I forgot to mention something - I got WAY more messages from guys on apps in Dallas than I'm used to in other cities. I remember this happening back in 2021, too. I'm not sure why...I do remember one guy in Dallas back in 2021 telling me that it's because guys who look like me (Mediterranean, etc) don't really exist in Dallas, so that novelty factor works in my favor. Not sure if that's why, as Mediterranean guys don't really populate American cities in general, but who knows!
True, I would suppose (even if I do not live in Texas myself, but I do have a German step-grandmother who, upon migrating from Thuringia to the U. S. of A. did so as an indentured servant on a Texas plantation, from the era (more or less) of the years leading into World War One. I like the state and would commend to you Waco, a city of such sweet, refined, and friendly people, as I discovered years ago. (It's fairly close to Fort Worth and has the "Harvard of the South", Baylor University, a truly great American university, even if it does affiliate with the (shudder!) Southern Baptist Church.
I miss the bars on Fitzhugh. I left Dallas in 2017 and there used to be up to 3 bars on Fitzhugh that were fun in different ways. Crews Inn aka BJ's NXS, Zippers, and The Hideaway (Piano Bar). Gentrification and Covid stripped that area of all those bars. The last was Zippers which was forced to close during the pandemic lockdown when the owner of the property wouldn't work with the Zippers management, so they were forced to close. I got tired Cedar Springs and all the touristy people and being taken over by young straight people mostly from SMU. We never had violence before that happened in that area. My past has been erased by upscale eateries for snobs. Oaklawn used to be like that and between Maple Ave and Cedar Springs a lot of upscale people moved in and then older apartments were demolished (that were affordable). Then they build higher end complexes that only upper-class people could afford.
6th Street in Austin is called "Dirty 6th" by the locals. It's where out-of-towners come to drink, cause trouble (the occasional deadly shooting), and piss and puke on the street. There never has been a substantial gay bar on 6th Street. I attended Saint Mark's School in Dallas, and learned from my grandfather that Oak Lawn was where small-town Texas people lived back in the earlier part of the 20th century. My grandfather was at Baylor Dental College, and he and my grandmother would go to tea dances at the Melrose Hotel (live orchestra) on Saturday afternoons. The area later became crusty, then gay folks moved in and revived it before moving onward to Oak Cliff. Thanks for a very interesting video!
Kevin, I am not so surprised that those dudes in Dallas recognised you. For one thing, you really are a beautiful guy to behold. One of the secrets of your personal beauty is what used to be called "high colouring". Your complexion is great and your dark brown hair and facial hair contrast with it notably. Your features are bold, classic, and chiselled, all very nice to sport among gays, you little devil. It's nice to see someone of your physical type is rather furry, too, which seems distinctive, too, given your body type. Yeah, I always know who you are at a lightning flash glimpse of your glorioius self!
Yeah, "high colouring" is an old expression. It was used as a descriptive or complimentary phrase still a lot when I was younger (i.e., in the 1940s and 1950s) and, even if it is now old-fashioned and increasingly less known, it still is so evocative of to what it refers, that I like to use that phrase when it is appropriate. @@KevenTalks
Since the 50s Dallas has been a conservative buttoned-down city - Kennedy was there to try to drum up some support. Austin has lots of state government meaning lots of young lobbyists and legislative aides (legislators only show up occasionally) and by UT alums and students, especially grad students. Of course, they’re different.
It's interesting that Austin is the state capital of Texas - I'd assume that it would be more conservative as a result - and yet it's the opposite! But the reasons why that you expressed make sense.
This is a stereotype of Dallas. It’s actually quite diverse and has vibrant communities across the metro. So saying it’s still a conservative buttoned down city is very outdated. Austin, while young and more liberal leaning, is the only major city in Texas that has a majority white population. Look it up, even Fort Worth is more diverse.
Thanks for this video!! I love how you vividly describe your experiences. I have a question about the Roundup - did you really see “square dancing “ ? … or just “country 2 stepping” ?
Lol good memory!! I made a small profit - I think it was $200 or so. I was hoping it would be a much bigger jump - but in retrospect, investing in Warner Bros (the film production company) would have made more sense... the film's success didn't necessarily mean more kids would buy Barbies...
I am from the midwest. I like the people here more than other places ive gone. I like visiting other places, but living somewhere else ive learned that culture differences in different regions of the united states is a real thing. I like people who are nicer. I think its exciting to go to places that are more lively and i live in the suburbs outside of Detroit. We still have lots of cultures here. I dont like places where people are very all about themselves. I dont like rudeness or people who are not considerate. Sometimes i fantasize about living in a small town where my neighbors are close and look out for eachother, but i also like the excitement of a bigger town. So, i like the best of both worlds. I just want people to care about eachother.
Totally. I think I've lived in more "surface" cities for so long that it's always refreshing to me to remember that people are so much nicer and more "traditional" in smaller cities, lol.
@@KevenTalks That's a respectable height too. I'm 6'4" and expected I'd marry a short king (5'5" ish). I was wrong. My husband is 6'2", but he has other things going for him.
I agree with you. I don’t think they would stimulate me enough either long term. They are more spread out if I remember correctly and feel like could get in a rut after a while
There is no doubt that larger cities have historically been more hospitable to gays, but I think that was more a function of "strength in numbers." In post--war America, especially in the counter culture days of the 60s and 70s gays would come out and flock to places where they could find "community." Now, in post-SSM America, I think people generally are more accepting and gays feel they can find "community" where they are. I don't think the South or any Red State is immune to that. I suspect in 20 years' time most Americans will have a matter-of-fact blase attitude about it. I've read stories lamenting the loss of gay bars in some cities. They aren't needed as gays feel more comfortable in more bars, and apps and changing attitudes make meeting each other easier outside of gay bars. When I lived in DC the alternative newspaper ran an article exploring whether the "gentification" of gayborhoods by straights and those with young families was a measure of success or decline. I'm in the success camp. The times they are a-changin'.
Great analysis! Thanks for sharing. I agree that the gentrification in a sense of gay areas is a double-edged sword - but overall, the wins outweigh the losses.
You described both cities so well. When visiting Dallas form the mid-west, the Round-up was always the place to visit. Good authentic people and conversation, one guy even pulled me out to the dance floor and taught me a few steps. Austin is more diverse, lively, and college feel. Like you, my days of going out drinking are far and few between. I'm looking for more a seasoned worldly man than what is actually found in out in bars. In Austin, you are more than liking to go out with a group of friends and not really there to be picked up for the night. I found it clickish and didn't really enjoy the partying atmosphere and drunkenness'. I would like to see how the Montrose gayborhood area in Houston differs. Another great bar to visit is Charlie's (country & western feel) is in Las Vegas and Phoenix.
I'll have to check out Charlie's one day! Never been to Phoenix, and only been to Vegas once but didn't go to any gay bars. As for Houston...I made a video there too, but honestly you can pass 😅For me, Houston is the lamest out the Texan major cities: th-cam.com/video/ffyYA8voOos/w-d-xo.html
Was not impressed with 6th street in Austin. New Orleans is way more vibrant and interesting but still...it's not a place I'd want to live. Texas in general is a miserable handmaiden place. The people that move there for work and low taxes are suckers but the reality is Texas is the future. All of America will end up like Texas after a few more republican administrations.
I still had my physical mobility when I was in New Orleans (for a conference) in the late 1990s. So, I was able to do a lot of walking, and I really covered all of Central N.O. and more on foot. The variety and wealth of interest in the various neighbourhoods is awesome: what a charming and lovely place. It's not just about Bourbon Street and that part of N.O.; the entire city (before the flooding, at least) is (or was) so interesting.
NOLA is full of dense, fascinating history - I'm particularly enamored by the folklore of Creole Louisiana...unfortunately, it's a very different place today. For me, it feels like the American South version of Las Vegas nowadays...@@geraldparker8125
Those terrible floods in the early 2000s must have washed away a lot of charm along with all of the other damage. One can remember N.O. as it had been. @@KevenTalks
Well, there is another Southern treasure to discover (at least one): Macon, Georgia. This is one of the few important places that preserves Antebellum Southern architecture in abundance, because Gen. Sherman, in his famous march of huge destruction through the South, did not include Macon on his warrior itinerary. Macon is a treasureload of beauty and pre-War Between the States charm. There is so much Antebellum heritage, that even much of what one could call slums is included in it. The city is blessedly free of tourism phoniness, too, and the massive presence of cherry trees makes the air fragrant and heady even in hot and humid weather. Lovely place! @@KevenTalks
I forgot to mention something - I got WAY more messages from guys on apps in Dallas than I'm used to in other cities. I remember this happening back in 2021, too. I'm not sure why...I do remember one guy in Dallas back in 2021 telling me that it's because guys who look like me (Mediterranean, etc) don't really exist in Dallas, so that novelty factor works in my favor. Not sure if that's why, as Mediterranean guys don't really populate American cities in general, but who knows!
True, I would suppose (even if I do not live in Texas myself, but I do have a German step-grandmother who, upon migrating from Thuringia to the U. S. of A. did so as an indentured servant on a Texas plantation, from the era (more or less) of the years leading into World War One. I like the state and would commend to you Waco, a city of such sweet, refined, and friendly people, as I discovered years ago. (It's fairly close to Fort Worth and has the "Harvard of the South", Baylor University, a truly great American university, even if it does affiliate with the (shudder!) Southern Baptist Church.
100%. I actually look quite similar to you and experienced this same thing
I miss the bars on Fitzhugh. I left Dallas in 2017 and there used to be up to 3 bars on Fitzhugh that were fun in different ways. Crews Inn aka BJ's NXS, Zippers, and The Hideaway (Piano Bar). Gentrification and Covid stripped that area of all those bars. The last was Zippers which was forced to close during the pandemic lockdown when the owner of the property wouldn't work with the Zippers management, so they were forced to close. I got tired Cedar Springs and all the touristy people and being taken over by young straight people mostly from SMU. We never had violence before that happened in that area. My past has been erased by upscale eateries for snobs. Oaklawn used to be like that and between Maple Ave and Cedar Springs a lot of upscale people moved in and then older apartments were demolished (that were affordable). Then they build higher end complexes that only upper-class people could afford.
6th Street in Austin is called "Dirty 6th" by the locals. It's where out-of-towners come to drink, cause trouble (the occasional deadly shooting), and piss and puke on the street. There never has been a substantial gay bar on 6th Street. I attended Saint Mark's School in Dallas, and learned from my grandfather that Oak Lawn was where small-town Texas people lived back in the earlier part of the 20th century. My grandfather was at Baylor Dental College, and he and my grandmother would go to tea dances at the Melrose Hotel (live orchestra) on Saturday afternoons. The area later became crusty, then gay folks moved in and revived it before moving onward to Oak Cliff. Thanks for a very interesting video!
Thank you for sharing this context & thank you for watching!
Kevin, I am not so surprised that those dudes in Dallas recognised you. For one thing, you really are a beautiful guy to behold. One of the secrets of your personal beauty is what used to be called "high colouring". Your complexion is great and your dark brown hair and facial hair contrast with it notably. Your features are bold, classic, and chiselled, all very nice to sport among gays, you little devil. It's nice to see someone of your physical type is rather furry, too, which seems distinctive, too, given your body type. Yeah, I always know who you are at a lightning flash glimpse of your glorioius self!
"high colouring" lol you're teaching me new things! Thanks so much 🥰🙏
Yeah, "high colouring" is an old expression. It was used as a descriptive or complimentary phrase still a lot when I was younger (i.e., in the 1940s and 1950s) and, even if it is now old-fashioned and increasingly less known, it still is so evocative of to what it refers, that I like to use that phrase when it is appropriate. @@KevenTalks
To my eyes, you do look Mediterranean, just short enough of pallour to have the skin tone needed, with a face that looks so very Greek. @@KevenTalks
Actually, "high colour" is the more usual way to use the expression for what I mentioned as 'high colouring'". @@KevenTalks
Since the 50s Dallas has been a conservative buttoned-down city - Kennedy was there to try to drum up some support. Austin has lots of state government meaning lots of young lobbyists and legislative aides (legislators only show up occasionally) and by UT alums and students, especially grad students. Of course, they’re different.
It's interesting that Austin is the state capital of Texas - I'd assume that it would be more conservative as a result - and yet it's the opposite! But the reasons why that you expressed make sense.
This is a stereotype of Dallas. It’s actually quite diverse and has vibrant communities across the metro. So saying it’s still a conservative buttoned down city is very outdated. Austin, while young and more liberal leaning, is the only major city in Texas that has a majority white population. Look it up, even Fort Worth is more diverse.
Thanks for this video!! I love how you vividly describe your experiences. I have a question about the Roundup - did you really see “square dancing “ ? … or just “country 2 stepping” ?
Thanks for watching! Lol it's whatever you'd call this :)
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@@KevenTalks “line dancing”
Cool vid. I'm still very curious about how your Mattel stocks faired in the wake of the Barbie movie's success. Please fill us in!
Lol good memory!! I made a small profit - I think it was $200 or so.
I was hoping it would be a much bigger jump - but in retrospect, investing in Warner Bros (the film production company) would have made more sense... the film's success didn't necessarily mean more kids would buy Barbies...
Ah, I see. Glad to hear it!
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I am from the midwest. I like the people here more than other places ive gone. I like visiting other places, but living somewhere else ive learned that culture differences in different regions of the united states is a real thing. I like people who are nicer. I think its exciting to go to places that are more lively and i live in the suburbs outside of Detroit. We still have lots of cultures here. I dont like places where people are very all about themselves. I dont like rudeness or people who are not considerate. Sometimes i fantasize about living in a small town where my neighbors are close and look out for eachother, but i also like the excitement of a bigger town. So, i like the best of both worlds. I just want people to care about eachother.
Totally. I think I've lived in more "surface" cities for so long that it's always refreshing to me to remember that people are so much nicer and more "traditional" in smaller cities, lol.
Totally...that's the catch for sure@gamerboyz2024
@gamerboyz2024 Yeah. That's why I said fantasize. Lol
Keven, you mentioned tall guys in Dallas. How tall are you? It's giving.... 5'5" energy.
lol I'm 5'9!
@@KevenTalks That's a respectable height too. I'm 6'4" and expected I'd marry a short king (5'5" ish). I was wrong. My husband is 6'2", but he has other things going for him.
@@truerthanyouknow9456 "short king" lol love that phrase!
Interesting video, do you think you could be happy living in these Texas cities or only to visit? Do you think you’re just an east coast big city guy?
I don't think these 2 cities would stimulate me enough to live there honestly! What about you?
I agree with you. I don’t think they would stimulate me enough either long term. They are more spread out if I remember correctly and feel like could get in a rut after a while
Totally. And yes Texas, much like California, is super sprawled out. There's both pros and cons too that of course!@@jacobhughes8056
There is no doubt that larger cities have historically been more hospitable to gays, but I think that was more a function of "strength in numbers." In post--war America, especially in the counter culture days of the 60s and 70s gays would come out and flock to places where they could find "community." Now, in post-SSM America, I think people generally are more accepting and gays feel they can find "community" where they are. I don't think the South or any Red State is immune to that. I suspect in 20 years' time most Americans will have a matter-of-fact blase attitude about it.
I've read stories lamenting the loss of gay bars in some cities. They aren't needed as gays feel more comfortable in more bars, and apps and changing attitudes make meeting each other easier outside of gay bars. When I lived in DC the alternative newspaper ran an article exploring whether the "gentification" of gayborhoods by straights and those with young families was a measure of success or decline. I'm in the success camp. The times they are a-changin'.
Great analysis! Thanks for sharing. I agree that the gentrification in a sense of gay areas is a double-edged sword - but overall, the wins outweigh the losses.
I live in West Hollywood…people know your channel here in LA 😘
Lol do they?!??
@@KevenTalks yes…I follow you on IG and while out in WeHo some friends saw your IG story on my phone and said “Omg I follow Keven Talks too”👍🏽
Oh my goodness!! 😲@@kr6033
You look like the type that would like Austin..
lol not sure what that means
@@KevenTalkshe thinks ur a power bottom lol 😂
You described both cities so well. When visiting Dallas form the mid-west, the Round-up was always the place to visit. Good authentic people and conversation, one guy even pulled me out to the dance floor and taught me a few steps. Austin is more diverse, lively, and college feel. Like you, my days of going out drinking are far and few between. I'm looking for more a seasoned worldly man than what is actually found in out in bars. In Austin, you are more than liking to go out with a group of friends and not really there to be picked up for the night. I found it clickish and didn't really enjoy the partying atmosphere and drunkenness'. I would like to see how the Montrose gayborhood area in Houston differs. Another great bar to visit is Charlie's (country & western feel) is in Las Vegas and Phoenix.
I'll have to check out Charlie's one day! Never been to Phoenix, and only been to Vegas once but didn't go to any gay bars. As for Houston...I made a video there too, but honestly you can pass 😅For me, Houston is the lamest out the Texan major cities:
th-cam.com/video/ffyYA8voOos/w-d-xo.html
Thanks, I went and back and found your Houston video and will pass. Can't wait to see your next trip. @@KevenTalks
Stay tuned! Thanks for watching! 🤓@@kberg5055
Austin is NOT more diverse than Dallas. Not even close.
Was not impressed with 6th street in Austin. New Orleans is way more vibrant and interesting but still...it's not a place I'd want to live. Texas in general is a miserable handmaiden place. The people that move there for work and low taxes are suckers but the reality is Texas is the future. All of America will end up like Texas after a few more republican administrations.
We have similar feelings lol
I still had my physical mobility when I was in New Orleans (for a conference) in the late 1990s. So, I was able to do a lot of walking, and I really covered all of Central N.O. and more on foot. The variety and wealth of interest in the various neighbourhoods is awesome: what a charming and lovely place. It's not just about Bourbon Street and that part of N.O.; the entire city (before the flooding, at least) is (or was) so interesting.
NOLA is full of dense, fascinating history - I'm particularly enamored by the folklore of Creole Louisiana...unfortunately, it's a very different place today. For me, it feels like the American South version of Las Vegas nowadays...@@geraldparker8125
Those terrible floods in the early 2000s must have washed away a lot of charm along with all of the other damage. One can remember N.O. as it had been. @@KevenTalks
Well, there is another Southern treasure to discover (at least one): Macon, Georgia. This is one of the few important places that preserves Antebellum Southern architecture in abundance, because Gen. Sherman, in his famous march of huge destruction through the South, did not include Macon on his warrior itinerary. Macon is a treasureload of beauty and pre-War Between the States charm. There is so much Antebellum heritage, that even much of what one could call slums is included in it. The city is blessedly free of tourism phoniness, too, and the massive presence of cherry trees makes the air fragrant and heady even in hot and humid weather. Lovely place! @@KevenTalks