I think Blizz should just fix it to where even if there are 5 in the group, they don’t make mobs gray out for other groups or individuals. It’s silly that four or less doesn’t cause that to happen, but 5 does.
on the topic of frog farming: the 60k bronze is probably with the lesser charms in mind, for those that dont know the lesser charms of good fortune that drop from the frogs and basically all pandaria enemies can be turned in to (almost) every pandaria faction to increase their reputation, however you also get one of the undetermined gems and one of the bronze chests that contains loot and bronze, both the gems and the loot can be scrapped for bronze so thats probably how they arived at the 60k bronze per hour number
If you start the event with nothing from MoP, you need like 1.6 million bronze to buy it all. That's about 17.1k bronze a day for 95 days. You're either stuck farming frogs or running mythic SoO until your eyes bleed to buy it all. It takes about 54 mythic SoO to get enough bronze to buy everything but excludes upgrading gear and consumables. If you get 60k an hour farming frogs, you're looking at around 7 hours of frog farming. Add in potentially needing over a mjillion to fully upgrade gear and you may be sitting in the 40 hour range. A week of grinding just to enjoy the rest of remix like trying to solo SoO on your own. Is this suddenly a job? Where's the fun? After doing numbers, the event feels tedious. Even after I booted items I can get on live, it still felt terrible. This is a grind event and not fun like they were saying it would be. I feel lied to, especially with the cloak change.
Not to be a jerk but would it be more fun if you logged in and in 5 minutes everything was just given to you? I mean why do You play at all? This is an option that has nothing to do with anything. Why play a board game if all you have to do is put it back in the box at the end? Why play any game? I don't understand people like you.
I'm actually just creating new chars in Remix, make them heal spec (totally overscaled DPS), then do the dailies for scenario and dungeon. And I do each normal and heroic dungeon/scenario to gain that extra daily bronze. I also get me the MoP-Remix only cosmetics and mounts first so I got them put of the way :D everything else can also be collected in retail.
No way this can be. Did you turn in all your lesser charms to the rep quest givers for boxes? That's where a lot of the bronze comes from. The raw bronze drops from frogs is bad
@@stevenkinsey5354 LOL, this is Blizzard. No. This is the same company just just removed the MoP map toy because it gave like 100 bronze. There is no alternative. You can queue Heroics that have more boss health than retail bosses, or you can join raids like Throne of Thunder that take 3 hours full of wildly overtuned one-shot mechanics, or join the extremely broken Siege of Org. But it's okay. Only takes 7000 bronze to upgrade each piece of gear and 1.5mil bronze for all the collectibles. You'll be fine. Enjoy MoP Remix!
@@stevenkinsey5354 yes there is... just run over and over The Secrets of Ragefire hc the extra button is gliched and do 25 m dmg you easy can beat it solo so
I hope they don’t necessarily nerf the frog method. I personally would rather do quests/dungeons/raid, but if other people like this method, they should be allowed to.
From my understanding the gems go away and the gear is replaced by questing gear so you can smoothly go into TWW when it launches. I don’t even know if we even get to keep the massive bags
i pity those spenmding bronze on gear and upgrades lol. I will exclusivly be spending it on mounts > toys > gearsets in that order. Gear is irrelevant in this event and after this event you can gear it to 500 in a week.
Not that it matters because the frogs have been basically ruined, but every monk speck can use the ox statue You also missed the majority of the rewards from the frog farm.... Almost all of the cloak threads and bronze you get is from turning in the lesser charms to one of the reputations for timeless boxes. Every 10 charm is one box and a random prismatic gem
Since got most of the toys and mounts already farming for gear first and after that for mounts and mogs :D hoping they would reduce the cost of upgrading gear now that they nerfed frog farm
I hope everyone that did the frog farm gets rolled back. People having 3k+ stats on their cloak and 460+ gear already is absolutely fucking ridiculous. The fact that they nerfed it implies that it was not intended and therefore everyone who is 2.6k to 3k statted right now should be rolled back to at MOST half of that considering that is what most players who did more legitimate, non nerfed activities for the same amount of time would be at. the 1.5k to 1.6k range. Shit was exploiting and everyone that did it KNEW what they were doing.
The cloak stats on alts is not true, it does not work that way. Blizz was misleading. You DO NOT get your cloak stats on alts. Its a predefined level of stats given to you based on which level Infinite Power achievment you have unlocked on main. If you complete the last one with 4200 threads you only get 100% XP gain on alt, 150 main stat and 750 stamina. All other stats start at 0, and you have to collect it again on alt. Its decent, but its nowhere near getting all your stats from main. Not even close. Actually lame by blizzard tbh.
As usual,the frogs have been nerfed already and the people who already farmed got to keep everything they got (some have shit like 4000 stam etc) and now everyone else is just stuck being underpowered while only a few are "OP" as the Blizz ad states you're supposed to be. So,not ONLY did they change how they exp works from PTR to Live,they also allowed only a certain few get so op they can solo raid bosses then nerfed it into the dirt so no one else can use it. WAY TO GO BLIZZ! Same jackoff bastards as we expected.
I miss the days when the best "exploits" were kept hush-hush, between few people... Now they get nerfed within days because people cant keep their mouths shut.
Couple of questions : Fastest way to level? Is it worth doing HC dungeons and scenarios before 70? Are Raids badly tuned now? I heard that HC raids are insanely hard and one shotty
Fastest way to level is with questing. Worth it? No. Doing Heroics on lvl70 is pain. Start a character that can either tank or heal, spam heroic dungeons and Scenarios as soon as they open up. Will be slower, but you'll get your extra items. If you completed all of them, you can start doing quests, or in the meanwhile try joining normal raids as they are easier done on low lvl. Panda remix is fun, but blizz messed it up with the scaling/low amount of bronze earned/cost of upgrade.
Fastest way to level up: at level 25 join a normal raid, that gives u about +70% XP permamently EVERY TIME u clear it, u can clear it EVERY day, I did it twice and now I have about 250% bonus xp. 2 quests give me 1 level. So I went from level 40 to 60 in like 2 hours and I wasnt even rushing
Hand lesser into rep vender it gives you a quest box with bronze, gear gems upgrade for cloak and it also gives you a random chip box cost 10 lesser good fortune but I spent 3 hours at frogs and after handing in etc I have 40000 stam+ most stats are 3000-5000 I'm sitting on an evoker lvl 70 with close to 2m hp that+ ward= broken game
They promised us an in between "fast" "buffed" event. And all we got was another grindy game. Its impossible to feel strong if you didn't do frogs before the patch and it is also impossible to get all the mounta and items. With that being said i have been enjoying the questing/gearing , i just wish i felt strong without exploiting the game. Play the game=You suck
Event is a scam. a group of lvl 70s should be blasting through everything. instead, we're all dying horribly and unable to do anything. took a little over 3 hours just to kill 4 bosses in throne of thunder last night because everyone kept dying in 2 to 3 hits.
Yeah, lots of false advertising for weeks, with all content creators saying this was supposedly WoW on steroids, super fun, super easy, loot fiesta, bla bla bla. It's fine that it's not so. But the hype was based on big fat lies.
The frog farm DIED 40 minutes ago: no more Lesser Charms of Good Fortune. R.I.P.
damn
I've always wondered why it should be 4 people in those groups. Thank you for explaining it.
I think Blizz should just fix it to where even if there are 5 in the group, they don’t make mobs gray out for other groups or individuals. It’s silly that four or less doesn’t cause that to happen, but 5 does.
on the topic of frog farming:
the 60k bronze is probably with the lesser charms in mind, for those that dont know the lesser charms of good fortune that drop from the frogs and basically all pandaria enemies can be turned in to (almost) every pandaria faction to increase their reputation, however you also get one of the undetermined gems and one of the bronze chests that contains loot and bronze, both the gems and the loot can be scrapped for bronze so thats probably how they arived at the 60k bronze per hour number
Frog Farm was fixed basically before this video released...
If you start the event with nothing from MoP, you need like 1.6 million bronze to buy it all. That's about 17.1k bronze a day for 95 days. You're either stuck farming frogs or running mythic SoO until your eyes bleed to buy it all. It takes about 54 mythic SoO to get enough bronze to buy everything but excludes upgrading gear and consumables. If you get 60k an hour farming frogs, you're looking at around 7 hours of frog farming. Add in potentially needing over a mjillion to fully upgrade gear and you may be sitting in the 40 hour range. A week of grinding just to enjoy the rest of remix like trying to solo SoO on your own. Is this suddenly a job? Where's the fun? After doing numbers, the event feels tedious. Even after I booted items I can get on live, it still felt terrible. This is a grind event and not fun like they were saying it would be. I feel lied to, especially with the cloak change.
The way you play it is a choice.
This is how me and allot of people feel
Not to be a jerk but would it be more fun if you logged in and in 5 minutes everything was just given to you? I mean why do You play at all? This is an option that has nothing to do with anything. Why play a board game if all you have to do is put it back in the box at the end? Why play any game? I don't understand people like you.
People aren’t supposed to get every single cosmetic, only those crazy enough to no life it. I am personally only after a few mounts.
Yeah, the mistake you’re making is trying to get it all, you’re sucking the fun out of it and then complaining that there’s no fun
I'm actually just creating new chars in Remix, make them heal spec (totally overscaled DPS), then do the dailies for scenario and dungeon. And I do each normal and heroic dungeon/scenario to gain that extra daily bronze.
I also get me the MoP-Remix only cosmetics and mounts first so I got them put of the way :D everything else can also be collected in retail.
*skip to **7:35** if you don’t want to go over a tactic that no longer works…*
*Frog farming has been nerfed*
Not looking forward to grinding out this bronze currency...... hope they accelerate the gains soon.
I tried farming frogs, and only got 16k bronze after an hour.
In terms of flying through the bronze motes, I only got 2k after an hour.
No way this can be. Did you turn in all your lesser charms to the rep quest givers for boxes? That's where a lot of the bronze comes from. The raw bronze drops from frogs is bad
they nerfed it already is why
@@tkdshikamaru so no more stat drop???
@@tkdshikamaru I did check farm, no single threat.... how they cpuld nerf it when people already have unlimited stats....
Blizard just clowns....
Nerfed the frogs about 10min ago
Is there an alternative?
@@stevenkinsey5354 LOL, this is Blizzard. No. This is the same company just just removed the MoP map toy because it gave like 100 bronze. There is no alternative. You can queue Heroics that have more boss health than retail bosses, or you can join raids like Throne of Thunder that take 3 hours full of wildly overtuned one-shot mechanics, or join the extremely broken Siege of Org.
But it's okay. Only takes 7000 bronze to upgrade each piece of gear and 1.5mil bronze for all the collectibles. You'll be fine. Enjoy MoP Remix!
@@stevenkinsey5354 Well they gave us a pity 25% increase to bronze gains......so there's that.
@@stevenkinsey5354 yes there is... just run over and over The Secrets of Ragefire hc the extra button is gliched and do 25 m dmg you easy can beat it solo so
At the same time as them nerfing the frogs they also buffed raids and I believe dungeons for both bronze and threads @@stevenkinsey5354
I hope they don’t necessarily nerf the frog method. I personally would rather do quests/dungeons/raid, but if other people like this method, they should be allowed to.
RIP frogs nerfed
@@steeler5696 No?
@@steeler5696 really? Oh man.
Not even just nerfed, it's deleted
its only good for farming bronze now they removed the coins completely
Will the gem abilities disable when it merged to retail when expansion out?
From my understanding the gems go away and the gear is replaced by questing gear so you can smoothly go into TWW when it launches. I don’t even know if we even get to keep the massive bags
Yes.
I hope we get to keep the bags lol
Frogs are fixed now, they don’t drop coins anymore
can i unlock transmog sets from old raids on my hunter for leather or others ?
blizzard patched the frog farm for all coins. ull get 10x less than what you did
Is there a way to change the stats on your cloak? I have around 80 stamina and everything else is around 10 each.
One word “ Scaling “
i pity those spenmding bronze on gear and upgrades lol. I will exclusivly be spending it on mounts > toys > gearsets in that order. Gear is irrelevant in this event and after this event you can gear it to 500 in a week.
Frog Farming is Dead, Updated
after getting my elegon mount and the gold astral, im kinda lost atm. now im just lvling my new alt just to have fun
DO NOT DO FROGS AND GOATS. I just farmed goats for like 1h and got 3,5k bronze, and absolute torture and not worth it at all
Not that it matters because the frogs have been basically ruined, but every monk speck can use the ox statue
You also missed the majority of the rewards from the frog farm.... Almost all of the cloak threads and bronze you get is from turning in the lesser charms to one of the reputations for timeless boxes. Every 10 charm is one box and a random prismatic gem
@kasperlindroth6524 that's correct, they only nerfed farming the charms not the rewards from them
Since got most of the toys and mounts already farming for gear first and after that for mounts and mogs :D hoping they would reduce the cost of upgrading gear now that they nerfed frog farm
drink every time he says "Bronze"
Why it’s parched when many people already abused it? How tf the rest are supposed to catch up to them
forreal I just heard about this and its patched xD and im prolly ahead of most the degens who were farming this LOL
i was planning on trying the remix and now this just killed my motivation for it lol
Four by four groups? Do you mean 4 man groups? Four by four? as in 16? What is a four by four group.
Also cloak stats aren't account bound
Need a guide that isn't frog farming since it was nerfed
I wonder what the Bronze/hr is on frogs post-nerf.
Can someone tell me if the frog farm got nerfed and if so does it still drop bronze and such or ?
''over time its gonna be harder to frog farm due to more and more players'' you REALLY didnt expect them to nerf the hell out of it?
13 hours of frog farm made a shadow priest strong enough to solo normal raids. Had 6 million hp and can do 140million dps.
you meant raids, not dungeons.
@@Gimpo925 yeah it was raids I fixed it.
@@clarkcarlton5722 wasnt me. They guy just no lifed the game for a day and has more power ups than most will get in 90
I hope everyone that did the frog farm gets rolled back. People having 3k+ stats on their cloak and 460+ gear already is absolutely fucking ridiculous. The fact that they nerfed it implies that it was not intended and therefore everyone who is 2.6k to 3k statted right now should be rolled back to at MOST half of that considering that is what most players who did more legitimate, non nerfed activities for the same amount of time would be at. the 1.5k to 1.6k range. Shit was exploiting and everyone that did it KNEW what they were doing.
I have every class on max lvl both ally and horde.. im only doing remix for a few gear sets and mounts, when i get those im not touching remix again😂
Same just the cool mounts and armor sets your literally buying reskins of the same armor if ur buying all of the stuff
The cloak stats on alts is not true, it does not work that way. Blizz was misleading. You DO NOT get your cloak stats on alts. Its a predefined level of stats given to you based on which level Infinite Power achievment you have unlocked on main. If you complete the last one with 4200 threads you only get 100% XP gain on alt, 150 main stat and 750 stamina. All other stats start at 0, and you have to collect it again on alt.
Its decent, but its nowhere near getting all your stats from main. Not even close. Actually lame by blizzard tbh.
RIP Frog Farm.. They shouldn't have disabled it; now people who did it have such an advantage..
Keep the gem you can upgrade them to legendary
the bronze grind sucks, raids are a gear check and dbm check and pugging is
As usual,the frogs have been nerfed already and the people who already farmed got to keep everything they got (some have shit like 4000 stam etc) and now everyone else is just stuck being underpowered while only a few are "OP" as the Blizz ad states you're supposed to be. So,not ONLY did they change how they exp works from PTR to Live,they also allowed only a certain few get so op they can solo raid bosses then nerfed it into the dirt so no one else can use it. WAY TO GO BLIZZ! Same jackoff bastards as we expected.
I miss the days when the best "exploits" were kept hush-hush, between few people... Now they get nerfed within days because people cant keep their mouths shut.
BFA remix "free dino "GG
Couple of questions :
Fastest way to level?
Is it worth doing HC dungeons and scenarios before 70?
Are Raids badly tuned now? I heard that HC raids are insanely hard and one shotty
Fastest way to level is with questing. Worth it? No.
Doing Heroics on lvl70 is pain. Start a character that can either tank or heal, spam heroic dungeons and Scenarios as soon as they open up.
Will be slower, but you'll get your extra items.
If you completed all of them, you can start doing quests, or in the meanwhile try joining normal raids as they are easier done on low lvl.
Panda remix is fun, but blizz messed it up with the scaling/low amount of bronze earned/cost of upgrade.
Fastest way to level up: at level 25 join a normal raid, that gives u about +70% XP permamently EVERY TIME u clear it, u can clear it EVERY day, I did it twice and now I have about 250% bonus xp. 2 quests give me 1 level. So I went from level 40 to 60 in like 2 hours and I wasnt even rushing
Most of the player base is trying to run heroics in low level gear with bad stats and no gems. Those groups will make the dungeons hard
Hand lesser into rep vender it gives you a quest box with bronze, gear gems upgrade for cloak and it also gives you a random chip box cost 10 lesser good fortune but I spent 3 hours at frogs and after handing in etc I have 40000 stam+ most stats are 3000-5000 I'm sitting on an evoker lvl 70 with close to 2m hp that+ ward= broken game
Not many ways to farm, frogs - boring, raids - imposisble takes ages
It´s Fixed now =(
frogs nerfed already
rip frog farm
bit late to the party they nerfed it right after you released the video
@Dalaran Gaming It's NERFERD now u got mabey half ;/
if only someone found a way to make this video shorter, that would help.
nerfed frog farming :(
Bro got Anu'relos :(:
They promised us an in between "fast" "buffed" event. And all we got was another grindy game. Its impossible to feel strong if you didn't do frogs before the patch and it is also impossible to get all the mounta and items. With that being said i have been enjoying the questing/gearing , i just wish i felt strong without exploiting the game. Play the game=You suck
Event is a scam. a group of lvl 70s should be blasting through everything. instead, we're all dying horribly and unable to do anything. took a little over 3 hours just to kill 4 bosses in throne of thunder last night because everyone kept dying in 2 to 3 hits.
yeah this shit was so wrongly advertised lol
Is everyone wearing good gear, or just a bunch of questgreens? I keep getting people in greens from level 52 with nothing socketed.
@@Lucroarna56 all blue anywhere from 320 to 370 sockets filled.
Yeah, lots of false advertising for weeks, with all content creators saying this was supposedly WoW on steroids, super fun, super easy, loot fiesta, bla bla bla. It's fine that it's not so. But the hype was based on big fat lies.
Disregard the first 7 minutes of this video. Frog farming has been nerfed because of videos like this.
why a video with 14 min to explain how to farm fast??? just put it man
RiP frog farm
Frog farm nerfed. Thanks to videos like this. Thanks.
welp guess im not playing remix after that frog farm shenanigans lol
Weak.
@@ArtOfCon-troll weak bait
long vid for 10 sec info. and its nerfed.
Frogs got nerfed don't bother
Frog farm is nerfed check wowhead
nerfed already. before fixing *any* of the other issues.
Was nerfed
Frog method has been nerfed.
Is there an alternative
@@stevenkinsey5354 not that I am aware of
The heroic dungeons are aids, no one knows how to do the bosses.
already nerfd :
wher
Already nerfed...
nerefed.
nerfed..
Outdated
frog farm was never 60k per hour. Just for your information.
Gonna be hilarious when these lazy exploiters get banned or reset lmfao.
I've seen a case or two of people with dissapearing gear. May be a bug though
And yeah, that's hilarious. But thanks to them we got caches buffed
@@AlgoConJuan won't help considering everyone quit after seeing the op nolifers who exploited
Frogs are nerfed!
Funny how youtubers promote exploits
frogfarm got nerft edit the video :P
This is fun and all but people are so quick to reach max lvl that im like okay boomer
50k just isn't true... I'm at 65 and I got 14k so no he is wrong...