I agree with so many of the comments I’ve seen on this page. Why ask about the budget if the consultant is immediately going to choose a dress that is $300+ over budget. Even if Dad owns a Lamborghini there has to be a budget somewhere, and that should be respected. And if Mom is paying that should be respected too.
@@catladyfromky4142 Yes, she did. Sadly I do think she’s old enough to know better; but also the consultant heard Mom say 8 to 10,000 so she’s responsible too. Part of her job is to make sure that a bride doesn’t go over budget.
No esperes que una consultora respete el presupuesto si la madre de la novia tampoco fue muy firme con ello desde el principio. Además, olvidas que la chica está acostumbrada a tenerlo todo, ¿qué son para ella US3000$ más si no los va a pagar? En fin.
The mother should have had a talk with her daughter before they entered the salon and set a budget. She did say between 8 to 10K for the dress, but the real culprit was the salesperson who ignored the suggested price. She was disrespectful of the mother’s budget.
I think it comes back to Mom. "I don't know, 8 to 10?" The shop attendant can hardly say to a patron that she can't try an article on. Have we previously seen the Mom
She should have stuck to the budget 10 grand ain't nothing to sneeze at, that's alot of dough. I'm sure they have many more PNina tornay dresses then the 13,300 price tag that one had.
I agree. The very first dress is more than 30% over mom's upper limit. It makes no sense to start by exceeding the budget by so much, especially when she had a generous budget to start with.
Her mother, who was paying for the dress, set a budget of $8-10K (which is honestly a generous budget for a wedding dress). So the consultant immediately goes and picks one that's over 13 thousand dollars?? They do this all the time and it's so unethical.
Right? And I don't get why they the consultant didn't pull other gowns in a similar style. Instead she pulls a completely different silhouette nothing like the one she liked. I guarantee there were similar dresses for under 10k
Not only do I agree with this post 100%, but I HATE this Pnina dress. So many brides with big budgets have chosen this dress that it’s not at all unique. To me, it’s a ho-hum satin ball gown with fake-looking bling.
That’s actually a great idea, and definitely something that should be brought up in situations like this. Like, either the couple can pay the difference for the dress, or if people are feeling, particularly generous, they can pitch a little bit, and the couple still makes up the difference.
@@laneuvillehelena I cannot imagine having bills due and want an over budget dress and calling my mommy to pay. I call my mom to ask if she needs groceries or a trip to target and lunch.
Her dad was paying for the dress, not the mom. And the mom ALSO had expensive taste. I vaguely remember another televised episode with the daughter and her mother looking for Christian Laboutin shoes for the bridal party. She must not have been so worried about money as you think she was. Perhaps the consultant knew some of that.
Kylie, I don't think he does. I can't imagine this marriage lasting because there's no way the nee husband could afford to keep her in the "style" she's used to. I think they are very tacky but, hey that's just me.
@@sirenuk5887 To be fair she said 8 to 10 & under.. she also didn't look too sure on the 8-10 part. I feel like she'd have wanted to cap it around 5 but didn't want princess to be upset & disappointed. Idk but that's the vibe I was getting from her when she was looking at her daughter thinking of what to say for the budget.
I would NEVER even ask my parents to pay for something over budget! She is behaving like an entitled brat and dishonoring her mom by putting her in that situation. The consultant putting her in that dress when she knows it's over budget is just manipulation.
I feel bad for the mom. The consultant definitely showed the bride two dresses that she knew the bride would not want. Of course she would choose the first one. 😂😂😂
Parents were rightfully fined for producing an airhead that chases brand names and conspicuous purchases as a signalling of their personal value. Father has stupid impractical car. Mother clearly spends a fortune on her appearance, when she would look better with a 50% reduction on food purchases. Just a pity that money doesn't go to homeless
@@georgielancaster1356 You do understand that just because you find fat people unattractive doesn't mean everyone does 🤦🏽♀️😅 not everybody is bothered if they're overweight.
@@georgielancaster1356 Also you do realise people can be overweight because of medical conditions? Jumping to Oh she should stop eating is ridiculous. It shows you're shallow & a bully.
@@georgielancaster1356 your comments were quite rude & judgmental. Yes the daughtet is clearly spoiled,but thats no reason to be rude especially about the mothers weight
Some people think the amount they (or their parents or spouse) spend reflects their value and worth. Total BS of course. Better to have some true self-esteem and love and know clothes and cars are only false and fleeting symbols.
AGREE.. the dress sucked.. the tight one was nice.. I married in DRESS BArn dress for 20$. I was not into thrifting back then.. today, it would have been a 2$ thrift store dress!
My dress was somewhere around the same, no bling anywhere lol. It was a Gunne Sax with long sleeves, high neck, floor length all around. One of my cousins had a big tiered lace southern Belle gown and matching hat, fancy reception, etc and was divorced within a year. Her sisters dress was satin, matching hat, out of season fresh flowers, also divorced almost instantly. We are still married 35 years later, literally been through the in sickness and in health, etc and yet we have made it this far.
The more money spent on dress/wedding usually indicates the shortness of marriage. Values on every level screwed. There is NOTHING clever about spending a fortune on wedding/dress. Usually indicates an airhead with a total lack of judgement.
If the bride doesn't like it or the mom decides that it is over the amount she will spend, then Ellie will get $0 commission. The first priority is to please the bride. And the bride said there was no budget, so apparently she thinks she can get her father to pay for it.
No. The bride is spoiled. Daddy has a Lamborghini. She doesn't care what mom says. The consultants are very careful to stay in budget knowing that if it goes out that there is a problem.
She has a sweetness to her, but bragging like that is unbecoming and sort of annoying I’m sure the show maybe had her play it up a little, but I am sure not too much…
What a selfish bride. She didn't even blink at the 3000 dollar price point ABOVE budget. Why doesn't she pay the difference herself? VERY unprofessional of the consultant to ignore the budget in such a way.
So annoying that they ask for budget and the first dress they pull is $3K over! Puts Mom in a most uncomfortable position. c'mon! I hope the groom makes a good salary, I think this bride is spoiled badly and wants to get whatever she wants regardless of how it affects a budget.
The first bride was crazy concerned about her wants, totally disregarding the mom's budget. Beautiful lady, but entitled. And that gown 🙄. Why on earth was it so expensive.
My first reaction to the $13.3k dress was I wonder how many uninsured kids could get a dental exam, preventative healthcare, or fed a meal for that. Granted I am a nurse but the excess of that dress and her lack of consideration was something I simply cannot identify with. Good luck hubby!
If you look at her face, she's smiling until the consultant says it's only 7k and that's when her face changes. I feel like she wants a more expensive dress because the more expensive it is, the better she feels.
@@cristinagarcia7470 Yup. That's why parents need to be teaching their children from a young age to be humble, gracious, grateful, and to live a comfortable life with the absence of excessive.
Wow, she’s a piece of work. A surgeon’s work, a colourist’s work, a hairdresser’s work, an aesthetician’s work, a makeup artist’s work. Did she really have to bring up daddy’s Lambo in the description of her fiancé? Blech.
See how her face literally dropped when she heard the 2nd dress was only $7k? 😅 If it'd cost more than the 1st dress no doubt it would've been the dress she's been dreaming of all her life. Ugh. I Love Randy (and I'd take his gowns over Pnina Tornai every time) but I prefer watching Atlanta, fewer spoilt insipid princesses, and more real brides with real budgets. 🤷
@@emmadsq I made the same comment! They should not have shown first dress at all - and then shown every $8,000 ish dress and told her they were $20,000. AND taken the mother aside to warn her. She was going for the most expensive dress whatever it looked like. However, I think the parents deserve a $5,000 fine for raising a brand name, cost obsessed vacuous airhead. Just a pity that money doesn't go to the homeless or to buy outrageously overpriced medications for ill Americans.
@@georgielancaster1356 I mean, the money does go to pay someone's wages. What country they're in, I don't know. But I'd rather pay wages than handouts.
Notice how the other dresses she tried are COMPLETELY different from what she wanted. They could’ve shown her dresses that was similar to the first one that were actually in budget, but they just wanted the money. That saleswoman and Randy were so wrong for that
Budget 8-10. So of course, first one is 3,000 over budget. 🤦♀️ They're putting the Mom in an uncomfortable position. And pressure her to cough up the dough.
The first bride is proof that money can't buy class. My whole wedding (16 years ago), was 13,000 and it was beautiful, as was my 800 dollar dress. I can't imagine spending 13,000 on a dress, especially when it looks as tacky and unoriginal as that dress. I happen to love over the top bling, but that dress just looks cheap!
agree completely, my wedding 2 years ago was £2000 and i loved my £200 pink wedding dress which is usable as a ballgown/evening gown so reusable for other events
The mom is clearly not a fan of the dress but supports her daughter in a loving way. 💜 Hope, she had a side talk with the sales person who ignored the budget, though.
That dress is absolutely beautiful, but I’m surprised at Kleinfelts for putting her in a dress that was way over budget. Why ask for a budget if you are going to ignore it? That was a really irresponsible thing to do, & I felt sorry for her mum.
I AGREE I FEEL HORRIFIED THAT THE BUDGET WAS IGNORED !!! IT SEEMED AS THOUGH THE BRIDE AVOIDED LOOKING AT HER MOMMA ,, SHE APPEARED TO BE PRETTY SPOILED !!!! I HATED THIS STORYLINE !! OT MADE ME SAD !!!!! 😥
The bride said that there really was no budget. Her mom wanted it to stay around $10,000, but she didn't act like it was very firm. Both of them acted like they wanted the best of the best, and that costs.
@@tyronzasmith3735 Exactly! What the parents pay is a gift. No one has the right to demand a certain size gift. She can pay the difference if she really wants it.
@@somebody-br2hm It’s disrespectful for the consultant to ask the mother what the budget was, and then put the girl in the first dress and it was $4000 over the HIGH end of that budget. The girl was obviously a spoiled rich girl, but the mother’s budget should have been considered. If the mother hadn’t been willing to go the extra, it could have been a disaster…
And now her other 2 daughters are going to expect her to pay at least 13,000 for their dresses too. She was kinda rude in going over the budge her mother set. I could see the fear in her moms eyes at that price.
There's definitely a "type" that likes these kinds of dresses. She could be a lovely young woman, but the level of fake and showy is distasteful. I did like the colour of the dress, but all of that gaudy bling was yucky.
Well you have to hand it to Pnina. She found her target market, and is taking it for all its worth. Tasteless and overpriced is exactly what these women want. The tasteful and subtle brides, who stay within a modest budget don’t usually get showcased in these programs. The show's producers are looking for the drama, and conflict.
a lot of pnina's dresses are gorgeous, they just tend to have a lot of drama which is what plenty of people look for in a wedding gown. the dresses they pull from pnina's collection on the show say more about the brides than the designer. she has plenty of romantic gowns that are worth the price tag, these just.... aren't.
That dress looks like it should be on a Las Vegas show girl!! There were thousands of other gowns available with a lot of bling that would have been more tasteful, and within BUDGET!
The price tag is def swaying her to the first dress. You can tell she’s about brand, cost and making a statement. This was evident from the first few words out of her mouth raving on about picking her fiancé up in a Lamborghini. She could have just said I picked him up in my dads car but no we had the drop the fact that it was a Lamborghini. Love is not about a price tag sweetheart. When your older you’ll learn that.
Yes. There was another clip where the bride said “if he sees I want a dress over budget enough daddy will cave and spend the extra money.” Then she got a dress $2k over her father’s budget. Makes me sick.
Maybe Kleinfelds fine vacuous airheads with OTT dresses? I wouldn't mind if they donated $5000 to the homeless or buying meds for ill Americans who can't afford the prices American companirs gouge them.
Shame on Kleinfield’s. They showed her a dress over $ 3,000 over her budget. Ridiculous. $ 13,000 would make a great down payment on a house. To spend it on a dress you wear once is stupid.
I love watching these I love watching Randy and kleinfelt employees but why ask for a budget if you're not going to present the bride dresses that are within her budget they're always going at least three to five thousand dollars over the budget I just don't think that's very nice but I still love Randy
No no no. I've watched say yes to dress from kleinfelds and Randy, and it's rare they go over budget and certainly more rare thats it's thousands over.
I agree with you but this is the one time I actually don't feel bad for the bride for them picking a dress way over budget; she's such an entitled over-indulged princess.
I really hate it when consultants put brides in dresses over budget. When I went wedding dress shopping I said I didn’t want to go over £1,500 and the consultant helped me looking with dresses around that price
How can someone pay 13,000 for a dress that is one of the top selling dresses of Kleinfield? It is not a unique designer model, it is at this point a mass selling product that many brides have worn.
Omg I hope the husband to be is patient, she bride is high maintenance! Unfortunately even at her age is still behaving like a spoilt brat and totally disrespected the budget her mother set, didn't help that the staff didn't comply as well
In order to get the new episodes, we have to buy them, and they're not worth the money. And you're right, ths is an old episode, I believe from 2010, if I remember correctly. Just look at how young Randy is.
I used to want a dress from here. Until I found a dress shop that has so many beautiful dresses with rhinestone, sequins, anything you want for literally a fourth of the price of these expensive dresses. I got my dress for $1800. And it was everything!
I hate it how everybody (including Randy in a way) pushed the mother to spend over her budget! So unconsiderate of a daughter! At first I thought the mom of the bride in the fitting room was Diane's sister: they look so much alike!
I wouldn’t have put my mother in that situation. 10k is incredibly generous and what her mother could afford. She pushed for the expensive dress, without offering to pay the extra herself, then forgot to say a huge thank you. 🤯
I love the dress. It is absolutely perfect for her personality. But I hate how the consultants don't respect the budget. $3k over? Are they mental? They should not have even shown her the dress.
I am so glad that when I got married I got married in a nice outfit. I don't see spending $10,000 or more or even $1,000 on one dress that you only going to wear once.
@@Dina-lc4bt I got married in a nice short sleeve sweater top and slacks at the courthouse and it was better going through all the trouble with trying to deal with a big wedding that neither of us could afford and buying a dress I'm never going to wear again.
Why is there such an emphasis upon wearing an overpriced wedding dress for one day when the bride and groom cannot afford it? Respect the family's and or friend's budget and consider their obligations/circumstances. Remember the giver might unconsciously feel obligated: They throw the price of the gown in the couples' face throughout the marriage and especially beyond. They feel entitled to the wedding and or wedding dress conforming to their wishes. When my sister married, she rented her designer gown plus the ball gown for the MOH (including alterations) and returned it along with the groom's tux. They spent greater sums of money on purchasing homes, cars and travel.
This consultant made a MAJOR mistake (which I thought was EXTREMELY rude and unprofessional) when she chose to completely disrespect and ignore Mom's budget of $10,000 and she put the bride in her "dream dress".... a dress that was $3000 OVER Mom's very generous $10,000 budget...and she has the bride come out in THAT dress as the VERY FIRST dress to show the family, so OF COURSE the bride fell in love with that dress because the higher price allows for higher quality in the fabric and detailing of the dress. So naturally, anything cheaper is going to be a major disappointment for the bride, because (as we saw happen) the bride fell in love with the first dress (which DID look stunning on her) and wasn't happy in any of the other dresses because they couldn't compare to that first dress, being of lesser quality. And now, she and the consultant are going to try and leech another $3000 out of the Mom. I think if the bride wants to go over budget, she should foot the extra cost herself....ESPECIALLY if its that much over budget. There is a difference between going a couple hundred dollars over and THREE THOUSAND dollars over. Thankfully for her, Mom was willing to give her daughter her perfect dream dress, but a LOT of times, I've seen the bride leave brokenhearted and empty-handed, because Mom can't pay for the dress. And I am SHOCKED that Randy wasn't more respectful of Mom's budget and encouraged the bride to go for the more expensive dress. It was a strategic manipulation on the consultant's part. She recognized this family as one of those who can invest 10 grand in a dress, so she put that dress first, hoping to impress the bride so she would get a more expensive dress sold (and for her, a much better commission, I'm sure) and it worked this time.
Her mom really didn't want to spend that much money. With the alterations, veil, and shoes you just know it's going to be close to $20k, and she hasn't even gotten hair and makeup done.
I’ve noticed this with Kleinfeld. All of the consultants show dresses that are right at the maximum budget, or higher. Which in my opinion is not right. It may be a decent marketing technique, but if I were shopping for a dress and a consultant showed me a dress over budget, I would confront them and politely ask for ones in my range.
First bride: you want something over an excessive budget, cough up the extra money yourself! Randy and company: you present something over budget, you need to be prepared to to discount!
She says that she likes to dress up in expensive jewelry, designer gowns, etc..."It's what I love." Well most of us love that too but apparently can't afford to indulge ourselves in that "hobby." She acts like it is her hobby so she should get to do it just as someone else loves to garden or read books. What a spoiled piece of work!
How hard is it to find a sweetheart ballgown with some bling and not too much tulle that is 10k or under? I feel like that describes a TON of dresses and yet they only showed her a 13k dress and then some dresses that she didn’t ask for.
This is a very old episode. Gok may not even have been in a bridal salon then. And the bride and her mom wanted to show off their wealth, so I doubt a £2000 dress would cut it. IDK why you think that Gok would have anything that she would want.
At 02:13 Randy, i think, Randy showed the price to the bride (or i might be wrong), so I think the bride knows the dress is over the budget her mother set
Can’t fathom spending $10,000 on a dress I wear ONCE. The whole idea of diamonds and white wedding dresses was a marketing scheme. A wedding is one day, a marriage is a lifetime. I’d invest in my future.
Her Mom looks like she's afraid to tell her daughter no. They should have respected her Mother and her budget and not show her dresses sooo expensive. But Mom seemed ok with it in the end and she really did look beautiful.
I always wait for the bride or the groom to finish the sentence, "He/she will do anything for me and I just love him/her," with and "I'll do anything for him/her as I just love him/her so much." When I don't hear something reciprocal, I get worried.
I was going to get married in my Mom’s wedding dress. (Wedding didn’t happen). I could never ask for them to spend so much money for a dress I’d wear once after they were paying for the band, flowers and reception.
I love how the clickbait title tries to make it sound like the entourage is being mean here, when the consultant and bride picked a dress that was almost $4000 over the budget range the mom gave.
@@cjpv1972 He ONLY works for the bail bonds man father who owns the company. He better get FAT pockets pretty quick ...as she is all about the designer labels and empty inside.
I agree with so many of the comments I’ve seen on this page. Why ask about the budget if the consultant is immediately going to choose a dress that is $300+ over budget. Even if Dad owns a Lamborghini there has to be a budget somewhere, and that should be respected.
And if Mom is paying that should be respected too.
It was $3,000 over budget. You missed a ZERO.
The bride made the impression that there really was no budget.
@@barbarafrost6337 Yes, I absolutely did miss a zero. Was definitely typing too fast. Thanks for catching my mistake.
@@catladyfromky4142 Yes, she did. Sadly I do think she’s old enough to know better; but also the consultant heard Mom say 8 to 10,000 so she’s responsible too. Part of her job is to make sure that a bride doesn’t go over budget.
No esperes que una consultora respete el presupuesto si la madre de la novia tampoco fue muy firme con ello desde el principio. Además, olvidas que la chica está acostumbrada a tenerlo todo, ¿qué son para ella US3000$ más si no los va a pagar? En fin.
The mother should have had a talk with her daughter before they entered the salon and set a budget. She did say between 8 to 10K for the dress, but the real culprit was the salesperson who ignored the suggested price. She was disrespectful of the mother’s budget.
I think it comes back to Mom. "I don't know, 8 to 10?" The shop attendant can hardly say to a patron that she can't try an article on. Have we previously seen the Mom
@@dy9278 Yes, this is the bride (and mom) who went to the garment district to find a veil and were initially a little freaked out by it.
Sick of seeing that first dress
She should have stuck to the budget 10 grand ain't nothing to sneeze at, that's alot of dough. I'm sure they have many more PNina tornay dresses then the 13,300 price tag that one had.
Yes, definitely! 😠
Has any parent ever asked ‘Why did you show dresses above my budget? Don’t show something you can’t get discounted to meet my budget.’ sheesh
I would say if you show a dress above budget and that includes alterations you pay the rest
@@AnniCarlsson Yes, that’s a better way of putting it. I sometimes have a problem with being too confrontational in these situations!
I agree. The very first dress is more than 30% over mom's upper limit. It makes no sense to start by exceeding the budget by so much, especially when she had a generous budget to start with.
@@beverlywallace4920 The response to her ‘this is my budget’ was, ‘We’ll start there!’ Literally the words!! I can’t even. argh
So rude to start way over budget.
Her mother, who was paying for the dress, set a budget of $8-10K (which is honestly a generous budget for a wedding dress). So the consultant immediately goes and picks one that's over 13 thousand dollars?? They do this all the time and it's so unethical.
Yup.. Again! But I would have said: If you want that dress, I'll pay $10.000 and you pay $3300.. That's fair isn't it? 😉
Right? And I don't get why they the consultant didn't pull other gowns in a similar style. Instead she pulls a completely different silhouette nothing like the one she liked. I guarantee there were similar dresses for under 10k
@@jonnynjackie they pull out only dresses that they know she’s going to hate just to make it seem worth the money
Not only do I agree with this post 100%, but I HATE this Pnina dress. So many brides with big budgets have chosen this dress that it’s not at all unique. To me, it’s a ho-hum satin ball gown with fake-looking bling.
@@misspearltaylor I have always thought this. I never understand why people love it so much.
I see this Pnina gown in every episode. They must never run out of them 😂
Yea can u imagine in 2022 we r still seeing it
@@priyankadsa3488 oh my gosh I know right. definitely not my future wedding dress
@@scxrlatte Yes, same. It's so gaudy! 👎🏻
I've never seen it before.
This is a very old episode.
Make 👏🏼 the lovely couple 👏🏼 pay 👏🏼 the 👏🏼 difference 👏🏼 parents. I bet they’ll think longer and harder about that budget.
Right? I bet she has 3.000 dollars to pay the difference!
@@mxflint1715 doesn’t matter if she had it or not. Mom said $10k max and the consultant immediately went over it.
That’s actually a great idea, and definitely something that should be brought up in situations like this. Like, either the couple can pay the difference for the dress, or if people are feeling, particularly generous, they can pitch a little bit, and the couple still makes up the difference.
Nobody should marry before they can manage a budget
@@laneuvillehelena I cannot imagine having bills due and want an over budget dress and calling my mommy to pay. I call my mom to ask if she needs groceries or a trip to target and lunch.
She said the budget was $8k to $10k and the first dress is $13k. Can we say upselling? Hate that.
Her dad was paying for the dress, not the mom. And the mom ALSO had expensive taste. I vaguely remember another televised episode with the daughter and her mother looking for Christian Laboutin shoes for the bridal party.
She must not have been so worried about money as you think she was. Perhaps the consultant knew some of that.
@@catladyfromky4142 don't matter. If budget say top 10k it's top 10k.
The sales assistants are utter POS
she also said no budget
$13,300 before tax, alterations, cleaning and accessories!!!
This girl knows she can dance right over any monetary limits. Privilege and no respect.
I wonder if her fiancée knows what he is in for.
Kylie, I don't think he does. I can't imagine this marriage lasting because there's no way the nee husband could afford to keep her in the "style" she's used to.
I think they are very tacky but, hey that's just me.
I'm guessing they're thinking if u can afford $10g 3 extra will not matter 🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️
@@sirenuk5887 To be fair she said 8 to 10 & under.. she also didn't look too sure on the 8-10 part. I feel like she'd have wanted to cap it around 5 but didn't want princess to be upset & disappointed. Idk but that's the vibe I was getting from her when she was looking at her daughter thinking of what to say for the budget.
I would NEVER even ask my parents to pay for something over budget! She is behaving like an entitled brat and dishonoring her mom by putting her in that situation. The consultant putting her in that dress when she knows it's over budget is just manipulation.
It's so disrespectful that the sales people never stay in a budget
At least a couple of them ask if there’s wiggle room before showing dresses out of budget. This girl just straight went for $3.3k over
That's not true - most of them do stay in budget - but I've seen Ellie go over multiple times.
With this girl, I don't think it's unethical. Why not take advantage of obnoxious people?
it would put me off going to Kleinfeld.
I like when the second bride's mom said she wanted her in a princess dress, but she's not 16 anymore and should get what she loves. Good job mom!💙
That wasn't her mom, she's one of the owners of the shop who just happens to be a close family friend of that girl.
yep. Though I think the third dress she tried on was the best. It was a thousand times more flattering.
I feel bad for the mom. The consultant definitely showed the bride two dresses that she knew the bride would not want. Of course she would choose the first one. 😂😂😂
Parents were rightfully fined for producing an airhead that chases brand names and conspicuous purchases as a signalling of their personal value.
Father has stupid impractical car. Mother clearly spends a fortune on her appearance, when she would look better with a 50% reduction on food purchases.
Just a pity that money doesn't go to homeless
You seen through their tricks.
@@georgielancaster1356 You do understand that just because you find fat people unattractive doesn't mean everyone does 🤦🏽♀️😅 not everybody is bothered if they're overweight.
@@georgielancaster1356 Also you do realise people can be overweight because of medical conditions? Jumping to Oh she should stop eating is ridiculous. It shows you're shallow & a bully.
@@georgielancaster1356 your comments were quite rude & judgmental. Yes the daughtet is clearly spoiled,but thats no reason to be rude especially about the mothers weight
I do not like Panina's dresses. It's overpriced, the way the bling is done, comes across tacky.
Same here👍
💯so agree.
Yes. Tacky is what I think when I see most of her gowns.
I know right
Well for starters it’s Pnina, secondly I’d have to disagree. Although I am a bling person lol. But to each their own opinion.
The mom was put on the spot! She told them what the budget was and her daughter didn’t even care much less the staff.
Well when her parents are rich 3000 more I like a pair of cheao sunglasses
I was seeing fear in the mom‘s eyes. She was on TV and unable to say what she really wanted to say to her daughter.
I will never understand spending 13k on any dress. My wedding dress cost all of $140 and it was beautiful. Must be nice to have money to just burn.
Some people think the amount they (or their parents or spouse) spend reflects their value and worth. Total BS of course. Better to have some true self-esteem and love and know clothes and cars are only false and fleeting symbols.
AGREE.. the dress sucked.. the tight one was nice.. I married in DRESS BArn dress for 20$. I was not into thrifting back then.. today, it would have been a 2$ thrift store dress!
My dress was somewhere around the same, no bling anywhere lol. It was a Gunne Sax with long sleeves, high neck, floor length all around. One of my cousins had a big tiered lace southern Belle gown and matching hat, fancy reception, etc and was divorced within a year. Her sisters dress was satin, matching hat, out of season fresh flowers, also divorced almost instantly. We are still married 35 years later, literally been through the in sickness and in health, etc and yet we have made it this far.
The more money spent on dress/wedding usually indicates the shortness of marriage. Values on every level screwed.
There is NOTHING clever about spending a fortune on wedding/dress. Usually indicates an airhead with a total lack of judgement.
@@almohvn33 Lol. My sort of chum!
The assistant is gleefully counting her massive commission on this one. 💰💰💰💰
Especially with the “if we put you back in it your mom will cave”
If the bride doesn't like it or the mom decides that it is over the amount she will spend, then Ellie will get $0 commission. The first priority is to please the bride. And the bride said there was no budget, so apparently she thinks she can get her father to pay for it.
No. The bride is spoiled. Daddy has a Lamborghini. She doesn't care what mom says. The consultants are very careful to stay in budget knowing that if it goes out that there is a problem.
Even though it was incredibly awkward she did manage to squeeze in the Lamborghini so we'd all know about it. LOL
Lmao exactly! Like I picked him up in my dads F-150. 😆😂😂
The "lambo". Sheesh.
The mom visibly squirmed in her seat over an extra $3k. That lambo was leased, & they’re financed rich. Nothing to be envious of.
She absolutely NEEDED to tell us she likes DESIGNER clothes and her dad owns a LAMBOx3 so tacky 😂
i paused and had to look for a comment that noticed the intro 😭
@@DarkestRuby7 SAME!!! I've had it up to my *here* with Entitled People
She has a sweetness to her, but bragging like that is unbecoming and sort of annoying
I’m sure the show maybe had her play it up a little, but I am sure not too much…
If she likes designer clothes and expensive cars so much she should be paying for her own dress.
💯...yes 😅
What a selfish bride. She didn't even blink at the 3000 dollar price point ABOVE budget. Why doesn't she pay the difference herself? VERY unprofessional of the consultant to ignore the budget in such a way.
So annoying that they ask for budget and the first dress they pull is $3K over! Puts Mom in a most uncomfortable position. c'mon!
I hope the groom makes a good salary, I think this bride is spoiled badly and wants to get whatever she wants regardless of how it affects a budget.
I've seen this particular Pnina gown so much that I'm surprised brides are still going for it. I swear it's the #1 selling gown at Kleinfelds!
Realize that this is an old video. New collections come in every year.
The first bride was crazy concerned about her wants, totally disregarding the mom's budget. Beautiful lady, but entitled. And that gown 🙄. Why on earth was it so expensive.
Not beautiful at all.. spolied.. and.. entitled.. and... divorced in 2 years.
My first reaction to the $13.3k dress was I wonder how many uninsured kids could get a dental exam, preventative healthcare, or fed a meal for that. Granted I am a nurse but the excess of that dress and her lack of consideration was something I simply cannot identify with. Good luck hubby!
If you look at her face, she's smiling until the consultant says it's only 7k and that's when her face changes. I feel like she wants a more expensive dress because the more expensive it is, the better she feels.
@@plumsmom8043 The glories of capitalism.
@@cristinagarcia7470 Yup. That's why parents need to be teaching their children from a young age to be humble, gracious, grateful, and to live a comfortable life with the absence of excessive.
Wow, she’s a piece of work. A surgeon’s work, a colourist’s work, a hairdresser’s work, an aesthetician’s work, a makeup artist’s work. Did she really have to bring up daddy’s Lambo in the description of her fiancé? Blech.
See how her face literally dropped when she heard the 2nd dress was only $7k? 😅 If it'd cost more than the 1st dress no doubt it would've been the dress she's been dreaming of all her life. Ugh. I Love Randy (and I'd take his gowns over Pnina Tornai every time) but I prefer watching Atlanta, fewer spoilt insipid princesses, and more real brides with real budgets. 🤷
Agreed. I felt sorry for her mother - $3-5,000 OVER BUDGET! "I need all the bling". Pathetic.
Exactly, hideous all round
@@emmadsq I made the same comment! They should not have shown first dress at all - and then shown every $8,000 ish dress and told her they were $20,000. AND taken the mother aside to warn her. She was going for the most expensive dress whatever it looked like.
However, I think the parents deserve a $5,000 fine for raising a brand name, cost obsessed vacuous airhead.
Just a pity that money doesn't go to the homeless or to buy outrageously overpriced medications for ill Americans.
@@georgielancaster1356 I mean, the money does go to pay someone's wages. What country they're in, I don't know. But I'd rather pay wages than handouts.
Bride: Do you love it?!
Sister: Totally you!
That’s a tactful sister right there. She obviously didn’t like it, but she found a way to be supportive.
Notice how the other dresses she tried are COMPLETELY different from what she wanted. They could’ve shown her dresses that was similar to the first one that were actually in budget, but they just wanted the money. That saleswoman and Randy were so wrong for that
They also don't show you all the dresses she tries on - only the ones that make for good tv.
Bride wanted Pnina dresses and they showed her the only 2 ball gowns that are cheaper than this one.
i'm really shocked at Randy, he is usually more respectful of budget. I think he knew the family was loaded and would pay the difference regardless.
Budget 8-10. So of course, first one is 3,000 over budget. 🤦♀️ They're putting the Mom in an uncomfortable position. And pressure her to cough up the dough.
The mom wasn't paying for it - the dad was.
The first bride is proof that money can't buy class.
My whole wedding (16 years ago), was 13,000 and it was beautiful, as was my 800 dollar dress. I can't imagine spending 13,000 on a dress, especially when it looks as tacky and unoriginal as that dress. I happen to love over the top bling, but that dress just looks cheap!
I agree about the dress appearance : I’ve seen more beautiful dresses for $2000
Awful dress particularly the bottom
I had a $200 ruby colored dress off the rack and five guests including my dog.
A dog is the best guest of all!
agree completely, my wedding 2 years ago was £2000 and i loved my £200 pink wedding dress which is usable as a ballgown/evening gown so reusable for other events
@@kimberlycox2602 that sounds so pretty!!! I love a ballgown!
The mom is clearly not a fan of the dress but supports her daughter in a loving way. 💜
Hope, she had a side talk with the sales person who ignored the budget, though.
Honestly I opinion is always, if they want a dress over budget, why don’t they offer to pay the extra. That’s always possible.
That dress is absolutely beautiful, but I’m surprised at Kleinfelts for putting her in a dress that was way over budget. Why ask for a budget if you are going to ignore it? That was a really irresponsible thing to do, & I felt sorry for her mum.
I AGREE I FEEL HORRIFIED THAT THE BUDGET WAS IGNORED !!! IT SEEMED AS THOUGH THE BRIDE AVOIDED LOOKING AT HER MOMMA ,, SHE APPEARED TO BE PRETTY SPOILED !!!! I HATED THIS STORYLINE !! OT MADE ME SAD !!!!! 😥
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The bride said that there really was no budget. Her mom wanted it to stay around $10,000, but she didn't act like it was very firm. Both of them acted like they wanted the best of the best, and that costs.
@@catladyfromky4142 right & I think if the bride goes over what the mom says she wants to stay around she should pay the difference
@@tyronzasmith3735 Exactly! What the parents pay is a gift. No one has the right to demand a certain size gift. She can pay the difference if she really wants it.
Jesus, 10k is a more than generous budget. There is absolutely no reason that they needed to show her ANYTHING over that price point.
Her mom said 8 to 10. Disrespectful.
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Im sorry am i missing smth ? Why was that disrespectul?
@@somebody-br2hm I think you missed it. Taking advantage of her mothers cringed face request max 10k.
Besides her mother didn't like it?
@@somebody-br2hm It’s disrespectful for the consultant to ask the mother what the budget was, and then put the girl in the first dress and it was $4000 over the HIGH end of that budget. The girl was obviously a spoiled rich girl, but the mother’s budget should have been considered. If the mother hadn’t been willing to go the extra, it could have been a disaster…
@@marlene7969 I think the mother going the extra was the disaster.
And now her other 2 daughters are going to expect her to pay at least 13,000 for their dresses too. She was kinda rude in going over the budge her mother set. I could see the fear in her moms eyes at that price.
Well.. she could have said 50/50.. 😉
@@J.W.vanVeen I highly doubt “daddy’s little princess” has a job since she was bragging about everybody else’s accomplishments but hers.
And here we are with another episode of "Say yes to an overpriced yet classless Pinina Tornai's dress".
There's definitely a "type" that likes these kinds of dresses. She could be a lovely young woman, but the level of fake and showy is distasteful. I did like the colour of the dress, but all of that gaudy bling was yucky.
Haha best comment ever
Well you have to hand it to Pnina. She found her target market, and is taking it for all its worth. Tasteless and overpriced is exactly what these women want. The tasteful and subtle brides, who stay within a modest budget don’t usually get showcased in these programs. The show's producers are looking for the drama, and conflict.
Pinina dresses are ridiculous. This dress looked silly on the bride.
a lot of pnina's dresses are gorgeous, they just tend to have a lot of drama which is what plenty of people look for in a wedding gown. the dresses they pull from pnina's collection on the show say more about the brides than the designer. she has plenty of romantic gowns that are worth the price tag, these just.... aren't.
Poor mom. The moment you know you’ll have to shell out at least 13 grand two more times…
It's a well deserved FINE for raising an airhead that only values brand names and cost. No common sense, no real values.
Mom's a major shopaholic too..there's a full episode of their wedding n mom ordered some expensive shoe brand in different sizes n she kept them all!
That dress looks like it should be on a Las Vegas show girl!! There were thousands of other gowns available with a lot of bling that would have been more tasteful, and within BUDGET!
The price tag is def swaying her to the first dress. You can tell she’s about brand, cost and making a statement. This was evident from the first few words out of her mouth raving on about picking her fiancé up in a Lamborghini. She could have just said I picked him up in my dads car but no we had the drop the fact that it was a Lamborghini. Love is not about a price tag sweetheart. When your older you’ll learn that.
It really pisses me off that the bride doesn't respect the budget of her parents
Yes. There was another clip where the bride said “if he sees I want a dress over budget enough daddy will cave and spend the extra money.” Then she got a dress $2k over her father’s budget. Makes me sick.
i swear the 13,000 dollar dress must be sponsored or the consultants are told to sell it 💀 if i see this dress one more time 😂
Maybe Kleinfelds fine vacuous airheads with OTT dresses? I wouldn't mind if they donated $5000 to the homeless or buying meds for ill Americans who can't afford the prices American companirs gouge them.
I don’t even think it’s pretty
@@elaineplante8116 I agree and I don’t find it that great.
Yes it must be because I’ve seen it a million times also in magazines and bridal websites
You know, being around for some time does not make a dress worse.
Shame on Kleinfield’s. They showed her a dress over $ 3,000 over her budget. Ridiculous.
$ 13,000 would make a great down payment on a house. To spend it on a dress you wear once is stupid.
I love watching these I love watching Randy and kleinfelt employees but why ask for a budget if you're not going to present the bride dresses that are within her budget they're always going at least three to five thousand dollars over the budget I just don't think that's very nice but I still love Randy
No no no. I've watched say yes to dress from kleinfelds and Randy, and it's rare they go over budget and certainly more rare thats it's thousands over.
Most women don’t know how much it costs to get what they want? They turn down the ones they can afford so why not push it?
She had to brag that her Dad has a Lamborghini. Why would you have a budget?
@@cherylholub3100 may be a nice girl idk but sounds like she has no accomplishments of her own to 'brag' about.....
A bit entitled I think k.
I agree with you but this is the one time I actually don't feel bad for the bride for them picking a dress way over budget; she's such an entitled over-indulged princess.
I wanted my daughter to go to Kleinfeld but after seeing a couple of these, where the consultants disregard the mother’s budget, absolutely not.
Mom said 8,000 to 10,000 and immediately they go for over $3,000 over budget! A good consultant would work to stay within budget.
I really hate it when consultants put brides in dresses over budget. When I went wedding dress shopping I said I didn’t want to go over £1,500 and the consultant helped me looking with dresses around that price
How can someone pay 13,000 for a dress that is one of the top selling dresses of Kleinfield? It is not a unique designer model, it is at this point a mass selling product that many brides have worn.
I don't think that you should have put her in a dress more than 3,000 more than her moms budget shame on you. This actually made me angry
Tired of all these entitled girls that ignore budgets
The second dress on her look stunning! Though the lack of personality is just making my eyes roll. God help her husband.
The husband is probably a himbo
Nah.. It was to cheap for her.. 😠
1st one is way to heavy looking, a typical seen it on tons of brides dress. Way to make 13 grand look tacky
Omg I hope the husband to be is patient, she bride is high maintenance! Unfortunately even at her age is still behaving like a spoilt brat and totally disrespected the budget her mother set, didn't help that the staff didn't comply as well
Her husband is going to be in need of more than just patience, sadly.
They said a budget between 8,000-10,000. The sales team immediately pulls a $13,000 dress. WTH?
Budget is from 8 to 10,000.... Shows a dress that's 13,000.... 🤔🤔🤔
If she wants a 13k dress, she needs to pay for it herself 😂
This is an old episode, just looking at the clothes and makeup.. maybe at least 10 years? More new content please, love watching these!
It's a 2015 episode, and I agree with you. Dresses back then were so weird, it's just not as satisfying to watch
I would have guessed even older than 10 years. That drop waist style she picked, I would peg between 2001-2009. It looks so out of fashion now.
In order to get the new episodes, we have to buy them, and they're not worth the money. And you're right, ths is an old episode, I believe from 2010, if I remember correctly. Just look at how young Randy is.
Oh honey, you want to be the center of attention EVERY DAY😂😂 “my dad’s Lamborghini”…
I used to want a dress from here. Until I found a dress shop that has so many beautiful dresses with rhinestone, sequins, anything you want for literally a fourth of the price of these expensive dresses. I got my dress for $1800. And it was everything!
Can you please give the name of the shop?
@@AtnSnow New York Bride & Groom
@@hinakashir3332 New York Bride & Groom
@@SamanthaRWill thank you 😊
@@AtnSnow you’re welcome
That’s so sad for the mom. Wanting to pay 8,000 then you pay over 13,000 is horrible.
I hate it how everybody (including Randy in a way) pushed the mother to spend over her budget! So unconsiderate of a daughter! At first I thought the mom of the bride in the fitting room was Diane's sister: they look so much alike!
I wouldn’t have put my mother in that situation. 10k is incredibly generous and what her mother could afford. She pushed for the expensive dress, without offering to pay the extra herself, then forgot to say a huge thank you. 🤯
If the sales lady hadn't told her the price of the second one..she would have been in love with it as well...
The price of that dress would pay my rent for a year! No bs.
Me too. It just makes me so angry that she didn't listen to her momma's limit. Such a tacky young woman. Geerossss.
I think she should have tried some more dresses.
Yeah the dress didnt look that good on her
I love the dress. It is absolutely perfect for her personality. But I hate how the consultants don't respect the budget. $3k over? Are they mental? They should not have even shown her the dress.
I agree and that price does not include any alterations, the veil or shoes.
Why do consultants put these girls over their parents budgets? Really puts these parents in a spot.
Wtf would she put her in a gown that $13,000 when the mom said the budget is between $8,000-10,000? She's bogus as hell for that
I’m over the bridal salon. First dress $3,000 over budget. As if $10,000 isn’t enough?!?!?
This bride needs to show some respect for her mother.
I am so glad that when I got married I got married in a nice outfit. I don't see spending $10,000 or more or even $1,000 on one dress that you only going to wear once.
Seriously. I wore a 350 dollar dress that I liked more than all of the expensive wedding dresses that I tried on.
@@Dina-lc4bt I got married in a nice short sleeve sweater top and slacks at the courthouse and it was better going through all the trouble with trying to deal with a big wedding that neither of us could afford and buying a dress I'm never going to wear again.
My sister in law rented hers and it costs like $1000 just to rent it.
Everyone wants to wear the dress of their dreams, but no one wants to save for it.
Why is there such an emphasis upon wearing an overpriced wedding dress for one day when the bride and groom cannot afford it? Respect the family's and or friend's budget and consider their obligations/circumstances. Remember the giver might unconsciously feel obligated: They throw the price of the gown in the couples' face throughout the marriage and especially beyond. They feel entitled to the wedding and or wedding dress conforming to their wishes. When my sister married, she rented her designer gown plus the ball gown for the MOH (including alterations) and returned it along with the groom's tux. They spent greater sums of money on purchasing homes, cars and travel.
Rule number 1, never put a bride in a dress over budget, 2, the bride ought to pay the difference.
This consultant made a MAJOR mistake (which I thought was EXTREMELY rude and unprofessional) when she chose to completely disrespect and ignore Mom's budget of $10,000 and she put the bride in her "dream dress".... a dress that was $3000 OVER Mom's very generous $10,000 budget...and she has the bride come out in THAT dress as the VERY FIRST dress to show the family, so OF COURSE the bride fell in love with that dress because the higher price allows for higher quality in the fabric and detailing of the dress. So naturally, anything cheaper is going to be a major disappointment for the bride, because (as we saw happen) the bride fell in love with the first dress (which DID look stunning on her) and wasn't happy in any of the other dresses because they couldn't compare to that first dress, being of lesser quality. And now, she and the consultant are going to try and leech another $3000 out of the Mom. I think if the bride wants to go over budget, she should foot the extra cost herself....ESPECIALLY if its that much over budget. There is a difference between going a couple hundred dollars over and THREE THOUSAND dollars over. Thankfully for her, Mom was willing to give her daughter her perfect dream dress, but a LOT of times, I've seen the bride leave brokenhearted and empty-handed, because Mom can't pay for the dress. And I am SHOCKED that Randy wasn't more respectful of Mom's budget and encouraged the bride to go for the more expensive dress.
It was a strategic manipulation on the consultant's part. She recognized this family as one of those who can invest 10 grand in a dress, so she put that dress first, hoping to impress the bride so she would get a more expensive dress sold (and for her, a much better commission, I'm sure) and it worked this time.
Her mom really didn't want to spend that much money. With the alterations, veil, and shoes you just know it's going to be close to $20k, and she hasn't even gotten hair and makeup done.
"Tell me about your fiance."
"My dad has a Lamborghini."
Her dad has a Lamborghini😲 Their faces don't move😅 They all look the same...
And they all look like a trashy barbie you ordered on Wish🤣
They use too much Botox.
I’ve noticed this with Kleinfeld. All of the consultants show dresses that are right at the maximum budget, or higher. Which in my opinion is not right. It may be a decent marketing technique, but if I were shopping for a dress and a consultant showed me a dress over budget, I would confront them and politely ask for ones in my range.
First bride: you want something over an excessive budget, cough up the extra money yourself!
Randy and company: you present something over budget, you need to be prepared to to discount!
She says that she likes to dress up in expensive jewelry, designer gowns, etc..."It's what I love." Well most of us love that too but apparently can't afford to indulge ourselves in that "hobby." She acts like it is her hobby so she should get to do it just as someone else loves to garden or read books. What a spoiled piece of work!
It’s easy to be nice when you get your way. Wonder what she is like when she doesn’t get her way?
She's not spending your money, why get so worked up over it?
@@regularity2556 Exactly
I never understood that when there's a budget the sales people go over. Talk about ambushing the person buying the dress. Sneaky!!!
It's Really so Annoying when they ignore the specified budgets! I hate that 😒
How hard is it to find a sweetheart ballgown with some bling and not too much tulle that is 10k or under? I feel like that describes a TON of dresses and yet they only showed her a 13k dress and then some dresses that she didn’t ask for.
They wanted Kleinfelds and they are paying for that name more than anything.
2nd dress was so much more flattering
She could have paid to fly to Poland, get with Gok, and come out with a brilliant dress for half the price of that Pnina mess.
This is a very old episode. Gok may not even have been in a bridal salon then. And the bride and her mom wanted to show off their wealth, so I doubt a £2000 dress would cut it. IDK why you think that Gok would have anything that she would want.
No, I wouldn’t wish her on Gok, sorry!
The only reason the first bride likes the first dress is that it is the most expensive
That last girl is so egoistic she doesn’t think a moment at the price of the dress her mother will,have to pay.
At 02:13 Randy, i think, Randy showed the price to the bride (or i might be wrong), so I think the bride knows the dress is over the budget her mother set
I think Randy and the consultant should have to pick up the extra cost price on the dress
I wish the mom would of told her she’d pay the amount she budgeted for, and the daughter would have to pay the difference.
Wow. The consult and the bride disrespected mom's boundary.
The daughter thought the budget was limitless! This time the bride was the problem.
Can’t fathom spending $10,000 on a dress I wear ONCE. The whole idea of diamonds and white wedding dresses was a marketing scheme.
A wedding is one day, a marriage is a lifetime.
I’d invest in my future.
Her Mom looks like she's afraid to tell her daughter no. They should have respected her Mother and her budget and not show her dresses sooo expensive. But Mom seemed ok with it in the end and she really did look beautiful.
It doesn’t matter if the budget is 10k, they always pick out something worth MORE
When the bridal consultant see a bride with no budget: "let's break out the pninas!"
Over butget and i can't remember how many times i have seen the same dress on so many brides
“Budget about $10,000”.....”ok, here’s one for $13300”. Why do they always do that
Right it's ridiculous
I always wait for the bride or the groom to finish the sentence, "He/she will do anything for me and I just love him/her," with and "I'll do anything for him/her as I just love him/her so much."
When I don't hear something reciprocal, I get worried.
I was going to get married in my Mom’s wedding dress. (Wedding didn’t happen). I could never ask for them to spend so much money for a dress I’d wear once after they were paying for the band, flowers and reception.
I love how the clickbait title tries to make it sound like the entourage is being mean here, when the consultant and bride picked a dress that was almost $4000 over the budget range the mom gave.
Lamborghini 😏 she’s got mentionitis at 1 min into video 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@cjpv1972 He ONLY works for the bail bonds man father who owns the company. He better get FAT pockets pretty quick ...as she is all about the designer labels and empty inside.
"Mentionitis"! LOVE it!
I'm currently shopping for a dress and not once expected anyone else to pay for it
The salesperson needs to learn respect for Mother’s budget too!