1965 Indo-Pak War chronicles: Air Marshal Denzil Keelor speaks
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- 1965 Indo-Pak war chronicles
As part of our planned series on the 1962 and 1965 wars that India fought, we invited Air Marshal Denzil Keelor to speak to Wilderness Films India. Hear this story of the war, in this clip!
Air Marshal Denzil Keelor PVSM, AVSM, VrC, KC, is a retired Indian Air Force air marshal and a hero of the Indo-Pakistani war. He was honoured with a number of medals including the Veer Chakra, the Param Vishisht Seva Medal, the Keerti Chakra and the Ati Vishisht Seva Medal. He has a younger brother, Trevor, who was also honoured for his service in the Indian Air Force. Both brothers have a Veer Chakra for the same feat of shooting down a Sabre jet. This is the first time two brothers have received Veer Chakras for the same reason.
On 19th September 1965, Sqn Ldr Denzil Keelor was providing fighter escort to Mystere aircraft during a strike mission in the operations against Pakistan. His section of four Gnat aircraft was engaged by four enemy Sabre jet aircraft and the battle was fought at a height of less than 2,000 feet from the ground where enemy anti-aircraft guns were also active. Under his guidance, his subsection leader shot down a Sabre jet aircraft. Thereafter Sqn Ldr Keelor himself engaged another Sabre jet and crippled it. Throughout the operations, Sqn Ldr Keelor was a source of inspiration to his pilots and ground personnel. His courage and devotion to duty were in the best traditions of the Air Force. For this he was awarded the Vir Chakra. The Sabre kill by Denzil earned the Keelor family a unique distinction. Both the brothers now had Sabres to their credit and both earned the Veer Chakra, making it the first time brothers had won the Veer Chakra for identical feats.
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Sir I am from Pakistan but I salute ur courage that u recognize bravery of one of our Air Force legend fighter pilot squadron leader Sarfraz Rafiqui shaheed
All your Indian national feelings are respected and appreciated: but, what is India fighting to get ?
Kashmir ?
What a price to pay of 70 years of partition injustice and denial of an agreed principle.
Inter- regional peace and development would have been more rewarding.
@@bernardshaw8115 sounds like an uneducated person who had been living under rocks for years is speaking about morality and ethics which is indeed a multi layered idea. Keep living in your ivory tower as I m not interested in educating you.
Air Marshal Denzil Keelor is a national hero and living legend. He is my hero also. I had worked with him for nearly 4 years. He is remarkable person and human being. I salute him.
brave and great fighter .. we salute him
SOLDIER SPIRIT.. GREAT TO LISTEN FROM A TRUE SOLDIER
I'm so proud to be an Anglo indian know that you are one too and even more to be a citizen of India. My respect for You and Trevor (R.I.P) are immeasurable.
Salute to the old air warrior
As a school student read the thrilling news of Keelor brothers having shot down Pakistan Sabrre jets.
The sabre the air marshal is talking about which according to him was shot down by the Gnat was flown by Flight Lieutenent Yousuf khan,it was infact heavily damaged especially in the elevators but somehow managed to land back safely and was repaired.
Yes this is truth, and he made them all run away with his injured air craft, and this loser is fabricated the whole history... There is still no match with PAF
Keeler sir , are you proud of abhinandan, we made him drink tea!
You proud we make you surrender 94k pak
India does not understand air power and how to use it. Because, the Navy and the Air force have generally been pushed under the carpet as it is convenient to do so given inter service rivalry and the absolute stupidity of the Neta-Babu over lords who know little else beyond how to loot and plunder the Nation. and the Army seems the closest thing to the Police they know and understand and the severest threat to the immortality of their methodologies of plunder and perpetuation. In 1962 Nehru groudned the Air force on US advise and my Dad's eldest brother's (Air Commodore R. Sitaram) career came to an end because of his vigorously championing the commitment of Air Power against China. In 1965 my Dad's second eldest brother (Air Masrhal Rajaram DFC) was sacked by Shastri for smashing Pakistan's reserves (both men and materials) at Peshawar by surprise and bringing the war to a quick and abrupt conclusion. Peshawar was almost out of range for the bombers and there were no long range fighters to provide escort, so he called for volunteers when the met report was favourable. He did not inform Air HQ or MoD of the plan as this would have immediately leaked to Pakistan and doomed the mission. (He was reinstated by Indira Gandhi). As this was a strategic contribution to victory its has completely escaped the annals of Military Historians who are more comfortable with what they understand: the battles between Infantry and Patton Tanks or, at best, the dog fights between Gnats and Sabres. Kargil show cased the woeful lack of adequate and appropriate air power for close ground support. A MIG and a Chopper were downed in the early stages due to the lack of Anti-SAM decoys and the severe imposition of US ideas by the Vajpayee regime (in a 1962 redux) leading to the effective withdrawal of air power from the theater. As on date, the Neta-Babus still believe that the correct way to conduct a war is the way they conduct their politics and gang fights in the slums or houses of legislature. By sheer numbers. Quantitative rather than qualitative and "paid to die" without the necessary equipment, training and so on. Hence the Air Force and the Navy that are more equipment and training than manpower driven are even less understood. The top Brass of these services are equally guilty by following in the foot steps of Babu Land and not pushing to fore front of winning wars but, instead asking for "toys for the boys" like an entirely redundant, obsolete and carcinogenic Admiral Gorshkov that is marooned in Karwar port without the armour, defenses, aircraft or accompanying war and logistics ships that would make up an operatable Carrier, which when operatable will be all dressed up with nowhere to go.
***** That is, of course, the official and approved War History. Now how about the truth?
+jaganpvs Au contraire. After the Peshawar bombing the then Chief of Air Staff (ACM Arjun Singh) was summoned and admonished by Shastri. The exact words used were "Aisa kabhi nahi hona tha", to which the COAS replied "Phir kabhi naheen ho saktha hai" as the element of surprise was not replicatable. I heard this tale from FM Manekshaw and this was corroborated by Air Commodore Sitaram. (The Air Marshal had passed on from Leukemia a few days before he could take over as COAS long before I got to hear this story) Air Marshal Rajaram, DFC, was given a Padma Bhushan along side Vijayanthimala with Indira Gandhi, as Prime Minister, in attendance at Rashtrapathi Bhavan. He was always embarrassed by the Padma Bhushan which pulled an Air Officer down to the level of politicians and entertainers. That was in the days of KCOs. Today there are service men campaigning to dishonour the Field Marshal with a posthumous Bharatha Rathna. The details of the campaign used to be in the Rajaram Room at the Defence Services Staff College, Wellington and may still be there if not erased or modified for political convenience. What can one say of an India where Parliament stood up in one accord to erase 1948 newspaper cartoons from Government approved and published School History Text Books as recently as 2012?
+Suchindranath Aiyer Agree with you 100% Sir. Nehru destroyed India and its' people and that continued for next 50yrs.. This dynasty rules India rather then service and engage with people
I am fail to understand that what happened after one saber shot down.
The result is that iaf shot down 2 aircraft but paf shot down more aircraft.......
keeler Sir, you were great in IAF.
For correct account of this episode please read Kaisar Tufails artical"Run; its a one-o four" in his book 'Clasic Air Battles of PAF'
indian 110 lost aircrfat destoryed and 71 war me 107 destoryed and kargal war me 3 aircrfat and one helicaptor lost
Aakash Mengal - lucky them PAF stayed quiet. Can you imagine?
Nasser MJ shameless Pakistan didn't accept their soldiers and kept saying they were mujahidin and by the way your PM said they lost 3000 army men in this war
Again count them ;p 2 Fighters+1 Helicopter +1 fighter +1 fighter. 26 Feb to 20 mar 2019
@@03zeeshii *TODAY DG ISPR GAFOORA WAS CAUGHT FOR CREATING ANOTHER FAKE VIDEO. He created fake video using this very Air Marshall's interview & posted his 2015 videos as after Balakot dog fight reviews. Caught red handed, their Army accepted it was a fake video ..*
@@multicommunity lol idiot Nawaz sharif is the person who was convicted of lies and later punished by supreme court.I m glad,my enemies believe on liers because they r themselves biggest pathological liers 😂
That sabre made it back to sargodha in bad shape....IAF claim the kill
That's the other side of the story
thats how indians feel happy for the LOSS of 4 x IAF plane..they were rejoicing shooting just 1 :)
@p w u indians are out of this world seriously.. You celebrated abhinandan shot out of the pmane and gave him. Vir chakra... Ab ye na kehna k usnay f16 giraya tha
@@babarnawazkhan yes because everyone knows truth
Those 4 aircrafts were ground attack aircrafts whereas we shot down pure dog fighter f86 so mathersachap go and first learn to distinguish between fighter bomber and dog fighter.
@@yoyomodiji teree maa k kalee chutt mein apna bomb gira doon...gandee badboodar chutt
well the airmarshal is ofcourse correct. his brother shot down ONE! Our ace extraordinaire M M ALAM shot down - 9 - to enter world record. he went deep across and took them and took them!
madarsha chap 😂
*Tu kaha tha, jhootey sapno mey jeena bhi jhoot hai, behest nehi, dojok jaega tu. Ha ha ha*
*TODAY DG ISPR GAFOORA WAS CAUGHT FOR CREATING ANOTHER FAKE VIDEO. He created fake video using this very Air Marshall's interview & posted his 2015 videos as after Balakot dog fight reviews. Caught red handed, their Army accepted it was a fake video ..*
1st i was really surprised and shocked to hear that this has happened. But as I dug deeper, i came to know that it was just a Pakistani perspective.
No one in the world recognises this feet by then Sq Ld MM Alam. Not even USAF or any other neutral expert.
Moreover, if you read about MM Alam by Pakistani airforce officers themselves, they write he was considered not fit for promotion due to his reckless and flashy behaviour. He was many times reprimanded for defying orders. Though they acquise this feet of gallantry they do mention that on that particular day, he got separated from his formation and returned alone with no eyewitness to certify his claims.
It does not amuse me that he was awarded Sitara-e-jurat instead of Nishan-e-haider, despite his claimed amazing feet of 5 fighters in 60secs.
hahahhaaha pakistani begged aircrafts from america by pledging there sovereignity we ddidnt get and kept our foregn policy independent . and u pakistani feel proud of others alm
1965 war indian aircrfat 110 losing pakistan 19 lost
Kaustav Kundu hahaha ha
Funny Cartoons. We have given u reply kicked u back to Lahore. Yet u don't learn ur lessons. Problem is it is dogs tails.
This is only half story air martial.please tell about sqn leader brijpal singh who landed in pakistan and his aircraft is in paf museum karachi
This is Pakistani claim.
Neutral observors put it 95 IAF losses n 45-47 PAF losses.
One thing that must be mention is that despite the technical edge of PAF, IAF still had a greater number of Sorties.
And when calcuted from Sortie to Loss ratio. IAF takes the lead.
For every one PAF sortie, IAF was doing 8.
Pakistan undoubtely won the air Battle in 1965
Hahahhahaha
Pakistan shot down on 1 September all 4 your aircrafts
And on 6 September you shot down one and it should be written in golden words
Total Indian jets downed 119
Vs
Pakistani Jets downed. 20.
Case closed.
So 4 - 1. Still Air Marshal feeling proud. Its funny. In 1965 the PAF score was 119 (or 73 according to neutral sources) and IAF score was 20.
IAF WAS ANNIHILATED. Their pilots were reluctant to enter Pak airspace.
*First try to understand what is as Sauber & what was Vampire etc. India was not rich then & neither accepted free dollars & Patton tanks, Sauber Aircraft, Radar system all in exchange of countries sovereignty. They lost even with superior arms. That's why India is 3rd largest economy now Pak accepts 19th IMF bail even after rescue amts from China, Saudi, UAE & now looking 4 new begging from Qatar & US. Real feel Pity for Pakistanis. Loans to return loan. Ha ha ha ha ha*
No it's not according to neutral sources..it according to Pakistani text books😂
@@samratb9169 its 119 in Pakistani text books!
@@NeedforSpeedGamesforpc then no one trust. Because Pak lacks in education more than any other country 😂
Undoubtedly pakistan won the air war but on land india had the edge. It destroyed more tanks and captured more area. Wish we would never fight like this again and I wish there shouldn't be another operation like Gibraltar.
Love from india.
after 55 years you got to know India lost Air Fight. After more years you will know India Also lost on Land! wait for another honest man! We are told everything he is saying so this proves my side is honest and your side is not.
@@03zeeshii hmm porki army ne surrender ni kiya tha wo indian army ne kiya tha 1971 me Bangladesh toh abi bna h india se kashmir tmne jeet liya kbka hmm Pakistani army delhi me apna jhanda gaad chuki thi 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂
They didn't even won in air, they destroyed most of IAF's plane on airfields as they carried out attacks with surprise for which IAF wasn't ready but in air they didn't even used to engage gnats
@ভারতের যম তালেবান You are right,India lost 60-75 aircrafts. India lost 190 tanks & Pakistan 300. India lost 3000 personnel whereas Pakistan lost 3800. India lost 540 km2 area where as Pakistan lost 1830 km2 area, what neutral sources say that it's humanly impossible to shoot 5 planes in a minute
@ভারতের যম তালেবান copy paste 🤡🤡 who's interested in reading fiction we show the reality to the world, a world record surrender with 93000 army men and dividing pakistan into two
I wonder why he didn't mention the total numbers of aircrafts lost by both sides..... 😂😂
That's because Pakistan nodes with neutral observors only when it has upper hand.
110 to 19 aircraft losses it a Pakistani claim.
Neutral observors put it as 95 to 47, in Pakistan's favour.
But also mention, the technical edge that PAF was enjoying by becoming member of CEATO n SENTO. And, despite being technically inferior in Air Defence mechanism, IAF still maintained an 8:1 sortie ratio against PAF.
With that sortie ratio the losses for PAF seems too much.
@soumit sarangi lol chutiyee tumhare jets aj bhi hamare museum mein intact conditions mein pare hue hain.Go and read about squadron leader Brij pal who later became Air marshal 😂😂😂
@@taahamalik8717 we destroyed your 73 jets
@@beenadharia9385 in bollywood
Wat about THE great legendary M.M.ALAM saahib he destroyed your jets like birds
And you remember denzil keelor and arjan singh who destroyed your weak air birds
Keelor keeps forgetting PAF Pilot MM Alam, who created world record of shooting 5 indian jets in 60 seconds, until today no one has broken that record ! -1965-
And no one recognises it either. Not even USAF, of which the sabre was primary aircraft.
@@Vishal_Chintal lol, the world recognizes it, except indians, who love to keep themselves in the dark !
you can search for world's best air wars !!
and MM Alam's name will always be there !!
@@hafsakhan2226 Google it my friend. Both indian and Pakistani sources cast very strong doubts on his claims.
5 aircrafts in 60secs is an almost inhuman feet and i was pleasantly surprised and delighted when i 1st heard of it. But as I read more i discovered it to be just a Pakistani Airforce claim. Sure Pakistan considers MM Alam as an ace, but that's that. No neutral observor ever complied with this claim.
And interesting fact is that i am not amused after researching all the sources that MM Alam was awarded only a Sitara-e-jurat instead of a Nishan-e-haider, for his feet was so amazing he must be awarded the highest gallantry award of Pakistan, but he wasn't.
In addition to this he wasn't even promoted beyond Air commodore, because he was deemed unfit for promotions by his superiors. He spent more time in religious affairs.
During one of his pep talks, he mentioned that on 7 September 1965, when he was about to make a 270° turn he saw a divine light and turned in that direction while doing so he saw indian jets and sprayed on them hitting them all. It was allah who made him do that, is what he claims.
With all due respect my friend, war is not some religious literature. Here things like these are utilised just for propoganda.
That being said, the Pakistani bomber pilots were the real heroes for the Pakistan , they kept you away from losing the war.
@@Vishal_Chintal dear, you should know the difference between Nishane haidar and Sitare Jurat,
nishane haider is awarded to those who are shaheed, nishane haidar is not awarded to an alive army man/woman ! MM Alam passed away recently in 2013
sitare jurat is awarded to those who have shown true "jurat" meaning "courage" during a war !!
and talking about neutrality then if you actually search for an image of Australian News Sept/1965, then Australia declared Pakistan's victory.. but it's hard for any indian to believe !!
also, if you have watched or read books of indian military officers they themselves have noted that due that white light they coudnt see where to shoot !!
i remember long back reading a book written by an indian officer .. i actually got that book from an indian friend..
i have a lot of indian friends as i dont live in Pakistan !
@@hafsakhan2226 no sir ,I'm sorry but your information is wrong. Yes Nishan-e-haider has been awarded to men who were killed in action while serving their country. But nowhere has it been mentioned that Nishan-e-haider can only be awarded to only slain military personnel.
It is an outright discrimination, it's like a man has shown immense courage and served his men and country to best of his ability still, "Oh, you are not dead that's why you will not receive the highest gallantry award, If you'd been dead then we would have give you Nishan-e-haider". Oh Come on!
Nishan-e-haider is comparable to Victoria cross and Medal of Honor, are these awards only awarded to dead people?
Moving on, even if i take your word as truth, then the question is what about Hilal-e-jurat, why wasn't MM Alam awarded the 2nd highest award (which most Pakistanis think is the highest award given to living military men )?
Btw sir, I'll share with you what i know, when you are in ACM (Air Combat Manuvering) a fighter aircraft in 270° tight turn as was MM Alam was doing, you are under tremendous Gs. 6 maybe 7Gs, this also effects you bullet trajectory. One has to come behind his target at an exact Position and after that you can use only a few bullets as you are moving away at very high speed and losing the target which in case were the robust hawker hunters. These beasts were not easy to be downed, still 4 of them fromone formation and 5th from other, were taken out, and all that happened in mere 60secs.
Thats like watching star wars.
indian lost 3 war
Which ones Bangladesh ,Kargil. ?
*ha ha ha ha. Pakistan won all wars but went to US plus international bodies to end every war (see Bhutto's cry in UN against India, available in TH-cam), but didn't gain an inch of land while India lost all wars but created Bangladesh (71) & gained land in J&K (48), Rajasthan (Sir Creek plus adjoining & clicked photos in Lahore plus Valley gain (65), gained Siachen & surroundings (84-2003), Kargil (99)*
What about M.M Alam who shoot down 5 Indian aircrafts in 60 second, sir this called WORLD RECORD or you can say HISTORICAL WORLD RECORD, could you please tell your people after hitting these 5 planes
Arjan singh