Edrum News: Roland SPD-SX PRO and RTOM BH Triggers

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  • @mastmusician
    @mastmusician 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Justin says it exactly right, there’s different bits of gear for different drummers. For me, as someone needing to use a small rig as possible, the SX Pro now combining the importing of samples and having a hi hat control to play it as a portable kit is the game changer I’ve been longing for. My current set up is exactly as Justin said with both the SX and Octapad to get both functions. It could potentially even replace the handsonic as it’s sensitive enough for hand triggering! Potentially merging the best bits of all 3 of those pieces of hardware into 1 was something I’d never thought Roland would do, but looks like I was wrong. For me, when considering all of that, the PRO name and the price tag is completely justified

  • @MesaMXR
    @MesaMXR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    And now for Yamaha to release a follow-up to the DTX Multi-12 with DTX-Pro sounds. I will pay whatever it costs the minute it's released.

    • @justasomeone8403
      @justasomeone8403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes a Yamaha DTX Multi-12 Pro and Pro-X would be great

    • @cresshead
      @cresshead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i have a yamaha multi 12, and whilst it's cool it's also an OLD design/tech spec
      would be nice to have sampling, sequencer, a big display etc.

  • @cresshead
    @cresshead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    looking forward to a Roland SPD-SX PRO VS alesis strike multi pad video :)

  • @SydneyDrums
    @SydneyDrums 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is great for professionals on stage.. It’s also a fantastic option for a smaller electronic kit being more portable for quick rehearsals and jamming. I’d love to see Justin make a kit with the possibilities of all of those extra inputs plus the hihat input.. & using the RTom heads & triggers 👍🏼

  • @marcotoscano4692
    @marcotoscano4692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SPD-SX has 2 effect control knobs and 4 quick effect select buttons, this PRO version only one Master FX knob and only one effect on / off button. Why?
    How do you quickly select the different effects?

  • @NigelMarston
    @NigelMarston 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact that the "pro" can support the HH foot switch is why it's on my Christmas list. I would like to be able to use the SPD-SX with a couple of foot switches for bass and HH for a super minimalist drumkit.
    Honestly that's the only reason I need the "pro" over the normal SPD-SX though. It's shame the normal one doesn't support the HH switch.
    I also looked at the Octapad but I really like the bar triggers that wrap over the top of the SPD-SX and I've limited space to mount a multipad on my kit - the Octapad is a little too wide.

  • @RulgertGhostalker
    @RulgertGhostalker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    for those exclusively playing gum rubber e-pads: ( i have made a break though years ago )
    get heavy hickory marching band sticks, about 0.720" diameter, and Cut them down to one foot in length ( leaving the tip end alone of course )
    the larger tip spreads out the energy and gets more rubber involved in the rebound; that, and the weight is similar to a rock stick, but with less pivotal inertia.....try it.

  • @Materialgirllive
    @Materialgirllive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You should do a comparison between the Alesis Strike Pad vs the Roland Pro. As I am sure the Roland will be twice the cost.

    • @BecomingProductions
      @BecomingProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Price announced and yep it does cost twice as much for basically the same thing.

    • @mastmusician
      @mastmusician 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@BecomingProductions with respect, if you think they do the same thing, you need to dive deeper into what the PRO does compared to the strike, and what it could potentially replace in Roland’s own pad line up.

    • @BecomingProductions
      @BecomingProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mastmusician I don't care about what it replaces in Roland's lineup. My point is comparing its features against the 4 year old Alesis Strike Multipad. I'm not seeing anything it does that the Alesis couldn't already do, what am I missing?

    • @mastmusician
      @mastmusician 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BecomingProductions I’d recommend watching Justin’s video comparing the SX to the Strikepad th-cam.com/video/rU6HcMRSGxw/w-d-xo.html there was a fair amount of difference already, then watch comparisons between the SX and SX PRO. Roland has a great one. You’ll see there is so much difference in functionality. Whether they make it worth for you and what you need is an entirely different conversation. But that’s how to answer your question of what the differences are.

    • @cadenceangel
      @cadenceangel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Pro s Hi-hat input alone is worth the price over the Multistrike. I bought the Alesis Strike Multipad to build a mini kit. And every external pad works perfectly except the hi-hat. Well, come on Alesis, the hi hat is an essential part of any drum kit. Ekit or not. Alesis lack of support of the Multpad stinks. I ll be selling my Strike Multipad.
      I am curious if loops n imported samples on the Pro can be slowed down or sped up live. Cause that, imo, was another miss on Alexis s part.

  • @rogerwhitsettdrummer2922
    @rogerwhitsettdrummer2922 ปีที่แล้ว

    I purchased the SPD-SX PRO sample pad. It is light years ahead of my SPD-SX se sample pad!!!

  • @louisvarga7282
    @louisvarga7282 ปีที่แล้ว

    Justin, buy an extra RTOM trigger and a splitter. Gaf tape it to the body of your snarre.......instant rim shot capability.

  • @salthedrummer1
    @salthedrummer1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man you're the best. Once again great job my friend...

  • @zakkmarks6040
    @zakkmarks6040 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I literally JUST bought an SPD-SX about a month ago. Smh. Should've known it would be just my luck! 😂

  • @tmesa
    @tmesa ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video Justin, SPD SX Pro and R tom triggers. Nice.

  • @filodrum1979
    @filodrum1979 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi there, do the triggers work on a regular drum head or different brand of mash heads, too?
    I would like to apply those ones on my Pearl traveller kit as well..
    Please let me know.
    Thank you

  • @TheLordcasio
    @TheLordcasio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You teased it with "it looks similar to..." but I would appreciate a one-to-one comparison to the Alesis Strike Pad Pro (or whatever it's called). Maybe save it until you get both units in for review. Thanks for teaching us so much about the drum scene.

    • @arbogast4950
      @arbogast4950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I own the Strike Multipad and it's okay but the hi hat support sucks, and there's no sample editing software app. I'll be selling my Alesis.

  • @jettsom
    @jettsom 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm building a hybrid kit (acoustic/edrum) and this is perfect right now as space saver!

  • @seanbrucemedia5695
    @seanbrucemedia5695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does the SPD SX Pro do proper sample time-stretching to adapt to tempo changes?

  • @hechogamermx4812
    @hechogamermx4812 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the news

  • @user-bo7np6rn4v
    @user-bo7np6rn4v 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your channel is awesome

  • @purevanillacookie9977
    @purevanillacookie9977 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Roland TD27KV2 and VAD504 and VAD507 are out
    Edit: and also the TD17KVX2 , TD17KV2 and VAD307

  • @wirenutz7869
    @wirenutz7869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rim trigger and snare trigger would vibrate together ?

  • @aaronsparks9012
    @aaronsparks9012 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how Roland just teased there audience with the newer SPD Pro and said not so fast guys were actually raising the bar with this machine and were just getting started and that it has way more technology than the Alesis but then again what will Alesis come out with next this is getting interesting really quickly nice review Justin thanks.🤪🤔

  • @Brendon_yup
    @Brendon_yup ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, this probably isn’t the place for this question but I was hoping you tell me what the output voltage on the Roland Vdrum PD-85 is? I’ve been using it to trigger my Moog DFAM (turning it into a oneshot pad that I can play with sticks) I believe the trigger tolerance on the DFAM is 10v..

  • @nonsuch
    @nonsuch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They just keep getting better and better as they should. Personally, for my intents and purposes... I still have the silver SPD-S on the side of my Roland kit and I really haven't felt the need to upgrade. I only have a few percussion sound sets I use.

  • @n9ne-
    @n9ne- ปีที่แล้ว

    regarding minute 4:01 , does the spdsx pro have dynamically sound reaction? So if u hit harder, the sound will be more "louder" ?

  • @NVTdrums
    @NVTdrums 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    08:10 watching a felt beater on a mesh head is like hearing nails on a chalkboard

  • @paradiddle16
    @paradiddle16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, yesterday I was thinking about when a new spd-sx was coming and now bam!!!! Thanks Justing for the heads up!

  • @budspencer7540
    @budspencer7540 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can the SPD-SX PRO create / play live loops like the Alesis strike multi pad or only play loops after you have recorded them?

  • @Kreln1221
    @Kreln1221 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Great review! As the SPD-30 Octapad is now getting a bit long in the tooth, it would be nice if Roland came out with an updated version, perhaps called the **_SPD-40,_** using more of the technology from the V-Drum line of modules, though I wouldn't expect V-Pad mesh designs for the internal triggers. They could even include four extra narrow bar triggers along the top ridge, like the three included with the SPD-S/SX sampler units, though it should then be called something like the **_Dodecapad,_** instead the **_Octapad,_** as it would then have twelve internal pads instead of only eight...* 🤔

  • @BrianSladek
    @BrianSladek 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Breakdown

  • @ArgonautDrums
    @ArgonautDrums 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those rtom triggers seem very similar to the pintech RS5 triggers; even priced the same. I like the rtoms quick clip on design better than the pintech's lug mount, but worry they'd fly off easier.

  • @renzovargas1025
    @renzovargas1025 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi my name is Renzo, I just bought the new Roland spd sx pro, but I don’t know how to connect the Roland dual RT 30 HR trigger, also I can’t find the full 202 page manuel in English , is only in Portuguese, Thanks for your time hope I can get it working soon

  • @tomattah_
    @tomattah_ ปีที่แล้ว

    04:09 - could you share what hardware (stands, clamps and pads) you are using to get this set-up, please?

  • @artnelsoncreative
    @artnelsoncreative 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do a tutorial integrating with something like the vad506 with the SP SX? Thanks.

  • @antwanfilikian128
    @antwanfilikian128 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This set up is a good problem solver, you can use it as a quiet practice Kit, or stick a Trigger and WALLAH You have a fairly good e Drum.

  • @nikolasantonitsis1449
    @nikolasantonitsis1449 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Justin I want to ask a question/video idea. Can you take let's say the Roland vad 301 or a acoustic like kit and change the heads, tune it . If you do these will it sound like a acoustic kit or you can try it on a snare. Will these changes make it sound acoustic or will it still be a electronic pad

  • @gdnrecords
    @gdnrecords 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Justin is so nice to see your videos honestly very helpful, This triggers you recommend I can feel are the perfecto solution for me I use an Acoustic Drum with Evans mesh heads but could you please recommend me a not to expensive Trigger controller to trigger the sounds of Toontrack's EzDrummer, hoping I could reach your advice and wishing you the best receive a BIG Hug from Mexico City, Best regards.

  • @Mutts1979
    @Mutts1979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So can you use those triggers on a mesh head on a base drum ?

  • @4davegr
    @4davegr ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve had a few of Roland’s trigger pads in the past spds-s , spd 30 ect. but had to sell them for one big reason. the zones within each pad were not sensitive evenly within the square. IE a direct center hit would always trigger, but a hit closer to an edge might not register a strike at all. ( my prehistoric Drumkat Dk10 with its FSR SENSORS will respond evenly from center to edge). Roland claims more accurate triggering on the new “pro” version. Has the uneven triggering problem finally been solved? thanks

  • @EasyHeat
    @EasyHeat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I typically play a 4 piece configuration (1x mounted tom, 1x floor tom, kick, & snare).
    Hypothetically, wouldn't it be possible to simply mount a second single trigger inside the snare and use dual mono to TRS splitter cable?
    Currently triggering EZD2/Slate/ML Drum via an Alesis midi trigger I/O.
    Thanks Justin!
    Cheers.

  • @MarSin
    @MarSin ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do review in comparison to Alesis module versus SPDX pro!

  • @4721able
    @4721able ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Justin,I have the Roland V-drums TD-50KV2set with the 14-inch 14 digital hi-hat.For a DAW I use Pro tools and Superior 3.I've not been able to use the Hat with all of it's capability do you know any one that has .I would gladly pay for anyones help with that issue.

  • @djashjones
    @djashjones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does this mean there is going to be a new Octapad soon? maybe with DW drum samples?

    • @mastmusician
      @mastmusician 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also wondered this! The PRO kind of makes it obsolete now in my opinion.

  • @KitCatStudio
    @KitCatStudio ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Justin Tnx for the update, always the best. I’ve been waiting a long time for Roland to make this machine for many reasons most of them are mentioned in the video. What did you mean by “many drummers were using the spd ax with a drum module”? I’ve been trying to hack this machine (the now old spd sx) in any way , mostly in terms of more outputs and so on. would love to hear a way around it that I haven’t seen before!

  • @justinknauer8137
    @justinknauer8137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does it send clock out over midi now?

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's a good question, and I don't know yet

  • @sica4873
    @sica4873 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those triggers work pretty well with the black hole. I’ve managed to use Roland triggers, but they keep falling off at some point. The BH triggers stay and never move. I’m still having issues with the kick drum, don’t know why. Still, a great product for the price of one Roland trigger.

  • @alex.girotto33
    @alex.girotto33 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you think about the new Millenium MPS 1000? Is it a better deal and can it compete with other brands?

  • @hishamdahud
    @hishamdahud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Looks great, but let's be honest: Roland is about 5 years late on this. The SPD-SX was in desperate need of an update for years... during which point, Alesis came out with the Strike MultiPad and... well, looks like Roland copied someone's homework. 😬

    • @delbraga66
      @delbraga66 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True

    • @mastmusician
      @mastmusician 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I find this argument hilarious to be honest. The strike pad copied the SPD and put more modern tech in it. And that’s exactly what Roland have now done to update their product. Who has really copied who? And the SX Pro will had so much more functionality than the Strike.
      There are other SX clones out there too, other companies knew what the industry standard was and the reasons why it was!
      People need to stop hating Roland just cus it’s the trend to.

    • @hishamdahud
      @hishamdahud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@mastmusician It's trendy to hate Roland? Silly, considering they make so much great stuff! I own a TD30-KV, TR8-S, SPD-SX, A88, among others. I'm by no means knocking Roland, and I'm sure this PRO model is going to be excellent, but let's remain objective. They've not innovated here as their marketing would suggest. They've iterated where the Alesis broke ground with the Strike MultiPad.
      I know this because I own BOTH a Strike MultiPad and SPD-SX. And the difference was jarring.
      At the end of the day, buy what makes you happy and helps you make great music... brand loyalty aside.

    • @hishamdahud
      @hishamdahud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Derek xPaPaDx Frampton I own both a SPD-SX and Strike MultiPad... and that Alesis has been holding up pretty damn well after tons of abuse!

    • @spasevrp
      @spasevrp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I totally agree. It doesn’t matter how late Roland arrives to the party they stun the market and audience each and every time! Can’t imagine what they will come up with now they have DW on board!

  • @lamWEBER
    @lamWEBER ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is the spd-sx (2011) still so expensive!?

  • @danieldeejjohndrums
    @danieldeejjohndrums ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you use Yamaha triggers with the spdsx pro ?

  • @jet7327
    @jet7327 ปีที่แล้ว

    After owning the SPD-SX and SPD-30 and the Alesis Strike MultiPad Percussion Pad, it looks like Roland is applying a "look " and function similar the the Alesis. The problem I have is it would have been better to incorporate the functions of the SPD-SX Pro and apply it to the layout of the SPD-30. I'd rather have the controls to the side of the kit , so you could play a full drumset on the SPD-30 without smacking the control panel, which is now , even larger on the Pro than the older SX. Oh well...

  • @matthewtickel845
    @matthewtickel845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still couldn't put the phones output on the front?

  • @alancalvitti
    @alancalvitti ปีที่แล้ว

    sx > external psu barrel dc - pro or prosumer?

  • @jimbotran214
    @jimbotran214 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi
    Can one change the tempo for the organized loop as desired

  • @Rhythmic1
    @Rhythmic1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man, I kinda wish I hadn't sold my RTom heads now. I loved them but couldn't figure out how to use them with triggers. But I agree with you. They need a 2 zone trigger for sure. But as far as the new SPD-SX Pro is concerned all I can say is WOW. Very cool. I'm going to use a hybrid setup with my new band when we start playing out in the next month or two and I could actually get a lot of use out of all those new features. The lack of inputs and outputs on the last model had been holding me back. I could definitely use a customizable metronome, and backing tracks and sound samples from our recordings would be great too. Unfortunately, I get lost in the tech side of all this great gear. Still I have a virtually unused Yamaha EAD but now I'm thinking maybe sell it and get this to replace it.

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what did you think about the feel of the Rtom pads? to me they felt a little thin and springy. But I haven't played one in awhile

    • @Rhythmic1
      @Rhythmic1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't played them for awhile myself so I don’t actually remember. I do however remember really liking them for the aforementioned reasons. But at the time I had never played on anything other than mylar heads (sometimes hybrid with ddrum and Roland triggers) and a little Yamaha DTX 532 I occasionally used for tracking and learning arrangements (still love the silicon head btw). So I really didn’t have anything to compare them to back then and was happy with what I got. It was a lot better than the tiny rubber tom pads and wobbly little kick pad on the Yamaha by leaps and bounds. They do have a tensioning system but I can’t remember if that did much either and again I was plenty happy with them anyway. It’s a long story but I didn’t use them too much because shortly after I got them I made a decision to go all in on electronic drums instead and pieced together what is essentially a TD-50KVX by starting with the digital pack Roland used to sell. That was the point at which I was trying to figure out if I could put triggers on them or not. But there was no information I could find on that so I went with a set of PD-125 pads and a converted bass drum instead. Afterwards they sat on my shelf until I sold them a year or two ago.

  • @CanadianTexaninLiguria
    @CanadianTexaninLiguria 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did the Alesis Strike Module disappear too?

  • @stevenmcnair1897
    @stevenmcnair1897 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHY THE **** IS IT STILL ONLY max 16-BIT? That's the main thing I wanted changed :( Backing tracks dont sound really great on good big systems. Try it, Put in your 24-to-16 bit track and hear the difference playing back from a computer then the (Old) SPDsx. maybe the converters are just bad, but maybe It needed 24 bit, its just annoying now when EVERYTHING else is.

  • @georgedeguerre
    @georgedeguerre ปีที่แล้ว

    Do the SPD-SX PRO's sounds (at least on the preset kits) react dynamically like the SPD-30 or are they still one shot samples?

    • @mastmusician
      @mastmusician ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’d like to know this too! On demos it seems to be the case, probably because they’re taking the same tech from drum modules synthesiser engines. So I live in hope! But it is just a guess. Sensitivity has definitely been improved if you can trigger/play with your hands.

    • @georgedeguerre
      @georgedeguerre ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mastmusician Yep, that's what I'm hoping too! I'm planning to use the SPD-SX PRO as my entire drum setup live and I need the dynamic response. Weird that this info isn't available from Roland.

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would bet money it's still one shot samples, a / b layers

    • @georgedeguerre
      @georgedeguerre ปีที่แล้ว

      @@65Drums Thanks for answering! Yeah, I've listened to a couple of demos now and I'm inclined to agree. Looks like I need an SPD-30 after all!

  • @user-bo7np6rn4v
    @user-bo7np6rn4v 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What do you think of nord pads

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like them, very solid. Just don't see them very often

  • @musiqsoundsproductions
    @musiqsoundsproductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the sequence option is now next level?
    Something that Kat and Yamaha did years ago.
    That is an Apple move right there 😂

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no one said it was a new feature lol, just new to this product line that didn't focus on that before. Kat doesn't have sample import at all, they are only midi controllers. And Yamaha has a tinny tinny built in memory allotment. Though I love that they have more zones and offer a cheaper overall package

  • @ironblast5
    @ironblast5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    32 gigs is not very large if you'd want run backing tracks I used up 16 gigs on my iPad doing 13 songs if I wanted to change our setlist I had to wipe it and upload the new tracks

  • @16LiveRecords
    @16LiveRecords 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If the sx pro built quality of IO port is same as sx, so it's expensive crap. I am dissapointed for years by fixing and replacing IO plugs day before show. Especialy for headphones 😤

  • @nickfowler8031
    @nickfowler8031 ปีที่แล้ว

    Justin there’s new e drums from Roland go check it out and make another edrum news

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  ปีที่แล้ว

      Took me a bit, but I got the video done and it's live now :)

    • @nickfowler8031
      @nickfowler8031 ปีที่แล้ว

      great at less you got it

  • @drewmadere9935
    @drewmadere9935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Triggering gate

  • @arbogast4950
    @arbogast4950 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone want my Strike Multipad? 🤣

  • @awskamal1458
    @awskamal1458 ปีที่แล้ว

    6 pads 😅😂 good luck 😅

  • @chaelperk
    @chaelperk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    th-cam.com/video/fFkcyLz60S8/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
    Aula independência e ritmos

  • @garylazo7311
    @garylazo7311 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like your excluding amateur drum players its a synth drum kit my 10 yr old can play it mr professional Ha Ha

  • @sonidojamon
    @sonidojamon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Come on!! 16 bits? REALLY? FACEPALM

  • @jaidamodar9952
    @jaidamodar9952 ปีที่แล้ว

    It doesn't have Midi pattern maker like HPD 15 its flop investment bro |-:'(

  • @jackhammer_au9961
    @jackhammer_au9961 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Justin! Great review! Gonna start saving up coin for this. This is a massive improvement over the previous SPD SX.