New Pint X WHAT'S INSIDE?! Full Tear-Down
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ต.ค. 2021
- Jeff takes the new Pint X all the way down to the internals. Is it really that much different than the first gen Pint? Find out what's inside!
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Correction: Warranty is VOID as soon as you take your OW out of the original box.
I can't wait to see this for the GT
its gonna be a little befor we see any gts
Bro same
Me too
me too
I've learned long ago to not pre order anything from FM. Will probably be 4 months before people start seeing most boards.
realizin how we rely on you guys for OW answers wayy more than FM 🤙🏾
Wicked, thanks Jeff! So, I was wrong in my assumption. It's not a 21700 1p pack, but essentially an XR battery in there. I assume they're using the same Murata VTC6 cells, since it's a 2p 6Ah 324Wh pack. That's really cool.
I'll have to do another video on this stuff... because I caved and ordered one of these. Couldn't help it.
Are the Murata made in Singapore too?
I understood like 30% of your comment Mario 😁👍
They could have used the 21700 which is what I have now on my onewheel PINT. Instead they made us of their overstocked battery which is the smaller size, but double the number of battery. I imagine if they placed 21700. . that will probably beat the GT. Then no one willl buy the GT.
@@Jd-zd6bh where would they put it? :)
@@TheFloatLife r/woosh
"they're trying to make everything as proprietary as possible, which is understandable." definitely understandable from a business perspective, but still often a huge bummer for consumers who like to repair and work on their own stuff
He's clearly trying to balance his personal feelings on the issue vs his relationship with Future Motion.
They can have their own stuff(FM) that is fine but we should be able to buy wheels, controllers, batteries etc... We should be able to buy the parts at least warrenty or not
Can't go wrong with ANY of the TFL content, but I especially love this stuff!
they could've easily included a recessed handle grip on the front bumper like on the XR since they made it thicker just for aesthetic symmetry - thanks for the stoke content in this vid💯🙌🏽🤙🏽
Love the positivity. Lots of guys on YT are dogging on FM for refining their product and taking it to a more polished design. Good to see you guys being critical where you should but not trolling to troll.
The waffle by the control board cound be a good spot for a tile or a airtag or whatever in the future!
Good thinkin'
Me be Dremelin!
I was very curious to see what's inside. You guys buying a board just to immediately tear it apart is much appreciated, thank you! :D
Happy to help!
Thanks for answering about the clearance (again). That was quick. Float on my friend.
oh my gosh im so pumped!! Love the day 2 tear down HAHAHA
Y'all are making onewheel so much better. keep it up Jeff!
Bless
Excited to see some new accessories!
This is great information, thank you very much, Jeff. If only I could update my Pint with the firmware of this one...
Good job on the teardown of the pint X looking forward to seeing the new GT teardown
If controller is same shape/size can u use a pint front bumper for more nose clearance?
Fangs are compatible so I'd imagine 👍
I believe you can
Thanks from Australia. Apprecaite the break down.
14:47 - iFixit saves the day with the T8. 🙌🏼 Love the Mako driver kit!
Looking forward to getting some float plates for the X!
I enjoy your vid Jeff. Thanks for the inside peek.
this breakdown is awesome!
The GT's rear bumper covers the battery pack. Thought that was a nice addition.
Ryobi drill in thumbnail, Milwaukee used the entire video... LITERALLY UNWATCHABLE
Amazing tear down and video as always, FL Team!
That’s Hollywood magic, baby!!!
Great content! Really helped me organize my thoughts! Gonna shred the px for now:) 🤙🏽
Please make new bumpers for the px, I’m thinking an asymmetrical solo plate with a handle🙏🏽
Can’t wait for y’all’s break down on the GT!
Thank you!!!
Great video as always! 🤙🏼
Looking forward to the Gt tear down
Way to go buddy!
Saw you with the Braille boys, I'm blown away by your skills.... you've got a new subscriber 🤘🤘
Ayyyy! Thanks so much, happy to have you here!
Hope you to molds or scans of those for bangs. People w regular pints will but as well. I'll buy the first pair today
good to see they finally fixed the metal nut issue hopefully that is also being used on a normal pint as well so its no longer an issue as well as on the GT since it looks like it also has the newer button.
It is
Pints had several revisions of the nut.
It first was stainless machined but , then they did silastic to try and stop vibration ratting it loose and finally the same plastic nut was introduced on regular pints maybe 6 months ago
Looks like they went with the cheaper GX-12 3pin connector on the GT which is a downgrade for sure, your going to see more issues with chargers getting broken a guarantee it..
I’m hoping it just looks like it but is actually something thicker and more significant
@@xfleazillax8413 the charging plug is in the rear on the GT suggesting charging is done thru the BMS like on the Pint and Pint X, and presumably with the same BMS as those 2 (maybe with a couple alterations or additions to the circuitry).
I think this is the nature of the beast tho. Charging thru the controller then routing to the battery is just extra steps. I hope they did this intentionally, knowing it would be a failure point but still risk-assessed it to be “better” than the old XR+ method.
I really do hope 😅🙏 and I wonder what “better” truly means, if it’s just for their highly questionable repair system monopoly, or if #RightToRepair means anything to them and if it helps mechanics and DIYs like ourselves in the long run. Time will tell, cuz FM sure won’t say a single word about it 🤐
@@MatthewLiguori yeah make sense except an XLR connection is tried and true in strength over the GX-2 connectors , XLR just watch and music video ever and watch what musician do with there mics and tell me it’s not more durable.
Moving the power down makes sense with the Pint format for sure but I think they are going that direction because they had to decrease the price of the build because they also wanted to increase the battery size and keep the board at a reasonable price, I’m thinking the XR will remain a better built board.
The pint isn’t a bad machine but it was half the price with some different tech to bring it down to its price point
I guess this time, a less chunky front bumper is what the aftermarket needs. :D
word
Durrrr
@@redboyjan he always finds me haha 😆
noice ! seems like an aftermarket battery producer would be able to build a pack and boost the range up !
The best thing about the Pint X is the potential of the unlocked firmware being used on the normal pint w/ an aftermarket battery pack.
What do you mean unlocked firmware?
Yeah I’m betting it’s more locked up than not, there just allowing it to almost catch an XR, and I’m betting it could go faster than the 18mph there “selling us”
Awesome vid. Thanks! Cw to get my pintx.
Jeff motor plug always had the ow logo embossed on them , also we now have a foot pad connector part number for repairs male and female !!
Thanks so much was hoping you’d rip into it !!
FOMF !
Good to know! I don't mess with the standard Pint much so I didn't notice before.
Love those Milwaukee m12s! So cool to see the breakdown since Future motion is so tight lipped!
Been my daily for about 10 years now! Best ever!!!
Gott get the snapon 14.4 butteryfly trigger… I’m a big Milwaukee m18 m12 guy but this snapon screw gun kills it.
I own about 7g worth of milwaukee stuff, drill, impactor, press tool, chop saw, pipe threader... if milwaukee made bread, I'd eat milwaukee toast for breakfast every day 😋
You can put the fangs bumper on the front or stock bumper and give you more clearance
Thanks
It didn't take long for Jeff to crack it open to find the secret goodies inside cant wait for the opening of the GT. Can you use an old bumper then for the front?
Yeah, I think so.
I’d love to see a side by side comparison of the controller and battery pack, either by pic or screen shot..
Seeing the OG bumper against the new thickness wise would be cool too!
14:00 Exactly why I haven't pulled the trigger on a GT yet. If it has pushback like the pint, that's a deal breaker for me. I think they say it's got more carving angle than the XR, tho. That's what I'm excited about.
yep its got the pint tire but with the xr size so its easier to carve on the GT
@@DragonPixels Oh, I was thinking the board was programmed to have more lean angle. But I guess you’re right. Maybe they just get it from the tire and foot pads
Tire and rim are a 1/2 an inch thicker than the XR and that’s why I think they made the tire look more rounded on the edges, I’m betting it will turn more like the pint but not as much as you might think, looking at the tire it’s going to be all muscle control on those sides, not like the Burris T-33 or the Trail Pro where you can kinda set it on that edge and it has this stable spot while you turn at full speed.
Great video. I am reassured that I can ride my Pint X in slightly wet conditions. Being in the PNW it was bumming me out thinking I couldn't ride when it was wet out. Which would be months on end up here! Those gaskets look good, well designed.
Toss a sweet treaded tire on there and get rippin'!
@@TheFloatLife I want the same tire you all had on the pint x in the off road / range test but it’s sold out.
Great vid 🤙
Great video!!
Thanks!
It looks well built. Those thick bumpers could be replaced buy a new future set of thin bang bumpers 😃
Loved this.
Would love to see inside the battery pack to see how it's built and what cells they're now using.
It’s basically an XR pack
Obviously, Sony Murata VTC6 cells in it. Just like the XR.
@iguazu Obviously?
@@sarahdaviscc Yeah.
Same number of cells, same capacity (324Wh), big chances the cells are Sony Murata VTC6 like Mario Contino says.
Unless they chose to put other 3000mAh cells in the battery pack which is possible too.
But the VTC6 work so fine ... Can't imagine Samsung 30Qs in it. 😅
Thanks dude
You’re welcome :)
That video is RAD, thanks Jeff! Could you do an experiment? Can you swap the battery with a normal Pint and see if it is recognized as a Pint X? Thanks and float on
Great video. Any thoughts or an update on the wiring issue in the battery?
Would've been nice if the bottom of the battery case was part of the bumper instead. I've started grinding away at that plastic. Time to install the float plates.
Here's a question would be pretty interesting to find out: If you can get your hands on the X battery, can you swap it into the regular Pint? Then you could have the regular Pint battery if you fly with it and the X battery when you're not flying and want the extra range. Or maybe even as a quick "recharge" just swap the batteries
That’s a lot of trouble for not a lot of benefit.
@@TheFloatLife Ah okay, was thinking it's just a simple swap possibly. Mainly looking at the benefit of having a travel legal board with the option to have more range when not traveling
@@ThisMarv did you watch the video? didnt look like itd be a simple swap at all
@@dhc2 I did watch it and it seems pretty simple. I'm talking about removing the whole part where the battery sits in and not only the actual battery itself where you have to take the battery compartment apart
Just get quart battery and you are good I have one in my pint and it is great
Next day tears the pint to the ground lol u guys are great! Shout out to julian the camera legend!
Julian is the man
JULIAN! JULIAN! JULIAN!
Losing That 1/2 inch clearance messed me up.
On my pint i was going up the hills in my neighborhood fine. On my X my nose scraped on this one hill and i took a dive. Scraped up my left hand, elbow and hip.
I have since then installed fangs to help alleviate that issue.
The battery housing for the Pint X has major design flaws can destroy BMS balancing wires, as well as main battery leads.
Can we get a comparison of the chi quart battery and the new pint. Hoping they'll drop the price/ upgrade the pint x range
What a bummer that the conn socket HSG is the same (charging port to the BMS) hopefully with more range they lasting a little more, no problem with the regular charger but, that fast charger will fail for sure 😥. Thanks Jeff for the video, really appreciate the break down. 👍🏼
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Wait what does that mean? You shouldn't use the ultracharger?
@@theob1712 Well is not going to damage it overnight, that happened to me after 5k but, yes you shouldn't
That’s very cool Jeff - thank you for sharing this! I was interested in seeing the upgrades on the bolt by the power button. Thank god they fixed that. Also cool they made the front area insides better too. Do those LED lights shine brighter than the first Pint?
Same exact lights
@@TheFloatLife ugh, so disappointing. Thanks for the reply! 😊
Love it
thanks for showing the inside of the controller using the new nut XD
No worries!
You can use the original front bumper for the pint x to get some clearance back
Yes
thank youse! 💪🏾🎯👍🏾
Youse welcomes!
I wish they would sell replacement rails. I just bought my first Onewheel (pint x), and was under the impression that the rails were replaceable, since every other outer part can be replaced. I was too excited to start riding, and didn't wait for my rail guards to arrive. Of course I banged and scratched my original rails up badly the first couple of days. Finding out they don't sell replacements after I scratched mine up really sucked.
Salut moi je suis rendu compte qu ils ne vendent pas non plus la barre de leds avant 😢 Après 1000km l éclairage avant ne marche plus.
Wonder if a regular pint bumper would fit on the front, would love to get that extra clearance.
Yes it does
I want to see if you could put some of the essential parts of the pint x to the regular pint and get similar results. If so, that could pave way for Regular pint users to upgrade their board instead of buying and entirely new one.
Folks will be buying the Pint X for the range and you can't swap the batteries.
Thanks Jeff ! Did they use the same "pentalope" screws for the battery box and controler box like the Pint ?
Yup
@@TheFloatLife cool ! Don't need new tools again. 😅
Doing the lords work
🎯
Murdering millions to placate ego? I dunno I think these guys are pretty decent, would not compare them to an omnipotent self absorbed sky fairy 😉
@@MrDmadness 🎯🎯😄
Sheeesh lol 🤦🏻♂️ can’t have fun online anymore
Is the battery charger/ultracharger the same as the old PINT?
What size tool did you use to take the plastic off the controller mod? Thanks in advance.
those bms wires on the controller ( I presume) popped off my board and fm said it was my fault even tho the unit was sealed, so even to I was out of warranty they refused to fix it
Did you notice that chunk of plastic under the BMS plug? I've read reports of it wearing through the wiring?
Grind er' down 👍
Still excited and waiting for a GT breakdown 👀
Problem is you can only break down the GT so far before it bricks itself :(
Any chance TFL can hook up a new front bumper with a built-in handle?? Similar to the float plate solo handle??
Sounds rad
So is it possible to fit a regular Pint front bumper on the Pint X for more clearance?
I believe so. However that leaves your rails and underbelly exposed.
Did the wiring around the BMS and battery look like they were crimped or were at risk of damage? Saw another guy say he had that issue.
This happened to mine, 1600miles
Hey Jeff or float team what style of pliers should I use?
How are the brass fittings on the new bumper? Do they look like they will come loose?
Same as before.
@The Float Life What is preventing someone from using a regular Pint front bumper on a Pint X to get some asymmetrical clearance goodness?
Nothing, really.
I wonder if an AirTag or a Tile could fit in that open square in the bumper?
Shoot, maybe!
Charging wire harness -> BMS the same? Gonna be the weak point with everybody wanting to hypercharge as a standard if so.
Why can't FM make the Onewheel as fast as a Boosted Board?
any chance the software of the OG pint would allow the pint X battery to replace the old?
Nah, I doubt it.
im sure that the gt will have HUGEEEEE pushback at 18/19mph but my question is how will it handle
same
:(
Open the battery pack🔋 let’s see what’s inside them.
I ain’t that brave!
Will the same Kush Nug footpad for the Pint also work for the Pint X?
Yes
im wondering if you can put a pint x battery into a regular pint for the extra mileage. ???
No
Would you be able to put a stock pint front bumper on the pint x?
I believe so.
Will Float Plates for the Pint fit the Pint X as well?
No, but there are pint X Float Plates here: thefloatlife.com/collections/float-plates/products/pint-x-float-plates
Just a note that disassembling a product does not void a warranty if you don't break anything.
can you put a pint bumper on it to fit a sonny wheels slider?
Probably
Some pint x’s have had a issue where the battery wire gets crimped and destroyed because of the wag the battery box is designed have you had this problem and fm charged them 800$ to fix it and could you please check because i don’t want to wast 1400$
This just happened to my board
Jeff what's your favorite tire for floating on the XR in the city?
I like the Burris Street Pro. The cloud and whisper are also fun tires.
Will the x controller be fitted to the og pint to unlock the extra mph push back that the x has?
Probably not because a lot of the pint's tech is software paired. Hence why battery mods aren't an option on newer boards
No
“Future motion is trying hard to make everything (proprietary) which is understandable”
“Proprietary”=FM is making it damn near impossible to customize or even fix your own property….. which is understandable
is is possible to upgrade my pint battery to the pint x battery pack. from the video it looks like the battery pack got thicker and everything else might line up ?
No, the closest you can do is a Quart.
Is any of the internals conformal coated?? Sry not a onewheel owner... Yet 😅
Yes
Can you put an old pint bumper on a pint X and make it thin in the front again?
👀
I believe so
If one of the meme coin investments I have blow up, I'm getting me one of these. It looks sleek af
🤑🤑🤑
The only biggest changed are the battery size and software upgrade, and the model name. Let me add another 15s on my Onewheel PINT. . and I will call it, onewheel "W".