History's Worst Air Disasters

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  • @Sideprojects
    @Sideprojects  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

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  • @jeffersonott4357
    @jeffersonott4357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    Very touching the way Simon spoke of the Alaska air pilots. Well done.

    • @Gadzooki
      @Gadzooki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Those guys, even considering how things ended, are heros. They never gave up. Brave fellows just trying to get everyone down.

    • @davidioanhedges
      @davidioanhedges 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      When they tried everything up to and including flying the plane upside down ... and it nearly worked!
      ..if there had been a way of saving anyone they probably would have tried it ...

    • @garylefevers
      @garylefevers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True. Those pilots were almost superhuman in their efforts. Hero's for sure.

    • @paradigmlawrence7506
      @paradigmlawrence7506 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another note about the pilots herosim is how they declined overland landing vectors into LAX, not willing to risk coming down over populated Los Angeles Angeles

  • @Bubbaist
    @Bubbaist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    One of the survivors of the Tenerife disaster, E. Jack Ridout, had a round-trip ticket from San Diego to Los Angeles the weekend of September 23 - 24, 1978, leaving Friday and returning Monday, September 25. There was a record-setting heat wave that weekend. He was staying with a friend, but his friend's air-conditioning was broken. After a sleepless Saturday night, he changed his ticket to return Sunday night. The next day he awoke to find that the fight he was supposed to be on, PSA 182, had crashed into a neighborhood in San Diego, killing everyone on board and seven people on the ground. It was the US's worst air disaster at the time. If that wasn't enough, he had earlier been drafted into the Vietnam war, but was hit by a drunk driver and by the time he was well enough to serve, the draft was over. His story might make an interesting episode or segment of one.

    • @rubycelica
      @rubycelica 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      the male violet jessop it seems:)

    • @nmxsanchez
      @nmxsanchez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Wow. And I thought I had a bad day.

    • @Amlaeuxrai
      @Amlaeuxrai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I mean to be fair, at least he didn't have to go to Nam

    • @MrDannyboyhall
      @MrDannyboyhall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Seems like someone really wanted that poor guy dead he didn’t fear the reaper obviously 😂 but seriously that story would be great

    • @Nostripe361
      @Nostripe361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@MrDannyboyhall reminds me of that funny tweet where a woman was bragging about how god must have a plan for her after surviving multiple near death experiences.
      Someone replied to her that it sounded like he was trying to kill her.

  • @mytech6779
    @mytech6779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    You were very diplomatic regarding Tenerif. I had to research it as part of my aviation degree, and that KLM pilot was a total dikk. he didn't just takeoff without clearance he was the cause of the delay that put everyone in the fog and that had him in a such a rush to meet certain crew duty time limits. He parked in a way that blocked all the other aircraft so nobody could takeoff then he let all of his passengers off, then waited for them to all re-board before even bothering to call for the fuel trucks, by this time other planes were getting cleared to finish their flights. The weather was still favorable, but nobody could make use of it for the next half an hour because somebody had been conducting himself with total disregard for his affect on other people.
    Also the airport traffic controllers did not meet today's aviation language requirements so there was substantial communication trouble. In addition to causing many other operational changes in the industry, this event was a direct motivation for today's international language requirements and testing standards for all air traffic controllers and commercial pilots. (At least for those countries that are parties to ICAO, there are a few airlines that simply are not allowed to fly into or over the USA or EU because they don't bother to meet standards.)

    • @antman5474
      @antman5474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I heard somewhere that although the KLM captain was KLM's chief pilot, in the months leading up the accident had spent most of his time teaching other pilots in the simulator, he knew how to fly the plane perfectly well it's just that his airport etiquette was a little rusty.

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@antman5474 "A little rusty"

    • @MarloSoBalJr
      @MarloSoBalJr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@antman5474 Using the word "rusty" is indicative to rust. At least rust try to indicate to you that something is bound to go wrong

  • @lizc6393
    @lizc6393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    It didn't save them, but the flip those Alaska pilots pulled was straight up badass.
    Also, it's a small comfort but at least the Air New Zealand flight had no idea what hit them. Just boom, and lights out.

    • @NDRogueElf
      @NDRogueElf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      And good on the people who kept calling for further inquiry on the Air New Zealand flight. For so many years that pilot’s name was besmirched when in fact he had done everything he could to prepare ahead. Reading the details how blame was shifted onto a person who couldn’t defend himself is infuriating.

    • @lizc6393
      @lizc6393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@NDRogueElf Yeah that's infuriating even if it had been his oversight.

    • @kyleeshachamberlain5378
      @kyleeshachamberlain5378 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lizc6393 was not over sight. i suggest you do more research, but basically the flightplan in the plane computers was changed overnight and it was wrong and headed them straight into the mountain, none of the crew were aware that the flightplans had been changed, the bosses at air new zealand spent the night after the crash shredding all information in regards to the change

  • @amb163
    @amb163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Hearing the first story with the Pan Am and KLM planes, and the small regional airport having to manage traffic it wasn't meant to, makes me even more grateful that the situation in Gander, Newfoundland on 9/11 went so well.

    • @DebTheDevastator
      @DebTheDevastator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If you want a more in depth overview of this incident Black Box Down does a great job. It explains the failure of the crews, airport, and airlines. They also talk more about how they implemented the recommendations.

    • @davidioanhedges
      @davidioanhedges 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Air safety is safety done right... it does not assign blame and move on, it looks at what went wrong, why the existing systems didn't prevent it and puts in place solutions to try and prevent it happening again ... and the general policy of not blaming, and air accident investigators having draconian powers to shut down entire airlines, airports, or entire fleets of planes means investigations get results quickly

    • @Tirani2
      @Tirani2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've watched several specials on the air traffic controllers that handled the Gander situation. They all had Tenerife in the back of their head while they were doing their work. They knew how bad it could be.

  • @KarlBarbosa
    @KarlBarbosa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Really surprised Japan Air Flight 123 didn't make this list. Aside from being the worst single plane crash of all time, it was rendered especially tragic due to the fact that rescue teams waited until the next morning to check for survivors. There were in fact survivors due to the tail impacting the ground much slower than the rest of the plane ... but most of those died overnight crying for help.

  • @ignitionfrn2223
    @ignitionfrn2223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    1:10 - Chapter 1 - Tenerife airport disaster
    6:00 - Mid roll ads
    7:20 - Chapter 2 - Alaska airlines flight 261
    10:15 - Chapter 3 - Mont erebus disaster
    13:20 - Chapter 4 - The palomares incident
    15:50 - Chapter 5 - Work in progress

    • @Joze1090
      @Joze1090 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neato

  • @stevenelson1239
    @stevenelson1239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    15:50 Airplanes are the safest way to fly? Wholeheartedly agree with that statement!

    • @disorganizedorg
      @disorganizedorg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I certainly can't argue with that...

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you 100% that hot air balloons don't have the safety record when measured in total man-hours flown vs deaths?

    • @codymoe4986
      @codymoe4986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've invented a new fangled contraption I lovingly refer to as a "helicopter".
      Slightly more difficult to fly though, hope that doesn't come back to bite me....

  • @user-dg9pu4pe9d
    @user-dg9pu4pe9d 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    There was a flight where one of the cockpit windows popped out. The pilot was mostly sucked out of the plane. Several stewards managed to hang on to the captain while the copilot landed. Amazingly, no one died.
    British Airways flight 5390

    • @readycheddar
      @readycheddar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I heard about this. I think the pilot lost some fingers and part of his nose due to frostbite from his time outside of the plane. They thought he was dead when they managed to pull him back in.

    • @dashdriverdan
      @dashdriverdan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A similar event happened with Sichuan Airlines 8633 a few years ago. The right windshield failed and the FO was partially aspirated from the plane, pushing on the controls and causing a momentary loss of control. Only his loosened lap belt kept him in. That said, the FO was able to get back in a bit quicker than in the case of British Airways.
      The windshield failure was linked to weakening of the panel due to electrical arcing in the heating elements. Since then the Airbus 320 Quick Reference Handbook for any cracked windshield specifies that both crew must don their full harness immediately.

    • @ruthmeow4262
      @ruthmeow4262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@readycheddar No, he just had some bumps, lacerations and dislocations. He was back in the air six months later and flew until he retired.

  • @stevenboykin116
    @stevenboykin116 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought of a suggestion, I watch the Vin Wiki channel on TH-cam sometimes and they have a lot of videos on Cannonballers, those guys that run across the US coast to coast as fast as they can. I thought that would make a good sideproject video as it is literally a side project for some of those guys. They have to get the right car that's fast enough, get the right fuel setup, plan their route, set the car up with the right police protection, call up people who'll scan the road ahead even get people to speed ahead of them to run as a blocker. They've paid each others speeding tickets to keep the cops busy. One record holder hired a plane to scout traffic ahead. These guys go all out. I think the current New York to LA time is 26 hours and 38 minutes that was April of 2020 during the pandemic, but prepandemic the time was 27 hours and 25 minutes, I'm not sure if they count that pandemic run it seems like an unfair advantage to me.

  • @ThexMJT
    @ThexMJT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The Tenerife crash still gives me shivers, imagine seeing a 747 appearing out of the dense fog.

  • @chrisrutherfurd9338
    @chrisrutherfurd9338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My dad was a flight engineer on the Air New Zealand DC 10 and knew all the crew on 901. He even met with them in the debrief crew lounge in Auckland that morning, as he flew to Australia watched the Erebus bound flight taxi down the runway. We were just kids and watched the news come in while dad was away (not knowing at the time just where he was!).

  • @the-chillian
    @the-chillian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    15:50 -- Yes, Simon. Airplanes are one of the safest ways to fly. Last time I tried flying without one, I broke both legs.

    • @TracyH13
      @TracyH13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂

    • @phforNZ
      @phforNZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steve, is that you?

    • @BleachDemon707
      @BleachDemon707 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ...stupid.
      NOTICE ME, SENPAI 🙄
      Parasocial, much?

  • @simonwyndham
    @simonwyndham 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mentour Pilot has an absolutely superb dissection of the Tenerife disaster on his channel. A lot of factors at work.

  • @ZAV1944
    @ZAV1944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The Submersible DSV Alvin was used to locate the Hydrogen Bomb from Palomares Incident, Alvin later gained international fame for her exploration of the Titanic and as of 2021she's still in active service.

  • @Old_B52H_Gunner
    @Old_B52H_Gunner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Seeing that B52 crash footage at 0:51 is painful for me every time I see it.
    I was a Gunner on the B52 back in the 80s so there is that, but I also knew 2 of the people on the aircraft when it crashed. The flight was practice for a flyover during a base celebration.
    The really sad part is that the pilot was doing maneuvers that he was told not to do, and had been in trouble before for doing the same thing, he should not have been allowed to even fly during this event due to his prior actions.

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The KLM pilot for Tenerife was also being a jackass on the runway.
      Egomaniac pilots kill.

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Yes this is a perfect example of two pieces of matter trying to occupy the same space. It's also a lesson in cockpit etiquette. How most of these guys use to be ex-military and they ran their cockpits like it. Now they encouraged the co-pilot if the pilot is screwing up say something about it.

    • @Chloe-ch6mc
      @Chloe-ch6mc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They also encourage cabin crew to speak up if something happens that is deemed not normal to them! Since they walk around the cabin and can inspect the wings and engines routinely in flight, they could be the first to notice an issue

    • @vipvip-tf9rw
      @vipvip-tf9rw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Chloe-ch6mc no the first to notice would be passangers that sits close to windows

    • @davidioanhedges
      @davidioanhedges 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@vipvip-tf9rw ..and then point it out to the cabin crew, who will know if it's unusual and report it to the rest of the crew

    • @readycheddar
      @readycheddar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indeed. A lot of air crashes happened because the pilot was being arrogant and not listening to anyone and the co-pilot being too timid to say anything.

    • @johnstreet819
      @johnstreet819 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      C R M is good

  • @andessmf
    @andessmf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The ATC recording of the pilots watching the Alaska airplane hit the water brings tears to my eyes.

  • @jstorlie73
    @jstorlie73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Hi Simon, have you heard of United flight 811, the 747 that had the cargo door ripped off the plane in flight? it's an amazing story that is worth a video.

    • @RailwayDan
      @RailwayDan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Combine the 747 video with the Aloha 737 that lost its roof. Both happened near Hawaii, both Boeings and both, I believe, were due to corrosion. Oh, and they both landed.

    • @RailwayDan
      @RailwayDan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Tom Foster I remember the pictures. A very strange sight. Those passengers are amongst the luckiest people alive. I think they lost an FA who wasn't strapped in.

    • @flexinclouds
      @flexinclouds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RailwayDan Damn can you imagine what that was like for the FA?

    • @RailwayDan
      @RailwayDan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@flexinclouds It doesn't bear thinking about. 25000 ft fall !! Horrible way to go.

  • @Shauma_llama
    @Shauma_llama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I read the title as "Worst Art Disasters", thought "this should be funny", expecting a humorous video capped off by the Jesus mural in Spain being "restored".

    • @atomicdeath10
      @atomicdeath10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Interesting video subject...

  • @bysshe51
    @bysshe51 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Lol, 15:52: “airplanes are statistically one of the safest ways to fly”. Well yes. Compared to ballooning, rocketry, getting shot out of a cannon and other methods of flight.

    • @davidioanhedges
      @davidioanhedges 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's the second safest method of transport, only behind elevators ...

    • @solarsailor55
      @solarsailor55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or a broomstick piloted by a witch.

    • @codymoe4986
      @codymoe4986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's time helicopters finally carry passengers!
      RIP Kobe....

  • @angmori172
    @angmori172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Simon: "Flying is the safest way of travel, now let me make sure none of you listeners ever dare set foot in a plane again"

  • @Hammerhead547
    @Hammerhead547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Fun Fact:
    The worst mass murder ever to take place on canadian soil happened in 1947.
    The crime in question was the bombing of a Canadian Pacific Airlines DC3 carrying 51 people that had just departed from montreal, the bombing was part of an insurance scam masterminded by Albert Guay and his mistress with assistance from her brother.
    The dynamite time bomb used to destroy the plane was hidden in a package that was delivered to to the plane by albert's mistress.
    All three conspirators were arrseted charges and convicted of malice murder and sentenced to death, the mistress would go down in history as the last woman to die on the gallows in canada when she was hung at montreal's Bordeaux Prison in january 1952.

    • @JohnDrummondPhoto
      @JohnDrummondPhoto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think Simon actually covered that story on one of his other channels. Maybe "Casual Criminalist."

  • @batticusmanacleas510
    @batticusmanacleas510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Airplanes are statistically one of the safest ways to fly." Well you're not wrong, Factimus Prime.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but at least there's no crying babies in cannons.

    • @antman5474
      @antman5474 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or squirrels in catapults.

  • @krymera666x7
    @krymera666x7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    After doing recovery of Swiss Air I really have no fear of flying as I know it’s a brutal quick end. A peaceful eternity to those lost.

    • @lizc6393
      @lizc6393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same here, but my friends say I'm morbid for it. Like, 30 seconds of crippling terror, then lights out. Better than so, so many deaths.

    • @waltblackadar4690
      @waltblackadar4690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't have a fear of flying but don't think it's a quick end. There have been accidents that took many minutes to resolve, meaning the final minutes of those pax were terror-filled. There's also crashes on mountainsides where rescue crews were unable to get there for many hours, meaning pax either died of injuries or exposure.

    • @chiefslinginbeef3641
      @chiefslinginbeef3641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@waltblackadar4690 Pax? What is this the new pronouns in my bio word for passengers?

    • @Hammerhead547
      @Hammerhead547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@waltblackadar4690
      In the case of the passengers on Swiss Air 111 chances are that they were either unconscious or dead long before the plane hit the water in much the same way that the passengers and crew of South African Airlines flight 295 were almost certainly dead of carbon monoxide poisoning long before that plane belly flopped into the indian ocean.

    • @Parc_Ferme
      @Parc_Ferme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saudia 163 send regards.

  • @qienna6677
    @qienna6677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As soon as you said New Zealand and Antarctica I knew exactly what you were going to talk about. Every New Zealander learns about the disaster in school and a full apology from the NZ government wasn't issued to the families of those who died until the 40 year anniversary of the disaster.

  • @terp2726
    @terp2726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    FWIW, at time 7:47 I think you meant to say they were flying over the Pacific Ocean not the Atlantic. I suppose they could have been taking the long way round but somehow I doubt that. :)

    • @owenshebbeare2999
      @owenshebbeare2999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Americans...geography confuses them.

    • @terp2726
      @terp2726 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@owenshebbeare2999 Pretty sure it was just a slip of the tongue and also pretty sure he's not American - at least not by birth.

    • @MarloSoBalJr
      @MarloSoBalJr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@owenshebbeare2999 Simon is British,mate

  • @FluidKaos
    @FluidKaos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    They must have been taking a very long detour to be over the Atlantic Ocean on a route from Puerto Vallarta to San Francisco!

    • @lisacheney7904
      @lisacheney7904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Someone skipped the proof read... But the reason they were over the Pacific ocean was that the pilots deliberately diverted over the open ocean while fighting for control so that they wouldn't crash into a populated area. Air Disasters did an episode on this and it is heartbreaking.

    • @slidewaze
      @slidewaze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He also mentions at 15:50 that "Airplanes are statistically one of the safest way to fly" still, Simon rules....

  • @kepanoid
    @kepanoid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Simon, a small correction: Those people who sit in the cockpit are the flight crew. Cabin crew are those who take care of us and make sure we are safe in the... cabin. Yes, they also serve coffee and take all the complaints, but that's only one part of their job. Together, both groups are "the crew".

    • @owenshebbeare2999
      @owenshebbeare2999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Blame the scripting.

    • @kepanoid
      @kepanoid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Patrick Hudson Is it, though? Think about doctors and nurses. Yes, most people think doctors are somewhat more valuable, or "professional", than nurses, but that's not the case, as it's not in aviation either. Both groups together form a working crew, but you wouldn't want to be confused about their different roles (neither would professionals in either group). I'm not trying to be pedantic, rather I'm trying to encourage the Fact Boi (or his writers) to perform even better.

  • @Happymali10
    @Happymali10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Crew Resource Management was a major consequence of the Teneriffe disaster. Van Zanten wasn't just the captain of that flight, he was THE BEST MAN KLM HAD.
    Like, they used him for advertising and for training. In fact, when news of the accident reached KLM they wanted to call him to get him on the investigative team before they figured out that he was dead.

    • @MarloSoBalJr
      @MarloSoBalJr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...and that's where giving someone too much game & lineacy can bite you in the arse

  • @ljphoenix4341
    @ljphoenix4341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember learning about the Mount Erebus disaster back in high school, but I had no idea the wreckage was still visible during parts of the year. A very interesting video, thanks Simon and team.

  • @readycheddar
    @readycheddar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish this video had been longer. There are SO many air disasters, you could fill several hours of content. Scary and terrible yet interesting stuff.

    • @bikeny
      @bikeny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should check out Mentour Pilot's channel. He has quite a few videos on the subject. One thing he points out a number of times is that crash / incident investigations are done not to assign blame, but rather to find out what happened so that it doesn't happen again.

  • @pbandj37
    @pbandj37 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Of note: Recovered from the Air New Zealand flight was a camera. The film was developed and the pictures turned out very clearly. You can search for them online.
    They are not pictures of the crash or anything gruesome but they are eerie. The people on board all look excited or happy and none of them knew what fate awaited them just minutes later.

  • @misterflibble6601
    @misterflibble6601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was 17 when the crash at Tenerife happened. I still have vivid memories of the horror of it from the news coverage.

  • @clownbasher2911
    @clownbasher2911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The fact legend returns!

  • @garrisonandrew9862
    @garrisonandrew9862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like your uncle Simon sweater look for this one.

  • @comradeiosif2794
    @comradeiosif2794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In regards to the USAF losing nuclear bombs that occurred around 30 times (I think), but nobody knows how many nuclear bombs the Soviet Union lost. So sleep well tonight.

    • @MarloSoBalJr
      @MarloSoBalJr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Sergei! There's a large bulge in the garden."
      "Calm yourself Svitlana. That's just vodka bottle from last men night out"

  • @lazarusstewart8686
    @lazarusstewart8686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Okay just hilarious observation. In one of the final sentences Simon says " airplanes are the safest way to fly! " I agree wholeheartedly LOL

  • @chrisyanover1777
    @chrisyanover1777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Simon, a good video would be on all the times thermonuclear bombs were dropped on accident but didn't explode.

    • @yoeriw7099
      @yoeriw7099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You mean all the nukes America and Russia lost somewhere. Ow and France and Great Britain, lets not forget those

    • @chrisyanover1777
      @chrisyanover1777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yoeriw7099 Yesh that might be a very long video. It's scary how frequently it happened

    • @yoeriw7099
      @yoeriw7099 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisyanover1777 Yeah or the times WW3 was nearly started.

  • @DC4260Productions
    @DC4260Productions ปีที่แล้ว

    My Dad was a teenager in 1979, and he still remembers hearing news of Flight 901's crash when he was out camping with his friends.

  • @mbathroom1
    @mbathroom1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    last time I was this early, airplanes weren't invented

  • @guyorsini1044
    @guyorsini1044 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When going through training in any aviation discipline, be it as a pilot, maintenance technician dispatcher or ai traffic controller, all students are told very early on and reminded frequently that all the rules and regulations that they must adhere to are written in blood, other peoples blood.

  • @arashi32900
    @arashi32900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God, Alaska Airlines Flight 261 is just so unbelievably infuriating. All those people died, all because Alaska Airlines didn't want to spend what was the equivalent of a fucking cup of coffee to properly oil the jackscrew.

  • @JohnDrummondPhoto
    @JohnDrummondPhoto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I grew up in a Queens, NY neighborhood about 5 miles away from JFK International Airport. On June 24, 1975 at 4:05 PM, I was walking down the block towards home after college classes when I heard what I thought was an extended rumble of distant thunder. This confused me as, while the skies were threatening, there were no apparent thunderhead clouds in the vicinity. Within a half hour, I learned that I had actually heard the crash of Eastern Airlines Flight 66 as it was about to land at JFK. 113 of the 124 people on board died, making it the deadliest crash in US aviation history at the time. Ambulance sirens wailed eerily in the distance for hours afterwards.
    The accident was ultimately found to have been caused by severe vertical wind shear, which itself was the result of a previously unknown storm phenomenon now called a downburst. The FAA developed and installed upgraded weather detection systems across the country after that.

  • @krayzeejojo
    @krayzeejojo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simon, you are still one of the greatest edutainters ever! Keep ‘em coming,

  • @warrenjohnknight.9831
    @warrenjohnknight.9831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was just leaving home at 0330 hrs too go to work as a milkman, the news was that the DC 10 had crashed, a married couple lived just around from where I lived, it's still a controversial accident today plus the memorial has sadly been fought over to this day, we have had a number of disasters over the years but this definitely has been the most controversial.

  • @radders261
    @radders261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was bloody brilliant!
    Would love to see a video on spaghetti junction.

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @captbart3185
    @captbart3185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A fact known to most in the business is that aviation safety is built on a foundation of tombstones. Always was and always will be so. “It hasn’t killed anyone yet” was actually said (NOT by me!) in a NASA safety meeting prior to a flight!

  • @jphilb
    @jphilb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mentor Pilot has some very detailed videos on a lot of these incidents.

  • @blankseventydrei
    @blankseventydrei 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what simon left out for the Alaska story was the safety inspector for Alasks airlnes required that Jackscrew to be replaced and it showed wear and was past it usage timeframe and was overruled by a beancounter, Alaska was cost cutting everywhere. when the plane crashed, he had detail notes on that plane and gave them to the FAA/FBI during the inspection, we was blackballed and was not able to find a job in the airline industry.

  • @PGar58
    @PGar58 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Every day there are fatal car crashes. So many everywhere they’re impossible to all reports. By contrast, airplanes are so safe that when there is an accident it’s a major news, and so it makes headlines.
    Not saying plane crashes are any more or less tragic, just why people may think airplane travel is less safe than it is.

    • @d2factotum
      @d2factotum 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, the reason plane crashes also make the news is that they often kill more people. Sure, there aren't as many of them so you're more likely to die in a car accident than in an aircraft, but I don't think even the biggest road pile-up is going to kill 500+ people at a stroke.

  • @xiro6
    @xiro6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    15:51 “Airplanes are, statistically, one of the safest ways to FLY” Simon Whistler, 2022.

    • @owenshebbeare2999
      @owenshebbeare2999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are. This is well-known information.

    • @xiro6
      @xiro6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@owenshebbeare2999 Of course, they are even one of the safest way to travel also, and trucks are one of the safest ways to trucking.
      Airplanes also make a WHOOSH sound when passing by over your head
      Let me edit it to highlight the word “FLY”.
      Now, will wait for some genius to tell me there are other aircrafts than airplanes.

    • @codymoe4986
      @codymoe4986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If a helicopter flys in the sky, and no one is around to hear it, does it still make that whooshing sound?
      P.S. I wonder if travel by helicopter is safer or more risky than travel by airplane, if we are to assume they are flying, of course...

    • @xiro6
      @xiro6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@codymoe4986 Helicopters don't fly, they are just repelled from the surface. They are specially designed for really hot people, because propellers and blades are meant to cool down the pilots.
      That's why as soon as the engine stops, you can see the pilot starting to sweat.
      About your question, you must have a point there, because my radio-controlled helicopters make that sound, but the further away, the lesser the sound while full scale helicopters, becuase they have people inside, make a lot of noise at the same distance. I will take a deeper look at it after i finish my study about the red shifting of light with the distance. I found a highway here where I noticed that the incoming traffic lights are white, and they shift to red after passing me and go away.
      Science is exact and predictable, unlike those freaking helos.

  • @CashelOConnolly
    @CashelOConnolly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve got tickets to fly home to Ireland on Monday. I’m scared of flying. After watching this I guess I’ll need more tranquillisers and a few more litres of Guinness before getting on the plane😳🇮🇪

    • @ExperimentIV
      @ExperimentIV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hey, hope you made it home without too much anxiety. also, if you want to know, flying is really safe. even if something did go wrong, chances are you wouldn’t crash. emergency landings usually land fine. even if you did crash, there’s a very good chance you would survive. this is something i know after doing a lot of research on crashes and survival rates. i hope the knowledge of how safe flying is brings you some peace.

    • @CashelOConnolly
      @CashelOConnolly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ExperimentIV I did thank you. I know it’s irrational but I guess phobias by definition are. Without all that booze and diazepam in me I flew higher than the plane did! I think from now on I’m either going to go by ship or stay at home. I might get therapy for it,I hear that helps a lot of people
      Peace and happiness from Dublin Eire 🇮🇪

  • @blairm3683
    @blairm3683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would agree that " aeroplanes are one of the safest ways to fly" compared to the other options , hang on what other options??? LOL

  • @Allen0037
    @Allen0037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My uncle was Captn Victor Grubbs, the PanAm pilot.

  • @jaydeister9305
    @jaydeister9305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time i've heard of the b-52 + aerial tanker air collision (with 4 nucs lost).

  • @ceooflovingthehomies9294
    @ceooflovingthehomies9294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree Simon. Airplanes are “the safest way to fly”

    • @AtheistOrphan
      @AtheistOrphan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. I injured myself quite badly try other methods.

  • @ryanpayne7707
    @ryanpayne7707 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    FYI:
    -Cabin crew refers to flight attendents. The pilots and the now outmoded flight engineers and navigators are/were flight crew.
    -Its "MD-83," not M-D83
    -You're fairly good at using the correct terminology. The stabilizers on a plane are the fixed structures on the tail. The vertical and horizontal stabilizers hold the rudder and elevator, respectively. For the Alaska Airlines flight, the elevator jammed- its physically impossible for the horizontal stabilizer to jam as its not a moving part.
    I'm a student pilot, aviation buff, Southwest Airlines ramp agent, and Civil Air Patrol aerospace education officer. If you'd like, I'd be more than happy to help answer any aviation questions you may have in the future.

  • @ronshouse4205
    @ronshouse4205 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At the :51 second mark is the B-52 that crashed at Fairchild AFB, WA in 1994. The pilot had a reputation as being a hot-dog, often flying out of established flight parameters for that aircraft. Several pilots/crew in his squadron didn't want to fly missions with him. An airshow was coming up, and there was going to be a B-52 demonstration, so they put together a practice mission the day prior to the show...due to the concerns raised by other pilots, the vice wing commander and the squadron commander were part of the flight to monitor the pilot's behavior.....think there might have been one or two more observers above the normal crew) Anyway, despite the presence of the observers, he pushed the plane out of its envelope, went into a stall and then spun in. Totally pilot error, no mechanical problems involved.
    The worst part of this incident was it was the last flight for the vice wing commander, a "fini flight".....his wife, kids, and several members of his extended family were all gathered to celebrate his last career flight in the USAF and had a front row seat to the horror.

  • @coreywebb1575
    @coreywebb1575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You ought to teach a class on productivity

    • @lizc6393
      @lizc6393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm convinced he's found a glitch in space-time and is using it to produce impossible hours of content.

  • @glennelliott708
    @glennelliott708 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am sure it has been noted before, 7:50 Puerto Vallarta to SFran does not fly over the Atlantic. I was waiting in Reno that day for an Alaska Airlines flight with an identical plane that was scheduled to land and pick me up. When the plane landed the flight crew was grieve stricken. All Alaska planes of that type were grounded. Took 3 days to find a spare seat on United so as to leave Reno.

  • @ryans3109
    @ryans3109 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thank you. You could also discuss the 737 Max incidents.

    • @machupikachu1085
      @machupikachu1085 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are no 737 Max incidents - the airframe is perfectly safe. Nothing to see here. Move along...

  • @JPriz416
    @JPriz416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    as safe as air travel is every time my wife flies from Boston To Indiana and back with my granddaughter I'm a basket case. I'm not happy until she's on the ground. when I flying I'm ok.

  • @DColcla
    @DColcla ปีที่แล้ว

    Another interesting fact about the KLM/Pan Am accident. The KLM Captain was featured on the KLM magazine for that month and that edition was on that very aircraft.

  • @larchman4327
    @larchman4327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot Japan airlines flight 123 the worst single aircraft accident of all time.

    • @lisacheney7904
      @lisacheney7904 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And if you want extra bonus fury points cover the "rescue" efforts - I'm sure all the initial survivors who died of exposure in the 20 hours it took the Japanese rescue teams to reach them overland were glad they didn't owe their lives to the U.S. Marines who's rescue choppers had been trailing the aircraft and were onsite immediately after the crash.

  • @jessicawicks8453
    @jessicawicks8453 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the aviation content you do, I work in aviation so it’s cool to see which crashes I know.

  • @mangogo44
    @mangogo44 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    05:37
    *Cabin* crew are flight attendants, as they work in cabin. Pilots are *flight* crew/cockpit crew.
    Great video as always 👍

  • @thetowndrunk988
    @thetowndrunk988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 15:52, I think you meant to say one of the safest ways to travel, not safest ways to fly, seeing as they’re about the only way for us to fly. Get it right, Fact Boy!!!! 😬

  • @TheEvilCommenter
    @TheEvilCommenter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video 👍

  • @fraliexb
    @fraliexb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should do a top sport team related diaster.

  • @pretty-nickypeso59
    @pretty-nickypeso59 ปีที่แล้ว

    Air planes are the safest way to fly? As opposed to flapping your arms? Lolol. Great video as always

  • @TheStapleGunKid
    @TheStapleGunKid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ultimate irony about the Tenerife disaster is that the KLM pilot, Jacob Van Zanten, was considered the airline's best pilot at the time. He was widely featured in their advertising materials, and when KLM was first informed about the accident, the first thing they did was try to call him up so he could be assigned to their investigation team. It never occurred to them that he could be the one who caused the crash.

  • @bobbyd1077
    @bobbyd1077 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Smithsonian's Air Disasters slowly became one of my favorite shows ever.

  • @ScottBFree
    @ScottBFree 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    15:53
    “Airplanes are one of the safest ways to fly”
    -Simon Whistler.

  • @jonathanmatthews4774
    @jonathanmatthews4774 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do a side projects on:
    1) "almost" nuclear bomb accidents (such as the last one in this list). I know there was another incident in...Carolina I think...?
    2) "almost" air disasters but saved (Gimili glider, Hudson river flight which Denzel Washington made a movie about)

  • @randomgeocacher
    @randomgeocacher ปีที่แล้ว

    An important detail is that clearance language wasn’t standardized back then. Investigators didn’t even fully agree on exactly what the misunderstanding was that lead to the take off, two disagreeing reports. Clearance language has been standardized and clarified to reduce risks to todays air travel; everyone should know and agree on what an ATC clearance means today, instead of having to guess. Also read back; needing to state what you understood from the clearance - giving ATC opportunity to alert upon misunderstandings.

  • @derwindhund116
    @derwindhund116 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you considered doing a video on Broken Arrow incidents, its the code word given for nuclear accidents.
    There has been a large number of them over the last 70 plus years, with nuclear bombs falling from the bomb bays.
    There were two incidents at RAF Lakenheath here in the UK.

  • @z31drifterlf
    @z31drifterlf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Downloading to watch on my flight later today, cause I’m sick.

  • @colpul2103
    @colpul2103 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    15:45 "Airplanes are statistically one of the safest ways to fly"

  • @utahcoasterenthusiasts
    @utahcoasterenthusiasts 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 15:55 you said Airplanes are one of the safest ways to fly. This made me laugh. I'm sure you meant travel but it made me laugh and as how else could I fly lol.

  • @teng029
    @teng029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember hearing about the KLM/PanAm accident as a kid. I'd actually forgotten about it until this video. This is also the first time I've ever heard about what actually happened that day.

    • @bikeny
      @bikeny 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mentour Pilot did a video on the crash. th-cam.com/video/2d9B9RN5quA/w-d-xo.html

  • @BevelAesthetics
    @BevelAesthetics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simon did you really say “puerto vaLarta?!?” Lol double L mean it’s a “Y” sound lol

  • @macaylacayton2915
    @macaylacayton2915 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When he started talking about the Palomares incident I thought the Goldsboro b-52 incident that was really similar but occurred near Goldsboro, NC

  • @andvackur
    @andvackur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If anyone likes this video and wants more airplane disaster content, you should check out the Black Box Down Podcast!

  • @stevenwallace773
    @stevenwallace773 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Alaska Airlines one is literally the premise of the movie "Flight" with Denzel Washington 😮

  • @donei132
    @donei132 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was partially expecting the Bakers Creek and TAA Flight 538 crashes to be mentioned.

  • @jumpstrart7
    @jumpstrart7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll fly in an airplane no problem. Helicopters...F*** NO!!!

  • @DCS_World_Japan
    @DCS_World_Japan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Despite Tenerife clearly demonstrating the need for equality between senior and junior officers, Asian airlines still have this issue 45 years later.

  • @renata8979
    @renata8979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You would think that crashing into a mountain at full speed is al lethal as it can get, but surprisingly many people survived that. The most famous are, of course, the Andes survivors, the other one I know of is the Japan Air Lines Flight 123, but, inexplicably, the rescue operation has been delayed for hours, there have been extremely sad reports of passengers crying out during the night and getting quiet by morning, before anyone came for them. It is very difficult to make sense of these facts - that a collision with a mountain in midair can be survivable, while the Pan Am on Tenerife haven't even left the ground.

    • @DocuzanQuitomos
      @DocuzanQuitomos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The dynamics of the crash also play a role in survivability: Japan Airlines 123 didn't exactly crash head on with the side of a mountain, it disintegrated as it clipped trees and loss control before final impact. In the case of the Andes disaster, the plane tried to fly between a gap in the ridge it had ahead; the gap wasn't large enough to let the plane pass completely (that's why the wings were clipped) but it was wide enough to let a section of the fuselage fly through.
      In the case of Air New Zealand, it smashed at high speed against the side of the mountain and that's non survivable in every case (due to the sudden deceleration).

  • @pensepf49
    @pensepf49 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @michaelpipkin9942
    @michaelpipkin9942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been asking MegaProjects to cover The Thunderbirds.
    Their disaster was terrible.....

  • @8bitjimmy
    @8bitjimmy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Airplanes are one of the safest ways to fly." As opposed to... freefall? Flapping arms?

  • @tgmccoy1556
    @tgmccoy1556 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cockpit resource management. Not a truly new concept but the Tenefrie accident was
    the impetus to use the concept. A very old friend was slated to take the Alaska flight-but had a family emergency. "Fate is the Hunter."

  • @noelmcewen84
    @noelmcewen84 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    New video idea...the world's most notorious "broken arrow" events

  • @MrRandomcommentguy
    @MrRandomcommentguy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Let's take a DC-10 to Antarctica!" - yeah, that's about as smart as taking a lit flare to the gas station.

    • @DocuzanQuitomos
      @DocuzanQuitomos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not at all, while the DC-10 was involved in spectacular accidents, it's safety record wasn't worse than other planes of the time. And they had conducted several Antarctic flights the previous years (when the waypoints of the route had not been moved) without problems.

  • @friskyjesus
    @friskyjesus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me: *subscribed to all of Simons channels*
    “He’s gonna mention Tenerife…”

  • @damiensadventure
    @damiensadventure 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone clip that out of context. Simon just said "Made in Canaris" 😂
    The video is very good but props to the script writer for getting him to say NSFW things in a safe context. This would be worth gold In the BRAIN BLAZE community.

  • @EonArashi
    @EonArashi ปีที่แล้ว

    Everybody is snarking about “airplanes are statistically one of the safest ways to fly” and I’m just nodding, going “yes, helicopters are much worse”, lmao.