Divorcing a King - Eleanor of Aquitaine - European History - Part 1 - Extra History

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    April, 1137 Paris. Elenor of Aquitaine's father has died and King Louis has the PERFECT husband for her. His own heir to the throne, Louis the VII! Who quickly becomes smitten with the young girl but after angering the pope, fighting in a crusade, and having a few daughters the young couple's relationship is on rocks. Good thing Eleanor has the perfect solution for them, Divorce!
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  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +198

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    • @winestatue
      @winestatue ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sup extra credits

    • @phantom765
      @phantom765 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OMG I LOVE THIS CHANNEL, No other historty shannel makes me feel so much glee to learn.

    • @NuclearTzar
      @NuclearTzar ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a question are yall able to do a episode on the Taiping rebellion?

    • @robertjarman3703
      @robertjarman3703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hum, Eleanor and her uncle being controversial? Really? In the time when the Holy Roman Empire was a thing? The only thing that was off limits for them was clones having sex.

    • @SafavidAfsharid3197
      @SafavidAfsharid3197 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey can you make a series on akber or Man Singh or Peshwa bajirao?

  • @UrpleSquirrel
    @UrpleSquirrel ปีที่แล้ว +2070

    Thanks for acknowledging that the supposed affair between Eleanor and her uncle was basically just her being excited to spend time with someone who acted "normally".

    • @NinjaGrrrl7734
      @NinjaGrrrl7734 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Normanly, you say?

    • @haven_lady675
      @haven_lady675 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Who wouldn't greet their family?

    • @cutekoala5492
      @cutekoala5492 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      There was no affair

    • @NinjaGrrrl7734
      @NinjaGrrrl7734 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@cutekoala5492 I am dying to know how you plan to prove this assertion. I eagerly await your receipts.

    • @ryanizcool3370
      @ryanizcool3370 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      To be fair, knowing how often people in relationships accuse each other of things they are doing themselves. It seems odd that she would suggest annulment for being too closely related. Unless of course she was having relations with a family member, then it would make sense.

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef27669 ปีที่แล้ว +1169

    Ok, in one episode we got a prince killed by a pig, a church burning with 1200 innocent lives, a crusade disastrous even for the average results of those expeditions, pirates, a Pope serving as a matchmaker, and a divorce happening before Henry VIII.
    Ah, the Medieval times...

    • @Oxtocoatl13
      @Oxtocoatl13 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Divorces were always possible in the Catholic church, if there were reasonable grounds. Nobles often, like Eleanor here, claimed they were too closely related, while not being able to procreate was also a legitimate reason. IIRC there was a court case in England where a wife sought divorce on the grounds that her husband was impotent, and the court assigned three women to attempt to arouse him. The women verified the wife's claims and divorce was granted. The reason Henry VIII was so pissed was that he didn't get one, even though he thought he had a good case.

    • @jaimepujol5507
      @jaimepujol5507 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@Oxtocoatl13 Tecnically not a divorce because the Catholic Church does not allow divorces. The loophole is annulment, by which they say that proper-official-forrealsies marriage never happened and so is invalid, which is why they have to ask the Pope permission

    • @Snowthree
      @Snowthree ปีที่แล้ว +19

      We still are lacking a horse becoming Emperor of Rome for a proper CKII experience.

    • @Galaick
      @Galaick ปีที่แล้ว +8

      In Medieval France, just another Tuesday

    • @roidrannoc1691
      @roidrannoc1691 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Technically a king killed by a pig... Philip was a Junior King, so even if he never ruled since he died before his father, he was still a king!

  • @prestonjones1653
    @prestonjones1653 ปีที่แล้ว +662

    Fun fact, Eleanor's annulment was done on grounds of consanguinity as Louis VII was her second cousin.
    Henry, her second husband, was her first cousin.

    • @gilemal1469
      @gilemal1469 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      So Eleanor divorced her first husband because he wasn't closely related enough to keep the bloodline pure?

    • @commanderstorm8874
      @commanderstorm8874 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Standard medieval stuff

    • @stupotgorilla
      @stupotgorilla ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Lmao i love that so much! When your new husband has a bigger army, bigger coffers, and is far more intelligent and ruthless nobody sweats the small stuff.

    • @DracarmenWinterspring
      @DracarmenWinterspring ปีที่แล้ว

      lol, but you got a source for that? Wikipedia claims her first husband was her 3rd cousin once removed, and her second husband was just her 3rd cousin (so your point still stands, but both of these would be borderline incestuous even by modern non-royal standards)

    • @Yaseenicus
      @Yaseenicus ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Henry was her 3rd cousin tho?

  • @iamseamonkey6688
    @iamseamonkey6688 ปีที่แล้ว +429

    It's always endlessly fascinating watching the creative ways in which women like Eleanor were able to maneuver their way around a society hostile to them.

    • @ClemDiamond
      @ClemDiamond ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Hostile is too strong of a word for medieval society, rather women were expected to be submissive, but they had rights and some could be very powerful. Eleanor of Aquitaine is a prime example of a woman breaking the mold but also showing that it was, in fact, possible without much consequences.
      The Renaissance and the modern times were in some ways worse than medieval ages. Think what would happen to a woman who gave only two daughters in 15 years to, say, Henry VIII of England.
      There was a very effective smearing campaign on her in France when the 100 years war began and she was the reason that Aquitaine was in english hands. She is very unpopular in most of France even today, but she wasn't so when she was alive.

    • @Marthe535
      @Marthe535 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ClemDiamond nice

    • @jaybee9269
      @jaybee9269 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ClemDiamond >> Thanks for the information, good points.

    • @richardpaschal2218
      @richardpaschal2218 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@ClemDiamondParis was pretty much a sewer until Alienor arrived with her Aquaitaine Culture and civilized it, to the chargin of the clerics of St. Denis.
      Coco Chanel was a wannabe. Alienor is the one who brought high fashion to Paris, and much more.
      .

    • @davidtownsend6092
      @davidtownsend6092 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not really creative. It's basically thru marriage and children like literally always. She was just better at marriage and children and had really good options available to her. Sorta handed to her technically.

  • @cactuscornette
    @cactuscornette ปีที่แล้ว +137

    To quote Lord Norwich: ''Eleanor of Aquitaine, married to one of Englands greatest kings and mother to two of it's worst.''

  • @giladpellaeon1691
    @giladpellaeon1691 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    "The Pope's sexy time bed" is a phrase that cannot be unheard and will now live rent free in my mind. 😆

    • @reindrawzz
      @reindrawzz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same😭

  • @silenceisgolden6097
    @silenceisgolden6097 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Eleanor: I want a divorce.
    The pope: I have a better idea :) * dims the candles while playing the medieval version of Let's get it on *

  • @AtlasNovack
    @AtlasNovack ปีที่แล้ว +639

    Matt turning to his left near the end sends a chill down my spine and I don't know why

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  ปีที่แล้ว +216

      He always tries to get his good side on camera but sometimes things just doing work out.

    • @mccoyfleming6664
      @mccoyfleming6664 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@extrahistory WALPOLE STICKER HOW?!?!

    • @MinibitX
      @MinibitX ปีที่แล้ว +2

      SAME

    • @notme8232
      @notme8232 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@mccoyfleming6664 It was Walpole. He made the sticker

    • @Hamster_Hanger
      @Hamster_Hanger ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How did you post this 1 day ago if this video has been up for around 2 hours

  • @rachel_sj
    @rachel_sj ปีที่แล้ว +454

    I’ve read a bit about Eleanor and it was fascinating to read about how a young Eleanor was so used to a warm climate, Mediterranean feasts, bards singing songs during them, speaking her mind due to a great education and an overall colorful life.
    It was written that she felt very stifled in the drab, damp and boring Northern France and I would be too if I imagined myself forced to marry and endure the whiplash of the change (for awhile at least as seen as her leaving Louis)

    • @ecurewitz
      @ecurewitz ปีที่แล้ว +36

      And once she realized northern France was bad, wait till she got to England.

    • @NinjaGrrrl7734
      @NinjaGrrrl7734 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@ecurewitz yeah, but Henry knew how to put it down. Louis should have been a priest as far as she was concerned. At least, that's what she said. She and Louis never had kids, then she met Henry and started popping out kids left and right. Wish she'd have stopped before John, but, you know, magna carta and whatnot.

    • @ClemDiamond
      @ClemDiamond ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@NinjaGrrrl7734 "Never had kids"
      They had 2 daughters.

    • @ecurewitz
      @ecurewitz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ClemDiamond beat me to it

    • @PewPewPlasmagun
      @PewPewPlasmagun ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ClemDiamond But she got a son from Henry immediately and thus a prince. Loius must have felt pretty dumb and insulted when he learned.

  • @ThatFanBoyGuy
    @ThatFanBoyGuy ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The fact that a painting of a pig tripping a horse exists proves that the people during that time found it as hilarious as it was tragic

    • @ndemers
      @ndemers ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Well, the crown prince being killed by a pig was certainly a big deal. Nowadays we'd do Netflix specials, but they did the best they could!

  • @Patrick-dx3oq
    @Patrick-dx3oq ปีที่แล้ว +298

    I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU GUYS DID AN EPISODE ON ELEANOR !!! SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!

    • @terriblefate4232
      @terriblefate4232 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not just an episode either, a full on series. HYPE!

    • @Baelor-Breakspear
      @Baelor-Breakspear ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah she’s always been a super interesting historical figure and I know extra credits does good work but they often come up short when doing videos about famous historical women. I’m sure this is them trying to fix that and I’m super happy they’ve listened to fans and picked such a interesting and important women to do a series about.

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You're excited!!! WE'RE EXCITED! Rob has been on the edge of his seat waiting for this video to hit TH-cam!

  • @nathanseper8738
    @nathanseper8738 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    “Horse tripped over a pig” sounds like something you’d see in America’s Funniest Home Videos LOL!

    • @alexandergangaware429
      @alexandergangaware429 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I like how the illustration has all of the retainers looking up at the sky like, "Really, God? This is how he goes?"

    • @alf513
      @alf513 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did the pig swallow a fly?

    • @nathanseper8738
      @nathanseper8738 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alexandergangaware429 Something out of some wacky comedy movie.

    • @nathanseper8738
      @nathanseper8738 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alf513 Good question.

  • @Robert6P6M
    @Robert6P6M ปีที่แล้ว +560

    Well, Occitan isn't a dialect of French. It's a completely different language, more closely related to Catalan than to French.

    • @kennethstople3969
      @kennethstople3969 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      They messed up the first crusading king as well, so they havent done their proper research for this one.

    • @elirodriguez4411
      @elirodriguez4411 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Well, the difference between language and dialect basically is State and institution's reconnaissance, and the French State that emerged from Île-de-France was the one to centralize and require documents in french (even though this happened in 1539, way after Elenor), so I think the use of dialect here is correct. The only official communication device at the moment was Latin, which was already falling in disuse. The langue of oil (that eventually would turn into french) was also technically a dialect at the time, and they never say "dialect of french" on the video.

    • @alex_zetsu
      @alex_zetsu ปีที่แล้ว +14

      To be honest, I'm not sure your average speaker of a Germanic language (like English) could tell where dialects in the Romance family falls. If you speak Romanian to us, then Catalan, and then "Standard" French, a lot of us might pick up they sound different, but we wouldn't be able to tell if they were 3 separate romance languages or 3 dialects of a Romance language. Some Germans might be able to if only due to enough Italian and French tourists that even if they don't understand either they can tell them apart.

    • @NapoleonAquila
      @NapoleonAquila ปีที่แล้ว

      on va te franciser comme les romains l'ont fait aux gaulois

    • @julienf2301
      @julienf2301 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@elirodriguez4411 There are several definitions of "language" and "dialect". And, depending on the definition you choose, being a "dialect" doesn't necessarily mean not being a "language" (in that sense what the video says is not necessarily wrong). But most commonly a language is defined by a strong level of inter-comprehension between its speakers. And this is definitely the case for medieval Occitan, which had a large body of literature in a semi-standardised form, exchanged all around its speaking area and around Europe (for instance Catalan authors were often writing in standardised Occitan -aka "Llemosi"- rather than their own dialect). Also it wasn't as strongly dialectised as modern Occitan.

  • @kathyastrom1315
    @kathyastrom1315 ปีที่แล้ว +336

    Oh, yay-Eleanor!!! I first learned about her in my early/medieval British history class in college, my professor just loved talking about her. He mentioned the rumor that the morning after her wedding night with Henry, she favorably compared his lovemaking to her first husband’s.
    I was really thrilled when doing my family genealogy a few years ago to discover a 10th great grandfather who was a gateway ancestor, someone whose family tree was well established back to William the Conqueror and then back to Charlemagne. Eleanor is my 26th great grandmother! I also have on that line a 17th great grandfather who was the stepfather of Margaret Beaufort, another medieval woman who deserves the EC treatment.

    • @walli6388
      @walli6388 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Pretty much everyone in Europe is related to Charlemagne.

    • @lephinor2458
      @lephinor2458 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did you find out.

    • @kathyastrom1315
      @kathyastrom1315 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lephinor2458 In filling out my family tree on Ancestry. They have hints for people in their database that include things like photographs, census entries, birth and death records, as well as any personal stories or excerpts from books. My 10th great grandfather’s family tree was published in several books about a century ago. There are lots of people like him who are equally well-documented, especially amongst those who arrived in the New World in the earlier centuries of European colonization. I had no idea that my grandmother’s family was so firmly rooted in colonial America (over 85% of her side arrived in North America before 1700) until I started researching. I had just assumed they were 19th century immigrants like on my mother’s side.

    • @kathyastrom1315
      @kathyastrom1315 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lephinor2458 I will add that genealogy is a fascinating hobby! For me, though, the best discovery hasn’t been the royalty connection, it’s been the ordinary people who lived amazing lives that I can’t imagine. It’s the son of that gateway ancestor who lost nearly his entire family to a neighbor boy with an axe-his only surviving child grew up to be a religious dissenter in Connecticut. It’s the nieces and nephew of my 6th great grandfather (who fought in the Revolutionary War) who joined the Shakers. And best of all, it’s my great great grandmother who lived a life of so many twists and turns that I am doing the research to write a book about her.
      And it’s also the living people I’ve connected with! The people in online groups who exchange tips and provide support, and more importantly, it’s the distant cousins I’ve struck up email correspondence with who I never would have even heard of before this.

    • @tams805
      @tams805 ปีที่แล้ว

      Americans are always so obsessed with ancestry.

  • @plucas1
    @plucas1 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Truly a woman with HUGE tracts of land!
    No, really, her duchy was enormous.

  • @TheBlankNoName
    @TheBlankNoName ปีที่แล้ว +19

    King Louis the 6th: Yo two minors, get married real quick
    At least they were near each other in age

  • @Ace-ace-baby
    @Ace-ace-baby 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    “King Louis the fat” that’s my favorite😂

  • @2keyblades
    @2keyblades ปีที่แล้ว +62

    We have gotten Saladin, Pedro the second, Menelik the second and now Elenor. Can we continue the Civilization 6 tour by having either Tamar of Georgia or Jadwiga of Poland next?

  • @edisonlima4647
    @edisonlima4647 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    "The Lion in Winter", in which Katherine Hepburn plays Alienor of Aquitaine is one of the most quotable movies of all times and absolutely amazing and I will die on this hill!!!!!

    • @eldorados_lost_searcher
      @eldorados_lost_searcher ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I'll keep you company. With some quotes for good measure:
      Eleanor of Aquitaine: And when you die, which is regrettable but necessary, what will happen to frail Alais and her pruny prince? You can't think Richard's going to wait for your grotesque to grow.
      Henry II: You wouldn't let him do a thing like that.
      Eleanor of Aquitaine: Let him? I'd push him through the nursery door.
      Henry II: You're not that cruel.
      Eleanor of Aquitaine: Don't fret. We'll wait until you're dead to do it.
      Henry II: Eleanor, what do you want?
      Eleanor of Aquitaine: Just what you want, a king for a son. You can make more, I can't. You think I want to disappear? One son is all I've got, and you can blot him out and call me cruel? For these ten years you've lived with everything I've lost, and loved another woman through it all, and I am cruel? I could peel you like a pear and God himself would call it justice!

    • @graceskerp
      @graceskerp ปีที่แล้ว +10

      "He married out of love a woman out of legend. Never in Rome, Alexandria or Camelot has there been such a queen."

    • @Xerxes2005
      @Xerxes2005 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      "I even made poor Louis take me on Crusade. How's that for blasphemy. I dressed my maids as Amazons and rode bare-breasted halfway to Damascus. Louis had a seizure and I damn near died of windburn... but the troops were dazzled."

    • @graceskerp
      @graceskerp ปีที่แล้ว +8

      "Well, what family doesn't have its ups and downs?"

    • @fanofgenericwtlalt
      @fanofgenericwtlalt ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I say to my sister that it's basically Arrested Development: Plantagenet Edition. Especially when Eleanor has the confession about not liking her children.

  • @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv
    @FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Oh here we go! Mother of Richard the Lionheart and Queen of Two Courts of Love.

  • @ekrenz5268
    @ekrenz5268 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Eleanor is one of my favorite historic female figures, I often consider her as the Cleopatra of France.

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ah Eleanor of Aquitaine. One of those historical figures whose lives read like a Medieval historical drama, with Eleanor being the main character the entire series and its convoluted plot twists revolves around.

  • @arthurboidron33one
    @arthurboidron33one ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You cannot even begin to understand how happy I am to see a serie about Aliénord of Aquitaine, a huge thank you to the team from an Aquitanian men

  • @punelopepunstop5515
    @punelopepunstop5515 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Who needs soap operas, when we got medieval history?

  • @thegrimmarcher202
    @thegrimmarcher202 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "This made him the first king to go on crusade"
    Sigurd the first of Norway: Am I a joke to you?

  • @rukbat3
    @rukbat3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I've always loved Eleanor of Aquitaine, based largely on reading A Proud Taste for Scarlet and Miniver by E.L. Koenigsburg as a child and on the fact that she is a minor character in my favorite Robin Hood movie (Disney's The Story of Robin Hood and His Merrie Men) and is a total badass. Very excited for this series!

    • @edisonlima4647
      @edisonlima4647 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you watched "The Lion in Winter"?
      Is an older and embittered Eleanor, but she is still amazing, the lines are endlessly quotable and the cast is entirely awesome!!

    • @rukbat3
      @rukbat3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edisonlima4647 I have seen it, but it was a long time ago, and I barely remember it! I guess it's time for a rewatch!

  • @epicguy3449
    @epicguy3449 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Luis seems like a good husband.Definitely treated his wife better than most kings at his time

    • @tananario
      @tananario ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Louis.

    • @hoonshiming99
      @hoonshiming99 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Too bad his wife didn’t care much about him. Rumours of her sleeping with her uncle, being the one to suggest annulment, and ditching her first husband to marry the future king of England which further sparked the Hundred Years’ War, yeah not really a great woman if you think about it.

    • @Darkgun231
      @Darkgun231 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@hoonshiming99 In her defense, she didn't suggest annulment until the cracks in her marriage started to show during the disaster that was the 2nd Crusade. And odds are the rumors were just that, rumors. Mere slander spread by nobles who didn't like her. A fairly common tactic then and now.
      Honestly, without knowing more, I'd say Eleanor was probably bitter and dis-satisfied with her husband long before the Crusade, but tried to make it work since that was her duty as a wife and queen. But things just kept piling up without being resolved. And in my opinion, Louis VII seems like he was a bit too much of a god-botherer to be any good at being a king or husband.

    • @Numba003
      @Numba003 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Darkgun231 god-botherer?

    • @pussydestroyer69285
      @pussydestroyer69285 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hoonshiming99 lmao because of rumours? She’s not a bad woman for wanting to leave a marriage she didn’t want to be in

  • @NGBigfield
    @NGBigfield ปีที่แล้ว +19

    That's amazing! I've just reached the part in the podcast "The History of the English Language Podcasts" where he mentiones her and her critical role on influencing the English language!

  • @qdHazen
    @qdHazen ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Having played her son Geoffrey in “The Lion in Winter,” this will be a very interesting series for me.

    • @Xerxes2005
      @Xerxes2005 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Then you must be very knowledgeable...

    • @edisonlima4647
      @edisonlima4647 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Oh, but who ever thinks of poor Geoffrey?"

    • @qdHazen
      @qdHazen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No one *ever* thinks of crowns and mentions Geoffrey. Why is that?

    • @Xerxes2005
      @Xerxes2005 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@qdHazen To be honest, out of the three brothers in this movie, I believe he would have been the best king. A bit drab, but probably the most competent. I don't know about the historical Geoffrey though.

  • @annnichols3091
    @annnichols3091 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Aw, the cat looks so cute in a crown.

  • @GaldirEonai
    @GaldirEonai ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Accidentally massacring 1200 people, that's a bit of a "bruh" moment even by medieval standards.

  • @xaviersaavedra7442
    @xaviersaavedra7442 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the continuity on the crusade/Saladin episodes.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    And she’s going to cause a rivalry that will last nearly a thousand years…

  • @MrT3a
    @MrT3a ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love Eleonor's story ! Thanks for covering this great figure of both French and English history.

  • @Suite_annamite
    @Suite_annamite 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Although I'm of mainly Vietnamese extraction, I have two French-Canadian aunts:
    one of whom has broad Aquitanian heritage through Bordeaux specifically, but Gascony in general; and another whose origins are broadly from Champagne. Nice to see both places brought up seemingly so randomly.

  • @paulmcdaris77
    @paulmcdaris77 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love this! My first exposure to Eleanor was in the movie The Lion in Winter with Kathrine Hepburn and Peter O’Toole, which saw the imagined Christmas court of Henry II. It was an amazing performance and show and since then it’s always wonderful to see any media represent one of the most interesting though little known female figures of history, either from CIV to this!

  • @benjaminobienu5297
    @benjaminobienu5297 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    This gave some thoughts about Eleanor as the fabulous queen of England and France. I can't wait for more, and I love how you guys have done with history with animation, for it is worth watching videos on them. Can I ask you guys a question? By the way, I'm a massive fan of this channel, but I do not subscribe to the channel yet.

  • @benjaminorr5655
    @benjaminorr5655 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I absolutely love this thumbnail format! It looks so nice!

  • @malachiphoniex8501
    @malachiphoniex8501 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    I'm interested in starting a discussion: what topics do you think are not taught enough or even explored? Coming from an American angle, I think the Japanse occupation and Pacific resistance to the occupation, Byzantine history, Australian colonization, Bengal famine, and early North American exploration are good examples.

    • @Lightspeeds
      @Lightspeeds ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You hit a fair chunk of the big ones. I'd like to learn a bit more about European colonialism in Africa.

    • @trev6004
      @trev6004 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Most of the history in the middle east can be considered extremely important but under taught, with some of the greatest empires in history being based in this region. (Ex: The Persian Empire, Alexander, Parthians, Palmyrene's, Sassanid's and a lot of Caliphates further on) Honestly, a lot of Muslim goes untaught, even through a lot of important and interesting stuff happened in Muslim regions , most notably the Islamic golden age which gave us massive strides in maths, literature, medicine and more. (Including Coffee) As a brit, I don't remember touching on any of these thing's, bar a bit on Alexander as a person, not anything about his achievements and even then I was very young.

    • @TheTrueAdept
      @TheTrueAdept ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I always wanted to see Ferdinand graf Zeppelin, Junker (Prussian military nobility), Calvary Officer, War hero, and inventor of: Zeppelins (took the idea after a short trip to observe the American Civil War after riding in a hot air balloon), aerospace corporations (because he needed the infrastructure to build Zeppelins), and airlines (to sell the idea to the military _and_ the people). ;)

    • @Scientin
      @Scientin ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@trev6004 Hard agree on middle eastern history. I took a course on premodern middle east in college and it was absolutely fascinating. While Europe's going through their "dark ages" there's this whole Islamic Golden Age going on. Additionally, I wish southeast asian history was taught more. Back in high school when talking about world history we only ever really discussed China, India, and Japan. No mention of the various southeastern trading kingdoms or anything else for that matter until the Vietnam War.

    • @tananario
      @tananario ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The amazing African kingdoms.

  • @edwarren8541
    @edwarren8541 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Eleanor is a fascinating person. I requested that you do a series on her -- I'm sure I'm not the only one who did so -- thank you for this!

  • @barbaros99
    @barbaros99 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Welp, time to play all of "The Lion in Winter" in my head now.

  • @BugsydorPrime
    @BugsydorPrime ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember bits and pieces of this from reading _A Proud Taste for Scarlet and Miniver_ in middle school. Looking forward to more!

  • @JaimeNyx15
    @JaimeNyx15 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Eleanor is the coolest. Can't wait to see her life animated (and for Lies after all this is done)

  • @maxrlx5467
    @maxrlx5467 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this new art, I've been watching for so long and I love this channel.

  • @Googledeservestodie
    @Googledeservestodie ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine being that crusaders state waiting for knights and soldiers and you end up getting a bickering married couple instead.

  • @1000eau
    @1000eau ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really liked this video, I'm Aquitainian and I'm glad you're making videos about our most famous duchess ^^

  • @Dorgaffe
    @Dorgaffe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am so happy to have gotten this specific video for history homework! I constantly see the worst parent shorts, and overall love this channel’s work!

  • @samanthabennett-medievh5328
    @samanthabennett-medievh5328 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting for y'all to do a series on her! Yay!

  • @florabamalife1859
    @florabamalife1859 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The pope has some interesting ways to counsel 🤣

  • @doyouevenpraise189
    @doyouevenpraise189 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nice love all these animated medieval stories.

  • @margotchekan7467
    @margotchekan7467 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is fantastic! I have been hyperfixated on Eleanor of Aquitaine for a few weeks. Books research, now this!

  • @steveamato4857
    @steveamato4857 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These videos are so great. I really enjoy them.

  • @OhSkyeLanta
    @OhSkyeLanta ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I’m attempting a different sort of Tudor Novel and Eleanor of Aquitaine is one of the inspirations and role models I’ll be drawing most heavily on, so I’m really excited to see you cover her!

    • @foxpro3002
      @foxpro3002 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck in writing it 😊👍

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good luck on your book!

  • @ceebee9195
    @ceebee9195 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking forward to this, Eleanor is a truly fascinating character. I’m hoping we’ll see a cameo from William Marshall, another pivotal figure from this period who I’d love to see you take a crack at someday.

  • @karsenknight
    @karsenknight ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid so far!

  • @brandonbohr.7301
    @brandonbohr.7301 ปีที่แล้ว

    Informative and amazing video as always.

  • @jas1007
    @jas1007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent topic for a new series!

  • @theemoon580
    @theemoon580 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the new style for the thumbnail

  • @Lionstar16
    @Lionstar16 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm looking forward to this Extra Credits series on Eleanor of Aquitaine - one of the greatest women in history :)

  • @BlakLite15
    @BlakLite15 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the way that Medieval art struggles to capture human faces, often leaving characters with completely deadpan expressions. It makes every painting they're in drip with the energy of, "Oh no! Anyway..."

    • @robinrehlinghaus1944
      @robinrehlinghaus1944 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the cases of saints or royalty, they're often made like that to demonstrate stoic endurance. Medieval art is highly symbolic, being accurate to real expression wasn't always the case. Though it's visible that medieval masonry is much more lively than illuminations in many instances.

    • @BlakLite15
      @BlakLite15 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robinrehlinghaus1944 Even so, it's still funny.

    • @hetalianotaku7103
      @hetalianotaku7103 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robinrehlinghaus1944 Not to mention paper and art tools were often expensive. And few people had any time to refine any artistic skills.

    • @robinrehlinghaus1944
      @robinrehlinghaus1944 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hetalianotaku7103 Well, that's not untrue, but I wouldn't quite put it like that. Anyone can have the time and creativity to do a scribble on birch bark, and ink isn't exactly difficult to make... we do see an explosive growth of writing and drawing after the spread of paper in the late medieval period, but I'd say that what deserves to be made and preserved was perceived differently, more notably. The basic materials wouldn't have been unachievable for common folk, it's just that writing and drawing/painting were highly valued and I believe a common man might well have felt like doing something very inappropriate if he was to make a drawing of something mondänen since due to the aforementioned symbolic nature of medieval art, he would probably have been unable to be as nuanced as the monks and scribes, even though his art's degree of naturalism might not have been too different.

    • @hetalianotaku7103
      @hetalianotaku7103 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robinrehlinghaus1944 There were some exceptions, like the jack-of-all-trades Matthew Paris. But that other person was right. Monarchy was meant to be depicted symbolically at this time rather than realistically.

  • @DomyTheMad420
    @DomyTheMad420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "who?! I've never even HEARD of that name?!"
    how i know it's gonna become one of my favorite series by you guys ;)

  • @vikkidc3859
    @vikkidc3859 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes! I've been waiting for this

  • @stefvandreunen1041
    @stefvandreunen1041 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Omg this is one of the funniest video’s y all ever made. The pope as marriage councillor suprised me. I was like wow damn what he do then? Oh makes sense, that’s on me, i set the bar too high

  • @Luraldir_Original
    @Luraldir_Original ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just when i thought this channel couldn't get any better, Blackadder references

  • @Ryu_D
    @Ryu_D ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video.

  • @robertcoutu8961
    @robertcoutu8961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love today's subject and very interested to hear how that laser mirror puzzle for your dnd game goes lol!

  • @bishoukun
    @bishoukun ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's so sad that she had to leave her daughters. Eleanor is absolutely an amazing heckin' lady.

  • @KoalaKate
    @KoalaKate ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FINALLY, Eleanor, yay! Thanks so much!

  • @peytonreed937
    @peytonreed937 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, new style of thumbnail? Oh this is gonna be awesome!

  • @deniseeulert2503
    @deniseeulert2503 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I'm going to have to wait for part two.

  • @Kadenshandle
    @Kadenshandle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! I enjoy the new art style. It looks nice.

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am familiar with the name, but I can't say I remember much more about Eleanor aside from that. I'll have to watch the rest of the series and learn. Thank you for another interesting video!
    Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)

  • @frankharr9466
    @frankharr9466 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My mom was a fan of El. I'm looking forward to learning more about her.

  • @Nick-mp1zh
    @Nick-mp1zh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m a huge fan of history, and my wife and I decided to name any sons we have after famous historical kings and any daughters after famous queens. Our firstborn is named Eleanor after this very queen, and it’s awesome that you guys have a great video series we can use to learn about her namesake.

  • @rennor3498
    @rennor3498 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If only they had proper marrige councillors back then, this could have spared France the inconvenience of the Hundred Years War.

    • @andrewklang809
      @andrewklang809 ปีที่แล้ว

      The rich today behave no better. Imagine if the fallout from Prince Harry's split with his family over how they treated his wife led to a war between the US and Britain.

    • @lysimaquetokmok6755
      @lysimaquetokmok6755 ปีที่แล้ว

      No because England would have inherited Anjou and Maine anyway

    • @Game_Hero
      @Game_Hero ปีที่แล้ว

      But look at this fancy pope bed! Isn't it nice?

  • @matthewbunting9890
    @matthewbunting9890 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You now the funny thing is a couple of days ago I was playing Sid's Civilisation 6 with a couple of my friends playing as England and I got to thinking huh wonder if there's some nice easy info on Eleanor of Aquitaine. Maybe I'll see if Extra Credits have done a series on her.. and oh look you've just started one.. nice timing :D .

  • @dapperduck4250
    @dapperduck4250 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Hopefully one day you guys go over the life of Margaret Beaufort! The Mother of Henry Tudor and how she navigated her and her son's way through the wars of the roses and eventually to the throne

    • @edisonlima4647
      @edisonlima4647 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That BBC monumentally well toned documentary on her ending their cycle of docus on The Wars of the Roses is impossible to match, though...

    • @dapperduck4250
      @dapperduck4250 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edisonlima4647 I wasn't aware the BBC did one! I'll have to check it after work!

    • @dapperduck4250
      @dapperduck4250 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edisonlima4647 you were right! It's really well done! I'd still love to see how the extra credits team would present it though!
      Thanks for the recommendation!

  • @oykuerkaya6651
    @oykuerkaya6651 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, i've been following your channel for quite some time now and I am especially fond of extra history and mythology. I was wondering if you could make a few videos about the Turkish Independence War(especially now that 30th of August coming up). I have never seen anything about it on any international channels. It is drastically overlooked considering how it affected other nations to gain their independence. Thank you

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro ปีที่แล้ว

    this is going to be a good series I can feel it

  • @papallegatepoope3010
    @papallegatepoope3010 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    First time a king went on crusade? What about king Sigurd of Norway?

    • @Siegbert85
      @Siegbert85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fair point!

    • @thenablade858
      @thenablade858 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was the Crusade equivalent of an OK spin off tv series that nobody really cared about. This is the actual Second Crusade.

  • @malachiphoniex8501
    @malachiphoniex8501 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm liking this series so far but I can't wait for it to end. I'm pumped to watch the Easter Rising series! From what I've heard, this topic is controversial to some people and I love controversial topics. I would watch a whole series on the Cathar Crusade or the Muslim Conquest of India.

    • @margaretcarter6483
      @margaretcarter6483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here! I can hardly wait for that series. In 2016 we went on an unforgettable group tour of Ireland for the centennial of the Rising.

    • @malachiphoniex8501
      @malachiphoniex8501 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@margaretcarter6483 Any favorite sites while you were there?

  • @wyvernofred
    @wyvernofred 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my name is April, and I will say, I did not to expect to be so sternly directly adressed right at the start of the video

  • @hrhfaegodmom
    @hrhfaegodmom ปีที่แล้ว

    YAS!!! ELEANOR!!! MA GRRL!!!

  • @rurallemas
    @rurallemas ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is an exciting series for me as a civ player from England who was pretty surprised to have a leader that I'd never heard of representing England

  • @jedgrahek1426
    @jedgrahek1426 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the funniest history story I've ever heard. I lost it the moment you said "Her Uncle" lol.

  • @Galistarwater
    @Galistarwater ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yay! Eleanor of Aquitaine! I knew about all of these things in the video, but I didn't know about Louis's brother's hilarious death by tripping over a pig!

  • @Annathesilent
    @Annathesilent ปีที่แล้ว

    A video thats 10 minutes exactly i love it

  • @kevinliu8783
    @kevinliu8783 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah! New series

  • @Rileytrainboy
    @Rileytrainboy ปีที่แล้ว

    You are doing great

  • @mr_bridou6507
    @mr_bridou6507 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could you do a serie on Talleyrand one day ? It would be great!

  • @lakeishahamer5965
    @lakeishahamer5965 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your vids

  • @Thebombboom
    @Thebombboom ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we all just appreciate the quality of the thumbnails? It seems that artists are going back and redoing them for some of the other videos to. Like the Spanish Flu videos.

  • @mogscugg2639
    @mogscugg2639 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    In Sid Meier's Civ 6, Eleanor is the ancestor to ten other leaders:
    Matthias Corvinus of Hungary
    Jadwiga of Poland
    Queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands
    Queen Victoria of England
    Theodore Roosevelt of the US
    Joao III of Portugal
    Philip II of Spain
    Pedro II of Brazil
    Catherine di Medici of France
    and Queen Kristina of Sweden

    • @brianmiller1077
      @brianmiller1077 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And of course can be the leader of France or England

    • @ryotanada
      @ryotanada ปีที่แล้ว

      An in-law for Matthias's case, though

    • @brianmiller1077
      @brianmiller1077 ปีที่แล้ว

      @علي ياسر ususally civ leaders are one race one set of abilities, CIV 6 changed it so there's a national ability and a leader ability. this way you can have a peaceful Greek and a warrior Greek. they share a national ability but have a different leader ability

  • @eskewroberts7663
    @eskewroberts7663 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh, boy!
    Now THIS is a 1st episode
    Such juicy medieval drama

  • @Courtneybenson907
    @Courtneybenson907 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Duchess of Aquitaine in her own right. Wife to two Kings, mother to three Kings and two Queens, grandmother to four Kings and seven Queens, and ancestor to pretty much all of Europe.

  • @iron4517
    @iron4517 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg omg new ep

  • @TheBenBen253
    @TheBenBen253 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Wearing gowns and collecting crowns"
    Haha 😂 I love that line

  • @vaguelysomething
    @vaguelysomething ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I kept scrolling past this video because I didn't know it was extra history despite the cool thumbnail

  • @rukeyazu8669
    @rukeyazu8669 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m a substitute Ed tech in a high school right now and the teacher had forgotten the video she was going to show for medieval history, so she let me put on this series for the kids.