ep216 - modelmaking fundamentals: polishing a canopy

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  • in which we see some extreme stripping but get no lap dance, and then prove that a happy ending is still possible with a little elbow wax and discipline.

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  • @CraigBaumer
    @CraigBaumer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey Will as a FYI, when went to a Micro mesh class on how to polish out scratches on a real canopy. The one thing the instructor stressed was not to sand in a circular motion. We started out with the "roughest" grit, spray a lot of water (we used a regular pump type spray bottle with tap water) sand in one direction. Once the area felt smooth and you weren't feeling resistance on your sanding pad. We went to the next highest grit and started sanding 90 degrees from the previous direction, and so on and so on till it was almost crystal clear and then we used some plastic polishing compound.

    • @barpfoto
      @barpfoto  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes correct and I forgot to mention that. Always sand orthogonally. Having said that, I have to also say that I hate micromesh because of their shady made-up grit system. Regardless of that, though the technique is valid.

  • @bobdyer422
    @bobdyer422 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've always used Mothers Plastic Headlight restorer. Paint, Super glue, scratch marks and fog from Lacquer thinner all comes clear and leaves a perfect shine using Mothers. A little dab on a cotton bud and some elbow grease. Works every time.

  • @CompetitionChris
    @CompetitionChris 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You may hate the bloopers but they're part of the entertainment. As always, great video. Very informative.

  • @LynnDippel
    @LynnDippel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for that tutorial Will. I really need to learn that. You have brought back that canopy from hell.

  • @Drsef50
    @Drsef50 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. Thank you for sharing and stressing that this isn't rocket science but simply hard work to achieve the desired result. Your detailed explanations help a lot.

  • @tedbriscoe6649
    @tedbriscoe6649 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been using automobile white polishing compound and a Q-tip applicator with great success.

  • @paulsheriff5733
    @paulsheriff5733 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe I was heavy handed and likely used the wrong buffing wheel, but I used a dremel and tamiya polishing compounds on my Tamiya 1/32 Spit canopy and had some melting happen. Many hours of hand sanding and polishing followed. Saved it.

  • @kerinelson8489
    @kerinelson8489 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos man!

  • @StraightThread
    @StraightThread 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You ever try Nevr-Dull? An old civilian watchmaker who worked in the instrument shop at one of the bases I was stationed used it to polish scratches out of watch crystals. He would put a little spit on his finger and rub it on a small piece of crocus cloth to pick up some of the rouge, then he'd rub the crystal with his finger to polish the scratches. Then he'd wipe that off and use a piece of Nevr-Dull to polish the haze off the crystal. He'd make scratches disappear in a crystal that you would think needed to be replaced.
    It's a cotton so you could take a piece of it and polish on the inside of the canopy with your finger.

  • @ricknesbitt5949
    @ricknesbitt5949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! Impressive.

  • @captaincruise8796
    @captaincruise8796 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.

  • @cobusprinsloo
    @cobusprinsloo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With sanding, should one use a circular motion or sand in one direction?

  • @cobusprinsloo
    @cobusprinsloo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the name of that polishing tool? I messed up a canopy by trying to remove some paint on it with mineral turpentine. The clear plastic immediately turned fuzzy! Is sanding the only option, or is there another way to fix it?

  • @tomhutchins7495
    @tomhutchins7495 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting video. Actually seeing the process and results demystifies it and makes me feel far more inclined to invest in these tools

  • @ComfortablyNum6
    @ComfortablyNum6 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dettol antiseptic disinfectant is great at removing paint totally non-districtive. Soak overnight, but starts to work within minutes. No idea if it works on 2k though.
    Ironically, I have cracked a canopy putting blutak inside to support it so I didn't crack it!!!

  • @bradmannion6769
    @bradmannion6769 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video. I have a question, what is the best way to get that iridescent look on modern canopies like on the F-22 and F-35

  • @rocdoc2370
    @rocdoc2370 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would you apply the uber subtle Gold ting to the canopy that is designed to keep the deliverence from blinding the cockpit in cold war era aircraft? by the way, we used Micromesh on aircraft canopies, up to 10,000 grit i beleive.

  • @travisehlers2884
    @travisehlers2884 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think keeping the videos long doesn't give the false impression that polishing the part only takes two steps and 10 minutes. These things take time!

  • @paulmoore5401
    @paulmoore5401 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmmm......not convinced about not using Future. I think it really brightens and clears clear parts pretty darn good! Especially for the time commitment.

    • @barpfoto
      @barpfoto  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's a poor solution that creates potential issues downstream. polishing is easy and has no downsides.

    • @paulwoods4349
      @paulwoods4349 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barpfoto I disagree. I've been using Future for over 10 years and have never had an issue. My canopies are still perfectly clear and shiny.

    • @barpfoto
      @barpfoto  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulwoods4349 you're welcome to disagree. You do you. But that doesn't change the fact that you're doing unnecessary work and creating unnecessary risk and still not getting something that looks as good as a properly polished canopy.

  • @wwkdiecastmore5647
    @wwkdiecastmore5647 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video, thanks for the information, appreciate it!...Bill

  • @SisoBoadaClotas
    @SisoBoadaClotas 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very instructive Will!! As i have understood..... With a non "fucked up" canopy, it will be enough with sanding and buffing?

  • @georgetaylor5482
    @georgetaylor5482 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great care, great skill, great job, that is a feak'n miracle.

  • @PeterAgostiniJdcap26
    @PeterAgostiniJdcap26 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been there done that long process. But worth it

  • @almacneish9657
    @almacneish9657 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice vid Will - just need to get some Zam and yellow polishing wheels.

  • @zoltan-8233
    @zoltan-8233 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me is important too. When i buying a modell from ebay more times i got with scratched "glasses" from the seller

  • @StudioLaMagica
    @StudioLaMagica 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Starting with a 'disaster' and accompanied with some self ironically comments it ends with a great great result. I was entertained and learned a lot.
    So really great stuff.
    Thanks from Germany

  • @telerulz
    @telerulz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn bro, solid work.

  • @rikbryan9709
    @rikbryan9709 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with you on "Future". It belongs where it was meant to be.On the floor.

  • @Jaze2022
    @Jaze2022 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you 2k clear over your end result to get that glass clear?

  • @paulevans3261
    @paulevans3261 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    OUTSTANDING!!!

  • @2kidsnosleep
    @2kidsnosleep 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where do you get Elasta Girl paper towels???...Must Have!!!

    • @eugenerudman
      @eugenerudman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      is that you talking, or the 2 kids? :D

    • @2kidsnosleep
      @2kidsnosleep 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am the third and biggest kid...maybe fourth, forgot the dog

  • @N925CX
    @N925CX 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like 6 people caught that edge! lol

  • @alec_f1
    @alec_f1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will, I may have missed it in an older video, but what kind of fiber are you using on that polishing wheel? My little cotton wheels don't seem to work well for me, even after I rough them up with a blade. Someone in the comments mentioned a soft foam medium for liquids?

    • @barpfoto
      @barpfoto  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      for rouges, i use yellow cotton wheels.

    • @alec_f1
      @alec_f1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barpfoto Shit, I feel lesser of a man now. My technique must suck, or I'm really obsessive of my shine with a cotton wheel and tubes of Tamiya polish. I'm getting some Zam.

  • @jonbuller6149
    @jonbuller6149 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tutorial. I don't think it matters about not getting a perfect finish. Aircraft , especially ones from a conflict wouldn't be perfect either. That was some example to show though. Are you sure magic wasn't involved?

  • @JohnAdams-qh4zr
    @JohnAdams-qh4zr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Will, I know I'm probably about to ask a stupid question ! But I'm sure I'm not alone. I have been modelling for 40 years. I started with airfix enamels and now use acrylics, but you talk about mrp laquers. So I lay myself on the alter of ridicule and ask what are laquers and what is the difference between it and paint . And could you do a video explaining. Many thanks ( from England which probably isn't far enough away from you ! ) john

    • @alec_f1
      @alec_f1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Big difference is that the laquer of the MRP is what I'd call slightly hot, meaning that it ever so slightly melts the surface because it is a solvent to styrene (like a ketone) which actually kind of bonds the pigments on to the surface and gets superior adhesion that is resistant to peeling or wearing. It becomes one with the styrene like Tamiya liquid glue does to plastic, but far less volatile. Enamels are more of a varnish oil mix that hardens on top and doesn't penetrate the surface. Many "enamels" are more water based it seems these days. I think Will has some vids on it. Doog's Models I think does also as well as others. You can find them under MRP here on TH-cam.

  • @wrinkledm
    @wrinkledm 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which model Proxxon rotary tool is that Will?

    • @barpfoto
      @barpfoto  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      micromot ef-50

  • @smekula
    @smekula 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    try brake fluid. soak it for a day. doesn't touch the plastic

  • @cesarignjas
    @cesarignjas 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will, I have used Future/Pledge floor care to cover some small cracks on the canopy of my typhoon to a good effect, looks like those windshield repairs that enters into the cracs and make them desapear, I had some of them looking like the Phanton you have showed here some time ago, In my model it was gone, I have masked them, painted and it didn´t peeled off. Now to strip paint I always use IPA in the ultrasonic bath, works every time for me. And I see you like power tools, have you tried out the foam type polishing pad that are like the ones of real cars? you can prime it with the polishing liquid in small amounts so it does not fly everywhere, it is squishy so it fits and conform to many places, you can get one backplate with some velcro on it and you swap the top ones in different density to have more cut or less, you can find it in one or two inches of diameter, you can also find sanding discs to hook on that plate, I found very confortable to fix the tool to the table and move the piece around against the spounge of the pad . www.ebay.de/itm/1-Soft-Sponge-Polishing-Pads-M6-Air-Sander-Thread-Car-Buffing-Waxing-Clean-Tool-/323562194462 plus this one www.ebay.de/itm/Abrasives-1-Sander-Backer-Plate-Pad-1-8inch-Shank-100Pcs-Sanding-Paper-new/302963887782?hash=item468a0e0ea6:g:7XkAAOSwSppb8h5v:rk:25:pf:0

    • @barpfoto
      @barpfoto  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      i need to try those!

  • @samuelvasquez8170
    @samuelvasquez8170 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @JEFFCADENHEAD
    @JEFFCADENHEAD 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been doing this for years....nothing new here.

    • @Simonize41
      @Simonize41 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So why comment? Did you need to watch Will’s video if you’re so astute with this subject? Just sayin’...😉

    • @jimsmodels
      @jimsmodels 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He needs attention because his mommy didnt love him, his wife wants him dead and his kids have disowned him and if he isn't following accomplished modelers around trolling them he otherwise gets none.

    • @barpfoto
      @barpfoto  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol. seriously, cadenhead? you're really this desperate for attention? i feel bad for you, son. but not really.

    • @peterstaklis3712
      @peterstaklis3712 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to know you invented the wheel Cadenhead. I'll make sure to watch any announcements from you on what's new and what isn't. Otherwise I'd like to thank Will for all the effort he puts into to teaching and informing other noobs like me.