Why is there a WEIRD HOLE in the side of my 1984 Bally X's And O's Pinball Machine? Let's Play It!
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Hi Joe, here's your answer: your machine is from Switzerland (and so do I), operators here used this frequently. It is actually a "safe"; the pinball machines keys were stored inside; then a lock with a common key came on top of it to secure them (which you are missing). It allowed the operator to go anywhere on his locations with only one key and retrieve the machines keys directly on site. Hope this clarified it ;)
And if any viewer comes to Switzerland, my pinball club www.shootagain-fribourg.com opens one WE every month!
Why would the operator not just change the locks on the front doors of the games to make them all the same lock? it seems much more expensive, and time consuming to drill a big hole in the side of the cabinet to put a key safe in that you still have to put a lock on!
@@LyonsArcade Fair point. Will ask a retired one I know about this ;)
@@LyonsArcade That one's easy: Security. If all the front doors had the same lock, then a thief would only need one key (and someone to keep the employees distracted, and no hidden cameras) and they could steal all the money. Especially if they made the effort to look like the guy who normally does that job. "Oh, he's sick today, I'm filling in for him."
@@SpearM3064 If all safes have the same lock (which they do) then all front door keys are equally accessible, so that is not a valid point. You're just moving the universal lock to the side of the machine. So, it's not added security. It's that all machines, including pinball, will have this universal key, whereas a universal key for the front door would be key type (pin tumbler, tubular, disc, etc.) specific to fit the cabinet, so they can't have a universal front door key for all types of machines, but they can have a universal safe key that stores all the different keys within the machine itself.
That's something german and it's called a Gauselmann key safe, what means that there supposed to be a cylinder in it wat holds all the keys of all the machine's on that location and that cylinder can be locked so only the serviceman on that location has acces for all the service keys.
So in fact you're missing half of this safe👍
I believe that's it for sure... not sure why you'd need it though, seems ridiculous to me to drill a hole in the cabinet, install a safe, just to put a key for the front door on. Seems simpler to just put a new lock on the front door ($2.59)
@@LyonsArcade I guess it's more for puttin' the keys in of the jukebox and slotmachine's (rotamint, triomint called in germany) of that location so the service guy doesn't have to carry all the keys with him. But I don't get it either. I have several juke's from germany all with these type of hole's in the cabinets on the most ridiculous places, it's a shame that's for sure
Joe's Classic Video Games i must say , roy is telling the truth. We in The Netherlands have the same system for big buildings. A small tube safe is inside the wall with opened with a universal key that is owned by the fire dept
Some operators in The Netherlands used it too. It is indeed a key vault.
@@LyonsArcade Most german locations had one machine with this key safe. It contained all keys for all the machines in that location, pinball, jukebox, slot machines. The serviceman had to carry only one key for all locations. That key was individual for the operator.
When they took the one machine with the safe out of service, they removed the safe, leaving a hole in the wood that would be closed with metal covers, still available today. The safe went into the new machine.
My two ideas are- 1. It's a security mount so someone would use it to hold the machine in place to keep it from being stolen. 2. a mount for a beer holder. It would slide in and hold up your beer as you drank and played.
It may be... there's probably another part that's missing that makes it all make sense, but this hole inside is smooth all around so there's nothing to lock in or anything. I need to let Twig Boy know what it says in German maybe he can figure it out, hahaha
@@LyonsArcade Here's the answer to your mystery: This hole is a so called Schlüsseltresor (Keysafe), so the owner of the machine, propably a casino, could keep the keys better organized.This is how it should look with the inner part: shop.kiesewetter.de/de/sicherheit/sicherungssysteme/schluesseltresor/schluesseltresorhuelse-verchromt
@@vermilion7777 wow thanks for the answer! I have now learned something today so it makes for a productive day!
Oh! German writing. Gotta be a sex thing. :)
@@Codeaholic1 We're giving such stuff mostly english names...
The best game I was happy to sell once I got it working. Bought it broken, fixed it only to see it light up and play it. Loved the BASS it had, nice sounds.
😎 wish I could run down some old machines in need of rehab ... most of what I find is already done ... would be a fun hobby at my computer store 👍🏼
Yup sometimes you have to just buy a completely trashed one off craigslist or something to get started :)
My theory is that borrowers live in this machine and when you reach a high score you are rewarded with a tuggie by inserting your member into said hole
it may be, but there's nobody in there now!
A Pinball Winner's Glory Hole? Ewwwww!
The magic of the third flipper is you can swing at the ball as it is on the way up, not just on the way down
I'll have to try that sometime :)
Yes, a lot of my machines in the past, had this small safe . It is for the key from the machines. I had a central key for all safe´s, so only one key and many machines. This system came from the eighties and was from the operator where I bought the machines (in Germany ). Greetings
Thank you... why did they go to the trouble to add a lock, a safe, and drill a hole when they could have just changed the lock on the door?
@@LyonsArcade Perhaps it's considering selling on, you would have to change any lock back on the machine itself or you would then have a machine in the wild with a key to all your on site machines... so managing and not losing the original lock/key is an issue or your buying new locks and keys when you sell ?
Also for whatever reason you may wish to prevent access to a specific machine (safety issue?)... you can essentially do this by removing the access key from the safe thus people with the safe key can't access it but still access all other machines you want them to.
@@LyonsArcade The Arcade owner and usually the game tech each had a master key that fit ALL the safes. That way they could store the key for that machine in the safe. Normally the arcade owner would remove the safe and plug the hole in the machine. This one happen to keep it's safe.....
When I saw the inside sealed tube it instantly reminded me of the same thing installed on our fleet trucks at work. The car key is inside and a master key opens all of the tubes. The mechanics then have access to all of the vehicles with one master key.
@@LyonsArcade I would say that if you get rid of the machine or sell it, you'd have to go through the trouble of restoring the original locks so that whoever you sold the machine to didn't end up with a key that would open all your other machines.
That's a hotdog hole.
Others have suggested that....
Oh the glory
Hello Greetings from Germany. This Hole was a Key Safe. In Germany the Arcades are called Game Hall (Spielhalle) In the Spielhalle was the Problem that every Pinball Machine has his own Key. and that is the reasend . So the staff needs only one key for each machine in the arcade for the key safe and in it was always the original key of the machine.
The only thing I don't understand is, why not just change the locks on the doors, instead of drilling a hole, installing the safe, and keying all the safe locks the same? You'd think they'd just put the lock on the door instead of on the safe lock :)
This would of course simplify the work of criminals. The fact that there are different keys made their work difficult. But there were also public places. cinemas, pubs, swimming pools and snack bars. Since the vending machine operators had to repair thousands of devices and empty them, it would be crazy to use 20 bundles of keys with 40 to 50 keys.
I'm from the UK and tic tac toe is known as noughts and crosses over here
Very interesting, I've never heard that phrase, thank you!
this reminds me of the pinball machine we had in our garage as a kid OXO by Williams. good times!
Very similar I'll bet!
That pipe had a cap/lock on it. The route guy could unlock it and keys for the location would be in there. He could unlock it, get the keys. Service the games. Lock the keys back up. And go to the next location.
Hmmm... that's a really good theory, have you seen one of these before or is that a very educated guess? Sounds possible....
So he needs a key to get another key? How does that save time?
@@twizz420
Like the lock box the realtors use to show houses. Many realtors can show the same house by retrieving the house key from the lockbox.
@@twizz420 It doesn't. But it makes sure that all the keys for the arcade are in one place. The guys that serviced these machines were responsible for collecting the money from several different arcades. Let's say you were responsible for collecting the coins at ten arcades, each with 40 machines. Would *you* want to carry 400 keys with you (ten key rings with 40 keys each)? With this device, you only needed one key for each location... the key that opens the keysafe. You opened the keysafe, got the keys, serviced the machines, then locked the keys back up before going to the next arcade.
I loved this video!
19:30 pro move people, I thought, scratching head , glass is off just reach over and tap it with your finger. LOL
was that the best click bait title for a pin video or what!! Bravo Ron 👏
Thanks CNKayutube, we appreciate it, lots of people seem to have watched it so I guess the title worked :) BTW the glass wasn't off, that's cheating!!!! (LOL)
The key safe might just be so they could use secured collectors. That means you have one keyed-alike lock on all machines (your arcade location has "OWNER KEY"). Then you would have a "OWNER KEY" inside the key safe (putted on ONE machine only at that location).The secured collector, would have a "SAFE MASTER KEY" that would fit ALL arcade locations enroute. The secured collector, could then with one single key, go and collect all the arcade locations in one go.
I think the tube is possible to unscrew from the inside, or it have an opening somewhere. So you could put the owner key inside without having a key to the cap. Think like the door tubes on some apartment doors, where you can put your apartment key so the landlord can access for service.
The problem with using a keyed-alike lock on ALL arcade location, is that you as a single arcade owner, would be able to access ALL arcade location enroute, even those that you don't own.
The reason this system were used, is that wafer locks are difficult to master key without introducing security risks. In TSA locks master keying are done by having 2 different profiles for the user key and master key, and then have a wafer with a cutout that is different on the left and right side. But that requires manufacturing a lot of wafers, it would actually require creating X * Y different wafers, where X is number of key positions, and Y is the number of key depths for a single position. (number of different wafers required: X*Y manufactured, and number of different key combinations become X^Y)
Nowadays, in arcades that use secured collectors, they use a master keyed lock instead on the cabinet (ASSA DESMO). Secured collector then legally owns the lock/cylinder, and then the secured collector has 1 key that goes to ALL locations enroute, and the arcade owner has 1 (or more copies) of a key that goes to HIS machines ONLY.
usually the wafer lock is removed and then stored inside the machine, so if machine changes owner, the original wafer lock can be replaced.
Technician usually don't serve multiple arcade locations, so he have only OWNER KEY.
I dunno seems pretty over thought out to me for them to go through all that trouble. Neat little gadget I suppose though :)
@@LyonsArcade Yeah, but remember also that this is a time when master keyed locks were too expensive or unfeasible to have, so "master keying" had to be done by using different sets of keyed alike locks combined with different keyed alike safes.
That makes sense, thanks Sebastian!
Those kickers were actually pretty affective, considering they're essentially just elastics.
I haven't had the chance to play one of these yet, but it looks a lot of fun. Difficult though to get a complete set of o's or x's.
That pinging when waiting to launch the ball sure is annoying though!
Yeah it does that until you make or break the skill shot... the skill shot goes away after the pinging too if you take too long!
Ron when you first pointed out that hole out I kept thinking "Man, some drunk sure missed the placement of his glory hole".
I've had others suggest that :)
@Jack Headroom some people will pay extra for that 😂
There were dozens in the 70s and 80s that had safe lanes. Also if your ball went down the middle some machines you could bump hard in front and make your ball pop back in.
I've had a few where if it's moving fast enough it'll bounce off the apron back up onto the flippers :)
I’ve seen one of these. I know what that’s for several several several several years ago I remember being dropped off at an arcade with my older sister back in 86/87 The place was called stumps. Kind of a backwoods rule area place in Tennessee. AnyWho they had something very similar to this to where you could plug this pipe fitting into that hole and it would extend it self out at a 90° angle for a small shelf. You could put your drink or beer or food or ashtray up there that way you have a place to set your stuff instead of sitting it down on the glass
That makes sense, we've been getting a few different answers but that one seems possible for sure :)
Fun times with X's and O's ! I always wondered if having more than 2 flippers was better? Was it useful ? Did it serve a specific purpose? Or just something to add to the play field? Either way fun to watch you play this. Heading to Vegas end of Feb and found out there's a Pinball Hall of Fame / Museum there. Do you know of it? Have u been to it? Going for like 4 days so I'll be dragging my buddies to this thing or I'll visit it alone.. I'm probably most excited about this than anything else! And I'm not ashamed to admit that. =) It's away from the strip but I looked it up and I'm beyond hyped to go spend some hours in there!
There's a lot of 3 flipper games that are fun and the third flipper adds a lot (there's probably dozens of 3 flipper games!). There's a few 4 flipper games where it makes sense (Jack in the Box is pretty good, etc.).... but yeah I prefer the 2 flipper ones usually.
Yup, I know about the hall of fame, I haven't been but that guy that runs it is kind of the grand father of Pinball Repair, he knows his stuff. Only thing is, he doesn't really like to talk to people, so if you go in don't bother the guy working on the games, he'll snap at you :)
Joe's Classic Video Games LOL thanks for the heads up! I’ll keep that in mind. Just kinda happy to be able to make it there and play a bunch of games for hours and hours! Was hoping to be able to have a long layover in Charlotte , i would have stopped by your place! Maybe next time!
Can you put a metal tube through it from side to side? I think it’s a really heavy way to stop tilting the table even a millimeter. The tube is then bolted to the ground, maybe several machines in a row.
You would think that but there's only 1 and it's sealed off inside. Looks like it was a key safe!
It's a "Key Safe" it's hard to explain but it's found in Germany, some parts in France and I think Netherlands tho not sure if it's like France and only found in different areas of the country.
Think of it as a Skeleton Key to access other keys...IDK how to explain it...
I think you're correct, that is what it is!
I was eyeing off this machine on your website.
Unfortunately shipping to Australia would be prohibitive on a pinball machine......
That pipe on the side looks like a security device some places use with multiple machines. They sometimes use a pole that ties the machines together
@Bob Toad Actually, if you're talking about arcade video games... no, they haven't banned those. Or pinball machines. They even have businesses that specialize in spare parts (Perth Arcade Machines, Just Pinball Sales, etc.) _Brendan was referring specifically to the cost of shipping a pinball machine to Australia. It would probably cost about $2,000 just for shipping._ So it isn't "can't get a pinball machine", it's "can't *afford* a pinball machine because of the cost of shipping".
Now, as far as computer and console games go... yes, they did ban some of those for a while, because until 2013 they didn't have an equivalent to the M (Mature) or AO (Adults Only) ratings. If it wasn't suitable for age 15 or under, then it was "denied classification", which is not the same as banning it, but it might as well be. A game that has been denied classification can't be sold. When they (finally, after much lobbying) added an AO classification in 2013, they went back and re-evaluated some of those older games that had previously been banned.
I've seen pinball machines being lifted for transport using holes like that ... but then again, those used four of them.
I can translate it for you dad 😊
Looks nice and it's sure fun to play, my favorite flipper was the Adam's Family flipper maybe you come across it one day I recommend you to play it's a load of fun. 👍👍👍👍👍
LOL
@@LyonsArcade no joke if you have something in German you want to or have to translate(I know Google translate su... s) pas it to me iam german🤜🤛
@@xyrzmxyzptlk1186 where is the fun? 😉
For some reason, the sound this thing makes after the last ball reminds me of _Why can't this be love_ by Van Halen...
Similar synthesizer effect...
Cheers,
Coolest keyboard ever in a Rock song!
Who designed the FABULOUS sounds in this game and then added that TERRIBLE annoying dinging?
As always, thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching doug, we appreciate it :)
love the sound effects
It had that great sound board in it!
I want the FIREPOWER machine next to it!
That's a good one :) Thanks for watching!
the hole is for the stick from the backglass. if someone gets too good you smack them on the head with it. ✨ pioneering 4D gaming tech 😄
That may be, i'll have to do further research!
I was wondering about the crazy futuristic sound of this game...
The story on the back panel has to be TIC TAC TOE through the ages...
So, the solitary “space dude” at the top has to be your “opponent’’ of the 80’s version of the future?
That makes sense to me.... I guess that was what they were going for!
Fantastic sound effects.
Bally's famous "Cheap Squeak" sound board!
@@LyonsArcade basically it's 8 bit sample rom player , some of the drone waves must have took lot of rom , fascinating how early pinball manufacturers integrated digital from mid 70s onward
That machine has some cool sounds.
Yeah the sound board they were using at the time was awesome!
I love the sound FX in this game. VERY 80s!
Bally's "Cheap Squeak" sound board!
Nice machine i have play this x&o few times my friend have one 👍
Thanks for watching Danijel, we appreciate it!
It's got some pretty cool sound effects.
yeah it had Bally's cool sound board :)
The arcade where I grew up had several tables with holes like these. I always figured it had something to do with moving them.
So destructive, you'd think they'd come up with a better way!
i love that 80's Synthwave the Pinball machine has
Yeah I love all the old pinball music, very cool sounding, always sounds like it's a product of it's time... if you get a chance check out one called Gottlieb Rock that we did on our channel here, it had some really cool synth stuff in it.
@@LyonsArcade you almost just want to leave the ball on the flipper just to enjoy the sound lol
That's the kind of pinball game that is specifically designed to eat the customer's quarters.
I first played this game in November of 1983 on my 11th Birthday at an Aladdin's Castle. I know that the pinball database states it was made in 1984. so I am a bit confused. Not unless they do the years like they do new cars.
Paul they are probably simply wrong about that date, if you played it I know you have a very good memory, so I don't doubt you played it in 1983. Also if you look on the flyer it has a date of 1983: www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=2822&picno=4137&zoom=1
If you look at the results of the designer Greg Kmiec on there, you can see that he generally designed one game a year... but they have him listed as releasing 3 games in 1984... so that's likely an error and X's and O's was out in late 1983.
No matter the real use the hole is a great place to rest your cigarette when playing. 😁👍
That's true, better than the coin return slot!
Oh God I’ve played that one. Hated it. In fact EVERY pinball I’ve played thats had that mechanic (was a much older one) you know Xs and Os I never cared for.
Side loving
The hole is the "o" part of X's and O's.
But in all seriousness, it might be a place to put a coin holder. Looks about the same size as a coin holder.
Looks like some believe it's definitely a key safe!
Could have for a side mount box for an electronic multiple coin acceptor because the acceptor wouldn't fit in the existing coin door. The would be for the harness connector to fit through. Also maybe for a ticket dispenser.
I think I've seen where they did some of the Jersey Jack machines like that for a ticket dispenser, didn't they?
@@LyonsArcade Some of the Gottlieb/Premier system 3 machines were like that for ticket dispensers. I've seen people cover those holes with either a hole plug for car radio roof mounted antennas or a dummy button for video game control panels.
It was a fence that went around all the pinball machines in a row so u couldn’t get to the back of the machines
Hi Ron - A request, if I may; I truly enjoy the the game demos you do for us (both pinball, and video), and I was wondering if you might consider, for the pinball demos, filming the gameplay with the playfield glass removed, so that the reflection of the backglass doesn't distract from the action. This may also afford you the opportunity to manually demonstrate certain features of the game(s), without having to rely on... let's go with luck... to activate a particular feature (By all means, when demonstrating actual gameplay, refrain from cheating in this manor). Thoughts?
I've thought about that and it's hard to find a good solution. There's 4 ways to do it and none of them are perfect because of the long nature of the playfield... you can film from directly above which takes a lot of rigging and is a p.i.t.a.... and then you have a bunch of dead space in the picture you have to fill with something else, or you can film it like I did with the glass on, in the dark which makes a reflection... or the glass on, with the lights on which I just don't really enjoy playing them like that, or I can take the glass off like you're suggesting but to be honest they are 0 fun to play like that because it messes the sound up. You can hear the flippers and all the coils fire much louder with the glass off and I just don't enjoy playing them that way....
I'm kind of test playing them when I play them, because usually we just finished them up for a customer or to go out the door so I like to play them kind of as they'll be played, glass on, everything buttoned up, the lights out, etc. but I understand it's not as good on video!
Thanks for watching, I'll see what I can come up with.
@@LyonsArcade Hmmm... Perhaps a compromise, then? I, for one, would enjoy a single game (or two) played with the lights on, glass off, to show an overview of the playfield in action, and again, allow you to manually activate/demonstrate certain switches/sequences, and then a 'normal' play demonstration, with the glass on/lights off. It's up to you, of course (since it's your channel, and all... :-) ), but you might consider trying this, and ask your viewers what they think. Just a thought... I'll keep watching either way... ;-)
It's glorious
Others have suggested that :)
Head phone jack for in the noisey arcades so you can hear your game play sound
Maybe!
Play however you wanna play Ron... no cheating the glass off for example... seeing you not get multi-ball on flight 2000 is a very funny video
a drink holder slides into it
Looks like it used to be for a lock barrel of some type
Yup we just can't figure out why they would do that....
I've seen these on pinball machines , we had a cinema with 4 in a row and it kinda stopped kids going to the back of the machines and stopped you tilting it, also they were all connected together with the end side bars curling back round to the wall like a hand rail.
That's interesting, I'd love to see a picture of that :)
Very interested in seeing this too
@@LyonsArcade It was 30 years ago I was about 14 then the place still exists but its been reused and gutted many times since, only memories I'm afraid.
Maybe the hole in the side was for a rod to connect the machines together so they didn’t move? Or as an anti theft measure?
could be!
Probably a mount for a beverage holder
Could be!
Yup bet they slid a smaller i.d. pipe in it and locked it to a wall. Is there anything on the back leg same side?
Nope, just the one!
@@LyonsArcade hmm.. mystery remains. Lol. By far better to leave it too. Repairing it would just leave more questions 30 years from now.
That backglass is kinda reminiscent of MAD MAGAZINE.
And how do I like that.
X X X & O O O
Mad Magazine, I wonder if they still print them? I always bought Cracked!
laptops have a thing called a "kensington lock" its a hole to attach an anti-theft chain. maybe the hole is to attach an anti-theft chain??
That could be, I think I've seen those on Laptops!
cool machine! love the gimmick, but the sfx seem totally wrong. but I'm bias, I still love my bells a thousand times more than sfx or beep-boops.
It's a safe for the pinball keys. We had the same safes in pinballs and gambling machines when I repaired them in the early nineties in the Netherlands. This safe uses an universal lock so we could access the pinball cabinet keys at different customers by using one universal key. Unfortunalely the locking part is missing with your pinball machine
Always go of midle and the ball make move strange in the down side of playfield, have magnet ¡?🤔
There wasn't a magnet but maybe the playfield was tilted???? :)
@@LyonsArcade or the ball drink much cofee¡?🤔
5:42 Space guy vaporized his opponent into a ball of mush...or is that smoke?
Maybe the machine used to be a bong?
The art kind of looks like they were high when they painted it :)
That hole was somebody's attempt at making a glory hole.. they didn't realize at the time you need another person on the other side of the glory hole for it to function properly.
35:24 Heyyy... we have (and certainly had in the past) our flaws, but we do not rig your pinball machines. Well... other than putting weird holes and metal dishes on one side. ;)
Why did the ball always move like it was being affected by magnets hidden in the board
Sometimes when it moves over the inserts if they're not completely flat it will make the ball move a little bit. Kind of depends on the game! Later of course some of them did have magnets in them.... thank you for watching J!
I’m looking to buy a pinball machine what are good ones to buy ?
Why does the playfield remind me of Mr. & Mrs. Pac-Man pinball??
It's that skill shot and the drop target setup...
Every one knows that hole is for the mouse that resets the pinball machine
I thought it was a ferret?????
Nope it’s definitely a mouse because the hole is too small for a ferret
Is that german writing KRUPP ESSEN ? (reference to famous Czech comedy duo V+W, thinking in one of their pre-war shows that can with KRUPP ESSEN on it is actually food - KRUPP ESSEN (eat groat in english, famous german weapon manufacturer Krupp from city Essen.
I'll check later to see if I can dechiper what it says :)
awww this machine ...never seen or played 1in reallife though,only emulated..thanks guys for the video x
Thanks for watching Hope, we appreciate it as usual!
Tried to us a strong magnet to keep the ball from going down the center. The ball came up so fast it broke the glass. Don't try this a home.
Don't do it! Get the weak magnets!!!!
@@LyonsArcade We liked the machines that would not tilt so easy. Some of them were very touchy. If you pushed on the flipper buttons to hard they would tilt. Of course this was the time before arcades, and most games were found in greasy spoons, calf's, and bars . Usually in the back next to restrooms. The junk box, and the cigarette were usually up front. I just had a nostalgia attack.
I remember in college some guys showed up to play one of my regular machines with a magnet. After they used it to rack up a bunch of free games they put it on top of the head. Sure enough they forgot about it and after playing a while it walked forward and landed right in the middle of the playfield. They took off really fast.
Please record in 1080p or even 4k. We need those detailssss. :)
This is recorded on a 1080p camera, at 1080p, but apparently it's not 1080p because it pops up on youtube as 720. I'm not really one to chase tech man, i'm going to just stick with the 1080p camera I'm already using. With all the complaints I'm likely going to cut back on the number of videos we record, we're getting non stop complaints from people about everything and it's just not worth the hassle.
It was meant as a request, not a complaint. Its a great video! We're just spoiled with high quality modern technology. :)
I love how you explained everything as well.
Magically on my phone it says 1080p is max but my tv only says 720p.
Hello Ron
i have since i was a child been in love with pinball but they are not that common where i live, iam thinking about at some point saving up the money for one.
my dream would be owning one or both of the Super Mario Bros machines, but right now iam thinking about maybe getting the star track one as it is a bit cheaper and easyer to find. what would you recommend as once first pinball machine.
And a bit about me iam a 29 year old electrical engineer / electrician, so i would not have a problem trobleshooting abit.
The Star Trek one is super fun, definitely a good first machine!
Hey have you ever heard of a game called Meta Fox? Lemme know if you ever have one for sale, I wouldn't mind picking it up. Also just realized I grew up pretty close to you in Kannapolis, small world
I've been to Kannapolis many times, good people up there :) I've never even heard of Meta Fox, sorry!
2nd like for ya Joe 👍
Thanks Old Nerd, I'll bet you're not so old, and not so nerdy :) You seem like a good guy to me :)
@@LyonsArcade 😀 Glad to hear that my man, maybe i just feel old 😀
You welcome 😉
"I Feel This GAME IS mOCKING ME" lo!
It seemed very intentional!
drink holder , customize ( someone made that).
Possibly!
My cousin has a data east Batman
Very cool game :)
im assuming a bar would go through it and another pinball machine to keep them locked together for security or no tilting
The sleeve on that hole is closed, there is no way a rod can pass through it. Plus there isn't one on the other side. I'd love to know what it's for though.
I was stationed in Germany from 85 to 89 the hole was used to put a pipe that loosely linked machines to each other making them harder to bump. the germans did not like it. When we bumped the machines they called it cheating and that it potentially broke the machines.
OK thank you for the info, that sounds interesting....
@@LyonsArcade Mucholocodawg's story reminds me of a pinball machine that we had in the student center at the university I attended. I discovered that the tilt sensor had been disconnected, so you could just pick up the whole front of the machine to keep the ball from going down the drain, or even score millions of points without ever using the flippers. Of course, your arms would get tired after a while, and there was always the risk that someone from campus security might saunter past... (and I always worried about the extra stress being put on the back legs of the machine, which is why I never took advantage of it.)
Its for the key to open up the machine, hopefully its still in there, if not it might be hanging inside the coin box if u can access to open it...
So if its a key safe, anyone with the simple key that allowed access could open any machine in the country....lol......Great idea.....I think not.
Yeah that's what I still haven't got, why would it be any more safe to have 1 key for the safe, lol They're saying instead of putting the same key on each game, it's safer to put the same key on each safe, or the one safe, that if you get in you now have the key to every game. It's not even an extra step, it's still if you find one key or pick one lock you get into everything...
@@LyonsArcade That's why they used cylinder locks on the key safes. You can't just go down to one of those "minuteKEY" self-service key-duplicating machines like you see in Wal-Mart and get a copy made... the machine isn't equipped for cylinder keys.
These guys look like British politicians, and our Prime Minister is at the back.
I've seen some of those guys!
Cigar Holder?
Possibly!
i hear super mario world in the background
Good ear :)
@@LyonsArcade and i see a large M behind you
On the Gauselmann website there is a picture of their key safe. Looks like it could be it. www.gauselmann.de/Downloads/Kurzportraet-Gauselmann-Group-2019-E.pdf
I think that's definitely what this is!
I wonder if its for better bass sound. It seem to me there was another game that had that type of thing with a tube on the inside.
That was my first thought but it's solid inside, there's no hole all the way through the pipe!
Drunk mouse is too funny. Too bad we cant have images like that on good things anymore cause of society nowadays
Everything's got to be focus group tested, they never let people get a little blue humour going anymore :)
You have everthing? Hehehe
I've got a lot of things!
If you upload an Image of the german writing, I can translate for you
I'll see if I can find something later :)
Cigarette holder
Could be :) Thanks for watching Killi!
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Awesome machine! Is the hole just some place to fit a handle for transit? 👍😎🤔
Possibly, not sure!
Donkey not a horse. Ears are too long for a horse.
That makes sense, reminds me of Pinocchio :)
likely anti tipping mount, probably connected it to a wall or another machine.
Perhaps it was!
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Unfortunately I don't have one right now, maybe some day!