Eh, it was more the opposite. Not as bad as Hydlide but Dragon Quest was too basic and grindy when it released in the US. Final Fantasy would come along not much later in May 1990 and was a vastly superior game.
@@Belgand FF is a superior game, no argument there. There was still quite a lot of grinding involved. The one Dragon Quest game I’d put in par with Final Fantasy is DQ III.
I think DQ/DW is still the more influential game in the US JRPG culture. FF was a singular experience in the US until the SNES, while DQ/DW was an actual series with multiple entries.
@@joncarroll2040 Except too many of the DQ sequels came out late in the NES lifespan, after the SNES had already come out and rendered it a largely-ignored backwater. Even though DQ II came out before then I don't recall it getting much in the way of marketing or making much of an impact. Like a lot of games, they were released too late into the US market to be influential here the way they were in Japan.
@@Belgand Agreed. I love Dragon Quest, maybe even more than Final Fantasy, but I do agree it doesn't have the pull it does outside of Japan in spite of its general excellence.
I worked briefly at Nintendo in 2001 and I can attest they still had a decent pile of Dragon Warrior carts and promo material back then. At an internal sale I picked up one of the packets of tips and info they used to send with the game. Not that I needed it, I was one of the kids who fell in love with NES RPGs in 1989/1990 and can still play my way through by memory.
DQ1 still has one of my favorite endgames ever. After you kill the Dragonlord, you *can* just use a spell to hop across the river, back to the castle. Or... you can take a victory lap! All random encounters stop after you win, and every single NPC on the map gets new dialogue congratulating you on being awesome. Sure, the lines repeat a lot, but it feels SO GOOD after hours of grinding.
Count me in as one of those weird kids won over by the charms of Dragon Warrior. I was enthralled by the Nintendo Power coverage, and we absolutely got that free copy in the mail when dad renewed the yearly subscription, so I played the hell out of it. It's a simple game in retrospect, but to a little kid that loved video games and loved reading but had bad reflexes, this was quite possibly the best thing EVER. The people that I knew that didn't like Dragon Warrior (and other RPGs of the era) disliked all the reading and preferred games where they pushed a button and saw actions happen, but man, this game set me up for a lifetime of adoring crunchy RPGs of every possible sort. Bless.
I’m one of those weird kids too. There was just something about the music and presentation I absolutely fell in love with. TBRPGs have remained my favorite genre ever since.
I got the Dragon Warrior supplement in Nintendo Power and immediately went out and rented it. For 9-year-old me, the relatively small size wasn't really apparent, because there wasn't anything else out there to compare it against. I never actually owned the game: I beat it with friends, and by the time Nintendo gave away free copies three or four years later, I'd moved on from video games. One of my favorite games ever.
Totally. Dragon Warrior was the beginning of a long "journey" of loving the RPG genre. What began as Dragon Warrior, led to the original Final Fantasy, circuling back to Dragon Warrior 4, the Phantasy Star "trilogy" across the Sega Genesis entries, Knights of the Old Republic - yes, a far cry from the likes of Dragon Warrior - and finally ending with the likes of Revelations the Demon Slayer, Persona 3 and Persona 4.
I still remember when my mom surprised me in the living room with “Guess what? You randomly got a free game in the mail from Nintendo Power” I was so confused haha
That little bit of screen shake when you get hit does SO MUCH, especially in later games where you face groups of enemies. You see the screen shaking a lot, those little slimes are curb stomping your hero ass into the ground.
16:50 never saw an enemy encounter map quite like this. You can see the points where the game intends for you to get your ass kicked so you can hightail it out of there.
You're absolutely right about the screen shake. Along with the text turning red when you're badly hurt, these little nuances make things seem genuinely dire. All while this cute little sprite in the middle of the screen is smiling at you amidst it curb stomping your ass lol.
@@egocide9034 The red text also helps for those who were grinding for hours and probably started thinking about other things, it's an immediate *"DANGER, START PAYING ATTENTION"* Much better than Pokemon's constant beeping.
@@johnsimon8457 I'm fairly certain at least one NPC also cautions you that once you cross one of the bridges, you're in a new territory of much stronger monsters. It's really effective at setting mood. The NES Dragon Warrior games have a sense of dread and fear to them that the series lost over time.
@@BB-te8tc "you that once you cross one of the bridges, you're in a new territory of much stronger monsters" In the starting area of Final Fantasy II you can wander from the grassy fields into a swamp. And there you'll face enemies that you'd normally encounter in the second half of the game. It goes about as well as you'd think.
Since I didn't own a PC in the 80s, the free copy I got from my Nintendo Power subscription is what got me and my family interested in RPGs in the first place - we went on to buy the other 3 NES games, Final Fantasy, and a number of other lesser known titles (including Destiny of an Emperor and Ghost Lion, of all things). From that point on through the 90s, we picked up pretty much every SNES and Genesis RPG (some bought, some rented) and then proceeded to play both console and PC RPGs after that, even to today. Nintendo may have just been dumping excess stock, but I still thank them for introducing me to the genre all those years ago.
I received my copy as part of the Nintendo Power promotion, and I really liked the simplicity of Dragon Warrior. I want to say it arrived in my life the first year of junior high, which as a real jump in complexity for life to me. It was nice to have Dragon Warrior as a world to explore without ever expanding and changing rules like early adolescent had. I liked Dragon Warrior so much, I picked up the sequel. I heard about DWIII, but by the time it released; I think was about the time I took a break from video games for more 'teenager' stuff as I was expected to at the time.
That’s how I got it too, but I was like 8 or 9 so it did _nothing_ for me. At first. After a few years of neglect, I picked it up again after being bored with, idk, Bart vs the Space Mutants or something. That’s when I finally saw it how Jeremy described it, learning that you need to take your time, build up your gold and XP, get better at killing monsters, and _then_ you can proceed. Unfortunately, by the time I did get into it, the SNES was finally in my future, so I sold off my NES and everything and upgraded. But I did so with an appreciation for what became the massively popular genre it was in the ‘90s, all thanks to Dragon Warrior. I think I may need to revisit it soon, just for old times’ sake.
Gating progress through character growth, rather than plot, is one of the things I didn't realise I missed in RPGs until I played through the first three Dragon Quests (albeit in their modern Switch incarnations) over the pandemic. (I also love the way the second and third games tie back into the original!)
Dragon Warrior made me a huge RPG nerd. I still remember getting it on Christmas Eve and being completely sucked in to it while my parents had a Christmas party in the other room.
But Thou Must Go To Eurasia. Anyway, Dragon Warrior/Dragon Quest wasn't my favorite RPG, but it was as Horii and gang intended a starter for me to be the RPG-loving gamer I am today. I've been looking forward to this episode for a while, I feel like I owe Toriyama and Iwata both thanks for their efforts on this game that helped make me who I am. Dragon Warrior may be dead but Dragon Quest lives on, and I have enjoyed the journey it hath taken me on. Looking forward to the suffering of the triangle jump next time.
I remember my best friend borrowing this and I just bounced off it HARD as 10 year old me just didn't get a game where i was picking "fight" in a menu, etc. Later when I played Final Fantasy IV on SNES in middle school, RPGs finally clicked for me, so I went back and played the Dragon Warrior games with fresh eyes and was like "Hey... these games are awesome!"
I guess I assumed DW was more popular than it was. All of my friends were playing it at the time. I definitely wouldn't have the patience to spend hours grinding for gold now, but I do have fond memories. Thanks for bumping this one up.
i was learning to read while playing this one in 1993 or so. got it cheap at a garage sale and it had a late-game save from the previous owner that i treated with proper reverence for ages. you showed me the hero I could become, thank you "MARK GG". still have the map poster!
I started playing this BEFORE I could read. I just drew myself a little cheat sheet for what the commands were (basically making my own emojis). This game helped me learn to read faster than my older brother and I became a voracious reader as a kid because of it.
While maybe not my favorite Dragon Quest title (DQ8 reserves the honor), this was my introduction to turn-based RPGs as a child and I absolutely adored it, grind/difficulty and all. What an immense impact.. So much of my video game mentality and preferences are probably traceable to here. R.I.P. Akira Toriyama
I also adored it, even with the grind included. The grind honestly made this feel like an epic adventure. Thinking “Am I prepared enough for the next dungeon?” felt like a serious decision as a kid. When you finally clear the next area it felt like a real accomplishment because there was barely anything else quite like this at the time.
This was a foundational game for me as a young gamer in the eighties. I can remember getting the free cartridge in the mail with all of the booklets in the summer. I poured over the information daily, memorized all of the secrets, and explored every inch of Alefgard. I LOVE this game, and still revisit it today at least once a year. If it weren't for Dragon Warrior, I probably would not be as into video games as I am today. It is art!
I’m not very good at RPGs, but man Toriyama’s artwork was cool! Always loved the way he draws bigger monsters. They have this unique middle ground between amusingly cartoony and nightmarishly scary.
Thank you for this excellent video, Jeremy. May the Light shine on thee. For me, Dragon Warrior was one of those life-defining influences. It came out as I was starting middle school, and was a big part of the new friendships I made there. Toriyama's art heavily influenced my own. Dragon Warrior cemented my love of RPGs; and along with The Legend of Zelda and Final Fantasy, greatly inspired my fantasy world building throughout the years. I still have that wonderful Nintendo Power Dragon Warrior Strategy Guide: so well-used that it resembles an ancient manuscript. A relatively simple story and game; yet what a remarkable foundation it laid.
One of the coolest things the game did narratively was make saving the princess optional. If you beat the game without doing so, her loss is lamented in the end. Likewise, if you can avoid returning to the castle after saving her, you can defeat the dragon lord with her by your side. It's such a fun little flourish.
Awwwww, that easter egg at the very end was so nostalgic and unexpected, thanks. You truly did have one of the best sites on the ancient, original internet; one that was emblematic of the zeitgeist yet simultaneously very personal and original. I played DQ due to the free copy, and honestly didn't care much for it as a kid, especially considering that I feel like I had already played Final Fantasy 1 and genuinely liked it (release timing is fuzzy in my memory sorry), so DQ1 always felt like a big step down. But as a young teenager, after having become a JRPG fanatic, I did go back and play through it on cartridge, and also emulated and played the other three NES games and two SNES when that was possible in the mid-late 90's. Dragon Quest VI has always been one of my very favorite JRPGs, to the extent that the Silent Hill 2-like praise V receives has always gotten under my skin... a consequence of how strongly affected I am by aesthetics (and, the job system made it a waaaaay more interesting, replayable game). I wish I could agree with you about the DS localizations: of course the more accurate translation is welcome, but reading through all the regional dialects and accents was painful for me. I think it's because it feels like a distracting injection of real-world elements into a fantasy world. When taken to that extreme, at least.
The simplicity of this game does still make it a very good entry point into the increasingly robust RPG randomizer community. It’s very easy to track what you need to finish the game.
24:00 I love that they got artists to redraw the Troiyama art in the 80s I remember as a kid in the late 90s, my friends' parents bought him Dragon Warrior 3 remake on GBC because they thought it had something to do with the DBZ anime he watched and loved, its very funny to me how the DBZ connection became its selling point much later in the coming years as the anime grew here.
My understanding is that Sugiyama was a huge chess need and tech enthusiast, and Enix had made a cutting edge chess program that he fell in love with and wanted to be involved with moving forward
As much as the large scale regional narrative holds true, Dragon Warrior was sort of the Velvet Underground of the NES. Those of us who got it *really* got it. As my first exposure to turn-based RPGs, it definitely primed me to get heavily into D&D and other tabletop ones the following year.
When it was first released I LOVED Dragon Warrior. It didn't matter to me that the actual game itself was quite small and limited with the play time greatly padded through grinding. To me the the grinding was part of what I enjoyed in the game. The incremental nature of it was oddly satisfying and rewarding. For me Dragon Warrior was the primer for decades of JRPGs and grindy incremental type games which I still play to this day!
When I was very young, I attempted to play Wizardry and Bard's Tale but it was just too opaque for me to make any headway in those games at such a young age. This game gave me exactly what I needed and wanted at the time, an RPG stripped down to the basics, easily playable, and entertaining.
I'm one of those who didn't see the appeal back then. I got a cartridge for very cheap like most people and never played it for 15 years. Then I tried it, my first DQ game, and fell in love. DQ1 is one of my favorites with 3,5 and 8. I love it's minimalism. It's one of the purest games ever made.
I was one of the kids who received a free copy of Dragon Warrior from Nintendo Power. A $60 game for free was such a good deal I had my parents cancel my existing subscription and resubscribe so I could get it :) I did finish it eventually, the game was alright. I didn’t get into RPGs in earnest until Final Fantasy IV. Years later, I really liked DQVIII, and DQXI is competing with Final Fantasy VI for my top RPG of all time.
Nothing hits me as hard in the nostalgia as the opening notes to Dragon Quest's title theme. Instantly takes me back to renting the game and messing around with someone's file. They called themselves PERFECT and had already saved the Princess, which caused me to giggle when the guard told me they hated me. Then of course my friend got a copy with Nintendo Power, and I worked with him to beat it before borrowing it to play for myself.
I love the Japanese "Dragon Quest" and the password system, because unlike other password systems, "Dragon Quest" password was a haiku sentence!! I STILL have my password for my character at max level 30, experience 65,535 and 65,535G(Gold) 😉😉
The Dragon Quest game I have for the Intellivision uses the password system. I guess it's good for those future things but Battery is so much more plug and play.
Dragon Warrior was my introduction to RPGs in 1989! I had no idea what RPGs were and had no idea what kind of game I was about to play. It took me some time to realize this was NOT the Legend of Zelda or any adventure game I'd played, but once the quest started unfolding, I would spend hours playing this everyday!
Ill never forget the day my childhood best friend called me to come over saying he'd rented this game that seemed kinda cool but that he couldn't figure out because he didn't read English and since he knew I was pretty decent at it by that time (I would have been 10), he wanted me to help him with it. And so I go there and am introduced to the concept of the video game rpg. See, I knew the tapletop RPGs, i'd played The Dark eye a bunch (germany's answer to DnD, and no i'm not German, I'm French Canadian, but the Dark Eye got a French translation that did pretty well in the French speaking world) and was a huge fan of gamebooks (Fighting Fantasy and all that, basically single player tabletop rpgs....) but somehow to this point did not know there existed such a genre in video games. It was a revelation. Of course maybe 2 years later iI'd discover CRPGs (with the Ultima series) and from then on pretty much never touched a jrpg again (well except the first FF) I never counted Zelda as a rpg, for me at the time what made DW a rpg was the turn based combat and the character sheet pretty much. Funny because now i cant stand any rpg with turn based combat...
Honestly Final Fantasy skipping entries in the US makes more sense when you see how the first Dragon Quest release went here. Between localization taking time, other games releasing that could improve on its ideas and make it look primitive by comparison, and it failing to make as much of an impact as a result, it’s no wonder Square picked and chose their most impressive releases for their respective times. That still didn’t work until VII, but I’d still say it was a smart strategy from the beginning
Yeah. I think that if Square had held off on releasing FFIV in the US until after FFII and FFIII had been localized, then sales of the SNES version of FF4 (or "FF2" as it was known) probably would have been even worse. In late 1991, in North America, FF4 was seen as a huge step forward for RPGs. It got good reviews in game magazines, and it was consistently rated highly in video game polls. It was a bona fide cult hit. Although to be fair to Enix America, they didn't really have a chance to release the Super Famicom Dragon Quest games on SNES. Technical issues prevented an English translation of DQV, and DQVI came too late.
@@goranisacson2502 That's presumably it. Like most Super Famicom carts, Dragon Quest V runs perfectly fine on a Super NES (once you cut the tabs off the console's cartridge port).
I like the Toasty Frog easter egg in the players name you chose. I still have one of your old physical 'zines from the early 2000's somewhere in my closet ;-)
I managed to get to the end of 3 text heavy games without understanding much English as a kid not understanding much English, and I have no idea how because now that I understand the games perfectly fine I get stuck. So I understand you, how??
It's worth remembering that, even during the RPG boom period of the 16-bit era, JRPGs were still a niche subgenre of gaming. It wasn't until the 32-bit era, and specifically Final Fantasy VII, that RPGs really became the industry-dominating staple that they've been ever since.
Here in Europe even more so, since we didn't get almost any major JRPG series before FF 7 - except for Phantasy Star. So, you're right, sales of most RPGs before FF 7 were abysmal in the West. It's hard to overstate how important FF 7 was as far as popularizing the genre in the West goes. Paradoxically, it helped not just the Japanese RPGs, but also the Western ones like Planescape: Torment (I believe they even thanked FF 7 devs in the credits). It's just a shame that Dragon Quest never got the same recognition over here and remains popular mostly in Japan by comparison.
I was drawn in by the rare NES 4th installment in the late 90s that I borrowed from a friend. I got so hooked, I bought this for $15 used at our last local K-mart in 98'. There's a special charm to those 8-bit releases.
Your content is always amazing. So much info, trivia, fun opinions, and so on. Your view counts should be astronomically higher. Thanks for all the great, informative, and entertaining videos! Cheers!
Genuinely one of my favorite games ever. I make sure to play it through at least once per year - whenever I'm feeling stressed and need a way to relax, or if i just want to play it. What a brilliantly simple game.
I dabbled a bit with Dragon Warrior in 1989 or 1990, but it never grabbed me the way Final Fantasy did. I enjoyed "Dragon Warrior 3" a lot more when I rented it, but I never owned a copy. By 1992, I only had eyes for the Super NES. It wasn't until I played Dragon Quest VIII that I came to appreciate what the series really was.
This was the first game for me that had that effect where you'd hear the music and sounds from the game out loud instead of in your head, when trying to sleep, after I can't even imagine how many hours of playing.
The free copy was how I got my mom to buy me the NES. Once I had the cartridge, I needed the system to play it on. She didn't realize the subscription would be a gateway to more spending.
Me: I think it took me like a year to beat this as a kid. I'm not even 100% sure I ever did. I still remember exploring the giant world, getting to whole new territories. Jeremy: Barely a game, tiny world, just a tutorial, idiotically primitive, laughably basic, training wheels attached. Thanks, Jeremy.
One thing I particularly love about this game, as well the first two sequels, which is sorely missing in most of the rest of the genre, is how it doesn't really hold your hand or explicitly guides you through anything! There's literally nothing stopping you from going just about anywhere in the world map, aside from the island where the Dragonlord is located, outside of the strength of the monsters you encounter along the way, and absolutely nothing is handed to you on a silver-platter because the plot demanded it, you have to actually figure things out on your own by talking to everyone and taking notes! I mean, what kind of game hides crucial items *Necessary* for completion on totally inconspicuous tiles in the middle of the overworld map, with no indication that they're there outside of NPC hints and an item that tells you more-or-less where you are? I tell you what kind, a game that respects the player's intelligence! And it achieves that while still being not only palatable, but enjoyable, BECAUSE of its simplicity! All that said, yeah, the NES original is a bit rough to go back to, I still beat it anyway because I love this game to bits, but IMO the ideal way to play this game is either on SNES or GBC, I'm particularly partial to the GBC version myself, it feels very appropriate on the system.
Dragon Quest 1 is like video game comfort food. It's not fancy, it's not anything special by modern standards, but it's a great pallete cleanser. Sometimes you just want a simple game with a simple story to detox and have some innocent fun.
As you mentioned, what else is there to say about Dragon Quest/Warrior? I don't know, but you still created a captivating essay about the game and it's place in the gaming universe. You are the best gaming historian on TH-cam.
Man I haven't heard that castle theme in a while... Its weird how some senses like sound or smell can unlock memories you've all but forgotten. I loved this game and I had already plated Ultima on PC. Something about playing a video game on the TV was always appealing to me as a kid. It was also a great game.
I absolutely loved Dragon Warrior as a kid. It was one of the first games I beat and to this day it holds so much nostalgia. I even have a slime tattoo!
First video game RPG I ever played. Coincidentally right around the same time I was introduced to Dungeons and Dragons ( the old red box "basic" set), so I was able to "understand" what this game was. LOVED IT!!
A lot of the things that make Dragon Quest 1 a bit unpleasant to play today are things that can be and have been changed in rereleases. I played the whole series for the first time a few years ago in whatever legitimate form was the most convenient, which meant playing the mobile versions of 1-6 (those versions of 1-3 got ported to Switch) and with context sensitive controls and saving anywhere and probably a bit of rebalancing (I'm not sure on that last part) I actually had a pretty nice, relaxing time playing Dragon Quest 1. It's a lot less unfriendly than a lot of games of that era, that's for sure.
This was my introduction to RPGs. My friend a few houses over got it with Nintendo Power. We took turns grinding, so it wasn't too bad that way. We loved it. Every time my friend got the next entry it was like an event. We were quite saddened no games came out here for Super Nintendo. And you're not wrong about this one being cheap back in the day. I got my my copy for free from someone who was going to throw it out because it wasn't worth the hassle to try and sell it on ebay.
Several years ago I helped an elderly friend sell his NES and games on eBay. Among his collection were all four Dragon Warriors CIB. They went for a decent chunk at the time, but it was a fraction of what they'd sell for now.
I remember getting this when my mother got us kids a subscription to Nintendo Power. Waking up at 4am on Saturdays and Sundays to play for hours before everyone else woke up and took over the tvs... grinding to level 18 to beat that damn dragon guarding the princess. Grinding higher and higher, so that the Dargon Lord's castle wouldn't destroy me. The first time I finally beat the Dragon Lord... fan for life.
I've been familiar with this game ever since I was a child in the late '80s/early '90s, but I came to this game with The Legend of Zelda under my belt. Suffice it to say, I had no idea what I was doing, and I was not yet used to reading in my video games. But even after all of that, and coming from someone who used to hate RPGs, but eventually grew to love them as they got older, I will always have nostalgia for this game. It was what motivated me to try, and eventually buy Dragon Quest 11 for my Nintendo switch.
I was introduced to this before I ever played D&D. Played the F out of this masterpiece and then went on to play D&D all the time for several years. Still do from time to time.
Dragon Quest II is why the Japanese take on the Orc is a pig-like beastman. While there is one older depiction of the orc, from the AD&D1E monster manual, that shows orcs with snouts and is likely the reference art given to Akira Toriyama for the project. That appearance had not caught on even within other D&D books, and most orcs were more ape-like or copies of the trolls from the 1970s hobbit animated movie. Even the art of the orc was changed to be more piglike in Wizardry's Famicom port which came out nearly a whole year after Dragon Quest II.
This is of my favorite releases when it came out, and still in my top 10 nes games of all time. I poured over the guide and books and articles they put out. Nintendo’s marketing campaign hit me hook, line, and sinker lol. I still go back and play this through every couple years. It started me on a long path of RPGs.
I am so glad, that you decided to do this video. Tonight, I learned, that *Dragon Warrior,* in its process of using Occam's Razor, to strip down the elements of the classic PC RPG, to their bare-minimum, established the foundation, for the modern RPG. Within *Dragon Warrior,* you find all of the tropes, elements, and mechanics, that would go on to define RPGs, for generations to come; even today, many RPGs rely on the same basic set of tropes, elements, and mechanics. For me, it's the simple rule of KISS: "Keep it Simple, Stupid." Your fellow TH-camr, James Stephanie Sterling, has often bemoaned the push for more "cinematic," or "open-world" games, and especially in the case of the latter, they've alluded to the fact, that when you have so much open space to work with, you run out of fresh ideas, and every game, no matter who's making it, has the same kinds of quests to do, creating an insane sense of monotony, thus defeating the purpose of having an "open-world," and "cinematic” game, in the first place. Not that these concepts can't be done well; they absolutely can! It's just that, sometimes, simple, is best. Despite not being his exact words, Occam's Razor, is often relayed as going like this: "The simplest explanation is usually the best one." It seems, that nobody understood this better, than the people behind *Dragon Quest.* And it's because of them, that RPG lovers, like myself, have amazing games to play, into the modern era, where all of the same tropes, elements, and mechanics are still used across the genre, just a bit more beefed up, for modern hardware. Thanks to you, I finally understand why this franchise is such a huge deal, and I am incredibly grateful for that. Again, you impress me, tremendously, with how much love, and care, that you put into your work. Thank you for everything; can't wait for next week! Also, rest in peace, Mr. Toriyama. You will be sorely missed, and thank you for everything.
Had many memories playing this with my dad(who’s only played 2 games in his life). Thinking about it, I had no idea why we got the cartridge in the first place. Must have been from the NP subscription. Thanks for solving that!
Great look into the game and into the start of Nintendo of America’s history of trying to make DQ relevant in the West, whether by giving it away in a magazine, publishing it when Square Enix wouldn’t bother to do it themselves, or giving it extra time at E3. I’d say it eventually kinda sorta paid off. Dragon Quest IX did pretty well in the west when it came out from what I remember, but that might also be because a lot of RPGs were doing well on DS at the time. Speaking of which, I think your glowing review of DQV’s DS remake back in 2009 motivated my brother to buy the game, which I eventually borrowed. That game got me into Dragon Quest, so thanks.
I was one of the lucky kids who got the "free" release of the game with a Nintendo Power subscription. Having only gotten used games at fleamarkets from time to time up until then, it was a big deal, especially since the RPG genre was something that interested me since playing DnD games on Intellivision (also bought from a fleamarket) & the original Rogue on DOS PC. I was overjoyed to see the amount of materials that came with it and immersed in that world for a long time, making it just a little bit further each day. From there I tried other RPGs like Ultima on NES and then eventually Final Fantasy, which is still my favorite NES RPG. Glad Nintendo made such a big push with DW, as it started me off young on my lifelong fondness for console RPGs.
I just found this channel. The care and effort put into this is phenomenal. I like how you put this into context of other games from the era. Including things like the Japanese commercials is just icing on an already delicious cake. I’m now subscribed and will be checking out your other videos.
I loved the artwork for the arms and armor in Nintendo Power for DragonWarrior. I would sit in class and sketch long swords for hours in stead of paying attention to things that may or may not have been more important. I don't know. I wasn't paying attention.
My most looked forward to, episode as of yet,( cant wait to hear what you got to say about my fave series entry, DW 4, ) , and it was perfect, Mr. Parish, thou art alive, my friend, thou art very much alive
24:18 I still have this. I still have this in quite good condition. I still have this easily accessible. I still have this easily accessible right on my bookshelf. I moved 4 times since 2004, and each time, I made sure that this, the FF1 one for NES, and way more modern, my Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1 & 2 strategy guides were at worst, a drawer or 2 looking for it away. The reason for the stupid detailed comment is because I haven't played Dragon Warrior in AT LEAST 30 years, prob closer to 35. I actually don't think I eben played it again after I finally beat it as a kid when it came out for NES. It frustrated me so much and took me so long--- and I'm a guy who's always LIKED level grinding lol.... And it still pissed me off nearly as much as I enjoyed the game, to not only cause me to never play the game a 2nd time, but to never even saw physically in person, a DW2 cartridge, to seek out and consider getting DW2, 3, and more....and worst of all, as a SNES addicttttttt lol, I didn't even know they made 16 bit sequels for this game I sooooo loved, and "only" soo hated 😂 😉 Factor in my final fantasy love and uber-fandom, and while as I got older I considered trying some of the sequels, it neber compelled me enough to go back and try. I probably played 4 or 5 full FF1 playthroughs before I was a teenager, vs the 1 full DW playthrough, MAYBE a feeble 2nd attempt thay I'm not remembering But I think now, soon to be 46 on quite fitting for me, good ol Star Wars Day, I am going to use the abundance of free time I have since "retiring" from going out to the many, MANY a bar or club here in NYC, to attempt an 8bit sequel, and/or a SNES sequel or 2... It's prob better than my 80th NBA2K, downloaded 1993-1994 fully accurate roster, fantasy draft dynasty.... which includes about 4 dozen "what if my Knicks made THIS trade, or signed THAT guy, during the 94 Finals loss season?," run, which I'm still on 2k23,,didn't even bother jumping bravely into 18 months ago and grabbing the new 2k24, which is already less than 6 months away from being "obsolete" 😂 As u can probably tell, I'm not such a big gamer anymore
The is the NES game I had 2 copies of. One I bought, and later got a free one through a Nintendo Power promotional event. The localization delay worked for me. Dragon Warrior had too much reading for me at age 6, but was perfect for age 9.
I was super into Ultima IV and V on my dad's C64 but they were soooooo hard. Dragon Warrior felt like Baby's First Ultima and was the first RPG I ever finished. A proud achievement at 8 years old.
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A genuine case of "Guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. But your kids are gonna love it!"
Eh, it was more the opposite. Not as bad as Hydlide but Dragon Quest was too basic and grindy when it released in the US. Final Fantasy would come along not much later in May 1990 and was a vastly superior game.
@@Belgand FF is a superior game, no argument there. There was still quite a lot of grinding involved. The one Dragon Quest game I’d put in par with Final Fantasy is DQ III.
I think DQ/DW is still the more influential game in the US JRPG culture. FF was a singular experience in the US until the SNES, while DQ/DW was an actual series with multiple entries.
@@joncarroll2040 Except too many of the DQ sequels came out late in the NES lifespan, after the SNES had already come out and rendered it a largely-ignored backwater. Even though DQ II came out before then I don't recall it getting much in the way of marketing or making much of an impact. Like a lot of games, they were released too late into the US market to be influential here the way they were in Japan.
@@Belgand Agreed. I love Dragon Quest, maybe even more than Final Fantasy, but I do agree it doesn't have the pull it does outside of Japan in spite of its general excellence.
My dad found Edrick's armor, and that's the first time I remember experiencing jealousy.
You're dad was super cool and and a dick all at the same time! Ha!
I worked briefly at Nintendo in 2001 and I can attest they still had a decent pile of Dragon Warrior carts and promo material back then. At an internal sale I picked up one of the packets of tips and info they used to send with the game. Not that I needed it, I was one of the kids who fell in love with NES RPGs in 1989/1990 and can still play my way through by memory.
DQ1 still has one of my favorite endgames ever. After you kill the Dragonlord, you *can* just use a spell to hop across the river, back to the castle. Or... you can take a victory lap! All random encounters stop after you win, and every single NPC on the map gets new dialogue congratulating you on being awesome. Sure, the lines repeat a lot, but it feels SO GOOD after hours of grinding.
WOW! i never knew iwata himself handled the dragon warrior conversion, what a legendary hero
If Erdrick would have been a salary man, he'd have been Satoru Iwata
Count me in as one of those weird kids won over by the charms of Dragon Warrior. I was enthralled by the Nintendo Power coverage, and we absolutely got that free copy in the mail when dad renewed the yearly subscription, so I played the hell out of it. It's a simple game in retrospect, but to a little kid that loved video games and loved reading but had bad reflexes, this was quite possibly the best thing EVER. The people that I knew that didn't like Dragon Warrior (and other RPGs of the era) disliked all the reading and preferred games where they pushed a button and saw actions happen, but man, this game set me up for a lifetime of adoring crunchy RPGs of every possible sort. Bless.
Ditto. 100% same.
I’m one of those weird kids too. There was just something about the music and presentation I absolutely fell in love with. TBRPGs have remained my favorite genre ever since.
I got the Dragon Warrior supplement in Nintendo Power and immediately went out and rented it. For 9-year-old me, the relatively small size wasn't really apparent, because there wasn't anything else out there to compare it against. I never actually owned the game: I beat it with friends, and by the time Nintendo gave away free copies three or four years later, I'd moved on from video games. One of my favorite games ever.
Totally. Dragon Warrior was the beginning of a long "journey" of loving the RPG genre. What began as Dragon Warrior, led to the original Final Fantasy, circuling back to Dragon Warrior 4, the Phantasy Star "trilogy" across the Sega Genesis entries, Knights of the Old Republic - yes, a far cry from the likes of Dragon Warrior - and finally ending with the likes of Revelations the Demon Slayer, Persona 3 and Persona 4.
I still remember when my mom surprised me in the living room with “Guess what? You randomly got a free game in the mail from Nintendo Power” I was so confused haha
That little bit of screen shake when you get hit does SO MUCH, especially in later games where you face groups of enemies. You see the screen shaking a lot, those little slimes are curb stomping your hero ass into the ground.
16:50 never saw an enemy encounter map quite like this. You can see the points where the game intends for you to get your ass kicked so you can hightail it out of there.
You're absolutely right about the screen shake. Along with the text turning red when you're badly hurt, these little nuances make things seem genuinely dire. All while this cute little sprite in the middle of the screen is smiling at you amidst it curb stomping your ass lol.
@@egocide9034 The red text also helps for those who were grinding for hours and probably started thinking about other things, it's an immediate *"DANGER, START PAYING ATTENTION"*
Much better than Pokemon's constant beeping.
@@johnsimon8457 I'm fairly certain at least one NPC also cautions you that once you cross one of the bridges, you're in a new territory of much stronger monsters. It's really effective at setting mood.
The NES Dragon Warrior games have a sense of dread and fear to them that the series lost over time.
@@BB-te8tc "you that once you cross one of the bridges, you're in a new territory of much stronger monsters"
In the starting area of Final Fantasy II you can wander from the grassy fields into a swamp. And there you'll face enemies that you'd normally encounter in the second half of the game. It goes about as well as you'd think.
Since I didn't own a PC in the 80s, the free copy I got from my Nintendo Power subscription is what got me and my family interested in RPGs in the first place - we went on to buy the other 3 NES games, Final Fantasy, and a number of other lesser known titles (including Destiny of an Emperor and Ghost Lion, of all things). From that point on through the 90s, we picked up pretty much every SNES and Genesis RPG (some bought, some rented) and then proceeded to play both console and PC RPGs after that, even to today.
Nintendo may have just been dumping excess stock, but I still thank them for introducing me to the genre all those years ago.
I received my copy as part of the Nintendo Power promotion, and I really liked the simplicity of Dragon Warrior. I want to say it arrived in my life the first year of junior high, which as a real jump in complexity for life to me. It was nice to have Dragon Warrior as a world to explore without ever expanding and changing rules like early adolescent had.
I liked Dragon Warrior so much, I picked up the sequel. I heard about DWIII, but by the time it released; I think was about the time I took a break from video games for more 'teenager' stuff as I was expected to at the time.
That’s how I got it too, but I was like 8 or 9 so it did _nothing_ for me.
At first. After a few years of neglect, I picked it up again after being bored with, idk, Bart vs the Space Mutants or something. That’s when I finally saw it how Jeremy described it, learning that you need to take your time, build up your gold and XP, get better at killing monsters, and _then_ you can proceed.
Unfortunately, by the time I did get into it, the SNES was finally in my future, so I sold off my NES and everything and upgraded. But I did so with an appreciation for what became the massively popular genre it was in the ‘90s, all thanks to Dragon Warrior. I think I may need to revisit it soon, just for old times’ sake.
Gating progress through character growth, rather than plot, is one of the things I didn't realise I missed in RPGs until I played through the first three Dragon Quests (albeit in their modern Switch incarnations) over the pandemic. (I also love the way the second and third games tie back into the original!)
Quite a long episode this week. Makes sense considering how important Dragon Quest/Warrior was. Thanks for the video Jeremy.
It has been 0 days since Jeremy threw shade at Kung Fu Heroes.
It's well deserved.
But did he gush over Xevious?
I'm most amazed that somehow the influence of Xevious was still relevant to this in some distant, unexpected fashion.
Xevious is like a horror movie villain, it pops up when you least expect it
Thanks for naming the all-star artists who illustrated those Nintendo Power features. They did more to inspire me to play than anything else.
Dragon Warrior made me a huge RPG nerd. I still remember getting it on Christmas Eve and being completely sucked in to it while my parents had a Christmas party in the other room.
Probably nostaglia talking -- but this has to be one of my favorite games of all time. It's what "Started it all" for me and my journey with RPGs.
But Thou Must Go To Eurasia. Anyway, Dragon Warrior/Dragon Quest wasn't my favorite RPG, but it was as Horii and gang intended a starter for me to be the RPG-loving gamer I am today. I've been looking forward to this episode for a while, I feel like I owe Toriyama and Iwata both thanks for their efforts on this game that helped make me who I am. Dragon Warrior may be dead but Dragon Quest lives on, and I have enjoyed the journey it hath taken me on. Looking forward to the suffering of the triangle jump next time.
I remember my best friend borrowing this and I just bounced off it HARD as 10 year old me just didn't get a game where i was picking "fight" in a menu, etc. Later when I played Final Fantasy IV on SNES in middle school, RPGs finally clicked for me, so I went back and played the Dragon Warrior games with fresh eyes and was like "Hey... these games are awesome!"
I guess I assumed DW was more popular than it was. All of my friends were playing it at the time. I definitely wouldn't have the patience to spend hours grinding for gold now, but I do have fond memories. Thanks for bumping this one up.
Just wanna say I appreciate the Toasty Frog name drop of the hero in this video.
i was learning to read while playing this one in 1993 or so. got it cheap at a garage sale and it had a late-game save from the previous owner that i treated with proper reverence for ages. you showed me the hero I could become, thank you "MARK GG". still have the map poster!
I started playing this BEFORE I could read. I just drew myself a little cheat sheet for what the commands were (basically making my own emojis). This game helped me learn to read faster than my older brother and I became a voracious reader as a kid because of it.
While maybe not my favorite Dragon Quest title (DQ8 reserves the honor), this was my introduction to turn-based RPGs as a child and I absolutely adored it, grind/difficulty and all. What an immense impact.. So much of my video game mentality and preferences are probably traceable to here.
R.I.P. Akira Toriyama
I also adored it, even with the grind included. The grind honestly made this feel like an epic adventure. Thinking “Am I prepared enough for the next dungeon?” felt like a serious decision as a kid. When you finally clear the next area it felt like a real accomplishment because there was barely anything else quite like this at the time.
This was a foundational game for me as a young gamer in the eighties. I can remember getting the free cartridge in the mail with all of the booklets in the summer. I poured over the information daily, memorized all of the secrets, and explored every inch of Alefgard. I LOVE this game, and still revisit it today at least once a year. If it weren't for Dragon Warrior, I probably would not be as into video games as I am today. It is art!
Hm.
So Dragon Quest is the *true* Final Fantasy Mystic Quest.
Excellent vid!
I’m not very good at RPGs, but man Toriyama’s artwork was cool! Always loved the way he draws bigger monsters. They have this unique middle ground between amusingly cartoony and nightmarishly scary.
You wouldn’t know that from the US release back in 1989
Thank you for this excellent video, Jeremy. May the Light shine on thee.
For me, Dragon Warrior was one of those life-defining influences. It came out as I was starting middle school, and was a big part of the new friendships I made there. Toriyama's art heavily influenced my own. Dragon Warrior cemented my love of RPGs; and along with The Legend of Zelda and Final Fantasy, greatly inspired my fantasy world building throughout the years. I still have that wonderful Nintendo Power Dragon Warrior Strategy Guide: so well-used that it resembles an ancient manuscript. A relatively simple story and game; yet what a remarkable foundation it laid.
One of the coolest things the game did narratively was make saving the princess optional. If you beat the game without doing so, her loss is lamented in the end.
Likewise, if you can avoid returning to the castle after saving her, you can defeat the dragon lord with her by your side. It's such a fun little flourish.
Awwwww, that easter egg at the very end was so nostalgic and unexpected, thanks. You truly did have one of the best sites on the ancient, original internet; one that was emblematic of the zeitgeist yet simultaneously very personal and original.
I played DQ due to the free copy, and honestly didn't care much for it as a kid, especially considering that I feel like I had already played Final Fantasy 1 and genuinely liked it (release timing is fuzzy in my memory sorry), so DQ1 always felt like a big step down. But as a young teenager, after having become a JRPG fanatic, I did go back and play through it on cartridge, and also emulated and played the other three NES games and two SNES when that was possible in the mid-late 90's. Dragon Quest VI has always been one of my very favorite JRPGs, to the extent that the Silent Hill 2-like praise V receives has always gotten under my skin... a consequence of how strongly affected I am by aesthetics (and, the job system made it a waaaaay more interesting, replayable game). I wish I could agree with you about the DS localizations: of course the more accurate translation is welcome, but reading through all the regional dialects and accents was painful for me. I think it's because it feels like a distracting injection of real-world elements into a fantasy world. When taken to that extreme, at least.
The simplicity of this game does still make it a very good entry point into the increasingly robust RPG randomizer community. It’s very easy to track what you need to finish the game.
Didn't hear you mention it, but "Dragon Quest" trademark was owned by TSR at the time. Hence the name change to Dragon Warrior.
24:00 I love that they got artists to redraw the Troiyama art in the 80s I remember as a kid in the late 90s, my friends' parents bought him Dragon Warrior 3 remake on GBC because they thought it had something to do with the DBZ anime he watched and loved, its very funny to me how the DBZ connection became its selling point much later in the coming years as the anime grew here.
I remember when my brother's friend (a big anime fan) first saw the Toriyama artwork of my Chrono Trigger manual and his mind was similarly blown.
R.I.P. Akira Toriyama.
Koi hi Sugiyama can rest in piss
And Koichi Sugiyama
And DQ12 has been delayed. Urban legends will rise in Japan about the upcoming title.
@@sarysa The P stands for "peace" for Toriyama and "piss" for Sugiyama
@@rowtow13what's wrong with sugiyama?
😢
Damn, Jeremy getting in some YMO talk.
My understanding is that Sugiyama was a huge chess need and tech enthusiast, and Enix had made a cutting edge chess program that he fell in love with and wanted to be involved with moving forward
I worked for like a month over the summer as a kid at my neighbor’s home business, packing party supplies, just to get enough money to buy this.
As much as the large scale regional narrative holds true, Dragon Warrior was sort of the Velvet Underground of the NES. Those of us who got it *really* got it. As my first exposure to turn-based RPGs, it definitely primed me to get heavily into D&D and other tabletop ones the following year.
When it was first released I LOVED Dragon Warrior. It didn't matter to me that the actual game itself was quite small and limited with the play time greatly padded through grinding. To me the the grinding was part of what I enjoyed in the game. The incremental nature of it was oddly satisfying and rewarding.
For me Dragon Warrior was the primer for decades of JRPGs and grindy incremental type games which I still play to this day!
I got my copy of Dragon Warrior from the nintendo power giveaway and i still have it!
When I was very young, I attempted to play Wizardry and Bard's Tale but it was just too opaque for me to make any headway in those games at such a young age. This game gave me exactly what I needed and wanted at the time, an RPG stripped down to the basics, easily playable, and entertaining.
I'm one of those who didn't see the appeal back then. I got a cartridge for very cheap like most people and never played it for 15 years. Then I tried it, my first DQ game, and fell in love. DQ1 is one of my favorites with 3,5 and 8. I love it's minimalism. It's one of the purest games ever made.
I was one of the kids who received a free copy of Dragon Warrior from Nintendo Power. A $60 game for free was such a good deal I had my parents cancel my existing subscription and resubscribe so I could get it :)
I did finish it eventually, the game was alright. I didn’t get into RPGs in earnest until Final Fantasy IV. Years later, I really liked DQVIII, and DQXI is competing with Final Fantasy VI for my top RPG of all time.
Nothing hits me as hard in the nostalgia as the opening notes to Dragon Quest's title theme. Instantly takes me back to renting the game and messing around with someone's file. They called themselves PERFECT and had already saved the Princess, which caused me to giggle when the guard told me they hated me.
Then of course my friend got a copy with Nintendo Power, and I worked with him to beat it before borrowing it to play for myself.
I love the Japanese "Dragon Quest" and the password system, because unlike other password systems, "Dragon Quest" password was a haiku sentence!! I STILL have my password for my character at max level 30, experience 65,535 and 65,535G(Gold) 😉😉
The Dragon Quest game I have for the Intellivision uses the password system. I guess it's good for those future things but Battery is so much more plug and play.
Dragon Warrior was my introduction to RPGs in 1989! I had no idea what RPGs were and had no idea what kind of game I was about to play. It took me some time to realize this was NOT the Legend of Zelda or any adventure game I'd played, but once the quest started unfolding, I would spend hours playing this everyday!
Ill never forget the day my childhood best friend called me to come over saying he'd rented this game that seemed kinda cool but that he couldn't figure out because he didn't read English and since he knew I was pretty decent at it by that time (I would have been 10), he wanted me to help him with it. And so I go there and am introduced to the concept of the video game rpg. See, I knew the tapletop RPGs, i'd played The Dark eye a bunch (germany's answer to DnD, and no i'm not German, I'm French Canadian, but the Dark Eye got a French translation that did pretty well in the French speaking world) and was a huge fan of gamebooks (Fighting Fantasy and all that, basically single player tabletop rpgs....) but somehow to this point did not know there existed such a genre in video games. It was a revelation.
Of course maybe 2 years later iI'd discover CRPGs (with the Ultima series) and from then on pretty much never touched a jrpg again (well except the first FF)
I never counted Zelda as a rpg, for me at the time what made DW a rpg was the turn based combat and the character sheet pretty much. Funny because now i cant stand any rpg with turn based combat...
Honestly Final Fantasy skipping entries in the US makes more sense when you see how the first Dragon Quest release went here. Between localization taking time, other games releasing that could improve on its ideas and make it look primitive by comparison, and it failing to make as much of an impact as a result, it’s no wonder Square picked and chose their most impressive releases for their respective times. That still didn’t work until VII, but I’d still say it was a smart strategy from the beginning
Yeah. I think that if Square had held off on releasing FFIV in the US until after FFII and FFIII had been localized, then sales of the SNES version of FF4 (or "FF2" as it was known) probably would have been even worse. In late 1991, in North America, FF4 was seen as a huge step forward for RPGs. It got good reviews in game magazines, and it was consistently rated highly in video game polls. It was a bona fide cult hit.
Although to be fair to Enix America, they didn't really have a chance to release the Super Famicom Dragon Quest games on SNES. Technical issues prevented an English translation of DQV, and DQVI came too late.
@@daviddalrymple2284 FF1 came out in North America in 1990, a year before the SNES and FF4. FF2 and 3 never had a chance.
@@daviddalrymple2284 Didn't know about the technical issued- what were they? Too little space to convert the script to English?
@@goranisacson2502 That's presumably it. Like most Super Famicom carts, Dragon Quest V runs perfectly fine on a Super NES (once you cut the tabs off the console's cartridge port).
I like the Toasty Frog easter egg in the players name you chose. I still have one of your old physical 'zines from the early 2000's somewhere in my closet ;-)
What a perfect video to come along, right as I finished the translated SFC version of the game!
Got my mom to pick up a used copy after I played this at my cousins house around 1990
Still my favorite jrpg series
There is no more perfect microcosm of patience for reward like grinding metal slimes for experience
A zen experience indeed.
The first game I ever completed, in 1992. What a grind! To have that kind of patience nowadays.
I managed to get to the end of 3 text heavy games without understanding much English as a kid not understanding much English, and I have no idea how because now that I understand the games perfectly fine I get stuck. So I understand you, how??
It's worth remembering that, even during the RPG boom period of the 16-bit era, JRPGs were still a niche subgenre of gaming. It wasn't until the 32-bit era, and specifically Final Fantasy VII, that RPGs really became the industry-dominating staple that they've been ever since.
Here in Europe even more so, since we didn't get almost any major JRPG series before FF 7 - except for Phantasy Star. So, you're right, sales of most RPGs before FF 7 were abysmal in the West. It's hard to overstate how important FF 7 was as far as popularizing the genre in the West goes. Paradoxically, it helped not just the Japanese RPGs, but also the Western ones like Planescape: Torment (I believe they even thanked FF 7 devs in the credits). It's just a shame that Dragon Quest never got the same recognition over here and remains popular mostly in Japan by comparison.
These are so good. The research you put into these amazes me every single time.
RIP Akira Toriyama, I can't wait to experience his final work in Dragon Quest XII!
I was drawn in by the rare NES 4th installment in the late 90s that I borrowed from a friend. I got so hooked, I bought this for $15 used at our last local K-mart in 98'. There's a special charm to those 8-bit releases.
Your content is always amazing. So much info, trivia, fun opinions, and so on. Your view counts should be astronomically higher. Thanks for all the great, informative, and entertaining videos! Cheers!
Genuinely one of my favorite games ever. I make sure to play it through at least once per year - whenever I'm feeling stressed and need a way to relax, or if i just want to play it. What a brilliantly simple game.
A Slime appears.
Command?
Make AMSR content out of squishing it
I dabbled a bit with Dragon Warrior in 1989 or 1990, but it never grabbed me the way Final Fantasy did. I enjoyed "Dragon Warrior 3" a lot more when I rented it, but I never owned a copy. By 1992, I only had eyes for the Super NES. It wasn't until I played Dragon Quest VIII that I came to appreciate what the series really was.
The first two games are cool and all but 3 is where the series really comes into its own
The music from Dragon Warrior for NES triggers instant nostalgia and dread at the same time.
Still one of my favourite classic RPGs. I only just replayed it a few months back. Thanks for the great video Jeremy.
Dragon Quest Builders 1 is a very good re-imagining of Dragon Warrior 1
It's a reimagining of DQ1's world but it actually takes place AFTER the first game, in the "bad ending" where the hero took the Dragonlord's side.
Builders is soooooooo good! I like it way more than other crafting games.
He said "Xevious" again. EVERYBODY DRINK
This was the first game for me that had that effect where you'd hear the music and sounds from the game out loud instead of in your head, when trying to sleep, after I can't even imagine how many hours of playing.
Amazing video Jeremy. You did a great game justice.
The free copy was how I got my mom to buy me the NES. Once I had the cartridge, I needed the system to play it on. She didn't realize the subscription would be a gateway to more spending.
Me: I think it took me like a year to beat this as a kid. I'm not even 100% sure I ever did. I still remember exploring the giant world, getting to whole new territories.
Jeremy: Barely a game, tiny world, just a tutorial, idiotically primitive, laughably basic, training wheels attached.
Thanks, Jeremy.
Thank GOD this game came out before final fantasy in the US
One thing I particularly love about this game, as well the first two sequels, which is sorely missing in most of the rest of the genre, is how it doesn't really hold your hand or explicitly guides you through anything!
There's literally nothing stopping you from going just about anywhere in the world map, aside from the island where the Dragonlord is located, outside of the strength of the monsters you encounter along the way, and absolutely nothing is handed to you on a silver-platter because the plot demanded it, you have to actually figure things out on your own by talking to everyone and taking notes!
I mean, what kind of game hides crucial items *Necessary* for completion on totally inconspicuous tiles in the middle of the overworld map, with no indication that they're there outside of NPC hints and an item that tells you more-or-less where you are? I tell you what kind, a game that respects the player's intelligence! And it achieves that while still being not only palatable, but enjoyable, BECAUSE of its simplicity!
All that said, yeah, the NES original is a bit rough to go back to, I still beat it anyway because I love this game to bits, but IMO the ideal way to play this game is either on SNES or GBC, I'm particularly partial to the GBC version myself, it feels very appropriate on the system.
Dragon Quest 1 is like video game comfort food. It's not fancy, it's not anything special by modern standards, but it's a great pallete cleanser. Sometimes you just want a simple game with a simple story to detox and have some innocent fun.
As you mentioned, what else is there to say about Dragon Quest/Warrior? I don't know, but you still created a captivating essay about the game and it's place in the gaming universe. You are the best gaming historian on TH-cam.
Man I haven't heard that castle theme in a while... Its weird how some senses like sound or smell can unlock memories you've all but forgotten. I loved this game and I had already plated Ultima on PC. Something about playing a video game on the TV was always appealing to me as a kid. It was also a great game.
I absolutely loved Dragon Warrior as a kid. It was one of the first games I beat and to this day it holds so much nostalgia. I even have a slime tattoo!
First video game RPG I ever played. Coincidentally right around the same time I was introduced to Dungeons and Dragons ( the old red box "basic" set), so I was able to "understand" what this game was. LOVED IT!!
A lot of the things that make Dragon Quest 1 a bit unpleasant to play today are things that can be and have been changed in rereleases. I played the whole series for the first time a few years ago in whatever legitimate form was the most convenient, which meant playing the mobile versions of 1-6 (those versions of 1-3 got ported to Switch) and with context sensitive controls and saving anywhere and probably a bit of rebalancing (I'm not sure on that last part) I actually had a pretty nice, relaxing time playing Dragon Quest 1. It's a lot less unfriendly than a lot of games of that era, that's for sure.
This was my introduction to RPGs. My friend a few houses over got it with Nintendo Power. We took turns grinding, so it wasn't too bad that way. We loved it. Every time my friend got the next entry it was like an event. We were quite saddened no games came out here for Super Nintendo. And you're not wrong about this one being cheap back in the day. I got my my copy for free from someone who was going to throw it out because it wasn't worth the hassle to try and sell it on ebay.
You are literally the only retro game TH-camr that I bother to watch anymore. Keep up the great work.
Got mine free from Nintendo Power and beat it as a kid. Good memories!
Several years ago I helped an elderly friend sell his NES and games on eBay. Among his collection were all four Dragon Warriors CIB. They went for a decent chunk at the time, but it was a fraction of what they'd sell for now.
I was not expecting to see a Journey: Escape reference in the Dragon Quest episode, but here we are.
I remember getting this when my mother got us kids a subscription to Nintendo Power. Waking up at 4am on Saturdays and Sundays to play for hours before everyone else woke up and took over the tvs... grinding to level 18 to beat that damn dragon guarding the princess. Grinding higher and higher, so that the Dargon Lord's castle wouldn't destroy me. The first time I finally beat the Dragon Lord... fan for life.
I've been familiar with this game ever since I was a child in the late '80s/early '90s, but I came to this game with The Legend of Zelda under my belt. Suffice it to say, I had no idea what I was doing, and I was not yet used to reading in my video games. But even after all of that, and coming from someone who used to hate RPGs, but eventually grew to love them as they got older, I will always have nostalgia for this game. It was what motivated me to try, and eventually buy Dragon Quest 11 for my Nintendo switch.
I was introduced to this before I ever played D&D. Played the F out of this masterpiece and then went on to play D&D all the time for several years. Still do from time to time.
Dragon Quest II is why the Japanese take on the Orc is a pig-like beastman. While there is one older depiction of the orc, from the AD&D1E monster manual, that shows orcs with snouts and is likely the reference art given to Akira Toriyama for the project. That appearance had not caught on even within other D&D books, and most orcs were more ape-like or copies of the trolls from the 1970s hobbit animated movie. Even the art of the orc was changed to be more piglike in Wizardry's Famicom port which came out nearly a whole year after Dragon Quest II.
This is of my favorite releases when it came out, and still in my top 10 nes games of all time. I poured over the guide and books and articles they put out. Nintendo’s marketing campaign hit me hook, line, and sinker lol.
I still go back and play this through every couple years. It started me on a long path of RPGs.
I am so glad, that you decided to do this video. Tonight, I learned, that *Dragon Warrior,* in its process of using Occam's Razor, to strip down the elements of the classic PC RPG, to their bare-minimum, established the foundation, for the modern RPG. Within *Dragon Warrior,* you find all of the tropes, elements, and mechanics, that would go on to define RPGs, for generations to come; even today, many RPGs rely on the same basic set of tropes, elements, and mechanics. For me, it's the simple rule of KISS: "Keep it Simple, Stupid."
Your fellow TH-camr, James Stephanie Sterling, has often bemoaned the push for more "cinematic," or "open-world" games, and especially in the case of the latter, they've alluded to the fact, that when you have so much open space to work with, you run out of fresh ideas, and every game, no matter who's making it, has the same kinds of quests to do, creating an insane sense of monotony, thus defeating the purpose of having an "open-world," and "cinematic” game, in the first place. Not that these concepts can't be done well; they absolutely can! It's just that, sometimes, simple, is best.
Despite not being his exact words, Occam's Razor, is often relayed as going like this: "The simplest explanation is usually the best one." It seems, that nobody understood this better, than the people behind *Dragon Quest.* And it's because of them, that RPG lovers, like myself, have amazing games to play, into the modern era, where all of the same tropes, elements, and mechanics are still used across the genre, just a bit more beefed up, for modern hardware.
Thanks to you, I finally understand why this franchise is such a huge deal, and I am incredibly grateful for that. Again, you impress me, tremendously, with how much love, and care, that you put into your work. Thank you for everything; can't wait for next week!
Also, rest in peace, Mr. Toriyama. You will be sorely missed, and thank you for everything.
Had many memories playing this with my dad(who’s only played 2 games in his life). Thinking about it, I had no idea why we got the cartridge in the first place. Must have been from the NP subscription. Thanks for solving that!
When I got my copy in I think 1990, they were marked down to $10 and there were still dozens of copies lingering on the shelf.
My free copy of Dragon Warrior turned me into a lifetime RPG fan.
Great look into the game and into the start of Nintendo of America’s history of trying to make DQ relevant in the West, whether by giving it away in a magazine, publishing it when Square Enix wouldn’t bother to do it themselves, or giving it extra time at E3. I’d say it eventually kinda sorta paid off. Dragon Quest IX did pretty well in the west when it came out from what I remember, but that might also be because a lot of RPGs were doing well on DS at the time.
Speaking of which, I think your glowing review of DQV’s DS remake back in 2009 motivated my brother to buy the game, which I eventually borrowed. That game got me into Dragon Quest, so thanks.
I was one of the lucky kids who got the "free" release of the game with a Nintendo Power subscription. Having only gotten used games at fleamarkets from time to time up until then, it was a big deal, especially since the RPG genre was something that interested me since playing DnD games on Intellivision (also bought from a fleamarket) & the original Rogue on DOS PC. I was overjoyed to see the amount of materials that came with it and immersed in that world for a long time, making it just a little bit further each day. From there I tried other RPGs like Ultima on NES and then eventually Final Fantasy, which is still my favorite NES RPG. Glad Nintendo made such a big push with DW, as it started me off young on my lifelong fondness for console RPGs.
I vaguely remember getting a copy of this game for free and IT WAS FUCKING AWESOME
I just found this channel. The care and effort put into this is phenomenal. I like how you put this into context of other games from the era. Including things like the Japanese commercials is just icing on an already delicious cake. I’m now subscribed and will be checking out your other videos.
I loved the artwork for the arms and armor in Nintendo Power for DragonWarrior. I would sit in class and sketch long swords for hours in stead of paying attention to things that may or may not have been more important. I don't know. I wasn't paying attention.
My most looked forward to, episode as of yet,( cant wait to hear what you got to say about my fave series entry, DW 4, ) , and it was perfect, Mr. Parish, thou art alive, my friend, thou art very much alive
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I still have this.
I still have this in quite good condition.
I still have this easily accessible.
I still have this easily accessible right on my bookshelf.
I moved 4 times since 2004, and each time, I made sure that this, the FF1 one for NES, and way more modern, my Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1 & 2 strategy guides were at worst, a drawer or 2 looking for it away.
The reason for the stupid detailed comment is because I haven't played Dragon Warrior in AT LEAST 30 years, prob closer to 35. I actually don't think I eben played it again after I finally beat it as a kid when it came out for NES. It frustrated me so much and took me so long--- and I'm a guy who's always LIKED level grinding lol....
And it still pissed me off nearly as much as I enjoyed the game, to not only cause me to never play the game a 2nd time, but to never even saw physically in person, a DW2 cartridge, to seek out and consider getting DW2, 3, and more....and worst of all, as a SNES addicttttttt lol, I didn't even know they made 16 bit sequels for this game I sooooo loved, and "only" soo hated 😂 😉
Factor in my final fantasy love and uber-fandom, and while as I got older I considered trying some of the sequels, it neber compelled me enough to go back and try.
I probably played 4 or 5 full FF1 playthroughs before I was a teenager, vs the 1 full DW playthrough, MAYBE a feeble 2nd attempt thay I'm not remembering
But I think now, soon to be 46 on quite fitting for me, good ol Star Wars Day, I am going to use the abundance of free time I have since "retiring" from going out to the many, MANY a bar or club here in NYC, to attempt an 8bit sequel, and/or a SNES sequel or 2...
It's prob better than my 80th NBA2K, downloaded 1993-1994 fully accurate roster, fantasy draft dynasty.... which includes about 4 dozen "what if my Knicks made THIS trade, or signed THAT guy, during the 94 Finals loss season?," run, which I'm still on 2k23,,didn't even bother jumping bravely into 18 months ago and grabbing the new 2k24, which is already less than 6 months away from being "obsolete"
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As u can probably tell, I'm not such a big gamer anymore
My first entry was Dragon Warrior 4, which was just a marvel of storytelling!
The is the NES game I had 2 copies of. One I bought, and later got a free one through a Nintendo Power promotional event.
The localization delay worked for me. Dragon Warrior had too much reading for me at age 6, but was perfect for age 9.
I was super into Ultima IV and V on my dad's C64 but they were soooooo hard. Dragon Warrior felt like Baby's First Ultima and was the first RPG I ever finished. A proud achievement at 8 years old.