on that. I really want Teenage Kraken to be great. I had not even heard of Wish yet.
Well the teaser trailer for wish has got some positive feedback because it looks like a generic Disney film good because he has mostly been making Star Wars and Marvel and live-action remakes which have not been doing so well that's why I'm glad they're working on originals like element and wish because it sound like Disney is trying to go back to basic
I'll say that right now, Elemental just looks, predictable. I'm hoping there's something that we're not expecting, but right now, it just looks like you're run of the mill Romeo and Juliet story
I’m actually excited for Teenage Kraken 🦑 it seems like a return to form with Dreamworks Disney parodies and the humor and story seems charming and fun
Fun fact about the trailer for Bebe's Kids: it originally said "it's animation at its finest," but then they got sued for false advertising in the State of California. Because that was back in the day when California actually cared about that.
I have a theory with Teenage Kraken that the whole part where Chelsea (mermaid girl) says shes is a Kraken hiding as a human is more of a hallucination in Ruby's mind, and she is actually hiding, but from what Chelsea sees in Ruby's mind she isn't hiding. Especially with the blurring in the shot, and how no one reacts to this, it doesn't feel like this actually happened in the world of Teenage Kraken and more happened in Ruby's mind, or at least Ruby's appearance happened in her mind. We will see though.
I'm not as ecstatic as Across The Spider-Verse, but i'm definitely looking forward to Ruby Gillman. I'm really hoping after the excellent two-hit combo of The Bad Guys to Puss In Boots: The Last Wish that Gillman makes it three for three regarding DreamWorks' climb back to higher respect. Also trust me Mr. Enter, Cellspex is sick to death of single words titles as well and how little they tell you about the film itself.
@Hunter O'Laughlin "Star Light, Star Bright" could work. People like nursery rhymes. Also, if the film really does take place in Portugal, there's probably a styled Portuguese title they could use.
Honestly i feel like the spiderverse films are WAAYYY too stylised whoch makes it much harder to see whats actually going on in the backrounds and also feels much too overwhelming
I think I get what Mr. Enter is saying about how Dreamworks operates. It's like there's one or more guys with good ideas, but they have to share an office with a giant monster clown they don’t know how to say no to. So, they come up with ideas like How to Train Your Dragon or Kung Fu Panda, but then the giant monster clown starts bashing his desk with a giant inflatable squeaky hammer while shouting, “BOSS BABY! BOSS BABY!”
I mean, they've go to make stuff like boss baby and trolls every once in a while, otherwise they won't have the money for bangers like HTTYD, and Kung Fu Panda
After how dull lightyear was visually im actually pleased Pixar are going back to a more stylistic approach with their Design to Elementals. Far more interesting and visually dynamic approach.
It feels like after Soul they've been trending in a more stylized approach for their animation and Elemental seems to sort of continue that direction especially with the expressions on characters' faces. Lightyear feels like a holdover from an earlier era.
To be fair, given the direction they were going for with “Lightyear”, I can’t imagine how one could give a gritty sci-fi inspired by ‘80s action films a distinct animation style.
Actually no. It was created by Jeffery Katzenberg who was salty he wasn't immediately promoted to CEO right after the last one passed away, then tried to extort Pixar and John Lasseter during the production of a bugs life, and had their first movie completely rip off a bugs life. DreamWorks was literally created to dickride Disney/Pixar
Actually I invented dreamworks as a child to flex my skills. That’s why so many of my earlier movies suck cus I was still getting a feel for it, ya know what I’m sayin?
Saying the humans in Monsters vs Aliens looks off is a misunderstanding of what they were trying to do with the art direction in that one. It's style is an homage both to old sci-fi B movie monsters and old Horror comics.
I'm reminded of an interaction in Back to the Future when referring to going to the future at the end of the movie. "Does something happen to us? Do we turn into assholes or something?" "No, you and Suzy both turn out fine. But your kids, Marty - something's gotta be done about your kids!"
I like the storybook stylization of Wish, but I'm getting really tired of every Disney princess looking like a slightly altered version of the same model. Asha looks like Isabela mixed with Moana wearing Rapunzel's wardrobe. The freckles and braids don't do much to differentiate her.
Seeing the Elemental trailer made me feel like it's going to be a cliche Gacha Studio original with "Ignite" by Alan Walker playing in the background, turned cinematic with a budget.
The only non anime animation trailers that come to mind that didn’t make the movie look bad are The Mario Bros movie ones and the first Spiderverse trailer, the former because of how much they played it straight and daresay made it look more epic while the latter used a song from the soundtrack and set up the tone of the film all the way up to the reveal of Miles Morales.
I’m still very concerned about wish. They art style looks very appealing, but in the trailer I was practically saying the lines with these characters because we have heard these lines 1,000,000 times. Overall nice video. Edit: Another common I’d like to add, is that the water character’s in elemental is Wade. Like Wade in the water, and he’s played by a black actor. And Wade in the water is a slave song. Other than that elemental doesn’t look to to have any villain or anything jus another generational trauma story And the Teenage Cracken movie u gotta admit looks a million times better and a million times more interesting than the little mermaid 2023. At least it doesn’t look ugly as sin and not copying a story that is still being shown to people. Edit: I must be fucking crazy cuz the little mermaid 2023 was actually kinda ok
Wish is rumored to be a tribute to both Walt Disney the studio and the man for it's 100th anniversary. The familiar story and storybook look is probably very intentional.
Honestly, Despite what people have been saying about these movies so far I for one am actually looking forward to all of them. Because I for one am reserving judgement until I see the actual films and i don't quite understand why people are already thinking the movies are bad just from the trailers.
Because trailers are supposed to sell you on the movie and tell you what it's about. If you really dislike the trailer, then it isn't unreasonable to expect that you won't like the movie.
@@enzoqueijao its reasonable... if you have never thought about these two things, once you have compared these two to real detail (like me) youll realise just how diferent they actually are, one os for selling purelly and has no artistic goals whatsoever, and the other, while usually is the product to sell, does have at least some humanity put into it
Remember when classic Pixar’s trailer were made up entirely of original content and no clips from the movies. I wish more studios did that, let alone Pixar today.
I remember those trailers as a kid. Those were always fun. The last Pixar film I think that had a teaser trailer with original content was Soul. But yeah, I do wish Pixar could go back to that marketing strategy for their upcoming films.
Do you think wish is on the right track with Disney because people have praised the animation not to mention we're finally getting a new Disney villain
Out of these films, Teenage Kraken is the one I have the most hope for. I don't really care for Elemental and Wish's trailer made me a bit skeptical; although there some really talented people behind it.
I’m actually looking forward to Wish, for one simple fact, it is a movie that is the return of Disney Movies that had villains, with King Magnifico! I like Ruby Gillman the most though!
Most looking forward to Teenage Kraken, followed by Wish, then Elemental. Don't really like the idea of fighting against prejudice when the people in-universe have actual differences in biology that damage each other regardless of intent. Yes Ember, you really shouldn't fraternize with other elements because you can kill them by getting too close.
I am honestly looking way forward too wish because it gives me a nostalgic feeling as it reminds me of one of my favourite childhood films, Azur & Asmar: The Princes' Quest, and I am loving everything about that
Yeaaahh I'd love to see a remake of it because the CGI didn't age well, but it still has beautiful shots. It's hard to find someone who knows that movie
On the visual style of Teenage Kraken, i actually got more of an Aardman aesthetic (Wallace and Gromit) rather than Illuminnation, at least in terms of how the characters are designed. They have this noodle-esque anatomy and wide facial expressions, to the point where i get more reminded of them than anything, at least for alot of characters, the Ariel looking one is clearly more different, but even she has the noodle type of anatomy.
Wish does look good to me, artistically speaking. I still find it funny that Hispanics have been asking for a spanish princess for a while, and disney decided to finally set one fo these movies in Spain, only to have the princess be a Moor... Which is just a slap in the face if you know your history. Of course I don't watch Disney stuff anymore...
My take on these trailers: 1. Elementals: Unfortunately, the "elements don't mix" theme they're trying to push overshadows everything else about the movie, including the visuals. 2. Ruby Gillman: I'm getting typical teenage drama feels, but the animation and visual style matches that vibe, which actually makes it appealing. 3. Wish: the backdrops are pretty, but the main character acts like every cookie cutter tomboyish princess Disney has been releasing lately. She looks sort of different, but her personality seems like a carbon copy of everyone else's.
Honestly. . . I Don't care about Spoilers; As Someone who HATES Surprises and LOVES knowing what to expect ahead of time; Spoilers DO NOT Bother me at all. . . and As Such; I Don't mind seeing how Much of Ruby Gillman's story we see ahead of release!!!
The Wish trailer is a teaser trailer. It’s not bad, it does exactly what a teaser trailer should. Give you a sense of the atmosphere and story without actually showing anything of most significance.
I’m cautiously optimistic for all three of these. Each one has given me at least one thing to be excited about and at least one thing to be worried about. That said, I’m a lot less worried about the major animated films we’ve gotten trailers for, rather I’m more worried about the plethora of sequels that just got announced which I’m kinda dreading
I have no interest in the first. I know nothing about the second. However I have hope for Wish. Especially since it looks like a return to form with a traditional Disney villain and maybe a villain song.
I wonder if the teenage kraken part of her being human isn't actually what people see, but a scene from where not-ariel see's her. Either she can see through the disguise or she could imagine that she looks like that. Maybe the main character is blue because that's how she see's herself, despite being disguised. Hopefully it's not an animation error and instead explained in the movie because I really like the direction they're going with it.
I don’t mind romance, but… isn’t there a _bit_ of an issue with a water element and a fire element being a “thing?” Like, as in “this going to kill both of you” kind of thing?
In defense of Wish and the first Elemental trailer, they are listed as "Teaser" trailers, not full trailers. Teasers are only meant to give glimpses to what the film will look and sound like without giving away anything about the plot, or in other words, vague.
Trailer for “elemental” and when I did, I INSTANTLY knew what the movie was going to be about. I figured it when as soon as I heard the line their rule is “stick to your own kind” …. doesn’t THAT tell you what the movie’s morale is going to be? I’m not saying that it’s going to be bad but if they are going to make the morale THAT obvious it’s not much fun, I guess other Disney movies had pretty obvious message too, but they usually didn’t more or less spell it out in the trailer! Also, the animation look like it was unfished, at least for the water guy, but maybe that cause animating water is hard for CGI or something especially if it’s a figure. “Kraken” seems a little funner, like maybe not good but at least they are having fun with it and it looks like we’re are finally going to have a movie with a fun villain and not just a conflict with another character. “Wish” seems better than “elemental” at least I couldn’t tell what the morale what from seeing the trailer but not great…more standard Disney good where its entertaining but that’s about it. Still not sure if I’m going to see any of these, the Disney ones will be easer as I have Disney + and they will at least eventually come out on that kraken I’m still going to wait till it’s on demand or something. 8:09 yeah you're probably right 15:51 good I was missing that from disney
I think Wish looks pretty good, but I do think that I’ve personally thunk I’ve seen cell shaded animation done way better outside of video games. A couple examples are the probably obvious Spider Verse movies and the animations by the TH-camr Dead Sound (although that might be cheating because he does a 2D and 3D hybrid style). But I’m still more then happy to see more cell shaded films.
I really like the art style of the Dreamworks one. I find both the protatonist and the mermaid to be quite pretty, in a way Dreamworks rarely can handle. Heck, knowing you'd look at it was why I actually clicked on the video, to learn more since I'd seen only a couple pics before.
That's what I was thinking about too! It seems that Spider-Verse isn't the only animated film that changed animation forever, since Disney and Dreamworks wants to copy Smallfoot's character design with Strange World and Ruby Gillman!
I'm kinda worried of what teenage kraken is gonna be, it seems to present itself as something new and against the norm but it just looks so basic. Specially with the villain, the famous mean girl archetype has been done way better in many other media and the best of them shows why or how they are this way, instead of just being naturally biologically a famous mean girl.
5:43 Well, I mean it is a fire elemental infant, in the same way you wouldn't give said lighter fluid to a human infant, would YOU give a fire elemental infant milk, or regular water? It would kill the thing
I think the second elemental trailerwas worse received because of how generic it feels. A lot of people have been talking about how a lot of animated movies have the same sorta plot of "I have to be myself! But my family doesn't approve" sorta plot, which is a good message, dont get me wrong. But I think people in the first trailer were expecting a more wholesome romance rather than the generic garden variety personal growth plot. The trailer made the story seem so predictable when the first one left most of the story hidden and got people excited for what it COULD be
Elementals: I feel like there's a missed opportunity of having different Elements travel in different ways instead of all riding the same transit Cloud people: floating in the sky, riding "jet stream" routes Fire people: Sailing along lava tunnels on rafts/boats made of pumice Water people: travel through pipes. We saw Wade do that, but it was probably unintentional Disney Wish: I know that Disney wanted to stylize but I don't think it was worth it here as it looks more like for a tv show. And my theory for the villain is that he's going to be like Maxwell Lord from Wonder Woman 1984: he's abusing magic unaware that it works like "The Monkey's Paw"
16:05 As someone who has been to both Portugal and Spain, this doesn't look like the Iberian peninsula at all. Unless this takes place or is inspired by the past when the Moors invaded, this is a completely inaccurate setting. Disney should stick to making fantasy lands instead of historical settings.
Oh, it definitely looks like the Iberian Peninsula. Just a very specific part/time period of it. To be specific, this seems to be inspired by Moor-occupied Spain circa the 14th-15th century. The architecture shown in the trailer can still easily be found in many parts of Andalusia (Southern Spain), and they come from that time period. Specially the city of Granada in general, and the Alhambra in particular, seem to have been a large source of inspiration. The characters on the other hand... I mean, it's still supposed to be a fantasy kingdom, but I can imagine things will get... busy... when release date approaches.
I'm kinda meh about Elemental but I am looking forward to Teenage Kraken and Wish, I don't get the hate about Wish's art style as when I first saw the teaser it was something I immediately loved about it, it's something unique and I think it looks pretty good
Generational trauma plots are weird especially with movies that have, in theory, a different generational demographic target. Simply put the "generational trauma" that the creators of the movie experienced and understand is not the same as the audience will have and make it difficult for an audience to form a connection.
I actually really like the evil version of Ariel for teenage kraken because it is basically if the little mermaid was more accurate to all the ancient myths about mermaids and sirens. Until stuff like the little mermaid changed their image, mermaids were just like sirens. Beautiful half fish half women creatures that sang songs and used their beauty to lure men to their death.
Elemental looks like a really by the numbers and predictable plot. Ruby Gillman Teenage Kraken looks kind of interesting, and I find the main character to have a cute design This is my first time hearing about Wish Btw, after bringing up the "fat loser tries king fu" Made me think of Beverley Hills Ninja And Adam Sandler singing the Chris Farley song
I don't think it's the goat who looks wrong in Wish. It looks like the other characters. It's human who looks out of place. She just looks like a 3D model, while the other characters look like 2D characters. They move like 2D animation. That's where I see the comparison with Paperman. They pulled off making the humans look like cartoons, and not 3D models. They knew gradients were a bad idea.
I remember when the trailer for Coco came out, it looked like one giant Mexican stereotype and I wasn't interested. Then a Mexican friend of mine saw Coco and said that while he agreed with my opinion of the trailer, the movie itself was actually very culturally accurate. He was right. I no longer put any stock in trailers anymore.
Of the three, the only one I've actually heard of is Elemental. Looking at them all here, I think Teenage Kraken is the one I'll keep tabs on. I actually really like Ruby's design. Let's see what happens.
Here's some of my thoughts of these three films. 1.) Elemental -Thought the movie will be so boring by its premise, but the second trailer make it look more interesting? I might check this one out. 2.) Teenage Kraken -Looks fun as hell. The trailer showed a bit too much, but regardless, I'm excited for this one. 3.) Wish -Hasn't watch the full trailer, but seeing some of it, it looks kinda meh for me. Hope it does well enough though.
I'm Spanish. If you had told me years ago, I'd have been exited about a Spanish Disney princess. But now, especially after seeing what they did to South East Asians with Raya, I look at Wish with nothing but fear: "OMG, please, don't mess it up...". Not to mention Disney learnt nothing from the terribly offensive, racist and insulting short Ferdinand of 1938, because they haven't put one of their famous "outdated cultural references" tags. Also, what kind of name is Asha for a Spanish girl? Or, if this is supposed to be during the Al-Andalus era, Asha doesn't even sound Arabic (the Ummayads didn't come from Africa, they came from the Middle East). Why not calling her Azahara? That would have been a better choice. Besides, she doesn't even look Spanish or Arabic, by any means. Heck, Jasmine looked at least close to an Arabic woman (despite her terrible choice for an outfit). *sigh* Let's just hope Wish's story is good...
@@My-mind_me. At first watch nothing. At second watch, plotwise, the message about trust is delivered very poorly. Representation-wise, I've seen an Indonesian girl's video about many cultural aspects it gets wrong, and that she doesn't feel South East Asians who live in SEA were the actual target demographic of the film.
I am the most excited for Wish because we actually see a villain and I hope they stick to being the actual villain. Plus I loved Coco and Enchanto's style and themes of stars and wishes. Teenage Kraken i'm also interested in, not as a best seller like Puss in Booth just a cute teen movie flick that makes fun of Disney like Shrek did. Elemental is pretty cliche but honestly I love how the visual looks and aside from Toy story 4 we don't have an original Pixar film that focuses on romance also as someone who has generational trauma I should probably take a hint from the recent Pixar movies and work on healing it.
Just wanted to correct you on the Bebe's Kids trailer-the actual full trailer says "it's animation... with an attitude", hence why it sounds like there should be something after "it's animation" in the inflection-because there is.
I'm pretty with you, moreso than usual. I didn't have the same negative reaction so many people had to these trailers, and am also cautiously positive because I'm pretty good at reading between the lines with trailers, but I can't blame others for not having that figured out. Trailers are made to appeal to the general public and get interest from people otherwise uninterested, and the only one that gave people enough to go on gave too much away. I know it wasn't included in this particular discussion, but I feel the latest Spiderverse trailer also falls under "Showed too much." I will say that insofar as Wish goes, I'm going back and forth on the art style. It's pretty, and really nice to see Disney attempt, but it somehow feels as though something is missing, it feels just a touch flat. But I'm open to seeing more, and I'm glad that all three of these films have completely different visual styles.
I'm really sad wish didn't go full 2D. Between it being an anniversary film, the story centering around the wishing star from old movies, and the company expressing interest in possibly doing 2D again, this was the perfect chance for it.
I miss 2d movies so much :( I was hoping enchanted 2 would have the same animated style as enchanted but it had a shitty 2d cgi instead. I can’t even describe how sick I am of cgi. 3D and 2d skins on 3D cgi models.
Remember that the last 2D movie not based on an existing 2D series to not bomb was Lilo & Stitch...
@@Wiimeiser Yeah and the reason is bad marketing, or bad release schedules (see treasure planet) which Disney enforced to have an excuse to kill their 2D department.
I actually believe that Wish CAN SAVE 2D animation and it will come back soon after! Have some hope! (and wish for it 🌟!)
if it didn’t go 2D, i think it would’ve been cool for them to replicate the 2D style in 3D, kind of like charlie brown for those comic strips, puss in boots for children’s books, and spiderverse for comic books.
I remember having a theory about Elemental, which is that the whole idea of “elements don’t mix” is less about prejudice and possibly more about how commonality doesn’t really mean you belong together. Considering the main characters are literally fire and water, that does result in steam, but it also results in one of them disappearing. Perhaps the parents do actually say this out of concern that their daughter might end up hurt, and it would be interesting if the actual moral was that just because Ember and Wade can be friends doesn’t really mean they’re made for each other. They just like having each other‘s company.
I don't think that's it considering the director's comments, seems to be going for a full fledged romance inspired by his own.
@@billybarnett9518Oh boy, another Pixar film that seems like a self insert vent piece disguised as social allegory.
So like Alan and Carmen from The Amazing World of Gumball.
I saw a comment on a different video (probably the YMS reaction vid) that the movie would probably work a lot better if Ember and Wade were two elements on the periodic table that would actually make something dangerous if they mixed, like if they were chlorine and bromine or something. Then the movie could be about how two people can love each other, but not necessarily be good for each other.
As it is though, I feel like I can already predict the entire synopsis of this movie. "Romeo and Juliet with a touch of Strange World" is the best way to describe it
@@Commenter839 Nobody really wants to watch a movie where the couple "isn't good for each other". They wanna watch a movie with a happy ending, not even Soul had a downer ending.
Lesson to learn here:
Don’t judge animated projects based solely on their trailers.
Well Elemental is apparently good enough to debut at Cannes.
Although personally I have seen Wish with most positivity, but I don’t know where Mr Enter is seeing reactions.
Also Wish doesn’t even have a full trailer but a teaser. I don’t know why he didn’t mention that. You can’t judge a story by a teaser. It’s meant to raise awareness that the movie exists and some of the basic concepts (like what the main character looks like, what is the animation style and inform its a musical and plot has something to do with Wishes).
unless its velma
Don't judge ANYTHING based on only the trailers.
Okay, I've said it once, I'll say it agan: Wreck It Ralph does NOT have a twist villain. King Candy is clearly the antogonist right from the beginning, we're clued in directly almost immediately after meeting him, and his behavior throughout the movie does not change; he has a consistent personality. The only twist is WHO he actually is, not the fact that he's a villain, as in is the case with other twist villains.
Y.... Yeah... That's... What a twist villain is SUPPOSED to be. Just because the other DISNEY twist villains are shitty doesn't mean he isn't one, it's not a dump on wreck it ralph it's just a trope name
@Ath King Candy is not a "twist villain." The trope everyone is talking about with Disney's modern "twist villains" is the "Evil All Along" trope. A villain with a twist is not the same thing as a twist villain. King Candy being Turbo is just a regular reveal. The fact that he is evil is not hidden, which means that he isn't a "twist villain." He's just a villain, and there's a later reveal about him.
I mean, you're still not really right. King Candy is a peculiar case. He isn’t a "twist villain" (in the vein of more modern examples), but he is undoubtedly a villain with a twist. He is clearly an antagonist from the beginning - but, before the twist, it’s hard to imagine him as the film’s "true antagonist”, the "final boss" (if they truly even intended on successfully delivering a classical grand climax akin to older Disney films, that is). We mostly just see him as a smaller antagonist until the reveal.
The twist isn’t that he’s a villain, it’s that he is THE villain. Thus, calling him a "twist villain" still isn't at all off - it's just that the Disney films that came afterwards completely ruined the reputation of that character trope with plenty of poorly-executed and uninspired examples. It's not like modern Disney invented the twist villain - it's a classical trope that can find its way into narratives in various forms.
I agree. Still, this leaves Disney with just 2 films with villains (3 if you count Tamatoa's one scene in Moana) in 13 years. That is not a very good villain rate for sure. So just the presence of a villain is a note. But King Candy is definitely an obvious and delightful villain from the beginning with a fun motivation that gets more interesting as his backstory is revealed. Disney as a brand is practically built on villains (alongside incredible animation and music) though and the fact that they have had 2 (and Gothel was not very good either) since 2010 is pretty bad.
@CJ Cable Oh sure, totally. I'm not defending their villain rate. I miss the days of classic bombastic villains. I just don't like that people always lump Wreck It Ralph in with all the other movies that do this trope to death. Though I'm surprised you don't like Gothel. I thought she worked pretty well for that story.
After seeing movies like Lightyear attempt a somewhat realistic style of 3D animation, I’m glad to see something like Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken; which is much more stylized.
Well, Elemental also has a stylistic design with the living elements and isn’t trying to make them look realistic and going more for a 2D aesthetic.
@@hunterolaughlin and with wish having just a bad (not in bad like writen but just a evil to be evil villian with wish) maybe a turning point for disney
Well to be fair, with Lightyear the style fit the premise of if being an in universe live action sci fi movie.
What about Soul? It was also spectacularly realistic, and before Lightyear. More so because the movie's themes center around life.
While I’m not really a fan of the style of Ruby Gillman, but I appreciate that they tried to experiment with the style
Ruby trying to hide her Kraken identity while still having her blue skin is big Invader Zim energy
I mean the trailer does beat you over the head with "humans are stupid" just like Invader Zim. I do think if Ruby is a huge success, the "humans are too stupid to notice" trope could become overused in the long run like the twist villain trope.
It would actually be pretty funny if they leaned hard into that Zim oblivious human trope. I would genuinely laugh if Ruby explained away her blue skin as a "Skin condition."
even invader zim tried harder with the eye thingies and wig...ruby doesn't look remotely human lol
I feel that people give Teenage Kraken too much credit because Dreamworks had a hit with The Last Wish. Movies should never be judged by their studios, in my opinion.
It does remind people of old Dreamworks with the Ariel like villain.
Especially Sony Animation, when in 2018, a year after the disaster that was The Emoji Movie, they released Into the Spiderverse, which was actually very well received.
Yeah, especially when they're also releasing Trolls 3.
Last wish and The Bad Guys were hits I hope the hot streak continues but you never know.
@@jlev1028 Like em or not, Trolls are popular, can't say I blame DreamWorks.
I think my personal issue with Wish's art direction is, it feels like several different art styles mashed together into one in an inconsistent way. And it's not only with the visual appearance, but with the way characters move as well. Valentino the goat has exaggerated facial expressions and an angular design reminiscent of Djali from Hunchback of Notre Dame, but Asha's design is smoother, more realistic, closer to other CGI princesses. And the star doesn't even look like a Disney character, it looks more like something out of Adventure Time.
it feels like Disney is trying to capitalize on the success with mixing 2-D and 3-D animation, but they don’t really have a lot of heart behind it
It also just looks cheap. It looks like a show from Disney Channel. I think they also reduced the frame rate, but it's at a rate that feels weird, which again saves money.
not looking like a normal Disney character isn’t necessarily bad
@@fuckmylifewtf I wonder what the budget was
I don't like mixing 2D and 3D but if anything they should learn from spiderverse
Hot Take: I actually quite like Cars. I wouldn’t say it’s one of Pixar’s best films, but I enjoy it. I like how it features a Hot Shot having to get humbled by this small town in Arizona. And I enjoy the small-town America aesthetic, it’s something we don’t really see a whole lot of in animation.
Cars was my favorite movie as a kid, I still like it but that could be nostalgia
Oh me too! I loved it as a kid and used to collect the cars also I really like the songs used in it. It’s a simple story but it’s sweet and wholesome. Cars 2 was definitely dumb but it was entertaining enough with how chaotic it got
Me and my brother grew up on Cars. It's a great movie
I loved Cars 2 for the 007 references. Also I like Mater's character arc throughout the movie.
If you like cars then you'll love Doc Hollywood, it's the movie that cars ripped off.
The thumbnail for this video looks pretty cool. Pure warm colors with Ember from Elemental, a combo of warm and cool with the mermaid in the center, and pure cool tones on the end with Asha from Wish. It's like a gentle gradient despite all the colors being so vivid and also being opposite.
That's true! Look really nice!
My issues with Elemental can be mostly summed up with it's catch phrase. "Elements do not mix". In Zootopia they were separated mostly due to preference and convenience, but in elemental they are separated by necessity. The trailer shows a fire person bumping into a plant person and burning them up. Those issues aren't easily overcome and playing them off as trivial feels cheep.
There's also the entire "why do you let anyone tell you what to do" narrative. It is aggressively irreverent of everything that came before. Why don't you walk in the street or drink bleach? Sometimes there's a good reason people tell you not to do things. Taking it as gospel without thinking isn't good, but neither is rejecting it out of hand. It seems to be saying 'your parents are stupid, don't listen to them' and that rubs me the wrong way. If it was 'your parents can be wrong and you should think for yourself' that would be another thing entirely.
Recently they changed it to water and fire cannot mix, I feel that it makes more sense. And Wade says that to the protagonist because she is an adult woman and she doesn’t go outside of where they live only because her dad forbids her. I think that is a good point, when you grow up you can go out and go everywhere you want if you are responsible and you are already a mature person that knows how to discern good from bad. If she was a teenager or too young I would see what you said but I feel that it is very implied that she is a full grown adult woman.
And I can tell you that there are parents that still tell their daughters what they can and can’t do in their 25’s or 30’s and it is not related to safety, is control or excessive protection.
What I find weird is that the analogy of different people mixing don’t work so well in this setting. Because there are real motives why people can’t mix, fire burns earth, water puts out fire etc… In our real life mixing with other people of different ethnicities and cultures is not that hard if you get rid of the prejudice. Because we are mostly the same, we are not made of different substances that interact negatively.
And if your ok with genocide sure go ahead mix groups of people outta Existence
I'm in full support of these 3 upcoming projects, since what really matters is that they're all original, and definitely not a live action remake of something that already exists. I can also accept adaptations from books, video games, etc, as long as it stays faithful to the source material, like the Bad Guys or the Super Mario Bros Movie
Or The Last Wish or Into the Spiderverse.
So everything is fine which is not a live-action remake?
Elemental is not "original", it's the literal exact formula every one of their movies has followed for years. He's X, she's Y, "what if (concept) had their own society".
I bet if wish becomes somewhat a success (even a small one) they will live action it in 3 to 5 years. Heck, I bet frozen did not get live action adopted yet cause its merch still makes too much cash
Is this how low the bar is now?
My thoughts on each:
* Elemental sounds pretty boring.
* DreamWorks is giving Disney another middle finger.
* I'm skeptic towards Wish. Cynicalism is unhealthy.
I couldn't agree more with all of your points...
Elemental is supposed to be a coming of age type story inspired by the director's experience as an immigrant and marrying a woman who isn't Korean. The shop likely represents the shop his family owned in the Bronx.
@@billybarnett9518 I mean look...I understand that...He wanted to make a movie about his personal events and such but...This is marketed for children...If anything, that story is not gonna be fun for them...Ya know what I mean?
@@NightLordJagonYou think kids aren't going to have fun watching a movie about living elements interacting with each other in a unique looking city?
@@NightLordJagon Perhaps, but Pixar has made a lot of movies that aren't strictly for kids. Incredibles 1 had realistic adult dialogues.
I like teenage kraken the most stylistically.
I also have to commend DreamWorks for doing what Pixar does and looking to more modestly famous actors for the main casts of their newer movies like Lana Condor or Sam Rockwell on The Bad Guys instead of over relying on capital A-list actors
Same
Yeah elemental is really pretty looking too
The people in the teenage kraken look like the ones in onward
I kind of thought it took place in the hot dog finger universe from Everything Everywhere All At Once, since everybody seems to have those super wavy long fingers! But yeah it does look pretty interesting style-wise, the humans are a little generic looking for my taste but Ruby and Chelsea have some nice character designs.
One thing you have to give DreamWorks: they do always stylize their films. Every franchise has a distinct style of their own, for better (Kung Fu Panda) or worse (Shark Tale).
As far as Wish goes, probably the one of the three I'm most intrigued by, and I think the trailer being vague helped that. The storybook style is one I enjoy immensely and it kinda reminds me of early Disney films where they started by opening a storybook. Also, I do have to make a tiny comparison here to Song of the Sea, which had a watercolor effect.
I actually LIKE Ruby Gilliman's aesthetics and designed. They're more cartoony and are gonna be a breath of fresh air from the modern 'stock CG character' TM that especially Disney is guilty off. I mean ALL their characters look the same nowadays. It's nice to see animators being able to play around and be more creative for change.
In my opinion, it gives the movie an aesthetic and recognisable trait. The way Disney makes their humans is almost uniform like, and boring. Characterless
What Teenage Cracken is doing makes this move have that dash of personality. And best of all, the characters are stylised to have a personality.i wish this movie is a success, just to rub salt in the wound of Disney for remaking movies with no good changes
Keep in mind about Wish, it's the teaser trailer, not the full trailer. Frozen's teaser trailer only showed Sven and Olaf on a lake. Encanto's teaser trailer only showed the butterfly. Frankly I'm surprised Wish's teaser trailer showed as much as it did.
Teenage Kraken looks the most promising out of all 3 trailers, one reason I say this is because the trailer for Puss in Boots: The Last Wish felt exactly like the movie did when I saw it in theaters. The story, the characters, the visuals, everything felt properly advertised in comparison to the actual movie. I’m not saying there’s any guarantee that Teenage Kraken will be the next awesome Dreamworks movie, but with the trailer itself and how Puss in Boots: The Last Wish was advertised, it seems likely that Teenage Kraken will do well, especially in comparison to Disney’s The Little Mermaid remake that 90% of critics and audiences aren’t excited for from its trailer.
Hopefully Little Mermaid Reimagined (because Geez I have to create my own fan titles to seperate from the original title) flops and tells Disney that these remakes cant be your only solution to cash
Wish was only a teaser trailer. It's only meant to intrigue you about what's to come. Who knows, it could be an absolutely fantastic film.
Honestly part of me wants to see the Ruby Gilman movie since it seems like a middle finger to Disney's live action remake to a movie that wasn't broken but they felt the need to fix anyway and at least it's an original animated IP.
@@Thomasmemoryscentralwell it didn't so stay mad
You have a good point. When you see a trailer that calls your attention you go to the cinema. And if the movie feels the same way the people are going to end satisfied because they got what they saw.
Wish only has a *teaser* trailer at the moment. I reckon the official trailer(s) which I'm assuming will be shown in a few months will actually give us an idea of the main premise. And I'm excited!
Okay, I really like the trailer, but the fact that I loved the art style in Sofia the First and Elena of Avalor really helped with that.
Elemental, to me, looks like a Disney short film extended into an hour long one. I hope it has some actual twist that the trailer didn't spoil, but I'm not too optimistic on that.
I really want Teenage Kraken to be great.
I had not even heard of Wish yet.
Well the teaser trailer for wish has got some positive feedback because it looks like a generic Disney film good because he has mostly been making Star Wars and Marvel and live-action remakes which have not been doing so well that's why I'm glad they're working on originals like element and wish because it sound like Disney is trying to go back to basic
I'll say that right now, Elemental just looks, predictable. I'm hoping there's something that we're not expecting, but right now, it just looks like you're run of the mill Romeo and Juliet story
@@animezilla4486 I'm sure soon they will be make live action of the wish and the elemental just like they are doing it to moana
I’m actually excited for Teenage Kraken 🦑 it seems like a return to form with Dreamworks Disney parodies and the humor and story seems charming and fun
Fun fact about the trailer for Bebe's Kids: it originally said "it's animation at its finest," but then they got sued for false advertising in the State of California. Because that was back in the day when California actually cared about that.
Upon first glance, Teenage Kraken seems more like Luca than The Little Mermaid
Yeah,but different
@@alexhernandez7597 less Italian, for sure
@normanclatcher except Luca doesn't have a fight with mermaids
@@alexhernandez7597 You and I must remember Luca very differently if you think that's what I meant.
@@normanclatcher oh no, I know what you mean
I have a theory with Teenage Kraken that the whole part where Chelsea (mermaid girl) says shes is a Kraken hiding as a human is more of a hallucination in Ruby's mind, and she is actually hiding, but from what Chelsea sees in Ruby's mind she isn't hiding. Especially with the blurring in the shot, and how no one reacts to this, it doesn't feel like this actually happened in the world of Teenage Kraken and more happened in Ruby's mind, or at least Ruby's appearance happened in her mind. We will see though.
I'm not as ecstatic as Across The Spider-Verse, but i'm definitely looking forward to Ruby Gillman. I'm really hoping after the excellent two-hit combo of The Bad Guys to Puss In Boots: The Last Wish that Gillman makes it three for three regarding DreamWorks' climb back to higher respect.
Also trust me Mr. Enter, Cellspex is sick to death of single words titles as well and how little they tell you about the film itself.
Well, what would you name Wish?
@hunterolaughlin, If I had seen the movie then I would have an answer to that but unfortunately it’s not out yet for me to say
@Hunter O'Laughlin "Star Light, Star Bright" could work. People like nursery rhymes.
Also, if the film really does take place in Portugal, there's probably a styled Portuguese title they could use.
Honestly i feel like the spiderverse films are WAAYYY too stylised whoch makes it much harder to see whats actually going on in the backrounds and also feels much too overwhelming
elemental actually turned out to be good. damn
I think I get what Mr. Enter is saying about how Dreamworks operates. It's like there's one or more guys with good ideas, but they have to share an office with a giant monster clown they don’t know how to say no to. So, they come up with ideas like How to Train Your Dragon or Kung Fu Panda, but then the giant monster clown starts bashing his desk with a giant inflatable squeaky hammer while shouting, “BOSS BABY! BOSS BABY!”
That would explain how the Script for Bee Movie got approved
Dreamworks has a tendency to wanna make things for really little kids too.
I mean, they've go to make stuff like boss baby and trolls every once in a while, otherwise they won't have the money for bangers like HTTYD, and Kung Fu Panda
I don’t know, there it has been forever since Prince of Egypt and while from other important work. So best people might not be there.
I get where that analogy is from, Zero Punctuation.
After how dull lightyear was visually im actually pleased Pixar are going back to a more stylistic approach with their Design to Elementals. Far more interesting and visually dynamic approach.
It feels like after Soul they've been trending in a more stylized approach for their animation and Elemental seems to sort of continue that direction especially with the expressions on characters' faces. Lightyear feels like a holdover from an earlier era.
To be fair, given the direction they were going for with “Lightyear”, I can’t imagine how one could give a gritty sci-fi inspired by ‘80s action films a distinct animation style.
8:36 Dreamworks was literally created by former Disney employee to SPITE Disney so if it WAS a coincidence, they’re happy about it
Actually no. It was created by Jeffery Katzenberg who was salty he wasn't immediately promoted to CEO right after the last one passed away, then tried to extort Pixar and John Lasseter during the production of a bugs life, and had their first movie completely rip off a bugs life. DreamWorks was literally created to dickride Disney/Pixar
Actually I invented dreamworks as a child to flex my skills. That’s why so many of my earlier movies suck cus I was still getting a feel for it, ya know what I’m sayin?
Wish was a TEASER trailer. They're not supposed to give you the main plot! They're supposed to intrigue you about what it's going to be.
Saying the humans in Monsters vs Aliens looks off is a misunderstanding of what they were trying to do with the art direction in that one. It's style is an homage both to old sci-fi B movie monsters and old Horror comics.
I'm reminded of an interaction in Back to the Future when referring to going to the future at the end of the movie.
"Does something happen to us? Do we turn into assholes or something?"
"No, you and Suzy both turn out fine. But your kids, Marty - something's
gotta be done about your kids!"
Great quote from a great movie, but I'm not sure how it connects to Mr. Enter's video
@@Lobstro I'm referring to the parental trauma.
Jennifer, not Suzy.
@@TheLobsterCopter5000 I used a ripped screenplay so that's explains the inconsistency.
Suzy?
I like the storybook stylization of Wish, but I'm getting really tired of every Disney princess looking like a slightly altered version of the same model. Asha looks like Isabela mixed with Moana wearing Rapunzel's wardrobe. The freckles and braids don't do much to differentiate her.
Seeing the Elemental trailer made me feel like it's going to be a cliche Gacha Studio original with "Ignite" by Alan Walker playing in the background, turned cinematic with a budget.
Releasing a Little Mermaid parody in the same year as a Little Mermaid remake is a very Dreamworks thing to do.
Out of these 3 films, I'm excited for Ruby Gillman the most.
The only non anime animation trailers that come to mind that didn’t make the movie look bad are The Mario Bros movie ones and the first Spiderverse trailer, the former because of how much they played it straight and daresay made it look more epic while the latter used a song from the soundtrack and set up the tone of the film all the way up to the reveal of Miles Morales.
I disagree with all trailers for animated projects sucking, as the one Peter Cullen voiced for _The Iron Giant_ was pretty badass.
I just disagree period. I’ve definitely seen good trailers for both animated movies and shows.
I’m still very concerned about wish. They art style looks very appealing, but in the trailer I was practically saying the lines with these characters because we have heard these lines 1,000,000 times. Overall nice video.
Edit: Another common I’d like to add, is that the water character’s in elemental is Wade. Like Wade in the water, and he’s played by a black actor. And Wade in the water is a slave song. Other than that elemental doesn’t look to to have any villain or anything jus another generational trauma story
And the Teenage Cracken movie u gotta admit looks a million times better and a million times more interesting than the little mermaid 2023. At least it doesn’t look ugly as sin and not copying a story that is still being shown to people.
Edit: I must be fucking crazy cuz the little mermaid 2023 was actually kinda ok
That is mildly concerning indeed
Wish is rumored to be a tribute to both Walt Disney the studio and the man for it's 100th anniversary. The familiar story and storybook look is probably very intentional.
I'd wait on jumping the gun for Wish so soon. We just saw the first teaser, usually those are all "songs" as you say
(On the elemental thing) THATS CRAZY AINT NO WAY THEY GOT AWAY WITH THAT 💀💀💀... if that's not on purpose that is unfortunate.
@@jjju3 true
The only thing about Elemental I’m excited about is the soundtrack. It’s composed by Thomas Newman and I’m hyped to hear it
Honestly, Despite what people have been saying about these movies so far I for one am actually looking forward to all of them. Because I for one am reserving judgement until I see the actual films and i don't quite understand why people are already thinking the movies are bad just from the trailers.
Because trailers are supposed to sell you on the movie and tell you what it's about. If you really dislike the trailer, then it isn't unreasonable to expect that you won't like the movie.
@@enzoqueijao its reasonable... if you have never thought about these two things, once you have compared these two to real detail (like me) youll realise just how diferent they actually are, one os for selling purelly and has no artistic goals whatsoever, and the other, while usually is the product to sell, does have at least some humanity put into it
Remember when classic Pixar’s trailer were made up entirely of original content and no clips from the movies. I wish more studios did that, let alone Pixar today.
I remember those trailers as a kid. Those were always fun. The last Pixar film I think that had a teaser trailer with original content was Soul. But yeah, I do wish Pixar could go back to that marketing strategy for their upcoming films.
Teenage Kraken looks fun, I have no opinions on Wish, and Elemental looks like it’s going to start a lot of arguments online
Do you think wish is on the right track with Disney because people have praised the animation not to mention we're finally getting a new Disney villain
@@animezilla4486 Yes
Out of these films, Teenage Kraken is the one I have the most hope for. I don't really care for Elemental and Wish's trailer made me a bit skeptical; although there some really talented people behind it.
My thoughts on these trailers.
Elemental: Looks beautiful.
Teenage Kraken: The trailer spoiled too much.
Wish: Seems decent.
It’s like an early Summer Vacation when Enter posts!
I’m actually looking forward to Wish, for one simple fact, it is a movie that is the return of Disney Movies that had villains, with King Magnifico!
I like Ruby Gillman the most though!
Most looking forward to Teenage Kraken, followed by Wish, then Elemental.
Don't really like the idea of fighting against prejudice when the people in-universe have actual differences in biology that damage each other regardless of intent.
Yes Ember, you really shouldn't fraternize with other elements because you can kill them by getting too close.
I am honestly looking way forward too wish because it gives me a nostalgic feeling as it reminds me of one of my favourite childhood films, Azur & Asmar: The Princes' Quest, and I am loving everything about that
Yeaaahh I'd love to see a remake of it because the CGI didn't age well, but it still has beautiful shots. It's hard to find someone who knows that movie
On the visual style of Teenage Kraken, i actually got more of an Aardman aesthetic (Wallace and Gromit) rather than Illuminnation, at least in terms of how the characters are designed. They have this noodle-esque anatomy and wide facial expressions, to the point where i get more reminded of them than anything, at least for alot of characters, the Ariel looking one is clearly more different, but even she has the noodle type of anatomy.
I'm writing a book that is a dedication and harsh criticism towards Disney. Wish me luck!
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Is everyone forgetting that the "trailer" for Wish was just a teaser??
Wish does look good to me, artistically speaking. I still find it funny that Hispanics have been asking for a spanish princess for a while, and disney decided to finally set one fo these movies in Spain, only to have the princess be a Moor... Which is just a slap in the face if you know your history.
Of course I don't watch Disney stuff anymore...
My take on these trailers:
1. Elementals: Unfortunately, the "elements don't mix" theme they're trying to push overshadows everything else about the movie, including the visuals.
2. Ruby Gillman: I'm getting typical teenage drama feels, but the animation and visual style matches that vibe, which actually makes it appealing.
3. Wish: the backdrops are pretty, but the main character acts like every cookie cutter tomboyish princess Disney has been releasing lately. She looks sort of different, but her personality seems like a carbon copy of everyone else's.
Honestly. . . I Don't care about Spoilers; As Someone who HATES Surprises and LOVES knowing what to expect ahead of time; Spoilers DO NOT Bother me at all. . . and As Such; I Don't mind seeing how Much of Ruby Gillman's story we see ahead of release!!!
Your life is a surprise. Cue mic drop 😎
@@kyperactive SCREW YOU!
The Wish trailer is a teaser trailer. It’s not bad, it does exactly what a teaser trailer should. Give you a sense of the atmosphere and story without actually showing anything of most significance.
I'm most excited for Wish tbh it looks beautiful
Tell me about it
I’m cautiously optimistic for all three of these. Each one has given me at least one thing to be excited about and at least one thing to be worried about. That said, I’m a lot less worried about the major animated films we’ve gotten trailers for, rather I’m more worried about the plethora of sequels that just got announced which I’m kinda dreading
I had the EXACT SAME critique with the Teenage Kraken trailer. I feel like I watched the ENTIRE movie already, and Im so disappointed by it.
I have no interest in the first. I know nothing about the second. However I have hope for Wish. Especially since it looks like a return to form with a traditional Disney villain and maybe a villain song.
Technically, Wish’s trailer is actually the teaser trailer. They haven’t released the official trailer yet.
I wonder if the teenage kraken part of her being human isn't actually what people see, but a scene from where not-ariel see's her. Either she can see through the disguise or she could imagine that she looks like that. Maybe the main character is blue because that's how she see's herself, despite being disguised.
Hopefully it's not an animation error and instead explained in the movie because I really like the direction they're going with it.
Teenage Kraken will either be a good film that has a toxic Deviantart fandom, or a bad film that will have a toxic Deviantart fandom.
I don’t mind romance, but… isn’t there a _bit_ of an issue with a water element and a fire element being a “thing?” Like, as in “this going to kill both of you” kind of thing?
In defense of Wish and the first Elemental trailer, they are listed as "Teaser" trailers, not full trailers. Teasers are only meant to give glimpses to what the film will look and sound like without giving away anything about the plot, or in other words, vague.
I think all three look pretty good 🤷♀️
Trailer for “elemental” and when I did, I INSTANTLY knew what the movie was going to be about. I figured it when as soon as I heard the line their rule is “stick to your own kind” …. doesn’t THAT tell you what the movie’s morale is going to be? I’m not saying that it’s going to be bad but if they are going to make the morale THAT obvious it’s not much fun, I guess other Disney movies had pretty obvious message too, but they usually didn’t more or less spell it out in the trailer! Also, the animation look like it was unfished, at least for the water guy, but maybe that cause animating water is hard for CGI or something especially if it’s a figure. “Kraken” seems a little funner, like maybe not good but at least they are having fun with it and it looks like we’re are finally going to have a movie with a fun villain and not just a conflict with another character. “Wish” seems better than “elemental” at least I couldn’t tell what the morale what from seeing the trailer but not great…more standard Disney good where its entertaining but that’s about it.
Still not sure if I’m going to see any of these, the Disney ones will be easer as I have Disney + and they will at least eventually come out on that kraken I’m still going to wait till it’s on demand or something.
8:09 yeah you're probably right
15:51 good I was missing that from disney
I think Wish looks pretty good, but I do think that I’ve personally thunk I’ve seen cell shaded animation done way better outside of video games. A couple examples are the probably obvious Spider Verse movies and the animations by the TH-camr Dead Sound (although that might be cheating because he does a 2D and 3D hybrid style). But I’m still more then happy to see more cell shaded films.
I really like the art style of the Dreamworks one. I find both the protatonist and the mermaid to be quite pretty, in a way Dreamworks rarely can handle. Heck, knowing you'd look at it was why I actually clicked on the video, to learn more since I'd seen only a couple pics before.
9:03 Illumination? It gives me more vibes of Small Foot than Illumination in terms of character designs
That's what I was thinking about too! It seems that Spider-Verse isn't the only animated film that changed animation forever, since Disney and Dreamworks wants to copy Smallfoot's character design with Strange World and Ruby Gillman!
I'm kinda worried of what teenage kraken is gonna be, it seems to present itself as something new and against the norm but it just looks so basic. Specially with the villain, the famous mean girl archetype has been done way better in many other media and the best of them shows why or how they are this way, instead of just being naturally biologically a famous mean girl.
the mario movie trailer was actually good, better then the actual movie
What about the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie?
When I saw Teenage Kraken trailer, I was really baffled at how it embodied concept of "trailer that summarizes entire movie"
Wish looks cute. It kind of looks like a semi return to the old fairytale movies that made Disney famous.
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Well, I mean it is a fire elemental infant, in the same way you wouldn't give said lighter fluid to a human infant, would YOU give a fire elemental infant milk, or regular water? It would kill the thing
Kraken is the only one whose caught my interest of them. Likely won't see it but it's still the one I'd like the most
The only thing I'm excited for with Elemental is that I'm gonna 😙🍃🌬 and enjoy the visuals wahaha.
I think the second elemental trailerwas worse received because of how generic it feels.
A lot of people have been talking about how a lot of animated movies have the same sorta plot of "I have to be myself! But my family doesn't approve" sorta plot, which is a good message, dont get me wrong.
But I think people in the first trailer were expecting a more wholesome romance rather than the generic garden variety personal growth plot. The trailer made the story seem so predictable when the first one left most of the story hidden and got people excited for what it COULD be
Elementals: I feel like there's a missed opportunity of having different Elements travel in different ways instead of all riding the same transit
Cloud people: floating in the sky, riding "jet stream" routes
Fire people: Sailing along lava tunnels on rafts/boats made of pumice
Water people: travel through pipes. We saw Wade do that, but it was probably unintentional
Disney Wish: I know that Disney wanted to stylize but I don't think it was worth it here as it looks more like for a tv show. And my theory for the villain is that he's going to be like Maxwell Lord from Wonder Woman 1984: he's abusing magic unaware that it works like "The Monkey's Paw"
16:05 As someone who has been to both Portugal and Spain, this doesn't look like the Iberian peninsula at all. Unless this takes place or is inspired by the past when the Moors invaded, this is a completely inaccurate setting. Disney should stick to making fantasy lands instead of historical settings.
Oh, it definitely looks like the Iberian Peninsula. Just a very specific part/time period of it. To be specific, this seems to be inspired by Moor-occupied Spain circa the 14th-15th century. The architecture shown in the trailer can still easily be found in many parts of Andalusia (Southern Spain), and they come from that time period. Specially the city of Granada in general, and the Alhambra in particular, seem to have been a large source of inspiration.
The characters on the other hand...
I mean, it's still supposed to be a fantasy kingdom, but I can imagine things will get... busy... when release date approaches.
I'm kinda meh about Elemental but I am looking forward to Teenage Kraken and Wish, I don't get the hate about Wish's art style as when I first saw the teaser it was something I immediately loved about it, it's something unique and I think it looks pretty good
Generational trauma plots are weird especially with movies that have, in theory, a different generational demographic target. Simply put the "generational trauma" that the creators of the movie experienced and understand is not the same as the audience will have and make it difficult for an audience to form a connection.
I'm actually looking forward to Elemental. Don't know about the story yet, but it's design, style, and harmony definitely caught my interest.
Okay, but that eyebrow raise from the goat actually got a chuckle out of me. That might say more about me than the movie though.
Oh, they know *EXACTLY* what they're doing with Chelsea's design... 😉
I actually really like the evil version of Ariel for teenage kraken because it is basically if the little mermaid was more accurate to all the ancient myths about mermaids and sirens. Until stuff like the little mermaid changed their image, mermaids were just like sirens. Beautiful half fish half women creatures that sang songs and used their beauty to lure men to their death.
Elemental looks like a really by the numbers and predictable plot.
Ruby Gillman Teenage Kraken looks kind of interesting, and I find the main character to have a cute design
This is my first time hearing about Wish
Btw, after bringing up the "fat loser tries king fu"
Made me think of Beverley Hills Ninja
And Adam Sandler singing the Chris Farley song
Can you predict how the 2 will stay together in Elemental?
I don't think it's the goat who looks wrong in Wish. It looks like the other characters. It's human who looks out of place. She just looks like a 3D model, while the other characters look like 2D characters. They move like 2D animation.
That's where I see the comparison with Paperman. They pulled off making the humans look like cartoons, and not 3D models. They knew gradients were a bad idea.
I'm really excited about episode 200
Oh absolutely
I remember when the trailer for Coco came out, it looked like one giant Mexican stereotype and I wasn't interested. Then a Mexican friend of mine saw Coco and said that while he agreed with my opinion of the trailer, the movie itself was actually very culturally accurate. He was right. I no longer put any stock in trailers anymore.
I do agree with you on the visuals for wish. It makes the movie look pretty, and I’m glad that someone is taking a more positive spin on these movies
Of the three, the only one I've actually heard of is Elemental.
Looking at them all here, I think Teenage Kraken is the one I'll keep tabs on. I actually really like Ruby's design. Let's see what happens.
Here's some of my thoughts of these three films.
1.) Elemental -Thought the movie will be so boring by its premise, but the second trailer make it look more interesting? I might check this one out.
2.) Teenage Kraken -Looks fun as hell. The trailer showed a bit too much, but regardless, I'm excited for this one.
3.) Wish -Hasn't watch the full trailer, but seeing some of it, it looks kinda meh for me. Hope it does well enough though.
Im most excited for Wish!
Me too
I'm Spanish. If you had told me years ago, I'd have been exited about a Spanish Disney princess. But now, especially after seeing what they did to South East Asians with Raya, I look at Wish with nothing but fear: "OMG, please, don't mess it up...". Not to mention Disney learnt nothing from the terribly offensive, racist and insulting short Ferdinand of 1938, because they haven't put one of their famous "outdated cultural references" tags. Also, what kind of name is Asha for a Spanish girl? Or, if this is supposed to be during the Al-Andalus era, Asha doesn't even sound Arabic (the Ummayads didn't come from Africa, they came from the Middle East). Why not calling her Azahara? That would have been a better choice. Besides, she doesn't even look Spanish or Arabic, by any means. Heck, Jasmine looked at least close to an Arabic woman (despite her terrible choice for an outfit). *sigh* Let's just hope Wish's story is good...
Their look seems more South American than Iberian. Classic ignorance of Americans who see everything from their home fence.
and what is wrong with raya?
@@My-mind_me. At first watch nothing. At second watch, plotwise, the message about trust is delivered very poorly. Representation-wise, I've seen an Indonesian girl's video about many cultural aspects it gets wrong, and that she doesn't feel South East Asians who live in SEA were the actual target demographic of the film.
@@hispanicwitch4929 hmmm thats a different view of things. Thx for telling me
@@My-mind_me. You're welcome. ;)
I am the most excited for Wish because we actually see a villain and I hope they stick to being the actual villain. Plus I loved Coco and Enchanto's style and themes of stars and wishes.
Teenage Kraken i'm also interested in, not as a best seller like Puss in Booth just a cute teen movie flick that makes fun of Disney like Shrek did.
Elemental is pretty cliche but honestly I love how the visual looks and aside from Toy story 4 we don't have an original Pixar film that focuses on romance also as someone who has generational trauma I should probably take a hint from the recent Pixar movies and work on healing it.
Just wanted to correct you on the Bebe's Kids trailer-the actual full trailer says "it's animation... with an attitude", hence why it sounds like there should be something after "it's animation" in the inflection-because there is.
I’ve literally seen more promotion for Elio, which comes out next year, than Teenage Kraken, which comes out in two weeks.
I'm pretty with you, moreso than usual.
I didn't have the same negative reaction so many people had to these trailers, and am also cautiously positive because I'm pretty good at reading between the lines with trailers, but I can't blame others for not having that figured out.
Trailers are made to appeal to the general public and get interest from people otherwise uninterested, and the only one that gave people enough to go on gave too much away. I know it wasn't included in this particular discussion, but I feel the latest Spiderverse trailer also falls under "Showed too much."
I will say that insofar as Wish goes, I'm going back and forth on the art style. It's pretty, and really nice to see Disney attempt, but it somehow feels as though something is missing, it feels just a touch flat.
But I'm open to seeing more, and I'm glad that all three of these films have completely different visual styles.