The Commanders People Stopped Building | EDHRECast 124

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  • These commanders started strong, but fell hard. This week on the cast, it's time to look at the commanders whose popularity plateaued. Why do some commanders lose player interest? What causes a player to take a deck apart? Are there any commanders that players never stopped building? Let's find out!
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ความคิดเห็น • 362

  • @jmcrofts
    @jmcrofts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I liked the insight into the commanders printed lately like Xyrus and Tinybones that are very pushed, but also very linear. I feel like Wizards keeps overdesigning commanders, making obviously strong cards that require little thought when deckbuilding, and then they end up never reaching the level of popularity of commanders like Jhoira or Golos who are extremely open-ended

  • @TippettRugby
    @TippettRugby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    As a stats nerd I would have loved to see the line graph showing the decline in weekly submissions per commander! Heck I wish that was just generally available on edhrec for all commanders.

  • @TeaHauss
    @TeaHauss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Joey had an epic line

  • @joelthejedi1
    @joelthejedi1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Really liked this one guys. Has inspired me to tear apart some decks and build less linearly.

  • @HeyApples
    @HeyApples 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Vannifar comments about boredom and linear strategies are spot on. Had the same experience with Zur the Enchanter.

  • @generalkohn
    @generalkohn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love my Licia deck! I think some of the reason it's so low in popularity is because you need to devote slots to gain that life efficiently, and then it becomes a huge target once it swings once.

  • @kellylogs2642
    @kellylogs2642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've had this with Syr Gwyn. Never jumped on a deck faster or been so disappointed. She's an equipment commander, not knights, and costs far too much. Lost the red and the equipment, made it Aryel, was much happier.

  • @cinderheart2720
    @cinderheart2720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Has anyone ever told you guys that your intro is an absolute banger?

  • @architectofdreams73
    @architectofdreams73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have a Mairsil deck, he's one of my favorite commanders of all time. I am upset they never put him into MTGO.

  • @colemanholth3740
    @colemanholth3740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I was thinking recently about how different the landscape of commander was when I started playing the format. I know it predates EDHREC, but who remembers when Kresh the Bloodbraided was by far the most played commander?

  • @brendylove4285
    @brendylove4285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My Mairsil deck is essentially activated abilities tribal, I took most of the combo likes out and now I have a lot more fun playing it bc essentially every game I get a different combination of abilities I can use

  • @robertbauerle5592
    @robertbauerle5592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    WHAT! I love Unesh!! He's currently my favorite casual commander, especially with the recent additions of Scholar of the lost trove and Ormos, Archive Keeper from jumpstart. Being able to generate a completely absurd amount of value and play these normally underpowered 6-7 mana sphinx creatures is super satisfying. Also the new thassa and conjurer's closet just feels so good to play with that deck. I'm honestly surprised that he's as unpopular as he is.

  • @maelstromcarl
    @maelstromcarl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    As a player of an Unesh NON-combo Sphinx tribal deck, I was mildly offended by your analysis of my favorite Mono Blue Commander. Just kidding! But he is fun and just the right power level when not doing degenerate combos, and he's a good boi that looks like a flying winged goat-dog. I kinda like he's less popular now, feels more unique for me to play him.

  • @piralos1329
    @piralos1329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    As always, the height of my week! Three very entertaining podcasters and entertainers, explaining a wonderful site and the information they get from it!!

  • @QwaC
    @QwaC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Don't know if it was just at my school, but it was VERY popular to run angel edh decks, so my deck was Bruna, light of alabaster and I had a lot of fun with it when she first came out

  • @pauldyson8098
    @pauldyson8098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Joey, two things:

  • @billcypher564
    @billcypher564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    "if you want to play commanders from jumpstart..."

  • @throbgoblin69
    @throbgoblin69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Speaking of Unesh- it is an EXCELLENT combo piece for draw, like you said. I use him in my Changeling tribal combo deck to go get my combo pieces and to put the ones that I want in the graveyard (The deck also runs Haakon)

  • @ethanwiggen3567
    @ethanwiggen3567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really enjoyed this episode, i was in the camp of trying to build vannifar, and i quickly found that the combo was not fun to play, and often discouraged me when i couldn't get to it. For me in genreal, the first time i build commanders i often maximize their tutors and combo pieces, and that leads to me taking them apart. I've since found commanders with diverse gameplay, or at least tool box aspects that encourage interactive games.

  • @spyrocrash19
    @spyrocrash19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Okay now that I've seen that interaction between Kothophed and Smothering Tithe, I really want to see someone win in an esper deck by using Fractured Identity on their own Kothophed while they have a Smothering Tithe, so that as soon as anyone can't pay for Smothering Tithe the entire table dies because they all were given Kothophed tokens from Fractured Identity.