Type 30 Arisaka
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- Most people are familiar with the Type 38 Arisaka, which was one of the two very distinctive Japanese rifles of World War II (along with the Type 99). The Type 38 was an outstanding rifle in large part because it was the result of several years of experience and development which began in 1897 with the Type 30 "Hook Safety" Arisaka. This first Japanese smallbore military rifle was designed by a committee (led by Col. Arisaka) from the best elements of other rifles being made at the time. It used a bolt which was significantly more complex than the elegant Type 38 bolt which would follow later.
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Underrated show!!, watched the murata 18 video
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I really need one of these rifles... and a dummy for a Sugimoto cosplay
I actually found out a few years ago that my late great-grandfather's bayonet (which he used in the winter- and continuation wars) was from an Arisaka rifle. We were quite confused, since Japan feels so far away from Finland, but this video explained it (:
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Two types of people watching this:
1. Finns wondering why they had Japanese rifles at some point.
2. Golden Kamuy fans.
Lmao true
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3. Russians also wondering why they had japanese rifles
I was just admiring an Arisaka at my local Cabela's the other day. It had the "mum" in excellent condition but the wood was rather rough. They had a second one with the "mum" removed too. If anyone is looking for one, they are/were at the Cabela's in Christiana, Delaware. They also had a rather interesting Swiss 1911 straight pull bolt rifle. It had multiple markings all over it. From not only Switzerland but also German ones too, (eagle on swastika and all) one other countries markings of which I forget and then some Iraqi marking too. That thing had been places! Sadly, they wouldn't let me take pictures of it.
Always take photos until you’re told it to. I once snapped a picture of a Shanghai Arsenal broom handle in .45 ACP, picture I took has the little “no photos” sign in it too 🤣
Historical fact: The Koreans also produced the Type 30 Arisaka rifle was adopted by the Korean Empire in 1902. But it takes two years because of the interruption of the Pro Russian ministers. But even after the interruption, Type 30 was adopted as a standard issue rifle of the imperial army of the Korean Empire and licensed to produce at the Yongsan Arsenal from 1904 to 1907. According to the record, the Yongsan Arsenal can produce 10 rifles and 3000 cartridges in the year and they produce one thousand five hundred rifles in total in the year.
But unfortunately, the Yongsan Arsenal shut down in 1907 when the Imperial Army of Korea has dismissed by Japan and so, the machine tools have been scrapped since the arsenal had closed.
Are there any surviving examples?
"Finnish ones would have the boxed SA property marks"
No, no, no! Almost all of these rifles were sold or traded out of Finland before 1942 when the SA stamp came around. If there is a Type 30 rifle with an SA stamp it is most likely a FAKE. Plus, the SA was army only and the Civil Guard were given all of the various Arisakas after their Civil war.
I would be even more poor if I lived in usa, beautiful craftsmanship and beautiful design!
Finns also had thousands of Type 30, Type 35 and Type 38 rifles that were captured in Finnish Civil War. These rifles ended up in Finnish hands from ex-imperial Russian soldiers and when they were captured from socialist rebels who got them as military aid from Russian bolsheviks.
Most of these rifles were sold to abroad (mostly to Estonia) before WW2. And after that rest of them were sold to civilians as hunting and sports rifles.
Oh, I forgot to explain how Russia got these rifles. Russia had got some examples of Arisakas in Russo-Japanese War in 1904-1905. But when WW1 started Russia had a major lack of rifles, so it had to order them from countries that were not in an active, material consuming war. Japan was at a state of war but had no major role in WW1 so it could sell it's guns to allies. So Japan sold it's rifles to Russia and Great Britain.
Ian made a video on them just a month ago. =)
Nice rifle and a well spoken history lesson.
I believe another reason for the split buttstock (in general, not just Arisakas) is that it allows you to start with narrower billets of wood, so you don't have to cut away and waste as much. I think that's why they did it on some Mosin-Nagants despite them having laminated stocks.
The sight of that case full of Luger's always makes me smile.
I've heard the theories and have talked to many about the chances of a bolt embedding itself in your face. So far, never witnessed it nor has anyone stepped forward knowing of such a failure happening in person. The close I got was my gramps marine buddy and he says he's never witnessed a malfunction but the butt end can easily break your jaw, cheek bone, and pop your eye ball. I believe him because of his glass eye and the fact he and my gramps both got purple hearts in Iwo Jima.
"if you would like to have a type 30 in your collection" me: "hell yeah", my family:"da fuck not"
Very nice. Didn't know much about these, only that there was a predecessor to the commonly known Arisakas. Great video as always. Thank you
Love the explanation for the two piece butt stock. Always knew it was intentional, but never knew why! Keep up the good work, Ian!
The removable bolt head is a take-off of the Dutch/Romanian Mannlicher, the bolt latch Dutch M95; safety Japanese design, the Magazine Mauser 93/95, Rear sights typical Euro Ladder, Bayonet Mauser M95 type.
Ammo, similar RNFB FMJ, 155-164 grain type., Base Upset Obturation, into Metford Segmental Rifling. ( almost "Polygonal" ante diem).
A genial, if not perfect assemblage of features current at the time...almost forgot, the Cartridge Clip was a simplified M89---96 Mauser clip.
( wider than later M98 7,9 clip)
Doc AV
Great video of a very unique rifle!👍👍
Cool rifle. Thanks for showing.
Congrats on winning this!
That safety/recocker looks really neat.
Nukle0n It definitely is, I grew up shooting a .22lr rifle which had the same style of safety. Sadly I know nothing about the rifles origins other than that it was threaded for a silencer and that it was manufactured in the USSR somewhere.
Which is rather odd seeing as it ended up in Norway during the cold war..
***** Do you still have it? are there any markings?
It could have been a few off soviet hit gun used for assasinations. Similar to the SSG-82 used by the East Germans (allegedly)
10,000 of the 6.5×50mm rimmed cartridge chambered Type 30 Arisaka rifles were converted into blank firing
training rifles from 1905-1921 by; boring out the .264/6.7mm grooved rifled barrel to smooth bore ( 6.8 mm?),
removing most of the receiver markings like the Imperial Chrysanthemum, & then stamping in new serial
numbers, the Tokyo Arsenal's 4 stack of cannonballs viewed from above mark & 空 放 銃 "blank firing gun"
The locking lugs look so tiny, but cartridges back then probably weren't too stout. Even 6.5x50 Arisaka is practically an intermediate cartridge.
One thing I really envy you was chance to fire Steyr-Roth 09 auto loading pistol. That is my dream weapon. Nice video as always.
Thank you for this video. i watched some movies with type 30's on it now i know how the gun works
Why did I not find this until today?
God bolt action rifles are beautiful
Eann. Is that how you spell your name.? Dude you have the job I have dreamed of since I was a little boy. I love history and the firearms that are an intricate part of mans development in human evolution.
Very cool riflle. That safety is kinda similar, at least functionally, to the loop safety cocking knobs on the Swiss Schmidt-Rubin and K31 rifles.
I was trying to buy the inventory of a 1940's Radio repair shop but the owner wasn't quit ready to sell. But then he started offering to sell rifles and I walked away with a type 30, and a very old Remington 22 pump action, with some odd repairs on it.
lucky I have been trying to get a type 30 for a couple years
It must have been surrendered at the end of WW2. The chrysanthemum had been ground out, which was a disappointment. Although, I read that the Japanese did that before turning tham over to the Victors. Something to do with 'saving face' for the Emperor.
the 2,000m sight calibration on that ladder sight is a bit optimistic lol.
KinkyFulcrum That's fairly standard for rifles of that era.
I know this video is old but ever find a Arisaka chambered in 3006 for the Korean army/resistance? Apparently during the Korean War since Arisakas were kinda almost everywhere in Korea some Korean troops rebored them to 3006 due to the Americans coming over and assisting them. I’m pretty sure very few were made due to America supplying Koreans with m1 garands which by far beats any bolt action.
Great, informative video as always. Sorry if I ask a dumb question but do you ever fear you'll run out of interesting weapons to show?
StormKidification Nope. :)
That's what I asked in the last video.
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give it to a hot bara man and im all willing to learn about this cool Gun
My fellow kins man
You should do one on the grandpa nambu
What was so bad or wrong about the type 30? I have one and it shoots, feeds, ejects perfectly. Someone enlighten me.
Jay Choi like everyone else's rifle, it wasn't mauser enough. That extractor is a weak link for sure.
@@randymagnum143 it jams in the mud during the Russo-Japanese war, and too complex for disassembly and reassembly.
Hi! I came into possesion of a Type 30 Bayonet for the Type 30 Arisaka, and i was thinking about finding a Type 30 Arisaka rifle to go with it! Do you know where i might be able to find one of these for sale that still works?
Did these have dust covers like later Japanese rifles?
+Gadsden Guy No, the dust cover was added to the Type 35 (and subsequent 38 and 99) after complaints about the Type 30.
Ian, I got a great deal on one of these from a friend that was down sizing. Mine looks so much like this one except, it has the rear sight has the notch on the top. I want to get ammo for it and maybe even fire it. Should I go with the (6.5×50mmSR Arisaka) or is there another ammunition that this rifle uses?
Can you answer a question: why did anyone use round nosed billets, are there any advantages?
How much was the Type 30 used in WWII? Do you know?
The hook safety/cocker looks to be positioned more conveniently for left handed shooters.
My favorite Japanese rifle. I’m honestly not a fan of the plum shape bolt handle on the type 38. The aesthetics even though more complicated are far more attractive.
We didn't buy those rifles from Japan or Italy, they were on our soil as left overs from the troops of Russian Empire who were staying over here while we still were part of their Empire. And these "backyard units" were issued with them Japanese and Italian old obsolete rifles.
What are you talking about Japan crushed russia in the japanese russo war and this rifle was obsolete by WW2
@@PIERCESTORM They were bought in 1916,to solve the rifle shortages.By the end of the year,entire divisions of army group north were equiped with arisakas.Also i don't know from where did you get that,but that war was an indecisive one.Only the revolutinaires in 1905 and afterwards and leftists worldwide represented it as a russian defeat in order to gain support among the disgruntled population,and/or to represent the russian empire as a backwards state or whatever pansy term they used.My great-great grandfather fought in this war.
@@vojdanradevski16zyzz Look at every battle in the war, look at the Battle of Tsushima Strait specifically, the Russian navy was absolutely crushed and many of the battles were decisive Japanese victories. Russia only won 1 battle against unarmed convoys. Every other battle was either inconclusive or a Japanese victory and the majority of battles were Japanese victories
@@PIERCESTORM Of course they lost at tsushima,they were bound to lose that battle.Their ships were heavily fouled and moved at 10 knots max.And instead of circumventing Japan through the east,safely to Vladivostok,they went through the shorter route through tsushima.Also,winning battles,doesn't mean that you're winning the war.After the battle of Mukden,the japanese were finished.All their generals knew it.The signing of the treaty of portsmouth and the revolution at home,saved the japanese from having one year of success,erased within weeks.One of the japanese generals commented after the battle:we have depleted all our reserves,our comm lines are overextended,while our enemy is not only untouched,but 90%of their potential army is still home.So read up before making assumptions.
@@vojdanradevski16zyzz I did read up, and infact that is untrue, because after Mukden was the battle of Sakhalin, which resulted in another Japanese victory, and not only that, after the war, Russia ceded Guandong and south sakhalin to Japan. So in reality, I do see Japan as the clear winners here,
Japanese small arms design is probably the most fascinating to me, they made a lot of mediocre machine guns and crappy pistols but at least their rifles were actually quality stuff.
Matthew Fauria Theyre interesting, asian influenced Mausers. Pretty cool theyre underrated and dont get the respect they deserve.
sergeantbigmac I think its a shame they dont get respect, I love my type 99.
Matthew Fauria Not only do they not get respect, but many people actually think theyre unsafe! Which is simply untrue.
Id like to pick up an Arisaka for my collection. Im assuming now would be a good time to get one (ive noticed prices on all WWII era stuff is going up!) Which is easier to pick up ammo for, the 99 or 38? I ask because I dont handload...
sergeantbigmac Ha good luck finding ammo, you pretty much have to hand load for the Arisaka, Ive gotten lucky with a few local gun stores but Id definitely pick the 99, if you are so inclined to have to handload its a relatively straightforward process of shaving a few mm off of a 30-06 shell.
Matthew Fauria Thanks for the info. Ya im just not in a position to reload at the moment. Maybe at a later date but not now. I have other guns with common ammo I can shoot a lot, its just something I want to add to my World War collection (especially before prices get too crazy).
Im seeing them in the 300-400 range... is that a reasonable price? Seems a bit high to me, but maybe stuff has changed since I last looked for one...
Hello sir I have a type 99 and a type 30 arisaka from ww2 the type 30 we belive is from end of ww1 pre ww2.
Don't these have an action similar to the Carcano? Or no? I know about the Type I, but I heard this one was also similar.
***** Not really similar.
Totally different actually.
Type I had nothing is common aside from the magazine system and ammunition. Dont take people seriously when they said Type I as an "Arisaka" (I have seen a video on YT recommendation which it called the Carcano a damn Arisaka). Even calling the Type 38 and 99 as Arisakas are a bit misnomer as they were designed by Kijiro Nambu.
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Will you be making a Type 38 video? The training rifle video is good but doesn't go over everything including the history.
Yes, I will be doing a complete series on Japanese rifles.
Forgotten Weapons thank you for the reply, I am looking forward to it
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Nice rifle, you should do a shooting video.
superbrofire Considering I just won this rifle at auction today, I plan to! :)
Holy Lugers batman.....see cases behind ian
Tannenberg brought me here.
Watched in 2021
i would love one but sadly the uk laws will not allow me to have one
Andy Coakes UK law permits this under FAC(Fire Arm Certificate). You can own and shoot it legally.
If you CAN'T get an FAC you are either a criminal or are under 18.
EDSKaR Interesting requirement this FAC. You can't buy one of these in US if you are under 18 or a criminal either...
teh pcguy FAC or SGC (Firearm and Shotgun certificates) are our licences for owning firearms.
Add to that you need a "valid reason" to get the certificate. "Valid reason" for most people means going to a gun club and starting to spend silly money getting involved in it. Its a real shame because it means I can't afford to get involved.
I've played airsoft for damn near two decades but I only get to shoot real guns when someone who I know says 'I'll pay for you to come shoot with us'
I hate our laws, so restrictive. I could pop down the pub and buy an illegal one for a weeks pay, but doing it legit is too expensive.
Although take all this lightly, I'm very poor, my rent/bills/food costs 92% of my income.
Very poor.
I need a better job...
Can I have maybe one of those Lugers?
How much did this rifle sell for?
Hello, I am engaged in the restoration of weapons, I can not find an extract on arisaka type 30, could you tell me if you have this item in stock?? Or where can I find it
He isn't s gun seller and ria is an auction house. He might be able to direct you to a parts seller but in a gun like that there is no guarentee
The odd thing is that the very long rifles and attached bayonets easily towered over the average Japanese soldiers and were very cumbersome in close quarters jungle environments. For the plains of China and Manchuria? Great, long range, lots of stopping power. But in more confined spaces? Terrible. And the Japanese never really caught on to this, although they did develop a number of carbines and even a prototype SMG.
The Type 99 is a short rifle; similar to the SMLE.
I guess the Japanese were just obsessed with long blades, for cultural reasons too. For example, think of the Shin Gunto, the military sword with which every Imperial Armed Forces' officer was mandatorily equipped. A unique case during WWII, just like their bayonets (total length approx. 19"!), the longest (and scariest) among all WWII armies.
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The action and bolt design did not take into consideration the possibility of a ruptured primer. Without provisions to deflect gas , the flow path of gas would come back into the shooter's face. This happened to me. Luckily I was wearing shooting glasses.
I have finally found the gun I need to get. In memory of the righteous armies who it is basically impossible to confirm but can be well assumed captured these to use against the Japanese occupiers
".. was the Type 38, which we will address in a later video" ... YES, also watching anime seams to have paid off as I recognized the 'San' kanji for 'three'. well atleast something :p and finally yay for more asian guns.
FirstDagger Like their entertainment, the Asian countries have a ton of odd arsenals, they tend not to go long without updating their stuff, hence the wide range of oddities.
Me: I want this gun in hunt showdown as another medium ammo bolt action rifle that has more range and hits harder than the Vertelli rifle
I don't care for the meili era, that one was lame and full of trade.