Haven’t watched just yet, but as a recent DO graduate MD is better. Both offer a lot of value, but DO is usually more expensive and limits options. Excited to listen to the episode.
Great video. Im a DO in emergency medicine. No real difference between the two IMO. My advice... go to the cheapest medical school you can find, you will learn how to be a doctor in residency. For the time being... if you want to go into a competitive specialty, it will be easier if you are an MD, but that is quickly changing. And finally most DOs take the MD boards as well, so all in all it really doesn't matter which route.
OK I'm gonna come out and say it. I'm shocked that Dr. Storch didn't draw the conclusion immediately when the question came up...why are there so many new DO schools? No need to have any rotation set up for students, and you get to charge exorbitant tuition! I have a few DO friends who speak of the "DO tax." It's the higher tuition you're paying. It's the extra money you have to spend on taking both COMLEX and USMLE. It's the extra effort you have to go through to set up rotations in your clinical years. It's the extra stress of feeling the inferiority complex during the match process. The fact that MD schools on average have higher admission requirements is another reason that many people say MD > DO. You glossed over it in the podcast, but this fact is in the back of everyone's' minds when they compare two applicants MD and DO. We know the reason most people go to DO schools, and it's not because they "get to choose where they rotate" or they "really believed in the holistic approach and OMM." It's the same as how we all know why people go to caribbean schools. You think anyone is saying "yeah I got into UCLA, Stanford, Yale, and Harvard, but you know what...I read SGU's curriculum and was so impressed that I turned those other schools down." No. People go to caribbean schools because they failed out of or couldn't get into a US medical school. Likewise, people go to DO schools because they didn't think they'd get into any good MD schools. There's nothing inherently wrong with being a DO physician, and I know many DOs who are bright and genius-level. However, it's disingenuous to advise someone who legitimately has a choice between MD or DO to go the DO route. Just ask any OMS-III or OMS-IV right now: "Imagine that somehow there was a mixup and you were actually accepted to a good MD school during your application cycle, would you go back in time and go to that school instead?"
The insane cost of many DO schools artificially perpetuates this perception. I imagine many choose MD schools over DO because they're often so mich cheaper.
@@joshb2686 Let me be more specific. As of 10 years ago, when applying for competitive emergency medicine residencies it made no difference for me given very strong board (USMLE Step 1, Step 2, and COMLEX) scores and good letters of recommendation. I ended up getting my number one pick. My impression is that once you are out of residency or fellowship no one cares. Now you’re talking about trying to get into an ultra competitive specialty or you have average board scores that may not be true. I’m many years out from the experience at this point. I would say if you have been accepted to both an MD program and a DO program you should pick whichever one has lower/in state tuition and if there is no difference in tuition lean towards the MD. One disadvantage to DO schools is that they tend to be very expensive. But honestly, this is not a situation that most people are in. Make sure you go to the first place that will accept you in the United States. Make sure that you study very hard and do very well on your board exams if you want to get to into a competitive specialty. Remember that when it is all over and you are searching for jobs that it will literally not make a single bit of difference. And remember to live like a resident for a few years out of residency either way.
@@joshb2686 I would say that it still makes a difference in certain surgical specialties but if you are not interested in those, it makes little difference for many other specialties.
Would love to see an interview with social media influencers/comedians Dr. Glaucomflecken or Dr. Mike
I think Glaucomflecken and Jim Dahle do not see eye to eye but it would be interesting to see.
Haven’t watched just yet, but as a recent DO graduate MD is better. Both offer a lot of value, but DO is usually more expensive and limits options. Excited to listen to the episode.
Great interview!
I also heard it limits your ability to practice internationally (if that's something you plan to do).
@@pak3211how about interplanetarily?
@@pak3211yeah, you can practice in maaaany countries but there are definitely some like Switzerland for example where you can’t.
Great video. Im a DO in emergency medicine. No real difference between the two IMO. My advice... go to the cheapest medical school you can find, you will learn how to be a doctor in residency. For the time being... if you want to go into a competitive specialty, it will be easier if you are an MD, but that is quickly changing. And finally most DOs take the MD boards as well, so all in all it really doesn't matter which route.
OK I'm gonna come out and say it.
I'm shocked that Dr. Storch didn't draw the conclusion immediately when the question came up...why are there so many new DO schools? No need to have any rotation set up for students, and you get to charge exorbitant tuition! I have a few DO friends who speak of the "DO tax." It's the higher tuition you're paying. It's the extra money you have to spend on taking both COMLEX and USMLE. It's the extra effort you have to go through to set up rotations in your clinical years. It's the extra stress of feeling the inferiority complex during the match process.
The fact that MD schools on average have higher admission requirements is another reason that many people say MD > DO. You glossed over it in the podcast, but this fact is in the back of everyone's' minds when they compare two applicants MD and DO. We know the reason most people go to DO schools, and it's not because they "get to choose where they rotate" or they "really believed in the holistic approach and OMM." It's the same as how we all know why people go to caribbean schools. You think anyone is saying "yeah I got into UCLA, Stanford, Yale, and Harvard, but you know what...I read SGU's curriculum and was so impressed that I turned those other schools down." No. People go to caribbean schools because they failed out of or couldn't get into a US medical school. Likewise, people go to DO schools because they didn't think they'd get into any good MD schools.
There's nothing inherently wrong with being a DO physician, and I know many DOs who are bright and genius-level. However, it's disingenuous to advise someone who legitimately has a choice between MD or DO to go the DO route. Just ask any OMS-III or OMS-IV right now: "Imagine that somehow there was a mixup and you were actually accepted to a good MD school during your application cycle, would you go back in time and go to that school instead?"
The insane cost of many DO schools artificially perpetuates this perception. I imagine many choose MD schools over DO because they're often so mich cheaper.
Makes no difference if you score well on boards.
Not really true.
@@joshb2686 Let me be more specific. As of 10 years ago, when applying for competitive emergency medicine residencies it made no difference for me given very strong board (USMLE Step 1, Step 2, and COMLEX) scores and good letters of recommendation. I ended up getting my number one pick. My impression is that once you are out of residency or fellowship no one cares. Now you’re talking about trying to get into an ultra competitive specialty or you have average board scores that may not be true. I’m many years out from the experience at this point. I would say if you have been accepted to both an MD program and a DO program you should pick whichever one has lower/in state tuition and if there is no difference in tuition lean towards the MD. One disadvantage to DO schools is that they tend to be very expensive. But honestly, this is not a situation that most people are in. Make sure you go to the first place that will accept you in the United States. Make sure that you study very hard and do very well on your board exams if you want to get to into a competitive specialty. Remember that when it is all over and you are searching for jobs that it will literally not make a single bit of difference. And remember to live like a resident for a few years out of residency either way.
@@joshb2686 I would say that it still makes a difference in certain surgical specialties but if you are not interested in those, it makes little difference for many other specialties.