Shame on the Canadian government for allowing the exploitation to take place. Shame on the Canadian government for putting Cecile in such a cheap senior living home!
@@sharoneuleenlammersgivenna7986 You are right Bridget. but Let me tell you We don't know the whole story.. Please stop bringing it up about them and included the Quints... IT is not our business to determined who s fault who is who why or what.. nothing. Only God knew all about them it is between God and them period.. Thank you.
to anyone on this comment panel: I sense that we all have NO rights to judge Oliva and Elzire for how they raised the Dionne Quints.. we have no rights to make any comments that we dont know the whole story and even the quints dont remember everything. so STOP discussing behind thier backs in either alive or dead..
Why wasn't the story of the girls "alleged" sexual assault by their father not mentioned in this documentary?. The girls left their home at age 18 and never had much to do with their parents after that. If you are going to tell the story, tell the whole story.
Because this documentary was made in 1994 and the sexual assault was first brought up in a book called "Family Secrets", written by Jean-Yves Soucy with the surviving Dionne Quints and published in 1996.
This is such a tragedy . This would never happen now ... but yes it does in the 20th century just look at the fertility births . When will we ever learn .
I've never heard of these 5 lil babies until today 😩 I find it sad. I can see why they would keep them in the hospital until they were in the clear...as far as health care goes as they were born premature but that is far as it should have gone
Why do they make it sound as though the parents were such victims? Yes, it is true one might feel in over their heads considering the circumstances but according to the girls, just like the Canadian government, the father treated them as objects to be used for profit and the mother seemed to resent them. Their father sold merchandise of them while they were in the hospital. Then fought to get them back so they could be given a "stable home" but that stable home included buying a very large house with the quint's money. Exposing them in public and abusing them verbally and sexually. The girls have said father or mother rarely came to see them when they lived away from home even though they were allowed visitation rights everyday. The Quints regarded Dr. Dafoe as their real father figure and were deeply grieved by his death shortly after they were returned to their parent's custody. "We cried knowing we could never go home to him again!" They said. The tragedy does not belong to the parents! It belongs to Emilie, Annette, Cecile, Yvonne and Marie.
I agree with you, Rachel. The miracle of the births of these five lovely girls is amazing. That being said, they should have been treated as normal children and they weren't. The living Dionne Quints wrote a letter to a mother who had just had quints warning them to keep their babies out of public life. The poor little Dionne Quints became a 'greed' project. I am glad however that the Doctor kept them all alive.
When this documentary was produced over 20 years ago I do not believe the 3 surviving sisters (now it is only 2) mentioned publicly that they were abused by their parents. It was not until the late '90s when their second book was published "Family Secrets". Also it didn’t mention in the documentary, John Nihmey is the co-author of the book “Time of their Lives” which was used as the basis for the telefilm about them. He sympathizes with the parents deeply and the mother apparently cooperated with him to write the book.
Another good book to read is "The Dionne Years' by Pierre Berton. That includes the rest of the family's perspective, an aspect of the story that is generally overlooked.
There were so many complications to the Dionnes being able to adequately care for the quints. They had a baby every one or two years- one just 11 months older than the quints and another born just a year after the quints, and two more after that-- 14 children altogether-. And this was during the Great Depression. Obviously, the government should have helped build a bigger house for the family and helped provide for childcare without putting the children on display.
My grandmother had 14 children starting in 1915 and up into 30s and raised them all being a dirt poor Roman Catholic immigrant from the Azores.. My mom had five children using the calendar method as birth control because being Catholic you can't use any kind of birth control but that.
Sounds like a time in history when times were not easy. Perhaps, people didn't have the "rights" as we do now. Perhaps, to this generation, they believed they were doing the best thing. Hard to say. Kinda sounds like neither environment was ideal in our eyes today.
Well, they were born during the Great Depression...so I would say life wasn't easy during that period. I saw another documentary about them made in 1998 and someone that had been a fan of theirs back in the day remarked if they would've gotten the same attention if the depression wasn't happening. However, regarding money from the stuff they made...from what I know by watching stuff from former child stars during the 60s (like Sound of Music) and the 70s (Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory)...those adults said they never got any royalties for those movies they made. So, this isn't just something that affected the Quints. I think people (especially children) being entitled to royalities is something that happened maybe (and I'm guessing here) in the last twenty years. As much as I wanted to be an actress when I was a kid, I'm kinda relieved now that I wasn't. I know not every single child hood star suffers like the Quints did and others, but you don't get the experiences you need to have as a child when you are in the public eye a lot. And that will follow you until you're an adult unless you had someone take an interest in making sure you had that while also being in the public eye. That's my opinion of it though.
I love this story. It is really sad how these little girls were used to make a country rich. While the children were being exploited the father was fighting to regain custody of his girls. There was no commercial greed on the part of the family. They were simply trying to raise the money to fight a custody battle against the court.
Yes the girls were being exploited but not just by the government but also by their family. The father sexually abused them and sold their merchandise while they were still in a hospital later doing pretty much exactly what the government was doing when he got them back. Their mother who seemed to resent the girls verbally and physically abused them and their siblings were very hostile. Even though he was also exploiting them The Dr loved the girls and the girls have said that they regarded the Dr as their father and cried when he died one year after they were given back to their family because they could never go back to him.
DerickE You obviously don’t know this story and are going by one documentary. The quints said the father abused them sexually and mother abused them physically
I honestly felt sorry for the doctor. Yes he exploited them but so did the father it turns out. Right Or wrong the quints developed a relationship with him and grew to love him. I felt they should never have banned them from seeing one another. Maybe allowing visitation. This isn't a normal situation. There for wouldn't be normal, regardless.
If the quints had not been placed under sterile medical care, they would have died. AND, when they went back to the “family”, the father sexually abused them. So know all of the story before you criticize.
They already had FIVE children and went on to have 3 more after the quints. One of the children was 11 months hold. Have some empathy for Oliva; Elzire was bedridden for weeks after the kids birth. How would he look after 8 children, 6 of them infants? 5 of them premature infants.
this very very wrong both parent's farm would been good food children had good childhood Rob of precious time together never be replace no rightfully grounds to take babies away...disappointed doctor betrayed his calling and prices for you all trying justify his own greedy worldly lust he not humble at end dispointed even attorney won case wanted make money off them, seeing dad use at end felt sorry mom again she seen different husband now he use own children live off them how alone and how she just wanted be mom and love her babies be family be all togather see her husband doing outsiders did really hurt...dirty money made this way this good example of love of MONEY it more important human life girls be allowed live childhood of child, hate how greed destroys good.
The two that said they were the quints have been in other videos claiming to be other people. None but a few that have opened their eyes really know what the servicing quints looks like because all the lies and letting me alone while I grew up away from that and all the other stuff that followed. Including the other place the Iran people showed up at like Sharon Tate's once.
The 2 surviving sisters are Annette and Cecile. On May 28th 2017 , they have turned 83 yrs. old bless them.
What is so interesting is that they were identical. Also during the pregnancy a sixth baby was miscarried at three months
Shame on the Canadian government for allowing the exploitation to take place. Shame on the Canadian government for putting Cecile in such a cheap senior living home!
Sharon Clark where have I seen her before
@@sharoneuleenlammersgivenna7986 You are right Bridget. but Let me tell you We don't know the whole story.. Please stop bringing it up about them and included the Quints... IT is not our business to determined who s fault who is who why or what.. nothing. Only God knew all about them it is between God and them period.. Thank you.
to anyone on this comment panel: I sense that we all have NO rights to judge Oliva and Elzire for how they raised the Dionne Quints.. we have no rights to make any comments that we dont know the whole story and even the quints dont remember everything. so STOP discussing behind thier backs in either alive or dead..
Watch: the twinning reaction.
@@TheGaius59 I bring it up because I'm trying to set the record straight, unsteady of leaving the lies they made to cover the truth.
Why wasn't the story of the girls "alleged" sexual assault by their father not mentioned in this documentary?. The girls left their home at age 18 and never had much to do with their parents after that.
If you are going to tell the story, tell the whole story.
Because this documentary was made in 1994 and the sexual assault was first brought up in a book called "Family Secrets", written by Jean-Yves Soucy with the surviving Dionne Quints and published in 1996.
This is such a tragedy .
This would never happen now ... but yes it does in the 20th century just look at the fertility births
. When will we ever learn .
the govt had no right to take their children. makes me sick, it still happens today.
The Canadian Government has to take ultimate responsibility for the media craze that took over the lives of these little girls and the family.
A very sad situation. I have always thought that the Dionne family was treated very unfairly……big government at it’s worst.
Nope they abused those girls
Born into a family of 10 was usual, but born, with so many siblings at the same time.. not that usual.
Does anyone know if there any other existing in-depth documentaries about the Dionne quints online?
I remember seeing a documentary on PBS in 1980 about the Dionne quintuplets. Anywhere on TH-cam where I can see this documentary?
Just search up the Quints Documentary. I did a search and found all sorts of stuff about them.
this is from a long time ago lol but the movie “million dollar babies” is about them with just some fiction added
I've never heard of these 5 lil babies until today 😩 I find it sad. I can see why they would keep them in the hospital until they were in the clear...as far as health care goes as they were born premature but that is far as it should have gone
Why do they make it sound as though the parents were such victims? Yes, it is true one might feel in over their heads considering the circumstances but according to the girls, just like the Canadian government, the father treated them as objects to be used for profit and the mother seemed to resent them. Their father sold merchandise of them while they were in the hospital. Then fought to get them back so they could be given a "stable home" but that stable home included buying a very large house with the quint's money. Exposing them in public and abusing them verbally and sexually. The girls have said father or mother rarely came to see them when they lived away from home even though they were allowed visitation rights everyday. The Quints regarded Dr. Dafoe as their real father figure and were deeply grieved by his death shortly after they were returned to their parent's custody. "We cried knowing we could never go home to him again!" They said. The tragedy does not belong to the parents! It belongs to Emilie, Annette, Cecile, Yvonne and Marie.
I agree with you, Rachel. The miracle of the births of these five lovely girls is amazing. That being said, they should have been treated as normal children and they weren't. The living Dionne Quints wrote a letter to a mother who had just had quints warning them to keep their babies out of public life. The poor little Dionne Quints became a 'greed' project. I am glad however that the Doctor kept them all alive.
Rachel A.,
Well stated!!
What does the rest of the Dionne family have to say about it?
When this documentary was produced over 20 years ago I do not believe the 3 surviving sisters (now it is only 2) mentioned publicly that they were abused by their parents. It was not until the late '90s when their second book was published "Family Secrets". Also it didn’t mention in the documentary, John Nihmey is the co-author of the book “Time of their Lives” which was used as the basis for the telefilm about them. He sympathizes with the parents deeply and the mother apparently cooperated with him to write the book.
Another good book to read is "The Dionne Years' by Pierre Berton. That includes the rest of the family's perspective, an aspect of the story that is generally overlooked.
There were so many complications to the Dionnes being able to adequately care for the quints. They had a baby every one or two years- one just 11 months older than the quints and another born just a year after the quints, and two more after that-- 14 children altogether-. And this was during the Great Depression. Obviously, the government should have helped build a bigger house for the family and helped provide for childcare without putting the children on display.
The parents aren't suitable to even raise livestock...
My grandmother had 14 children starting in 1915 and up into 30s and raised them all being a dirt poor Roman Catholic immigrant from the Azores..
My mom had five children using the calendar method as birth control because being Catholic you can't use any kind of birth control but that.
Agreed
They shouldnt have had anymore
@megangreene3955why have so many children? Especially in hard times
Sounds like a time in history when times were not easy. Perhaps, people didn't have the "rights" as we do now. Perhaps, to this generation, they believed they were doing the best thing. Hard to say. Kinda sounds like neither environment was ideal in our eyes today.
Well, they were born during the Great Depression...so I would say life wasn't easy during that period. I saw another documentary about them made in 1998 and someone that had been a fan of theirs back in the day remarked if they would've gotten the same attention if the depression wasn't happening. However, regarding money from the stuff they made...from what I know by watching stuff from former child stars during the 60s (like Sound of Music) and the 70s (Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory)...those adults said they never got any royalties for those movies they made. So, this isn't just something that affected the Quints. I think people (especially children) being entitled to royalities is something that happened maybe (and I'm guessing here) in the last twenty years. As much as I wanted to be an actress when I was a kid, I'm kinda relieved now that I wasn't. I know not every single child hood star suffers like the Quints did and others, but you don't get the experiences you need to have as a child when you are in the public eye a lot. And that will follow you until you're an adult unless you had someone take an interest in making sure you had that while also being in the public eye. That's my opinion of it though.
I read the father abused them later
Frame frame 3:38 can you say " heaven's gate cult leader". Survived
He rounded up the ones Jim jones knew had seen him and knew what he looked like. There were two other places too.
The twinning reaction.
They lied about dates on this stuff.
I love this story. It is really sad how these little girls were used to make a country rich. While the children were being exploited the father was fighting to regain custody of his girls. There was no commercial greed on the part of the family. They were simply trying to raise the money to fight a custody battle against the court.
Yes the girls were being exploited but not just by the government but also by their family. The father sexually abused them and sold their merchandise while they were still in a hospital later doing pretty much exactly what the government was doing when he got them back. Their mother who seemed to resent the girls verbally and physically abused them and their siblings were very hostile. Even though he was also exploiting them The Dr loved the girls and the girls have said that they regarded the Dr as their father and cried when he died one year after they were given back to their family because they could never go back to him.
@@liona6770 Oh Go away. Your ignorance is annoying.
@@roder51 She's right. Your ignorance is astounding, though.
DerickE You obviously don’t know this story and are going by one documentary. The quints said the father abused them sexually and mother abused them physically
He abused them
Dafeo was flawed, but who isn't?
I honestly felt sorry for the doctor. Yes he exploited them but so did the father it turns out. Right Or wrong the quints developed a relationship with him and grew to love him. I felt they should never have banned them from seeing one another. Maybe allowing visitation. This isn't a normal situation. There for wouldn't be normal, regardless.
I agree. Doctor Dafoe never abused of them at least. The biological father yes.
And those babies lived because of the minute to minute care given by the doctor and his team of nurses under very difficult circumstances.
If the quints had not been placed under sterile medical care, they would have died. AND, when they went back to the “family”, the father sexually abused them. So know all of the story before you criticize.
Defoe was mental
They already had FIVE children and went on to have 3 more after the quints. One of the children was 11 months hold. Have some empathy for Oliva; Elzire was bedridden for weeks after the kids birth. How would he look after 8 children, 6 of them infants? 5 of them premature infants.
muggins quilts, I have great empathy for Oliva since Elzire should have left it in his pants after the quintuplets were born.
I have no empathy for the man who sexually abused them and the woman who verbally abused them according to the girls
@@liona6770 Please FUCK OFF.
this very very wrong both parent's farm would been good food children had good childhood Rob of precious time together never be replace no rightfully grounds to take babies away...disappointed doctor betrayed his calling and prices for you all trying justify his own greedy worldly lust he not humble at end dispointed even attorney
won case wanted make money off them, seeing dad use at end felt sorry mom again she seen different husband now he use own children live off them how alone and how she just wanted be mom and love her babies
be family be all togather see her husband doing outsiders did really hurt...dirty money made this way this good example of love of MONEY it more important human life girls be allowed live childhood of child, hate how greed destroys good.
jean beck the mother physically abused the quints
Frame 6:47 that is the bad man... Iran
The two that said they were the quints have been in other videos claiming to be other people. None but a few that have opened their eyes really know what the servicing quints looks like because all the lies and letting me alone while I grew up away from that and all the other stuff that followed. Including the other place the Iran people showed up at like Sharon Tate's once.
They have to keep their lies up because that is the only way they keep getting money not meant for them.