The Gay Science #1: What Advances the Species (Preface, I.1 - I.9)
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- A complete analysis of The Gay Science begins today with an examination of the preface and a breakdown of the beginning of book I, along with some brief remarks on the background of the work and its context within Nietzsche's broader canon.
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Nietzsches skull shape is verily industrious, like an art deco locomotive
Love this comment.
Very cool to see you here :D
You are my favorite person on the planet today! Art deco locomotive...😂🙃☺️
I always thought I had the facial structure of a racecar so it's good to know I'm not the only weirdo.
His skull even looks like it hurt..
Let's goooo!
I literally searched for this yesterday, then remembered it didn't exist yet 🤔 But here we are! Thanks Keegan!
"Well you'll like this one, it's called the Gay Science..."
"I'm sorry, the _what_ science?"
"Well if the title doesn't appeal to you, perhaps you should start with his autobiography..."
"Alright then, what's that called?"
"On second thought, never mind..."
Gay as in Joyful, if the 21st century sexual use of the word triggers you.
@@willchristie2650 Humour dude, he is doing that silly little thing called humour.
This episode is the most golden one yet. No wonder why it’s called the gay science, it’s like basking in sunshine
Me: - Reading Beyond Good and Evil with the podcast commentary was a taxing and challenging task, which was as stressfull as enlightening and fulfilling. Now it is finally time to take some rest and move away from Nietzsche for a while to get things settled.
Opens up youtube: - Oh no...
Never let yourself become weary my friend! Come, take my hand! It’s time for another adventure!
Just in time for work as my holidays are over …. Thanks a lot
Saturday afternoon practicing my natural skincare rituals outside on my porch & listening. Absolutely perfect. Thank you, Sir.
Ordering the english translation of the gay science instantly!! Can't wait to follow along this one because I really enjoyed your BG&E series.
Trying to turn Nietzsche's philosophy into a foundation for a fictional story, it's been a lot of fun :)
Your videos are among my favorites that help me play with his ideas in good faith. Thanks for another great meal 😊
Wishing you luck! Hard to compel modern audiences without a Christian morality play. You have to be subversive!
I think Dostoyevsky’s Crime and Punishment is an attack on the idea of the Übermensh or at least the extra moral individual
ahhh, great. one of my absolute favorite books by Nietzsche. looking forward to read it again (in German) with you!
Excellent, I welcome any insights about the translation vs original as we go forward
@@untimelyreflections With pleasure I'll share any relevant findings!
A few minutes in I noticed a detail which someone might find interesting: Nietzsche often, certainly throughout the Preface, uses the word "Leib" instead of "Körper". While both might be synonyms for the english "body" at first glance, especially "Leib" has a few more connotations that could add some associative nuance to his idea of analyzing ones Philosophy under the aspect of the underlying "leibliche Beschaffenheit" (the condition of the body).
First, it shares the same etymological root as "Leben" (and thus "Life"). This already emphasizes the connection between our physiological condition and (our view of/quality of) Life.
Furthermore "Leib" has been a key-term in German theological and philosophical discourse for quite some time. Theologians use the "Leib" to speak of the "beseelten Körper", the "animated/ensouled body", in contrast to the Körper/corpus as the mere unity of (anatomical, literary..) parts.
Similar thing for Philosophy, mainly discourses about the Philosophy of the Mind or Phenomenology, which speak of "Leiblichkeit" (corporality?) as the conscious experience of subjective sensations, emotions, thoughts etc. "within" that biological body i.e. the body as the big unifiying net of those.
"Einen Körper hat man, während man ein Leib ist." is one saying to underline the semantic difference: "You own a Körper, while you ARE a Leib".
Too tired to expand more but you get the idea!
@@berizont This is really interesting
I found myself kinda prejudiced to your reading of Nietzsche at first; very much that "who does this guy think he is" take, but then I remembered that all of this is a conversation of thoughts. So it would be an injustice to read and translate the works and not expand upon this or that. I like what you're bringing to the table. Keep making videos. Who tf am I to expect any different?
immortalKEEG concedes this constantly (how constantly he concedes this very point you make!!)... throughout his podcast proper... consume... cogitate... ferment... and distill yourself... get pickled off the hardcore presto Nietzschean sh*t! (lol).
YESSS!!!Was waiting for this one
Yesss were so back
And yet the apostrophes remain absent.
@@Vapourwear not the punctuation police in a TH-cam comment section 🤦♂️
@@pravail7214 .…you missed the period, too.
Yes! My favorite of Nietzsche's books. His writings on music, poetry and art are great but they go by largely overlooked in favor of the übermensch or something. He decried systematizing but many have tried to make systems out of his works. The Gay Science is perhaps his least systematized work and Beyond Good and Evil, including with that the Genealogy, was his most clear attempt at a sort of system.
Can’t believe it’s the new season already
We’re doing Gay Science for several episodes before transitioning into regular season five episodes, but we’ll move into that after book II then return to TGS throughout the season
I haven't read this one in its entirety! Perfect timing.
This Upload made my week !
The mention of Nick Land reminded me of a great passage from Uncle Arthur:
“And to this world, to this scene of tormented and agonised beings, who only continue to exist by devouring each other, in which, therefore, every ravenous beast is the living grave of thousands of others, and its self-maintenance is a chain of painful deaths; and in which the capacity for feeling pain increases with knowledge, and therefore reaches its highest degree in man, a degree which is the higher the more intelligent the man is; to this world it has been sought to apply the system of optimism, and demonstrate to us that it is the best of all possible worlds. The absurdity is glaring.”
The World as Will and Representation, Volume I
Powerful quote from Arty!
Do you plan on doing a Thus Spoke Zarathustra breakdown similar to ur BGE and BOT series?
One day
That would be beautiful
I'm so hyped for this series
1:48:00 - “Experienceable” is TOTALLY a real word, Keegan!
I’ve been waiting for this for a long time.
Been waiting for this
What is the difference between depth of thinking and superficiality of thinking? It is only a difference in how close one approaches the mirror. The further one steps the deeper the reflection appears.
Thank you friend! Love these podcasts.
Great presentation as always.
Nietzsche frequently doesn't distinguish between natural selection and evolution and cultural evolution. He seems to mix La Marc and Darwin evolution. Also biologists today do not hold that evolution is "ever onward upwards", in a progressive linear direction that Nietzsche uses as his model. Very often evolution is a red queen position of going faster to stay still. Particular traits are not "good" or "bad" in and of themselves but only in being adaptive or maladaptive to the particular environmental context. The same trait can be adaptive in one context and maladaptive in another. Another assumption Nietzsche makes is that wild animals are unhappy. They may face danger and struggle but they are happier than their cousins in zoos with no predators, constant food on hand and veterinary care on hand. Too much safety can be ruinous to mental health. Nietzsche almost gets this when he talks of the value of struggle. I believe many of today's mental problems are because we have built for ourselves something like a human zoo.
Have you done an episode on Nietzsche and perspectivism more broadly?
Hell yeah go back and watch bros stuff
@@davidscarafone5995 do you know which episode?
The beginning of the beyond good and evil playlist- the unconscious involuntary memoir
Yes! I am so excited!
Very much excited ❤
Hi Keegan, can you please confirm which translation you're using. I want to work through the book with you but don't want to start the podcast until I get a copy. Many thanks.
Walter Kaufmann
I looked at the German word frohlich. Does anyone else think is looks like frolicking? That reminds me of the meaning if gay as joy not homosexual.
Do you think that Nietzsche would’ve considered himself a transhumanist to a certain degree if he were alive today?
Especially referring to the notion that the meaning of life is to bring forth something stronger
So ein Fröhliche Zeit!
Fantastic content. Do you do group lessons?
You’re in one right now
@untimelyreflections Sorry, I meant Q and A questions from Twitch or youtube live or something?
THAT is where I got the idea for the great cosmic joke and the eternal sadness!
I'm reading this book for the first time, so seeing this video is awesome as hell, thanks for your work!
18:36 Book One
I love the gays
"Nobody loves the gays more than me"
Mark Normand, that you?
@@raucousriley143 the great gays into the abyss
@@svalbard01 I thought it was Trump except about women instead of the gays, haha I don't remember exactly
The Flintstones have entered the chat
We backkk
Nietzsche remark: 5:48
epic, this is Nietzsche's most Frolicking philosophy!
We’re frolicking out of the decaying society with this one
Serious question: why did the early humans have to leave the forest and go into the savanna again? Pretty sure the forest is better.
How early are u talking? Last I heard the hypothesis for why pre-homo apes had to evolve to fit savannahs is because the Gibraltar mountain collapsed, flooding the entire Mediterranean. This lowered the world's sea level, shifting the weather for the entire earth, turning the jungles apes thrived in into savannahs.
Answered your own question. More competition in the arbor.
The view is better.
Yo Salts what's your take on E.M. Cioran?
A test of one’s emotional and mental fortitude.
At the end you say that science never turned its hand to the question of values, but wouldn't that be covered by evolutionary psychology? I understand that there's some controversy with that field :^)
Arguably you’re correct, and arguably Nietzsche deserves some credit as one of the forerunners of psychology.
So excited 🎉
Thank you
Al go rhythm 🥁 & Thx a lot 🙏🏻
Keep going bro 🗿🙌
I hate to oversimplify neitzche as i am of average intelligence at best BUT......were the bulk of his ideas and philisophy the result of acute sexual frustration ??? just curious..back to my rubiks cube :(
Good video
I waited to see if it was really called the Gay Science
Your claim: "N believes there is a meaning to existence, a purpose to it in absentia of god or metaphysics. We must look to the purpose that nature has given our existence, and that is, to create better stronger offspring" ??!.. and "The species is primary" ??-- Will to Power, via Klossowski-Deleuze, is about the vying of primordial forces far predating humans or any animal speciation; and the overman, when seen through this lens, is about transformation which breaks down notions of leonine strong individuality or predatory subjective voluntarism, ultimately, becoming a child again, which is all about being fluid-like, orientated toward the aleatory, and unconcerned with the Purpose or Meaning of nature (which is classical metaphysics talk), let alone anything predatory: it has zero to do with breeding better children.. How is this not neoreactionary?
It’s not “my claim”, it’s just an honest reading of Nietzsche. If you don’t like it, go somewhere else.
I’ve also done videos on Deleuze and will talk about Klossowski next season. I give their interpretations a fair hearing.
It’s not neoreactionary because Nietzsche is not interested in going back to anything, he doesn’t think going back is possible, he had no regard for states, for “tradition”, for races or collectives of any kind. As Deleuze rightly says these are just forms of reactivity, a futile attempt to preserve something in a world of flux. There is no telos or final state for life to reach. That being said, life is always moving, it is either ascending or descending, there is no stasis. As a particular form of life, humanity is either becoming stronger or becoming weaker. You can interpret that in the Deleuzian sense if you like: “create stronger offspring” can well mean to create the kind of person free from resentment and the bad conscience. But if you read these passages where Nietzsche is very clear about his aims and think he doesn’t make arguments concerning the fate of the species as a whole, you’re just cherrypicking and being willfully ignorant, choosing get Nietzsche through Deleuze rather than the text itself.
o... my... f*cking... God... i knew it!!... i began rereading this very blasphemous text not but a few months ago... happily, i am a painfully slow reader... immortalKEEG... i am humbled in the presence of your presto Nietzschean philosophical ambition... puissant, monsieur Keeg... most puissant... (YOU ARE APPRECIATED!!!!)
it's KEEG-A-LICIOUS content to copiously consume!! (lololo?).
Well done🦈🐫
Like you don't know whay advances your own species 😅
Let's go
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He knew before anyone else that it's all fake and gay science 💯
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On your point about the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) , Allah as we know it was a pagan god in ancient times. Nietzsche alludes to this in one of his aphorism when he says something to the effect “New epochs emerge when old devils are baptised as gods”
Nietzsche was a hippie
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sorry i was on drugs when i posted that. Embarrassing
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Gay Science? Isnt that something else? You have at least 5 other English words for German „fröhlich“ to choose from. I would recommend The Cheerfull Science. My oh my, gay science, lol.
Didn’t watch, sounds gay
Only Costin vlad Alamariu interpreted Nietzsche rightly. thats it.
oh thats wonderful!
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