René Guénon & Traditionalism Crisis Of The Modern World Full Book Explained

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  • Chad Haag lectures on the whole book to show how everything we call progress today is nothing new -- mecahnization, scientific approximation, materialism, and democracy were arleady known in the World of Tradition but were properly recognized as signs of a civilization in decline.
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    0:44 Intro
    3:01 Ch 1 The Dark Age
    7:02 Ch 2 Opposition Between East and West
    11:12 Ch 3 Knowledge and Action
    13:50 Ch 4 Sacred and Profane Science
    19:33 Ch 5 Individualism
    23:06 Ch 6 Social Chaos
    28:37 Ch 7 A Material Civilization
    33:40 Ch 8 Western Encroachment
    34:59 Some Conclusions
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  • @upstar21t
    @upstar21t 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    You should do the sequel to this book. The sequel is, "The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times", it's free online. The "critical moment" Guenon spoke of was already passed back in the 1930s and 40s and because that critical moment was passed negatively, Guenon decided to write the cited sequel. Things have now taken a complete nose-dive and, according to him, will only get worse until the intervention of a "supra-cosmic principle", after the point where what he calls the "counter-initiation" have succeeded in setting up, to a greater or lesser degree, a global empire of subversion. In that atmosphere, the so called mythical beings will be visible to mankind once more (faeries, elementals, demons/asuras, angels/gods, etc), human beings will experience, both beneficially and in a malevolent way, an awakening of both non-sensory powers and states of being and the world will resemble a sort of apocalyptic hell-scape. After the intervention of the "supra-cosmic principle " however, which some call the Nara-Narayana principle or the mahdi-christ principle, things will return back to their proper state of normalcy as humanity is led to the dawn of the next "golden age"/Satya-Yuga. I highly recommend both reading and reviewing/lecturing the book online too.

    • @kamelame9633
      @kamelame9633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Appreciate this comment. I just finished the Crisis of the Modern World yesterday, and look forward to reading more. Unsurprising that he talks about there needing to be a supra-cosmic principle. As a Muslim, I regularly hear from people how the Mahdi is just about to arrive considering the state we're in. Though part of me feels like we're just saying that because we live in this particular age, where all the problems of the world feel new and alien somehow, and we're just trying to explain it away by calling this the Dark Age or Kali Yuga, etc.

    • @upstar21t
      @upstar21t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kamelame9633 Guenon bases his position on the law of cosmic cycles, a law that governs the development of all manifestation, to varying degrees, whether it be a single being or an entire world. Particular cycles are marked by particular signs, which indicate the nature and quality of the cosmic environment and of the beings that exist within that cosmic environment at that particular cycle( hence the title of his sequel Reign of Quantity and The Signs of The Times). That said, few in this particular cycle can even "read the signs", I.e. understand the nature of things anymore, Guenon was one of the few who could do so, to a degree, and thus concluded that this is indeed the darkest period of the kali yuga. The intervention of "avatara", with his "army of gods/angels" before this cycle closes is probably an allusion to the unveiling of the King of the World, along with the entire people of Aghartha.

    • @clarityofthought
      @clarityofthought ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@upstar21t would really like to contact you about this. October 2nd through October 5th an event is said to occur in New York City.

    • @upstar21t
      @upstar21t ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@clarityofthought Hey. What event would that be? In what way would you like to keep in touch?

  • @williambentley2802
    @williambentley2802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Thanks Chad, Guenon is a very interesting thinker.

  • @north-iranidtraditionalist6785
    @north-iranidtraditionalist6785 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Great work. You have a very strong understanding of the Traditionalists (Guenon and Evola) from what I've seen in your videos.

  • @mattt.4395
    @mattt.4395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this guy and Ripperger are some of the best on TH-cam. they're both such chads.

  • @jussim.konttinen4981
    @jussim.konttinen4981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    4:00 Someone inherited a wooden paddle from his grandfather in Finland, which was thought to be made by him. Laboratory research showed it to be 4,800 years old.

  • @chadahaagphilosophychannel7329
    @chadahaagphilosophychannel7329  4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    0:44 Intro
    3:01 Ch 1 The Dark Age
    7:02 Ch 2 Opposition Between East and West
    11:12 Ch 3 Knowledge and Action
    13:50 Ch 4 Sacred and Profane Science
    19:33 Ch 5 Individualism
    23:06 Ch 6 Social Chaos
    28:37 Ch 7 A Material Civilization
    33:40 Ch 8 Western Encroachment
    34:59 Some Conclusions

  • @atkkeqnfr
    @atkkeqnfr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I've been supplementing my reading of Traditionalist texts with your videos. Thanks!

  • @treytrapani9813
    @treytrapani9813 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is a small but not impossible chance that Charles III has watched this video.

  • @hermanhale9258
    @hermanhale9258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He lived in the most exciting time of "progress". Born Nov. 1886. I always wished I was young in those years. He died before the space age, where it all went wrong.

  • @DamburaDioa
    @DamburaDioa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A great in-depth summary!

  • @abduyimer7900
    @abduyimer7900 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Brilliant!

  • @Alonoda
    @Alonoda 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Incredible overview, new to Guénon as well as to your channel, a much needed dissection & analysis of the current state of civillization

    • @chadahaagphilosophychannel7329
      @chadahaagphilosophychannel7329  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks a lot for watching, I look forward to doing more videos on Guenon and Evola (actually will be reviewing Evola's Metaphysics of Sex later this week).

  • @gabedepaul5407
    @gabedepaul5407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you!!! I needed a summary so bad. You have sped up my deep dive into traditionalism drastically

  • @robinrobinson6714
    @robinrobinson6714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you Chad for this excellent synopsis of an important work!😊

    • @chadahaagphilosophychannel7329
      @chadahaagphilosophychannel7329  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks a lot for watching, check my channel for some other more recent videos on Guenon's other works done by a guest lecturer

  • @vvill7109
    @vvill7109 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I swear you have a video on everything I look up. Thanks so much for the great content.

  • @Alex-rq1nc
    @Alex-rq1nc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great channel! Thank you for your work.

  • @antinoofromgreece6560
    @antinoofromgreece6560 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congratulations for the content it is a very well summed up stuff undoubtedly. I appreciated your channel and I will go over more content certainly.

  • @thomaslodger7675
    @thomaslodger7675 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video, I've been looking for a good academic video on Rene Guenon.

  • @zzzzxxxx7879
    @zzzzxxxx7879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video- my first on this channel. Really excited for more. Excellent job sir

  • @courtneydolly6538
    @courtneydolly6538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow great video. Complex content which you explain so easily.

  • @anmolsingh280
    @anmolsingh280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hey Chad loved the video, would love to see you cover Guénon’s criticism of theosophy

    • @chadahaagphilosophychannel7329
      @chadahaagphilosophychannel7329  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks do you have any text in mind?

    • @anmolsingh280
      @anmolsingh280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Chad A. Haag Peak Oil Philosophy his text “Theosophy: History of a Pseudo-Religion” is a fantastic text

  • @puppetperception7861
    @puppetperception7861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You picked a good one! Kierkegaard when?

  • @Isaiah99002
    @Isaiah99002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've been waiting for this one! Good stuff Chad!

  • @fire.smok3
    @fire.smok3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @sunlesssentinel5326
    @sunlesssentinel5326 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video.

  • @maudemurray
    @maudemurray ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For some crucially important reasons, the ideas of Frithjof Schuon [when differing from those of René Guénon] are of world-shaking importance; so one must be informed: he summarizes his distinctive ideas on page 53 of Aldo Vidali's dossier of the Schuon cult, which is on ZLibrary and Scribd. He writes that a pure pneumatic [افراد، فرد] has a revelation and the primordial law in the depths of his own heart, so revelation and a sacred law are not essential, and such a person can never deviate, whatever appearances may be from a particular limited perspective. As proof, he cites impeccable authorities: The Brahma Sutras, Meister Eckhardt and René Guénon, all of whom said more in other passages well worth reading, and found on my site here: Frithjof Schuon: A last minute lesson in discerment.
    There, you'll also find a page with excerpts from Guénon's letters on Schuon, dated from 1936 to 1950; and a refutation of Schuon's booklet, called "Some observations," in which he criticizes Guénon. The French of that Refutation is on Scribd, called Réfutation de Quelques critiques, de Schuon. Theres an automatic translation into English on Scribd too but it's much better on my site; and a fine metaphysician is editing my editing for the ideas...so soon, God willing, it will be great!
    For an opposite view, that of the"Schuonians," see "Frithjof Schuon: Messenger of the Perennial philosophy," which is on pdfdrive, ZLibrary and Scribd. The chapter called "At variance with Guénon" shows how/why Schuon thought he was the "most profound metaphysician of the twentieth century," when he also thought a lot more. I'm dead set opposed to that book, beginning with the title, handwritten by Frithjof Schuon on page xvii. That word "Messenger" drives me out of my mind; and the idea that the Perennial philosophy is anything like a religion that leads to salvation and has a Prophet...finishes me off completely! Of course I love all revelations: who would dream otherwise!

  • @abdelrahmanmustafa8937
    @abdelrahmanmustafa8937 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chad you're such a Chad

  • @tophatproductions3031
    @tophatproductions3031 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hello. I'm an admirer of your work, and I'd like to know what your process is to create notes for a lecture such as this. Do you go through the book page by page, word by word or simply read them like you would a novel?

    • @chadahaagphilosophychannel7329
      @chadahaagphilosophychannel7329  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Usually I make notes as I'm reading and then I make the slides from the notes themselves and then record the lecture with a view to the text as a whole etc.

  • @JosephGBaker
    @JosephGBaker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you going to do a series on Yukio Mishima?

  • @PatrickBateman191
    @PatrickBateman191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What books can i read to help me understand this (apart from Guénon and Evola) ?

  • @luswyr8254
    @luswyr8254 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely video again but would like for you to dumb down certain things again, haha... for example at 8:50, pnematic horizon of hermeneutical interpretation... to the layman that I am it's gobedly goop. Thanks so much for your videos, which in general do seem to present most of the ideas in fairly layman terms, but a few bits are still confusing. I am planning to read the book, but reading some explanations of it prior. Thanks again :)

  • @tophatproductions3031
    @tophatproductions3031 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wil you be doing videos on Schopenhauer?

  • @AbeAlJ
    @AbeAlJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We never got to hear your personal opinion on Guenon's ideas. Are you in full agreement, disagreement, somewhere in between?

  • @clarityofthought
    @clarityofthought ปีที่แล้ว

    The counter initiative (green dragon and black dragon) might implement smart cities

  • @Flammenhagel
    @Flammenhagel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why dod guenon believe christianity was destroyed with the abolition of the templars?

  • @user-ws7ok3to6e
    @user-ws7ok3to6e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its weird, the ancient hebrows were influenced a lot by Indian culture

  • @robertpalermo7750
    @robertpalermo7750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative video, but the editing in this is not great. You abruptly cut yourself off when speaking as you transition from one slide to the next, which is kind of annoying. Otherwise, the information provided here is quite helpful in understanding a complex work by a great thinker.

  • @everettelderberry5362
    @everettelderberry5362 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweeet. Sub!!!

  • @vdmur7952
    @vdmur7952 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @Janice060813
    @Janice060813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I enjoyed your analysis, but your use of "he or she", is annoying; it's a blatant sign of the modernization derided in this whole discussion.

  • @bapyongukgukguk2352
    @bapyongukgukguk2352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy was not a Thinker, he was a literal prophet

  • @Dystisis
    @Dystisis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Strange how my political or practical-philosophical worldview is in many ways the same as Guenon's, but I find everything Guenon says philosophically absolutely wrongheaded. He is a Platonist who believes this world (of "matter", a non-word) is unreal, which is the core feature of Hebraic thought. Also, he idealizes the past while he's supposed to present a cyclical worldview, which is just as irrational as belief in progress.

    • @sadsackkvisling9694
      @sadsackkvisling9694 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's true that some of Guenon's more "meta-" takes are very cloudy and there are passages which appear to be a form of apologetics based on finely spun special pleading. We ought to remember though that his understanding of "matter" is in that qualified Greek sense.

  • @tonefilter9480
    @tonefilter9480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fully fascist in the end, know thy place low person and learn to love your lot and obey and genuflect to your masters. Some spiritual truth that is 🤮

  • @matthewwiddison6437
    @matthewwiddison6437 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guy seems to be a pseud