I always wondered why people spend so much money on such impressive hardware and all they do with it play some simple random computer beeps. So far i couldn't find any video about modular where they didn't just played some simple beeps my Commodore 64 could have done just as easily 40 years ago. Isn't it possible to play real music on these devices, like you can with regular synths?
Great question, thank you! First, you have to define "real music"; because one mans bleep is another mans music, truly. But I get what you're saying, I had the same impression at the start as well. The short answer, yes absolute, you can use modular and random events and voltages to create "real music". Check out the Modular Works collection by State Azure, or sessions by SUTURE SOUND, or long form generative streams by Mirko Ruta and dozens of other examples. They are out there, you just have to know what to ask for. "Ambient" (if that's your thing) "generative" (if you like long form pieces that create themselves) or artists that work entirely with Modular Synths and put albums out on Bandcamp, Spotify, etc. Lots of bleeping and blooping, otherwise... which is not a bad thing :) Even my own Sonic Experiments playlist here is more than just bloops, but again, it's matter of taste.
As far as these TH-cam overviews and tutorials go, Tim Shoebridge is the only person I've come across that has physically played a song tune, on a modular synth.
What, you too? After watching Tim Shoebridge I ended up with more oscillators than I budgeted for, but then again his videos are excellent at expalining why one isn't always enough. I thought I'd join you on your modular journey, so I hope you don't mind I've subbed and now watching your backcatalogue. Excellent.
I have no problem with Behringer, I just bought the System 55 and will be adding a few more modules to the bottom row, I have they're Odyssey, DeepMind 6 and the 2600 and have had zero issues with any of it, I will eventually be adding the System 100 to the mix, Very informative video, thanks for posting. Just found this video and learned some things from it even though it is a year old.
Wow, this is probably the best intro to modular on TH-cam. Seriously, I've watched everything from really big TH-camrs and it felt more like a brag fest. For other beginners wondering about other good sources, I'll say that Omri's VCV Rack stuff is also amazing.
First, I love Behringer! Making my synth dreams come true. Great description of each module. The system 100 is very compelling because of how well thought out it is, and how much they pack into each module. The only down side is, that they are a little cramped. Thanks for this video, and best wishes for your continued success.
The end sequence sounds fantastic. Really inspiring, it’s very Mass Effect sounding. Instantly makes me want the same setup. Modular is so addictive, it’s tragic..
Just found this video, AWSOME! Thank you for sharing this experience. I too have been watching Tim Shoebridge videos on the B System 100 modules. During covid lockdown, I wanted to build a system like this, but like you experienced, the supply of modules was limited or nonexistent. I see that this stuff is now available, might be the right time to build out a system like this. I love the exploration of modular and trying to figure out how to make it play a roll in music making along side my other music gear. Thanks again for this video!
Thanks for doing this and being so open about your noobness! A lot of us ARE noobs. Like you I really wanted to get a System 100 system and have just ordered my first four modules, so this video has been really helpful.
Absolutely fantastic video. Thank you for taking the time to explain everything in such depth. This is pretty much the exact same setup I have in mind and now I am even more certain about what I am after. Wonderful. All the best to you!
Great video!!! It's good to see how one could build up a patch from scratch with these modules and in particular which additional modules such as clock divider and quantizer would be needed, as they are a bit of a must-have in order to get going. So, pointing out what additional modules to get to complement these basic modules is very appreciated.Things got out of hand for me and ended I up with a 8 voice 24 oscillator 100m system put in sturdy, custom made IKEA skiffs ..... With regard to Behringer hate, I thinks it undeserved when it comes to their 100m series. It's true to the original more or less. The build quality is good. Out of 24 oscillators purchased, 1 was defect which was replaced immediately, I guess that's ok. The not so good things in the system is that the oscillators have had tuning issues (see Tim Shoebridge), the tiny pots make it very hard to tune the oscillators/sequencers and that same controls (portamento) need to be attenuated in order to be useful. Otherwise, I am quite happy with it.
To be able to hear the effect of Phase Shift or Audio Delay it's better to use a harmonically rich continuous tone which is not interrupted by the envelopes (pass a chord of saws into it).
I have a bunch of Behringer stuff in my own modular and plan to obtain many more modules. Nothing wrong with it. Uli Behringer has enabled more people to experience the joys of EuroRack modular synthesizers and synthesis in general. Any haters in the comments should just be ignored. We can live without the misguided opinions of these people. [edit: Subscribed!]
I didn’t hear you mention this but there are 11 system 100 modules, the one you don’t have is one I’d recommend to anyone curious about getting the system 100 sound with just one module. It’s the 110 module, which is also recommended by Tim Shoebridge as a starter module. These modules sound great and are stable and very flexible analog modules. I love them all except maybe the 172 phase shifter/delay which is really underwhelming and I guess it’s the same with the old Roland versions.
Really enjoyed your video. A built out System 100 is a lot to get your head around despite the basic simplicity of each of the module functions. I’m still finding things - and occasionally getting lost - working with mine.
Great video! The jam at the end sounded great :) I just bought the last module I needed to complete the 2500 series clone. I bought the 182 while i waited for other 2500 modules to release, and yeah, that 5v range is definitely tough to deal with without a quantizer, which I use an Erica Synths pico quant for. Liked and subbed!
Great video, thank you! I just ordered my first modular, many modules from the system100. I'd love to see more in depth videos of the individual modules. Screw the haters. The only solid reason to hate Behringer is when you bought a 5000 euros machine (like the 909) and now Behringer made a better version for 350 euros and you feel ripped off. "I have a studio worth 200.000 euros because I have collected super expensive synths which aren't produced anymore" Yeah, nice, I have the same setup for 10.000 euros because Behringer copied it, included MIDI and USB, added community suggested features and released it for an honest price instead of making it only accessible to the elite and rich. If you don't like it, just don't buy it! Feel free to pay for overpriced machines, it's your money. And there are loads of machines they didn't copy and are awesome! Small machine producers can't compete with the low prices of Behringer, that's true. But there's always a market for those machines too. R&D will never stop, even Behringer does R&D to create new machines like the Neutron and Proton and to continue the Crave, Edge and Spice line (further then Moog did). But they also copy stuff that's not produced anymore which is super expensive and rare (909, 808, 303 etc.), and copy stuff which is a ripoff (Moog Mother32 etc.) while make it better to make it accessible to anyone. Programmers copy and share their codes all the time. It makes the world better. Just be happy you don't have to sell some of you organs to be able to buy a synth to add to your collection. I'd rather have 10 cheap ones then 1 expensive one for the same total price. Focus your hate towards Putin instead :)
Love your passion, especially the closing line 🥰 While I myself do not hate Behringer, I do understand the animosity isn't necessarily the copying of old, unavailable hardware - it's copying things that are still currently available - e.g., Swing, Abacus, etc. Otherwise, I love how Behringer revives old, dead classics at a fraction of the cost to us than "official necromancy", so for that I am grateful. My UB-Xa is enroute 😁
you probably would have heard the phase shifter effect much better during your drone sequence, it can produce a real gnarly PWM type sound. Short plucky sounds don't really pair well with that effect.
I have also nearly completely built my system 100 as well (another Shoebridge victim!) Just missing the 297 but that has increased in price pretty heavily, so as a nice to have module (as opposed to need to have) I'll wait for a good deal. You probably know this by now, but I find the tuning switch on the 305 mixer module is great.
Excellent content, I'm also an old guy and always wanted one too. In my case I've gone the system 55 path, but once you open the mouse trap you are trapped too so I guess next objective looks like a row of this system in the spare row I have at the bottom
Great video! Thanks for sharing your though process. That is the most valuable thing (seeing how and why you made your decisions). I'm an old modular guy from way back in the 70's and I'm just getting into eurorack and currently building a Behringer System 100m rack and I was wondering if I should get a quantizer for the sequencer and you not only convinced me to get one, but recommended one and a clock divider. Thanks for that information. It really helps those of us just getting into eurorack with what to buy.
@@VisionsMusicGroup Yea I knew they were small, but when I first ordered the Behringer System 55 I was kinda shocked at how small the modules really were when it arrived. I've gotten use to it now but my old fat fingers do get in the way sometimes. Still these are systems that I never could have afforded back in the day so I'm grateful to be able to experience them now.
Audio Delay is used for a chorus or flanger effect. If you can get the dry signal mixed with a delayed signal you’ll get a comb filter. If you add an LFO to the delay time (while the dry and delayed signal are mixed) you’ll get a chorus or flanger effect depending on delay time. I was about to go all in on System 100 last year but ran into the same stock issue as you. It may be time to do it now that they are all back in stock! Any purchase regrets in terms of modules (buy more/less, omit, etc.?)
Thank you for the Audio Delay tip! As for regrets, as far as these System 100 modules go the only thing I am not making use of is the 297 (except the dual Portamento occasionally) and the ParametricEQ in the 305. Seems a waste that the EQ only handles 1 channel, unless I have completely missed a feature somewhere 😁 I may not have needed 2 ea VCF, VCA and EG... since they have so many i/o each... but it wasn't a heavy spend and looks all sexy in it's symmetry 🥰
@@VisionsMusicGroup the 297 has a lot of functionality. It has two 4 channel CV or audio mixers, you can invert the output signal and that can be a gate or any control voltage. Tons of uses for that to create complex LFOs and more. Inputs 3 and 4 are normalized to + or - 10v and you can attenuate those levels to send specific voltages to other modules. If you use the +10v out near the middle and send that to the CV input on the delay, it slows it down a little to where it’s almost usable as a chorus effect. It’s more of a bucket brigade delay or flanger than a delay; I wish they hadn’t called it that but maybe that’s what Roland did as well. It’s pretty noisy so I don’t use it much but it is fun to play with. All these modules are discounted right now so I’d encourage everyone to get at least a few of them. They are real workhorses for any modular system, and sound great in my opinion.
Great video 👍. I'm looking to get the 110 (VCO+VCF+VCF) to get a touch of Roland smoothness for the Neutron-based sound engine I'm building for my Roland AE-30 wind synth. I'm sure it won't be the last of these modules! 😀
@@tauminoris6035 it's so nice being able to add stuff to the Neutron like the 904A filter for some solid bass tones. I'm trying to figure out some VCAs so I could have the Mooginess when I'm playing down low and then a choice of Neutron aggression or Roland smoothness when playing up high.
@@DadIsALoon on different levels probably not. Then again I don't have an iPhone either. Though I do have a hand me down ipad 😆 Behringer's clone stuff just rubs me wrong though.
Excellente vidéo pour un novice comme moi! Petite question qui n’est jamais abordée sur TH-cam : sur quel module dois-je connecter mon keystep pro et mes enceintes? Dois-je connecter ma carte son sur mon système modulaire et ensuite connecter mes enceinte sur ma carte son?
Hello! I do not know French, but I will try. I just did this video: th-cam.com/video/cKd0k0xPxQc/w-d-xo.html about how I connect Modular to Sound/DAW, maybe it answers your question. As for Keystep - the CV/Gate out of Keystep, CV goes to v/Oct module (pitch), and Gate goes to VCA (volume) to open/close VCA. I hope this helps.
Fabulous video. Can you help me though plz. I have a full system as well, apart from the combined vco,vcf and vca module (110). I can only get stereo panning with the module mixer if I plug the outputs straight into the speakers. If I plug in via my UMC22 Behringer audio interface, it combines the outputs and its basically mono. Are you using a stereo mixer or something?? I need to monitor the stereo from the speakers as well as record in stereo. I've tried to get help from forums. But always seem to get the 'what are you trying to achieve ' and 'whats wrong with mono?' Unbelievable. Please could you explain in simple newbie terms. Thank you kindly.
Taking a quick look at the UMC22, I do see 2 inputs (mic/inst) and 2 outputs (L/R) but I do not see an option for "panning". If you're also using a DAW (Abelton, Logic, etc) you'll likely need to pan the incoming MONO signals from L/R Out to either a stereo pair or 2 mono tracks in the DAW, which should then let you pan. Aside from this, I am afraid I cannot help much more. The above is exactly what I use, but my mixer is a Mackie DL32R so a bit bigger than the UMC22, which may be more configurable.
@@VisionsMusicGroup The system 100 has a panning function on the mixer module. Since I posted this I purchased a stereo audio interface and my problem was fixed. So the UMC22 is mono.
Hi, bit late to the party here but I’ll leave a comment anyway. Regarding the Audio Delay, I think you’re not hearing it because it patched before the VCA which is cutting off the effect if you see what I mean? The Phaser and Delay work better post VCA. I have a Roland eurorack System 500 case. The Phaser on that is really noisy 😀 Got to say you can’t really beat this Behringer stuff for the price. I’m looking into getting a few of these to expand my 100 setup which how I came across your video. Nice work!!
QUESTION: does combining the dual VCO, dual VCF, dual VCA, and dual Envelope Generator yield a true "two-voice" (duophonic) polysynth? As in, can both VCOs run through their own independent VCF/VCA/EG? Or, in practice, is it more like paraphony, where while the VCOs may be assigned different pitches, they all run through the same VCF/VCA/EG? I'm trying to build a 4-voice polysynth with the system 100 and this would be helpful to know.
Hello! I am no expert, so you really should fact check me, but if you look at chapter Part 2 Recap @ 36:03 you can see a green patch cable going from VCO 1 to VCF 1 to VCA 1 and a gate signal to EG 1 that opens/closes VCA 1. Same with blue patch cable (Voice 2, completely separate signal path), and later for Voice 3 (Red) and Voice 4 (Yellow) by the end of the presentation. I have never done "polyphony" with a keyboard controller, but I know this setup (dual 112, 121, 130, 140) would yield 4 entirely separate voices, each filterable and enveloped/gated separately. I think this is what you're asking. Hopefully someone else can weigh in and verify this for you.
@@VisionsMusicGroup thank you for the reply! This is helpful. This lets me know the modules are capable, and that it’s just a matter of finding a keyboard that can pull off the desirable note allocation… In a semi-related note, is there anything in the modules that would allow for keyboard filter tracking. Because, as I’m sure you know, playing polyphonically without keyboard tracking can be problematic
@@jibberish00 Hmm, this I cannot be sure of. I do know that MIDI to CV converters usually have a Pitch, Gate, and Mod option, where the Mod might alter frequency on higher notes, but that would require the Controller itself (keyboard) to send that data as something that can be converted to CV. Might ask the experts about that one, this is just my guess.
@@jibberish00 FYI, just rediscovered this guy's films on the System 100 duophonic concepts, if you want to check his playlist out th-cam.com/video/hs2nm3CrGZ8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=f5_yE1_Lz8P0iPAJ
Yo, Zach! Just my tuppenceworth, but you could build a minimal duophonic system using just three Behringer modules plus a MIDI/CV module. Two 110 voice modules (not included in the setup displayed in the above video) and a 140 dual-envelope/LFO will suffice to give you a duophonic synth (you may find that you also need a couple of multiple modules but these are dirt cheap). Happy noodling!
i stumbled across your videos a couple of weeks ago - i am on a similar trajectory to you with modular. i got the sys 55 because of the sale and then i got a load of these sys 100 modules (because these were the ones i always truly wanted) - i noted your recommendation re the LADIK quad quantizer, so i bought 2 of them, one for the sys 55 and one for the sys 100. the sys 100 sequencer is almost impossible to tune without a quantizer. did you end up remover the jumpers on the back of the module to make it work properly? i thought the ones I had got were faulty at first, but removing the jumpers completely solved the problems i was having on both of the quantizers i bought - still havent tested the LADIK module yet with sys 55
Regarding jumpers on the Q-040, yes I do have the jumper(s) removed. I did this so long ago, I do not recall why, but I just double checked 😁 Thank you for watching!
@@VisionsMusicGroup when i first got the modules from LADIK, they didnt seem to be quantizing all of the notes properly...some notes really stood out like a sore thumb...the website referred to 3 jumper settings, top, bottom and no jumpers at all. i tried them all and the 'no jumper' option was the only one that worked...something to do with the sensitivity to the incoming voltage signals. anyway i am glad i got them to work (seems maybe you had a similar trial and error situation that you may have forgotten about?)
@@VisionsMusicGroup The AJH Minimod system is awesome. What a monster! Very good build quality, excellent sound, and great customer service (which you will probably not need. I did for a dodgy trimmer on a VCO.)
Hi the delay 172 is a chorus, I love it, make it more subtle . The gates on the 173 can be used as a sub osc with the S/H module - check out th-cam.com/video/fWShhGTb9zk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ilEykIkNGoXxHD7z this is the only video that uses them for a purpose and it works. Great vid by the way the sound of the 100 is soooo good. I love the early Human League and this is their sound (Reproduction and Travelogue) Such a great sound - thanks
I actually love the Behringer GO case. I've thought about picking up a 2nd for the MiniMOD system. The only thing I dislike are... sliding nuts. But they can be replaced 😁
@@tomburden Honestly, it's not super solid like wood of course. There are gaps around the edges, and it does bend slightly when you pick it up full of modules. But for me, the benefits of cost, power (3A) and portability outweigh a barely noticeable plastic feel.
The case is sort of a clone of the Tiptop Mantis case which is also plastic. It’s pretty nice for the price which is only $229 on Sweetwater now. All the modules are less expensive as well so it’s a great time to jump in to this series of modules.
Or they resent the actions of behringer suing people and companies that call them out for copying existing products (SLAPP suit against Ebtech over the comments on a forum about behringer stealing a cable tester design, or the Behringer Swing.) Behringer’s synths and mixers might be affordable and of decent enough quality, but i have trouble supporting a company that will make promotional material making fun of a journalist that reported on their issues.
I’m putting together the 100 system now, next the 2500, or maybe the 2600, that ones easy! Lol. However mixing the Dreadbox system in (very affordable as well, then I’m running the Behringer Brains instead of the 110 right now. I’ll get one eventually plus I’m running a Radical Technologies 311 Swarm, a AMS Ensemble and a Roland M1 with a crave, k2 and Neutron. All of the Dreadbox Effects with modular connectivity a few without. So you’re set up is pretty close to mine. I went crazy with the oscillating 69 so far just in this set up. 71 with the Deepmind 12. I haven’t decided to use it as my keyboard yet. This I Just the Modular, I got more full synths and guitar synths, tons of FX. I love Behringer I would never have Been able to afford a modular set up without them! I’m paying close attention to your videos because I’m new to Modular as well! Both feet in the deep end!!! Lol ty for the video’s!
Great video. I find shoebridge to be a drone in his own right… boring as hell and unwatchable videos. I’m sure he’s a great guy, he just sends me to sleep. Whereas your video was exciting, enthusiastic and very watchable and consequently taught me a lot. Thanks
I think Tim is a genius and very methodical in his explanation . It's all taste, nothing against your feelings. after watching Tim's look at the system 55, I understood more about modular than I ever had before.
I would likely agree with your theories... as an American. Fortunately, the haters haven't found this video yet :-) (or, unfortunately? I could use 100,000 more views)
I always wondered why people spend so much money on such impressive hardware and all they do with it play some simple random computer beeps. So far i couldn't find any video about modular where they didn't just played some simple beeps my Commodore 64 could have done just as easily 40 years ago. Isn't it possible to play real music on these devices, like you can with regular synths?
Great question, thank you! First, you have to define "real music"; because one mans bleep is another mans music, truly. But I get what you're saying, I had the same impression at the start as well. The short answer, yes absolute, you can use modular and random events and voltages to create "real music". Check out the Modular Works collection by State Azure, or sessions by SUTURE SOUND, or long form generative streams by Mirko Ruta and dozens of other examples. They are out there, you just have to know what to ask for. "Ambient" (if that's your thing) "generative" (if you like long form pieces that create themselves) or artists that work entirely with Modular Synths and put albums out on Bandcamp, Spotify, etc. Lots of bleeping and blooping, otherwise... which is not a bad thing :) Even my own Sonic Experiments playlist here is more than just bloops, but again, it's matter of taste.
As far as these TH-cam overviews and tutorials go, Tim Shoebridge is the only person I've come across that has physically played a song tune, on a modular synth.
What, you too? After watching Tim Shoebridge I ended up with more oscillators than I budgeted for, but then again his videos are excellent at expalining why one isn't always enough. I thought I'd join you on your modular journey, so I hope you don't mind I've subbed and now watching your backcatalogue. Excellent.
Tim is a magnificent resource for reviews and learning... and indirect buying advice 😂
I have no problem with Behringer, I just bought the System 55 and will be adding a few more modules to the bottom row, I have they're Odyssey, DeepMind 6 and the 2600 and have had zero issues with any of it, I will eventually be adding the System 100 to the mix, Very informative video, thanks for posting. Just found this video and learned some things from it even though it is a year old.
Wow, this is probably the best intro to modular on TH-cam. Seriously, I've watched everything from really big TH-camrs and it felt more like a brag fest.
For other beginners wondering about other good sources, I'll say that Omri's VCV Rack stuff is also amazing.
First, I love Behringer! Making my synth dreams come true.
Great description of each module.
The system 100 is very compelling because of how well thought out it is, and how much they pack into each module.
The only down side is, that they are a little cramped.
Thanks for this video, and best wishes for your continued success.
I do like Behringer because they give me access to good gear which I could not afford elsewhere. ❤
The end sequence sounds fantastic. Really inspiring, it’s very Mass Effect sounding. Instantly makes me want the same setup. Modular is so addictive, it’s tragic..
Just found this video, AWSOME! Thank you for sharing this experience. I too have been watching Tim Shoebridge videos on the B System 100 modules. During covid lockdown, I wanted to build a system like this, but like you experienced, the supply of modules was limited or nonexistent. I see that this stuff is now available, might be the right time to build out a system like this. I love the exploration of modular and trying to figure out how to make it play a roll in music making along side my other music gear. Thanks again for this video!
Thanks for doing this and being so open about your noobness! A lot of us ARE noobs. Like you I really wanted to get a System 100 system and have just ordered my first four modules, so this video has been really helpful.
Absolutely fantastic video. Thank you for taking the time to explain everything in such depth. This is pretty much the exact same setup I have in mind and now I am even more certain about what I am after. Wonderful. All the best to you!
Great video!!! It's good to see how one could build up a patch from scratch with these modules and in particular which additional modules such as clock divider and quantizer would be needed, as they are a bit of a must-have in order to get going. So, pointing out what additional modules to get to complement these basic modules is very appreciated.Things got out of hand for me and ended I up with a 8 voice 24 oscillator 100m system put in sturdy, custom made IKEA skiffs .....
With regard to Behringer hate, I thinks it undeserved when it comes to their 100m series. It's true to the original more or less. The build quality is good. Out of 24 oscillators purchased, 1 was defect which was replaced immediately, I guess that's ok.
The not so good things in the system is that the oscillators have had tuning issues (see Tim Shoebridge), the tiny pots make it very hard to tune the oscillators/sequencers and that same controls (portamento) need to be attenuated in order to be useful. Otherwise, I am quite happy with it.
You got a System 8. I got Behringer System 100m. Kudos from Chicago.
My home town ❣ Thank you.
12 o'clock..... Concerning the tuning of oscillators, my brain works like yours ;-)
thanks for your time making this video i think you did great im also new to this eurorack game and i found your demo helpful keep at it man!
To be able to hear the effect of Phase Shift or Audio Delay it's better to use a harmonically rich continuous tone which is not interrupted by the envelopes (pass a chord of saws into it).
I will give that a try! Thank you!
I have a bunch of Behringer stuff in my own modular and plan to obtain many more modules. Nothing wrong with it.
Uli Behringer has enabled more people to experience the joys of EuroRack modular synthesizers and synthesis in general.
Any haters in the comments should just be ignored. We can live without the misguided opinions of these people.
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Great advice, thank you. I've been fortunate, my channel is pretty small so I do not get too much negative commentary here.
You know, it is a great means for people to get into modular music. I remember Moog re releasing the Moog 15 for about $15000. Insane!!
I didn’t hear you mention this but there are 11 system 100 modules, the one you don’t have is one I’d recommend to anyone curious about getting the system 100 sound with just one module. It’s the 110 module, which is also recommended by Tim Shoebridge as a starter module.
These modules sound great and are stable and very flexible analog modules. I love them all except maybe the 172 phase shifter/delay which is really underwhelming and I guess it’s the same with the old Roland versions.
Really enjoyed your video. A built out System 100 is a lot to get your head around despite the basic simplicity of each of the module functions. I’m still finding things - and occasionally getting lost - working with mine.
Great video! The jam at the end sounded great :) I just bought the last module I needed to complete the 2500 series clone. I bought the 182 while i waited for other 2500 modules to release, and yeah, that 5v range is definitely tough to deal with without a quantizer, which I use an Erica Synths pico quant for.
Liked and subbed!
Great video and explanation of the modules! Think I want to build my own System 100 now... 😊
You should! Also, check out a channel named "synthe sizer83" for an even more in-depth look into Behringer modules.
Great video, thank you! I just ordered my first modular, many modules from the system100.
I'd love to see more in depth videos of the individual modules. Screw the haters.
The only solid reason to hate Behringer is when you bought a 5000 euros machine (like the 909) and now Behringer made a better version for 350 euros and you feel ripped off.
"I have a studio worth 200.000 euros because I have collected super expensive synths which aren't produced anymore"
Yeah, nice, I have the same setup for 10.000 euros because Behringer copied it, included MIDI and USB, added community suggested features and released it for an honest price instead of making it only accessible to the elite and rich.
If you don't like it, just don't buy it! Feel free to pay for overpriced machines, it's your money. And there are loads of machines they didn't copy and are awesome!
Small machine producers can't compete with the low prices of Behringer, that's true. But there's always a market for those machines too.
R&D will never stop, even Behringer does R&D to create new machines like the Neutron and Proton and to continue the Crave, Edge and Spice line (further then Moog did).
But they also copy stuff that's not produced anymore which is super expensive and rare (909, 808, 303 etc.), and copy stuff which is a ripoff (Moog Mother32 etc.) while make it better to make it accessible to anyone.
Programmers copy and share their codes all the time. It makes the world better.
Just be happy you don't have to sell some of you organs to be able to buy a synth to add to your collection. I'd rather have 10 cheap ones then 1 expensive one for the same total price. Focus your hate towards Putin instead :)
Love your passion, especially the closing line 🥰 While I myself do not hate Behringer, I do understand the animosity isn't necessarily the copying of old, unavailable hardware - it's copying things that are still currently available - e.g., Swing, Abacus, etc. Otherwise, I love how Behringer revives old, dead classics at a fraction of the cost to us than "official necromancy", so for that I am grateful. My UB-Xa is enroute 😁
PS: Welcome to The Rabbit Hole (modular) 😂😈 The Rabbit is old. The Rabbit is wise.
you probably would have heard the phase shifter effect much better during your drone sequence, it can produce a real gnarly PWM type sound. Short plucky sounds don't really pair well with that effect.
Currently building a Berhinger 2500 system, which will also integrate a Model D, and 2 2600s. I will need more sequencers
I have also nearly completely built my system 100 as well (another Shoebridge victim!) Just missing the 297 but that has increased in price pretty heavily, so as a nice to have module (as opposed to need to have) I'll wait for a good deal. You probably know this by now, but I find the tuning switch on the 305 mixer module is great.
Excellent content, I'm also an old guy and always wanted one too. In my case I've gone the system 55 path, but once you open the mouse trap you are trapped too so I guess next objective looks like a row of this system in the spare row I have at the bottom
Great video! Thanks for sharing your though process. That is the most valuable thing (seeing how and why you made your decisions). I'm an old modular guy from way back in the 70's and I'm just getting into eurorack and currently building a Behringer System 100m rack and I was wondering if I should get a quantizer for the sequencer and you not only convinced me to get one, but recommended one and a clock divider. Thanks for that information. It really helps those of us just getting into eurorack with what to buy.
Ooo and OG modular user! I bet Eurorack's teensy-ness feels odd under your fingers :-)
@@VisionsMusicGroup Yea I knew they were small, but when I first ordered the Behringer System 55 I was kinda shocked at how small the modules really were when it arrived. I've gotten use to it now but my old fat fingers do get in the way sometimes. Still these are systems that I never could have afforded back in the day so I'm grateful to be able to experience them now.
Audio Delay is used for a chorus or flanger effect. If you can get the dry signal mixed with a delayed signal you’ll get a comb filter. If you add an LFO to the delay time (while the dry and delayed signal are mixed) you’ll get a chorus or flanger effect depending on delay time.
I was about to go all in on System 100 last year but ran into the same stock issue as you. It may be time to do it now that they are all back in stock! Any purchase regrets in terms of modules (buy more/less, omit, etc.?)
Thank you for the Audio Delay tip! As for regrets, as far as these System 100 modules go the only thing I am not making use of is the 297 (except the dual Portamento occasionally) and the ParametricEQ in the 305. Seems a waste that the EQ only handles 1 channel, unless I have completely missed a feature somewhere 😁 I may not have needed 2 ea VCF, VCA and EG... since they have so many i/o each... but it wasn't a heavy spend and looks all sexy in it's symmetry 🥰
@@VisionsMusicGroup the 297 has a lot of functionality. It has two 4 channel CV or audio mixers, you can invert the output signal and that can be a gate or any control voltage. Tons of uses for that to create complex LFOs and more. Inputs 3 and 4 are normalized to + or - 10v and you can attenuate those levels to send specific voltages to other modules.
If you use the +10v out near the middle and send that to the CV input on the delay, it slows it down a little to where it’s almost usable as a chorus effect. It’s more of a bucket brigade delay or flanger than a delay; I wish they hadn’t called it that but maybe that’s what Roland did as well. It’s pretty noisy so I don’t use it much but it is fun to play with.
All these modules are discounted right now so I’d encourage everyone to get at least a few of them. They are real workhorses for any modular system, and sound great in my opinion.
@@ericMT I agree with you on all counts, especially the ''get em while they're cheap(er)' recommendation. They are wonderful little modules.
The System 55 is nice, and it's $1,599 now, down from $3,799.
do ya like how it sounds?
I really do. It's fat :-) like me!❣
Great video 👍. I'm looking to get the 110 (VCO+VCF+VCF) to get a touch of Roland smoothness for the Neutron-based sound engine I'm building for my Roland AE-30 wind synth. I'm sure it won't be the last of these modules! 😀
Thanks, Uncle Mick! 🥰
I can 100% recommend the 110 Module. Sounds better than my Neutron. Wonderful analogue smoothness, really nice filter. Price point is incredible.
@@tauminoris6035 it's so nice being able to add stuff to the Neutron like the 904A filter for some solid bass tones. I'm trying to figure out some VCAs so I could have the Mooginess when I'm playing down low and then a choice of Neutron aggression or Roland smoothness when playing up high.
Yep. Screw Behringer. :D
Thanks for the upload and content.
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Cannot tell if your comment is serious or sarcastic...
@@DadIsALoon half serious. I dislike Behringer, I don't hold it against people who buy their stuff though.
@Jeff Hopkins Fair enough. Question, though; is Behringer behaving in a way more heinous than Apple?
@@DadIsALoon on different levels probably not. Then again I don't have an iPhone either. Though I do have a hand me down ipad 😆
Behringer's clone stuff just rubs me wrong though.
Excellente vidéo pour un novice comme moi! Petite question qui n’est jamais abordée sur TH-cam : sur quel module dois-je connecter mon keystep pro et mes enceintes? Dois-je connecter ma carte son sur mon système modulaire et ensuite connecter mes enceinte sur ma carte son?
Hello! I do not know French, but I will try. I just did this video: th-cam.com/video/cKd0k0xPxQc/w-d-xo.html about how I connect Modular to Sound/DAW, maybe it answers your question. As for Keystep - the CV/Gate out of Keystep, CV goes to v/Oct module (pitch), and Gate goes to VCA (volume) to open/close VCA. I hope this helps.
Fabulous video. Can you help me though plz. I have a full system as well, apart from the combined vco,vcf and vca module (110). I can only get stereo panning with the module mixer if I plug the outputs straight into the speakers. If I plug in via my UMC22 Behringer audio interface, it combines the outputs and its basically mono. Are you using a stereo mixer or something?? I need to monitor the stereo from the speakers as well as record in stereo. I've tried to get help from forums. But always seem to get the 'what are you trying to achieve ' and 'whats wrong with mono?' Unbelievable. Please could you explain in simple newbie terms. Thank you kindly.
Taking a quick look at the UMC22, I do see 2 inputs (mic/inst) and 2 outputs (L/R) but I do not see an option for "panning". If you're also using a DAW (Abelton, Logic, etc) you'll likely need to pan the incoming MONO signals from L/R Out to either a stereo pair or 2 mono tracks in the DAW, which should then let you pan. Aside from this, I am afraid I cannot help much more. The above is exactly what I use, but my mixer is a Mackie DL32R so a bit bigger than the UMC22, which may be more configurable.
@@VisionsMusicGroup The system 100 has a panning function on the mixer module. Since I posted this I purchased a stereo audio interface and my problem was fixed. So the UMC22 is mono.
Hi, bit late to the party here but I’ll leave a comment anyway. Regarding the Audio Delay, I think you’re not hearing it because it patched before the VCA which is cutting off the effect if you see what I mean? The Phaser and Delay work better post VCA. I have a Roland eurorack System 500 case. The Phaser on that is really noisy 😀 Got to say you can’t really beat this Behringer stuff for the price. I’m looking into getting a few of these to expand my 100 setup which how I came across your video. Nice work!!
Thank you for the tip, Toby! Makes sense. I'll give it a try!
I'm a little confused. Did you get one of each of the modules,or did you get multiple of the same modules?
A little of both. See the Description, there's a list of Specs of what each module is. Thanks for watching!
QUESTION: does combining the dual VCO, dual VCF, dual VCA, and dual Envelope Generator yield a true "two-voice" (duophonic) polysynth? As in, can both VCOs run through their own independent VCF/VCA/EG? Or, in practice, is it more like paraphony, where while the VCOs may be assigned different pitches, they all run through the same VCF/VCA/EG?
I'm trying to build a 4-voice polysynth with the system 100 and this would be helpful to know.
Hello! I am no expert, so you really should fact check me, but if you look at chapter Part 2 Recap @ 36:03 you can see a green patch cable going from VCO 1 to VCF 1 to VCA 1 and a gate signal to EG 1 that opens/closes VCA 1. Same with blue patch cable (Voice 2, completely separate signal path), and later for Voice 3 (Red) and Voice 4 (Yellow) by the end of the presentation.
I have never done "polyphony" with a keyboard controller, but I know this setup (dual 112, 121, 130, 140) would yield 4 entirely separate voices, each filterable and enveloped/gated separately. I think this is what you're asking. Hopefully someone else can weigh in and verify this for you.
@@VisionsMusicGroup thank you for the reply! This is helpful. This lets me know the modules are capable, and that it’s just a matter of finding a keyboard that can pull off the desirable note allocation…
In a semi-related note, is there anything in the modules that would allow for keyboard filter tracking. Because, as I’m sure you know, playing polyphonically without keyboard tracking can be problematic
@@jibberish00 Hmm, this I cannot be sure of. I do know that MIDI to CV converters usually have a Pitch, Gate, and Mod option, where the Mod might alter frequency on higher notes, but that would require the Controller itself (keyboard) to send that data as something that can be converted to CV. Might ask the experts about that one, this is just my guess.
@@jibberish00 FYI, just rediscovered this guy's films on the System 100 duophonic concepts, if you want to check his playlist out th-cam.com/video/hs2nm3CrGZ8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=f5_yE1_Lz8P0iPAJ
Yo, Zach! Just my tuppenceworth, but you could build a minimal duophonic system using just three Behringer modules plus a MIDI/CV module. Two 110 voice modules (not included in the setup displayed in the above video) and a 140 dual-envelope/LFO will suffice to give you a duophonic synth (you may find that you also need a couple of multiple modules but these are dirt cheap). Happy noodling!
Surprising you didn’t get a couple 110 modules…
Me too :)
i stumbled across your videos a couple of weeks ago - i am on a similar trajectory to you with modular. i got the sys 55 because of the sale and then i got a load of these sys 100 modules (because these were the ones i always truly wanted) - i noted your recommendation re the LADIK quad quantizer, so i bought 2 of them, one for the sys 55 and one for the sys 100. the sys 100 sequencer is almost impossible to tune without a quantizer. did you end up remover the jumpers on the back of the module to make it work properly? i thought the ones I had got were faulty at first, but removing the jumpers completely solved the problems i was having on both of the quantizers i bought - still havent tested the LADIK module yet with sys 55
Regarding jumpers on the Q-040, yes I do have the jumper(s) removed. I did this so long ago, I do not recall why, but I just double checked 😁 Thank you for watching!
@@VisionsMusicGroup when i first got the modules from LADIK, they didnt seem to be quantizing all of the notes properly...some notes really stood out like a sore thumb...the website referred to 3 jumper settings, top, bottom and no jumpers at all. i tried them all and the 'no jumper' option was the only one that worked...something to do with the sensitivity to the incoming voltage signals. anyway i am glad i got them to work (seems maybe you had a similar trial and error situation that you may have forgotten about?)
That was great
I have a modular set up I think it’s 84 HP case but I would like to build this system as well
My next “full synth” build will be the AJH MiniMod system
@@VisionsMusicGroup The AJH Minimod system is awesome. What a monster! Very good build quality, excellent sound, and great customer service (which you will probably not need. I did for a dodgy trimmer on a VCO.)
@@tshou520 Awesome, thank you. btw, this years' Christmas gift to myself: full MiniMOD voice + some friends :) Stay tuned for my squealing with glee!
Hi the delay 172 is a chorus, I love it, make it more subtle . The gates on the 173 can be used as a sub osc with the S/H module - check out th-cam.com/video/fWShhGTb9zk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ilEykIkNGoXxHD7z this is the only video that uses them for a purpose and it works. Great vid by the way the sound of the 100 is soooo good. I love the early Human League and this is their sound (Reproduction and Travelogue) Such a great sound - thanks
Thank you for the link! I have watched a ton of synthe sizers videos on the System 100, but I missed this one!
Thx👍🏼
Me, having just ordered a single set of modules: 🤔Maybe I should have bought 2 😅
Go big or go home, I always say 😜
How do you like the case?
I actually love the Behringer GO case. I've thought about picking up a 2nd for the MiniMOD system. The only thing I dislike are... sliding nuts. But they can be replaced 😁
@@VisionsMusicGroup Does plastic feel sturdy? I have been going back and forth between a wooden case and behringer go case.
@@tomburden Honestly, it's not super solid like wood of course. There are gaps around the edges, and it does bend slightly when you pick it up full of modules. But for me, the benefits of cost, power (3A) and portability outweigh a barely noticeable plastic feel.
The case is sort of a clone of the Tiptop Mantis case which is also plastic. It’s pretty nice for the price which is only $229 on Sweetwater now. All the modules are less expensive as well so it’s a great time to jump in to this series of modules.
Which patch cord you bought?
Most of my patch cables are ExcelValley, inexpensive and doing the job so far www.amazon.com/s?k=ExcelValley
Chicago bulls fan I see. I know some will say it’s Alan parsons but we know. Chicago Bulls 😝
B haters = people who realize they paid way too much for their non-B modules.
Or they resent the actions of behringer suing people and companies that call them out for copying existing products (SLAPP suit against Ebtech over the comments on a forum about behringer stealing a cable tester design, or the Behringer Swing.) Behringer’s synths and mixers might be affordable and of decent enough quality, but i have trouble supporting a company that will make promotional material making fun of a journalist that reported on their issues.
@@nebulance4289 I am guessing you have no problem using Apple products made with slave labor under conditions that drive workers to suicide...
I like B-modules and have other more expensive to, it doesn't matter and they really make good modules
I’m putting together the 100 system now, next the 2500, or maybe the 2600, that ones easy! Lol. However mixing the Dreadbox system in (very affordable as well, then I’m running the Behringer Brains instead of the 110 right now. I’ll get one eventually plus I’m running a Radical Technologies 311 Swarm, a AMS Ensemble and a Roland M1 with a crave, k2 and Neutron. All of the Dreadbox Effects with modular connectivity a few without. So you’re set up is pretty close to mine. I went crazy with the oscillating 69 so far just in this set up. 71 with the Deepmind 12. I haven’t decided to use it as my keyboard yet. This I Just the Modular, I got more full synths and guitar synths, tons of FX. I love Behringer I would never have Been able to afford a modular set up without them! I’m paying close attention to your videos because I’m new to Modular as well! Both feet in the deep end!!! Lol ty for the video’s!
Great video. I find shoebridge to be a drone in his own right… boring as hell and unwatchable videos. I’m sure he’s a great guy, he just sends me to sleep. Whereas your video was exciting, enthusiastic and very watchable and consequently taught me a lot. Thanks
I think Tim is a genius and very methodical in his explanation . It's all taste, nothing against your feelings. after watching Tim's look at the system 55, I understood more about modular than I ever had before.
I believe it's pronounced Behringer with the "g" as in the word ring.
Hating Behringer is basically an American thing...I dont know why, but I have some theories.
I would likely agree with your theories... as an American. Fortunately, the haters haven't found this video yet :-) (or, unfortunately? I could use 100,000 more views)
I don’t understand the haters . If another brand is cloning old gear no one is complaining.
People don't hate behringer bots and paid fools hate it to make a buck.....big difference
No, some people do hate Behringer.