'14 Tahoe "Service Suspension System" With A Side Of Corrosion
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- In this video I have a look at a customers 2014 Chevy Tahoe that came in with a complaint of a Service Suspension System message being displayed on the dash as well as the ABS and Stability light being on. I gave it a look over several weeks ago and now it is back to be fixed.
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OK here's my NY corrosion story. Bought a full sized 2000 RAM van in 2002. Lovely vehicle, ran great, put a ton of miles on it, the only repair before it died (other than regular maintenance) was an idler pulley came off on a road trip through PA, the whole thing was just a great reliable vehicle. I thought the rear bench seat seatbelts were getting kind of crusty around 2012, figured for giggles I would stop in a junk yard in Richmond, VA and pick up some seat belts or anything else that I needed for my old gal. In that junk yard was the exact same vehicle on its side. Perfect. Not a spec of rust anywhere on the underbelly. Meanwhile mine is in the parking lot with about 30% weight reduction front to rear. I should have parked them side-by-side and swapped engine, transmission etc as mine had fewer miles and driven the scrapped one home!
Haha i had the same idea today as i needed a steering gear for a 2000 Chevy 3500HD as it sat a while here in Boston and the gear has a pinhole now in it and looked up one at a junkyard and it looked so much better than what i was working on.
Love the videos. Wish we had a master mechanic here in south Florida like you. Thank you.
I don't recall what part of Florida he lives in but Rainman Ray's Repairs has a place in Florida, he's good. check him out. They both bring up each other once in a while.
Bradenton right by ups terminal
@@ralphedds1Sarasota
Ray don’t compare to Eric. 2 totally different skill levels especially diagnostics
Eric O’…I repaired my Z55 Suspension. It started with the Exhaust Solenoid stuck on, which ran down my Battery while parked at the Airport. So, I replaced the Pump module. Still had issues. So next I replaced the Control Module. Which is that thing above the Spare Tire. Where it rusts out is the Voltage Regulator for the SCM. Only took 2 days to get the Spare down. Got a good used one on e-bay. Had to replace a couple of the Rods to the height sensors. Those rust in two. Since, I have replaced all 4 shocks. I shopped around and found the best deal. Really did not cost that much. Same AC Delco Shocks. After replacing the Front shocks, I found the brakes work better! I tow a trailer and I really like how the suspension levels out the ride.
I can't imagine sending a 2014 vehicle to the scrap yard, that's just insane. I live in MN and drive a 06 and 07 Honda and have no intention or reason to even think about scrapping them!
Same, I saved a 2001 Ford Expedition from the junkyard with only 195k miles on it. It needed work but I’ve replaced all the brakes and coolant, gonna do the windshield since it’s cracked, and gonna repair the AC system next spring.
I found out that the truck has had the coil spring conversion done to it at some point, so I have an air compressor that tries to run but there’s no airbag to be filled. I’m going to try and convert it back to air ride at some point. Mind you, it’s an 01 and I feel like it can still have a lot life left in it as long as I maintain it. I picked it up for $500 so I don’t mind spending a little money to make it good again.
2:28 Wow, thats crazy how it seriously just disintegrated into dust in our wonderful PRNY!‼️ Salt baby....we love it here! Thats just nuts!🛠️🔧🔩👍
You have the touch for abs sensor removal. Never saw one of those air ride suspension combo units. I'll stay with the front struts and rear shocks. Good work Mr. O, nice to see Mrs. O.
Thanks for keeping the videos coming. I've only been watching for a few months but I've learned some great tips. You'd make a good instructor.
You always do a complete job using best practices and materials. Nice work.
I too have had good luck with Mevotech TTX products.
Ball joints in my Civic fit great and were a breeze to do
The same line for my 2011 RAM not so much, could not press them in with the arm installed, had to use the shop press, took 5 tons to seat, then the CV axles interfere with the grease fittings.
Only way to grease them is into the axle nut hold the axle back and add grease.
Love the channel!!
Keep it up.
From a fellow salt belt tech North of the border.
I love it when an owner replaces the parts rather than trading it in for a new SUV.
At least you know there will be a compressor at Wilbert’s next year
No doubt
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Bump- Bump -Bah! Brake Clean😊
Yeah! 😆 Unfortunately, Eric missed an opportunity for an easy future salvage by not placing anti-seize on the bolts. 🤣
Cool little town. Love to see all the 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
And that kids, is why you always provide a complete repair quote. Never know when they’ll fix it
Raining again... what a crappy summer in WNY. Raining as often as Eric is fixing Chevrolet's.
My old chevy truck lasted me 28 years in the rust belt. I painted the underside when new and washed it religiously year round. Now who knows they make the cars and trucks to have lives of ten years or less.
I commend the owner for paying for this fix, but the airbag delete - Monroe replace would have been the way to go.
This system actually works really well when everything is functioning. Always holds the vehicle level when loaded yet doesn’t ride stiff when unloaded.
@@allisb1123agreed, especially if he tows often 👍
I really appreciate the way you diagnose and solve the problem, I've been marathoning your videos about transducers, thanks for sharing so much knowledge. Greetings from the interior of São Paulo, Brazil.
I've been to Sao Paulo! Good to see Brasil show up on this channel. Boa tarde.
Excellent Video to help me with my '11 Avalanche LTZ with suspension light on!
We had a stainless steel 6 inch? through bolt frozen in the aluminum housing on the lower end of an inboard/outboard. The nut came right off, the bolt was sprayed down on both ends with Kroil, 24hrs no movement, 48hrs no movement, 72hrs movement, still took almost 40 minutes to get it out but we did it. You have to give the Kroil the time to do its work. In a shop where time is truly money, you have no time to waste. I believe it the stuff.
Nothing better than recording all kinds of content and getting files that dont work when you go to put it all together.
Thanks Mr O, enjoyed the vid as usual. Especially appreciated the discussion on part quality, more of this in depth would be super valuable for each of your repairs. Junk parts are a killer.
As smooth as Butter Eric O. Great video once again. Cheers from Adelaide Australia.
Good lookin’ sticker on your bottle. 😊
I've heard about polishing a turd...but now we're gonna see it live right here folks.
Another great video Mr. O. Actually the undercarriage didn't look too corroded. I was surprised at how clean the shock mount bolts were.Hope the smoke clears soon.
Project Farm has a great test of penetrating oils…
Liquid wrench topped the list and the pricey Kroil finished near the bottom of the list.
If you have 2 weeks for it to work, penetrating oil is helpful. If you need it in and out of the shop, heat is the only reasonable option.
I loved your comment about the spare tire
Back in 2004 I worked at a Hummer dealership when an H2 came in because the air compressor didn't shut off. The compressor not shutting off caused one of the air springs to pop. We had it in the shop when the air spring popped which was LOUD and sounded like an explosion. Those compressors might look small but can put out enough pressure to pop an air spring that supports several thousand pounds. So be careful when working with air spring suspensions.
Thank you for the video
CHEVY THUNDER
Keep it coming
i am amazed that the damage caused by the salt can quickly dissolved cars and trucks. I have 2003 ranger that the frame just has surface rust. i guess there is an advantage to live on the california cost
Back before you were born the Napa line of parts was a sideline for a full service machine shop. The early "Blue Streak" ignition parts were total crap. The last time I bought a oil pressure sending unit ($80) it never worked at all. I'm buying less and less from my friends at NAPA. Good experienced guys who don't have any control over quality. I prefer Moog suspension when I can get it although many of the old reliable names are just that, names!:(
Were in southern western Canada. Visability from smoke this morning was only a mile.
The salt damage in your state is just unbelievable.
Did this job back in the day to 2004 Denali. Needed system since I towed a boat with it. Aftermarket pump lasted until I got rid of it 6 years later. I got the shocks from Bilstein who made replacements at the time. All of it was $600. I can't imagine what the cost is today.
I use a panel popper on the speed sensors.. but of course i'm not in the rust belt lol Great video as always!
I'm impressed with them "Donkey" kicks.
Sometimes penetrating oil helps lube the threads so it unscrews easier and lessens the chance of breaking the bolt.
Good morning! Great day for a SMA vid!
Hello Mr O. Alas there is so much reporting of cars rusting away heading to the crusher, and alas there are ways to vastly slow down or largely prevent under side rust of all those components. I personally spray used motor oil into every nook and cranny i can find underneath. I mean yes really every nook and cranny. Yes even brush coat all brake parts except disc surface and pads., Double coat all break and fuel lines and all fittings with a mixture of tar and used motor oil. Stuff does not rust. So I would like to see post on how well rust mitigation works. Perhaps I'll drive my 1992 Buick Lasabre over to your shop from Minnesota for an inspection.
Alas alas we don't have to watch our cars go to the early grave of the crusher. Yes a very frugal person. Good stewardship? Likely.
Just because the bolt and nut threads were totally dry doesn't mean the Kroil didn't loosen them.
- Keyboard Mechanic
Another quality video from Mr.O. Absolutely correct on the Mevotech garbage Eric. The TTX line is definitely higher quality. Check out XRF steering and suspension components, you will not be sorry.
Good 👍 job !
ninja kicking the wheels is awesome :)
After watching this video, now I need a set of those flat nose needle nose pliers Eric was using. Unfortunately they are Snap On, so I’m looking for a comparable cheaper brand.
Update: Knipex makes a Mechanics pair that look similar. Model 38 41 190.
Going through the same thing in my shop using aftermarket parts I won’t put anything but oem on my car it’s definitely worth the expensive.
You should really look into a cordless Dremel with quick release sanding pads. There is a little one that should fit into tight places that would safe you some time from using the hand file. The battery on it does not last a long time but it will get the job done.
Milwaukee makes one
This tahoe looks wayyyy better than the yukon's frame in the short video!
When I saw 185k on the odometer I am impressed the customer is dropping that kind of $$$ on.
My man makes it look so easy.
When my kids were little, they had a plastic, Little Tykes cozy coupe. I wonder if they rot out in western NY
Penetrating oil may not work (over the available time) but it does help to lube up the exposed crusty threads.
I saw a cartoon, I think it was on Disney, about the American automobile.
It showed a man who had just bought a new car following a salt truck in winter and the car was dissolving as he drove it until there was nothing left!
😂😂😂
Being on the West Coast of Canada, I had forgotten what the sound of cars on wet roads sounds like. LMAO We haven't had any appreciable amount of rain since the end of May.
Was very surprised to hear you talk about #sankei555 Sankei three five. Saw them as an option from my supplier at the time AutoZone and I was like who is this.. chose Sachs over them which was a mistake. Too stiff for the Japanese car. But it's excellent as you said. Along the lines of Tokiko and KYB and Toyota and Hondu. But the Japanese are not even comparable to the other Asian we know and "love." Making most of the Doorman stuff.. you impressed me even more today. And you're pretty darn good most days already. So that's saying a lot! In a good way.
Never seen vehicles this rusty until I watched this channel New York must just dump ton after ton of salt everywhere
$50,000 / 10 years = $5,000 per year. $5,000 / 12 = $416.67 per month!!!
That's your true cost of ownership.
Well the good thing is the laundromat wasn’t on fire again so we can assume Canada is still burning. 😂
I cant be the only tech watching south main videos while procrastinating on your own jobs in the bay right in front of ya lol
Somebody will get some really nice parts at the junkyard.
lmao! the guys at the parts counter prolly couldnt believe they were about to sell one of those compressors. prolly inch of dust on the box 😂😂
"Kroil is good stuff!" Sarcasm OFF!
Bolt is dry when the nut is removed!
Didn't do squat!!
Nice work
You're welcome!! 🙂
As always, Eric great teaching video. How was lunch Mrs. O made for your young rear end!!!! Yum, Yum, thank you Mrs.O. :-)
At the company I work for we’re not supposed to call that a “Christmas tree clip” anymore…it’s now a “fir tree clip”…🙄. I use my middle finger to acknowledge my understanding of the proper terminology. Keep on rockin O’s. 👍🏻
“BIG OLD SWOLLEN NUTS” What are you trying to tell us Mr O?
I always found penetrating oil just to be a placebo. It makes you think. Yeah now I can do it it helped loosen it up. Snap there goes.
Great one !
Nice video, thanks!
I have a feeling the reason why the customer elected to have his vehicle repaired is because he saw the price of new and used vehicles and figured it was still cheaper to throw money at this thing. I know a lot of people down here are doing the same thing the only differences is down here. We don’t have the rot you have down in the PRNY
Rainman Ray is mad at you for all the NY's cars moving to Florida.
Mevotech branded stuff on Rockauto is pretty good.
Loved this video. Can’t wait for next video on this vehicle. Two questions: Did you let Mrs. O know of your infidelity in losing your GM virginity? 😂 also when did you hire Miss New York to work your office? 😁 I agree nothing worth watching on TV. I check my notifications frequently for your posts. Your videos are the most entertaining and informative of all auto channels. Would love to see a video from you about some of the craziest and most bizarre vehicles brought to your shop. God Bless. 🙏👍👍👍😁
just demand they put it back inside the car like the old days
GM makes a bypass kit for rear air suspension, I believe it has standard shocks and some other necessary items to bypass that system, I'm surprised your customer didn't want to go that route, I'm curious what your issue is with Mevotech products, I've used many of their chassis parts for quite some time and find them to be a much better grade than some of the standard replacements, and finally, what was the name of the distributor that you like for Asian vehicle parts, you said it rather quickly, thank you!
I haven't seen a rear-steer truck on here. I don't think Chevy/GMC makes that any more. The first time I saw it, was the last time I saw it. Those must be rare now.
I wish they would quit using air for OE suspension. I have worked in the Auto parts industry for nealry 10 years before going full time TH-cam, All the air systems will fail and usually in the winter and withing 6 years of when the vehicle was made. Here in Montana where we get to -20 a lot in winter they freeze and then the motor burns up trying to runn the compressor.
Kroil better work for its price lol I use atf and acetone (free for me) mix in a sprayer it seems to help....
but like you said who knows.
The rust struggle is real apparently....
I'm surprised he dropped that much coin on a '14 with 185k on the clock. He must love his Chevy...but then again, who doesn't?
At first, I thought this was that teal Tahoe you showed in the short, and I was like, how...why...are they putting money into a vehicle with a rotten frame...then realized this is a different Tahoe. Forgot this is the station wagon of choice in the Southern Tier... lol
I did this job on my '13 Yukon Xl Denali on my gravel driveway... Made me question the meaning of life...
It really baffles me that for a roughly $150.00 a year Krown service, you have a rust free vehicle.
In Iowa we call that surface rust😂
Is like a simpsons episode. Crusty Itchy And scratchy.
I would come to southern AZ to buy a used car which does not have any rust. If you think you keep your car until it is rusted out you are in for a long wait.
You're in NY, son. It's a Holiday Tree fastener.
I thought you might coat the compressor with A FF bath.
Sounds like it would be cheaper to get a frame from down here in the south with all the good stuff on it
Sad when a 2014 is ready for the crusher …
Do they still make a kit to convert to struts and coil springs??
get yourself a 24 or 27 inch monitor your eyes will thank you!
Long time listener first time caller. Would a air suspension delete kit be a more economical way to get a couple more years out of a car with these type of issues?
So when you were waiting for the codes to come back up, were you being held in SUSPENSE? 😂
If the guy had one of those after market insurance policy would it the cover ALL of this repair. AS SEEN ON T V.
At it's age and condition, would it not have been more cost effective to put regular shocks on, and eliminate the air suspension? A friend did this with his GMC SUV. Or, did the customer just not care about the cost. I'm commenting half way through the video, so if it is addressed at the end, mea culpa.
September 5 and STILL smoky in Western Mass...
I. Don't. Miss. The. Rust. Belt!
It's a good thing GM puts on a splash guard to protect insanely expensive modules and the spare tire from corrosion. /s
You just made me think,maybe the splash guard should be on the other side of the unit.Since you drive forward most of the time. Where it's at now ,it acts like a SCOOP. RETAINING all the mud and salt the tires kick up??But I'm sure the ENGINEERS thought of that already,and they wouldn't want you to have to buy this EXPENSIVE unit every 2 years,would they?haha
Seriously, eh! I was thinking the same thing.
Not supporting GM or any manufacturer but if you have an under vehicle spare and don't "exercise" the mount once a year they will seize up. Splash shields can prevent direct impact from road debris, but they can also block wash water from cleaning the built up dirt and salt off of things. Take your choice.
@@BowhuntersFord is 100 times better then any GM
@@toenails. Only in your dreams! I've seen Fords rot right into the ground!
Perfect spot for that compressor. Well done GM.
Just like their side post batterys 🤣🤣🤣 then you have the die hard Chevy that still can't admit defeat 🤣
gm makes junk