Another great video and review. Any chance we could get a video explaining what it means and show what it is to be an "expert", "intermediate", and "beginner" riders. I see almost every piece of gear has this rating but what does that even mean? Is it base on terrain or speed or tricks, I guess a combo would make the most sense. If you were going with t rice snowboarding would you say expert? VS if your family, friends etc asks
You don’t need this video 😂everyone knows where they are at. If you can’t confidently ride any terrain at a decent mountain your not an expert, beginner Is anyone who can’t carve, intermediate is everyone else. Any pro is in the .01% of riders and at a lvl non of us will ever reach. The rates mean nothing for snowboards. Just a meter of money your willing to spend
Be honest with your ability, a board that is above your ability is going to ride you instead of you riding it, and it will not be a positive experience
Hello mate. I'm a BASI snowboard instructor. My best advice would be to try boards to get a feel for them. The ''expert'' tag or whatever might mean that it's trad camber, which is harder for beginners. It makes it a lot more aggressive and easier to catch an edge. Expert tag might also mean its really stiff which advanced riders that generate more force might benefit more from. If you just casually spends a few weeks a year snowboarding and have the money. Try em! see what you like. Just know expert rating usually just means its stiffer/more aggressive EDIT: I myself prefer around a 5-6 stiffness and a camrock board which is a fusion of both (mainly camber though). Its the ''fun'' ratings for me at least. Makes it so i can jib/butter around easily while still being pretty stable at high speeds
This is my 3rd season on a super doa and still absolutely love this board. I went big, 161w, and love it so much I may buy another super doa in a smaller size
Do you have any recommendations for ppl with bigger feet I outgrew my last snowboard and with size 15 feet it’s hard to find good boards that’s keep my toes from dragging
My dream snowboard setup would probably be a textured gel helmet odoland goggles i forgot the name of the jacket and snow pants but other than that the gloves would be those mittens that connect to your jacket and the goliath snowboard from this video with clew bindings and regular burdon boots but that would cost alot so probably never gonna get it idk
TJ, Excellent footage! After watching your and other vids out there I am right on the fence between Mercury and Super DOA. I am an experienced rider but coming back after a few years of hiatus - life happens :). All the new tech is overwhelming! 1) How chatty is Super DOA? The board looked very stable and "quiet" on groomers and landings in your vid. Dare I take it to the back bowls? 2) Merc sounds like the better board for the back bowls (where I spend most of the day) where things could get fast.. Though the fun for me is the canyons, natural features, weaving through moguls, switching it up while jumping... mach 10 carving does not really interest me that much, but precision and control are important. What's everyone's take on the two boards for the kind of riding I really want to focus on this season?
Ive had a mercury for a few years now. After riding tons of other boards ive never been one one that can do everything as well as the mercury does. That and its an extremely durable and well built board. Couldnt recommend it more.
@@Matthew-re9pb thanks for the suggestion. I looked hard at the Mega Merc and on paper it makes sense. However, from the reviews it seems to have very specific "tone" if you will. I am looking for a shop around Denver to demo it.
@@masondixon1718 well it awesome that you have found that trusty riding companion. I will try to demo the Super DOA but something tells me its just too expensive and flies off the shelves too fast to be in a demo fleet
Would the Solomon Assassin be close to this list? I just moved from Arbor Westmark camber, which was too stiff for me and love the Assassin. Was hoping it made the cut! Love the vids as always!
Hi, Can I ask you, what bindings would you put on that super DOA? I saw that you ride it with Union Atlas, is it normal or pro? Or is it ok to have it with Union Ultra? Thanks :))
TJ, I know the Evil Twin didn't make this list but I've been eyeing it up. It's been a few years of not riding (kids!), but want to get back into it. Live on the east (Ice) coast and just wanted to know if the Evil Twin (+) is worth it for our sub par conditions? I ride (an old Solamon Twin 151) all over the mountain and love the park and pipe if there is one. Would the Arbor Westmark be a better choice for the icy conditions since it has the side bites? Thanks in advance for the help.
im an east coast rider in PA. the evil twin rips . it's a full camber board and i personally think that the 3BT doesn't make it "worse" on ice , you just have to learn how to ride it in bad conditions . i personally hate the serrated contact point technology as it feels like dragging an ice pic behind you and ruins the sensation of snowboarding but some people like it. The Evil Twin is a perfectly fine east coast board .
@@richscoza4362 no problem. just my .02. 3BT and edge tech are both love it or hate it seems like so if you can find a place that'll let you demo an evil twin definitely do that
I would say I’m a intermediate to advanced rider and I don’t know what board to get next. I’ve been riding a capita pathfinder for the last season and a half but I’m not a big fan of it anymore. I want a board that will handle well at high speeds, good on groomers, playful, and decent in powder. If you could help out that would be awesome.
Depends on what profile you enjoy riding Rocker under the feet? Trice pro Camber? sdoa or evil twin plus Camrock? Try the Mercury from capita Freeride focused? Black snowboard of death, lib skunk ape
If you’re looking for a 159W I have a new(still in plastic) Gnu Hyper I’d sell for $50 less than the $600 I just paid. I believed it to be more of a park board when I bought it.
I was only selecting from boards I have spent time on in the last couple of seasons, I haven't ridden the camber version in quite a while. That is still one of my personal favorites though, still a very unique and capable snowboard. I also just wanted to include a solid rocker dominant board in this list for the people who like the feel and benefits of reverse camber.
Hey, nice video! I used a never summer hybrid board (PROTO HD) for 7 years and im hitting S-M jumps and 50-50 on rails. Outside the park i really like to go fast do a little carving (not so aggressive) but mostly side hits and popping in the transactions. Buying a new board is a huge "event" for me so, what board you think it suits me the most? Help me guys!! I dont think TJ wil answer 🤣
Does anyone know how well the Battalion Whatever and/or the Season Nexus handles icy runs? I’m assuming the Nexus holds the icy spots better, but are either of them good on ice, compared to something like magne-traction?
I picked up both Nexus and Aero boards for this season. Ran both a few days in stiff and icy conditions in PA. Agree with other comment here that Nexus gets a bit squirrelly at higher speeds, especially on firm ground. Aero was noticably more stable in those conditions. I do like the Nexus so far, but have been riding the Aero more just due to the conditions and my riding style. Nexus would definitely be excellent in powder and it's a got a great flex and overall stability. Liking the both so far.
As always a solid list that makes me want to buy more Snowboards haha... but i really dont need to. Would love to see you on a Yes Typo... which could be a contender for this list. And that Lago x CW Double Barrel you have been hording away 😁
Arbor consistently gets love from everyone. I remember when I had the westmark rocker like 6 years ago and it was high on everyone's list. I usually feel like boards fade in and out, but this board is on everyones list All The Time. I love that board.
Have the Westmark Camber Frank April from a couple years back and its a fantastic board! I want to try the rocker now that it has the upturned nose and tail - that just looks like it would be a hoot to ride.
I got a season nexus last season and have been enjoying it. I ride an evil twin most of the time but take out the nexus whenever there's fresh snow and it has great float and seems to be super nimble in trees, turns effortlessly. I think that mixed with it being a bit on the more flexible side makes it feel just slightly unstable at high speed which took a bit of getting used to but overall I'm happy with it.
That's a solid combo, I'm on the ET+ and Nexus this season as my personal boards this season hahah. Yeah the Nexus isn't a charger but I think that is part of the charm
for an intermediate rider, would you recommend the bataleon goliath (or +), bataleon evil twin (or +), or the capita super doa? Also wondering what bindings you would recommend paring with each of these boards.
@@carsonrader7246 Super DOA and Goliath are probably both more board than you need or even want right now they are fairly aggressive. They're boards you could progress into if you're down to ride something stiffer but might be a little uncomfortable for the time being. I think the Whatever would be more fun and still a really nice choice for progression. I'd point you towards the Whatever, or maybe the regular DOA if you want to go proper true twin but even that might still be a little stiffer than you want. Hope that helps
The super DOA and Goliath are pretty aggressive, I would definitely go with a bit less board then that as an intermediate. Perhaps the regular DOA would be a great option! It offers that stability outside the park and is a ton of fun inside the park. Consider the DOA the super DOA’s little brother.. but don’t underestimate it. That regular DOA is hard to max out and can definitely handle its own outside the park, and is a ton of fun inside the park!
The evil twin and whatever or whatever beyond medals are super easy to learn on and hone them skills. Like TJ said the Goliath might be a little too aggressive for somebody just beginning.
Are you not recommending the Pig Series anymore? Or just don t test it over and over again. I was wondering, bcs you recommended it for years and now I didn’t hear of any Ride boards for a while from you.
Love my westmark camber first season on it and it’s been so fun progressing jumps and holds well on groomers. Grip tech takes some getting used to on carves tho
I have a Bataleon Whatever, 154cm. I'm 5'8", 165lbs, shoe size 43 Euro or 8.5 US. I'm on my 3rd season of snowboarding, but skateboarded for about 15 years and surfed for 20 years. I have 4 snowboards. This board is awesome for me. It's like a skateboard. I don't have to think about turning it because it turns when I want it to, unlike other boards I have to guide around the turns. And it will not catch an edge with the 3-D profile. I have a Bataleon Party Wave that I was catching edges on a lot when I started out. I think that board needs to be moving faster because it's so wide, then it won't catch. But this one is so light and responsive. It never catches edge. It's a blast to ride. I do agree that it seems to have some limits, like when I want to go super fast and have it track a straight line. It kind of dances a little bit in comparison to my LibTech Orca. And the base doesn't seem as fast as my Orca or my Jones Mountain Twin. But it's so much fun. Last season after I got it, I never rode any other boards unless there was a lot of powder, like a foot or more. Anyone who is a beginner through intermediate should consider this board. Bateleon is a great company.
@@dsd-downshiftdave8056 honestly in my personal opinion(not that you asked me)but Bataleon is the shit. Especially if you want to hone your skills. Very easy to control the whatever and Very hard to catch an edge. I have 3 different Bataleon boards. Goliath, evil twin, and the whatever beyond medals which is a step up from the regular whatever. I started on a lib tech skate banana and I hated that thing. That thing was an edge catching machine.
@@Crumpled4skin111 I’m a newer snowboarder and I’m looking for a do it all board but I lean more towards tree runs and don’t do a lot of park. Would this be a good board for me?
@@canadianbacon5474 it’s an all mountain freestyle board so definitely. I’ve hit tree runs with all of my boards. Still the whatever beyond medals is my favorite so far though. Just the control I have with it is on point. That’s just my opinion though. You can hit tree runs with any board though. It all depends on preference. I would definitely recommend this for a beginner to learn on.
Thanks for these reviews and recommendation videos, they're great. I'm an intermediate rider in Europe who likes the idea of 3BT. I am considering the Whatever, but I won't be riding much park, generally am riding with skiers. So am wondering if I would be better off with the Goliath for more stability at speed and a longer term board. Would the Goliath be too much board for an intermediate rider in your opinion? And if I go with the Whatever is it capable for charging on piste?
If you ride not that much park and are not interested in butters, then consider the Goliath bc of the stiffer flex. The whatever definitely has some limitations in terms of charging and carving. You can also consider the whatever beyond medals. It’s basically the whatever with a stiffer flex so it’s better for All Mountain riding (also has a really nice design)
so I just bought an arbor Westmark rocker. it was recommended to me by a shop based off what I am looking for. I currently ride a yes the Y directional board which is pretty stiff. I like it for carving but I am looking to get into buttering tricks and riding switch. so I wanted a true twin that could still ride the whole mountain. My main concern is I got the rocker which sounds good for buttering but I feel I might struggle with carving. I board in the east so powder isn't really I thing here sadly. I have never ridden a rocker board so I guess I will see how it goes. I can still return it and I was wondering if you had any suggestions before I take it out. IM a smaller rider about 5'6 140lbs. Im really looking for a board that I can butter with but still have fun on the mountain. I don't do much park but I may give it a try. The capita DOA seems like a good fit for me but I'm wondering if it will be to stiff for learning buttering Thanks for the dope videos and I would really appreciate your thoughts.
I have a good amount of time on this board this season. It's surprising good for being a rocker. But you definitely find its limitation on steep slopes when its a bit icy. It's been a blast for learning buttering and flat ground tricks since it's less catchy. for jumps it's good but you don't get that soft landing like a board with camber. I have taken it to the park a few times but truthly the park isn't that fun for me. It's defiantly a playful board that can carve okay for being a rocker. That being said if your looking for a true all mountain board I think their are better options. My next board will be a hybrid camber/rocker. Now if you're more of a park rider then I think this board would be a better fit. It's also a nice board to learn switch on.@@Velvety353
The one I bought this year didn't make your list. It's brand new though so maybe you didn't get a chance to test. I bought the YES std Uninc and it rips. Not had it out on a deep day yet so I'll be interested to see how it gets on being camber. I like it so far though.
@@BoardArchive they certainly build solid boards. I think this is a good compromise for a "do everything board". A deep day will be the test. It's a volume shifted twin so the extra board will help with float how well the camber will do alongside that will also be key. Midbite helps with edgehold and a slightly narrower waist make it more nimble with the added heft in the nose and tail. Try one out if you get the chance. I'm sure you'd like it too.
@@BoardArchive First, Burton rates each board in 3 categories on its website. (Park - All Mountain - Powder) Secondly, the Blossom is a parkboard that does not have the property to score points in the category Freeride, carving etc. Because the shape is simply designed for park and tricks. A typical freeride board can't be the best parking board either. For example, a Burton Custom has been an all-mountain board for years, but not a super half-pipe or killer freeride powder board.
I own the camber and I would put a beginner on it (I am not a beginner so its good for when you advance too). But get it shorter than you think because the running edge is long for its size, my 153 has an edge like a normal 158. Very poppy, great for jumps and carves and does not catch edges when you get lazy. Great boards!
@@awiegwa EVERYTHING! You can pound out all terrain. Stiffer than than the regular whatever so you don’t get the chatter in the nose and tail. Has a super surfy feel and i have so much control with it. I had the lib tech skate banana a while back and I hated that thing so I went and got the Bataleon Goliath, then the evil twin, then the beyond medals. Goliath is aw-ite, the evil twin is dope, but this beyond medals if far more superior.
Does anyone else just come to these videos to see TJ shred?? Love his riding style.
Another great video and review. Any chance we could get a video explaining what it means and show what it is to be an "expert", "intermediate", and "beginner" riders. I see almost every piece of gear has this rating but what does that even mean? Is it base on terrain or speed or tricks, I guess a combo would make the most sense. If you were going with t rice snowboarding would you say expert? VS if your family, friends etc asks
You don’t need this video 😂everyone knows where they are at. If you can’t confidently ride any terrain at a decent mountain your not an expert, beginner Is anyone who can’t carve, intermediate is everyone else. Any pro is in the .01% of riders and at a lvl non of us will ever reach. The rates mean nothing for snowboards. Just a meter of money your willing to spend
Yooo
Be honest with your ability, a board that is above your ability is going to ride you instead of you riding it, and it will not be a positive experience
Hello mate. I'm a BASI snowboard instructor. My best advice would be to try boards to get a feel for them. The ''expert'' tag or whatever might mean that it's trad camber, which is harder for beginners. It makes it a lot more aggressive and easier to catch an edge. Expert tag might also mean its really stiff which advanced riders that generate more force might benefit more from.
If you just casually spends a few weeks a year snowboarding and have the money. Try em! see what you like. Just know expert rating usually just means its stiffer/more aggressive
EDIT: I myself prefer around a 5-6 stiffness and a camrock board which is a fusion of both (mainly camber though). Its the ''fun'' ratings for me at least. Makes it so i can jib/butter around easily while still being pretty stable at high speeds
I got the whatever 159w and i ran a rock through the base and and wood layer on my first week.
ah man that is terrible, sorry to hear that!
This is my 3rd season on a super doa and still absolutely love this board. I went big, 161w, and love it so much I may buy another super doa in a smaller size
Hey my man. What angles are you running your bindings at? If you differ from board to board, your more jib/park focused boards.
Me with my 4 year old westmark rocker looking at my next board. Looks like I'll hold onto it for a few more seasons!
What about the free thinker?
Tj u r shredding the place hi from New Zealand
The editing on these vids is top tier! 👌
Another great review, love watching this channel. Is the whatever to the evil twin the same as the Goliath is to the evil twin plus ?
where would you put the burton custom camber?
Do you have any recommendations for ppl with bigger feet I outgrew my last snowboard and with size 15 feet it’s hard to find good boards that’s keep my toes from dragging
My dream snowboard setup would probably be a textured gel helmet odoland goggles i forgot the name of the jacket and snow pants but other than that the gloves would be those mittens that connect to your jacket and the goliath snowboard from this video with clew bindings and regular burdon boots but that would cost alot so probably never gonna get it idk
TJ, Excellent footage!
After watching your and other vids out there I am right on the fence between Mercury and Super DOA. I am an experienced rider but coming back after a few years of hiatus - life happens :). All the new tech is overwhelming!
1) How chatty is Super DOA? The board looked very stable and "quiet" on groomers and landings in your vid. Dare I take it to the back bowls?
2) Merc sounds like the better board for the back bowls (where I spend most of the day) where things could get fast.. Though the fun for me is the canyons, natural features, weaving through moguls, switching it up while jumping... mach 10 carving does not really interest me that much, but precision and control are important.
What's everyone's take on the two boards for the kind of riding I really want to focus on this season?
Ive had a mercury for a few years now. After riding tons of other boards ive never been one one that can do everything as well as the mercury does. That and its an extremely durable and well built board. Couldnt recommend it more.
I feel the way the dood above does about the Super DOA
Get the mega merc...merc shape, superdoa tech.
@@Matthew-re9pb thanks for the suggestion. I looked hard at the Mega Merc and on paper it makes sense. However, from the reviews it seems to have very specific "tone" if you will. I am looking for a shop around Denver to demo it.
@@masondixon1718 well it awesome that you have found that trusty riding companion. I will try to demo the Super DOA but something tells me its just too expensive and flies off the shelves too fast to be in a demo fleet
Would the Solomon Assassin be close to this list? I just moved from Arbor Westmark camber, which was too stiff for me and love the Assassin. Was hoping it made the cut! Love the vids as always!
Hi, Can I ask you, what bindings would you put on that super DOA? I saw that you ride it with Union Atlas, is it normal or pro? Or is it ok to have it with Union Ultra? Thanks :))
TJ, I know the Evil Twin didn't make this list but I've been eyeing it up. It's been a few years of not riding (kids!), but want to get back into it. Live on the east (Ice) coast and just wanted to know if the Evil Twin (+) is worth it for our sub par conditions? I ride (an old Solamon Twin 151) all over the mountain and love the park and pipe if there is one. Would the Arbor Westmark be a better choice for the icy conditions since it has the side bites? Thanks in advance for the help.
im an east coast rider in PA. the evil twin rips . it's a full camber board and i personally think that the 3BT doesn't make it "worse" on ice , you just have to learn how to ride it in bad conditions . i personally hate the serrated contact point technology as it feels like dragging an ice pic behind you and ruins the sensation of snowboarding but some people like it. The Evil Twin is a perfectly fine east coast board .
@@efist694 Thank you for the help bro. Appreciate the assist!
@@richscoza4362 no problem. just my .02. 3BT and edge tech are both love it or hate it seems like so if you can find a place that'll let you demo an evil twin definitely do that
I would say I’m a intermediate to advanced rider and I don’t know what board to get next. I’ve been riding a capita pathfinder for the last season and a half but I’m not a big fan of it anymore. I want a board that will handle well at high speeds, good on groomers, playful, and decent in powder. If you could help out that would be awesome.
Sounds like a bataleon Goliath to me?
Depends on what profile you enjoy riding
Rocker under the feet? Trice pro
Camber? sdoa or evil twin plus
Camrock? Try the Mercury from capita
Freeride focused? Black snowboard of death, lib skunk ape
If you’re looking for a 159W I have a new(still in plastic) Gnu Hyper I’d sell for $50 less than the $600 I just paid. I believed it to be more of a park board when I bought it.
surprised you picked the rocker version of the Westmark. why not camber?
I was only selecting from boards I have spent time on in the last couple of seasons, I haven't ridden the camber version in quite a while. That is still one of my personal favorites though, still a very unique and capable snowboard.
I also just wanted to include a solid rocker dominant board in this list for the people who like the feel and benefits of reverse camber.
What do you think about the twinpig this year?
Hey TJ what about the capita mega merc?
TJ! What angles and stance width do you ride with?
15, -15 around 21.5" stance
Any directional shape to recommend ?
How about the Yes 🔥 Standard?
Nice breakdown, TJ! Everyone keeps telling me the Capita DOA is the best
I bought that board a few months back. I'm super curious how it will do when I'm on the mountain in februari!
Hey, nice video!
I used a never summer hybrid board (PROTO HD) for 7 years and im hitting S-M jumps and 50-50 on rails. Outside the park i really like to go fast do a little carving (not so aggressive) but mostly side hits and popping in the transactions. Buying a new board is a huge "event" for me so, what board you think it suits me the most?
Help me guys!! I dont think TJ wil answer 🤣
Go for the whatever ✌️
Can we just appreciate for a moment how hard this dudes rips?:O
Bataleon Whatever 2022
Can someone guide me to choosing my first board ….. I’m between K2 Raygun & Nitro T1
Does anyone know how well the Battalion Whatever and/or the Season Nexus handles icy runs?
I’m assuming the Nexus holds the icy spots better, but are either of them good on ice, compared to something like magne-traction?
I picked up both Nexus and Aero boards for this season. Ran both a few days in stiff and icy conditions in PA.
Agree with other comment here that Nexus gets a bit squirrelly at higher speeds, especially on firm ground. Aero was noticably more stable in those conditions. I do like the Nexus so far, but have been riding the Aero more just due to the conditions and my riding style. Nexus would definitely be excellent in powder and it's a got a great flex and overall stability. Liking the both so far.
@@nickhewlett4022Good to know. Thanks
Should i buy Nitro Team Pro or Burton Custom
nitroだよ✊
As always a solid list that makes me want to buy more Snowboards haha... but i really dont need to.
Would love to see you on a Yes Typo... which could be a contender for this list.
And that Lago x CW Double Barrel you have been hording away 😁
bear mtn!
How about 2023 ride mtnpig?
Bro 1/100 like ratio oh my god it deserves more
TJ is just ripping man
thanks homie!
Salomon assassin should be up here!
Do you know why David hasn’t uploaded
golden orca
Arbor consistently gets love from everyone. I remember when I had the westmark rocker like 6 years ago and it was high on everyone's list. I usually feel like boards fade in and out, but this board is on everyones list All The Time. I love that board.
Have the Westmark Camber Frank April from a couple years back and its a fantastic board! I want to try the rocker now that it has the upturned nose and tail - that just looks like it would be a hoot to ride.
Yeww
missing: Nitro Team Pro - such a superb Do It All Style Board! I hope you get to review it TJ! Awesome stuff as always!
I got a season nexus last season and have been enjoying it. I ride an evil twin most of the time but take out the nexus whenever there's fresh snow and it has great float and seems to be super nimble in trees, turns effortlessly. I think that mixed with it being a bit on the more flexible side makes it feel just slightly unstable at high speed which took a bit of getting used to but overall I'm happy with it.
That's a solid combo, I'm on the ET+ and Nexus this season as my personal boards this season hahah. Yeah the Nexus isn't a charger but I think that is part of the charm
What mountain is that at 3:15 ?
No way Burton is on this list without a payment to tha biz. Burton is the Balenciaga of snowboarding. Total shit.
Finally a list with some capita love…
hahah the Super DOA is definitely a top candidate for this one!
I love how much variety TJ always brings to the table. But I do agree. Capita is the goat
@@BoardArchive ever try a mega mercury? If I have a super doa is it worth it or are they pretty similar?
Bought the Super DOA because of TJ, never had a better board in every way!
review of boards but with a level of riding of a professional...men, what style!!!
hey tj! when the free thinker review coming?
Huge vid
thanks for checking it out
Hey TJ, how wouldyou compare the Burton Blossom to the Burton Free Thinker & Custom camber? Thanks.
Sick!
What brand of pants are you wearing in this video?
Demo the battalion thunder plz ❤
So many good boards
for an intermediate rider, would you recommend the bataleon goliath (or +), bataleon evil twin (or +), or the capita super doa? Also wondering what bindings you would recommend paring with each of these boards.
what kind of riding do you like to focus on? like what kind of terrain
@@BoardArchive i’m a resort rider and am starting to spend more time in the park.
@@carsonrader7246 Super DOA and Goliath are probably both more board than you need or even want right now they are fairly aggressive. They're boards you could progress into if you're down to ride something stiffer but might be a little uncomfortable for the time being. I think the Whatever would be more fun and still a really nice choice for progression. I'd point you towards the Whatever, or maybe the regular DOA if you want to go proper true twin but even that might still be a little stiffer than you want. Hope that helps
The super DOA and Goliath are pretty aggressive, I would definitely go with a bit less board then that as an intermediate. Perhaps the regular DOA would be a great option! It offers that stability outside the park and is a ton of fun inside the park. Consider the DOA the super DOA’s little brother.. but don’t underestimate it. That regular DOA is hard to max out and can definitely handle its own outside the park, and is a ton of fun inside the park!
The evil twin and whatever or whatever beyond medals are super easy to learn on and hone them skills. Like TJ said the Goliath might be a little too aggressive for somebody just beginning.
great footage
First!! Love what you do TJ keep it up! YEWWW
Got em! Thank you homie!
thank you for including the #seasonNexus .. love it.
Are you not recommending the Pig Series anymore? Or just don t test it over and over again. I was wondering, bcs you recommended it for years and now I didn’t hear of any Ride boards for a while from you.
Really appreciate your reviews!! I've seen you rolling on the union ultra's along with your atlas's.... When can we get a review on those bad boys?!
Any thoughts on cardiff snowboards? I just bought the crane and it's been a dream in both park and in the pow
@boardarchive Where are you snowboarding at 3:18? It looks amazing!!
Badass video like always TJ!
I picked up the 2022-2023 Capita Navigator. Can’t wait! Few more weeks
How does the Blossom compare to the Capita Outsiders cause they seem similar on paper?
How does the Burton freethinker 2023 compare on this list???
Did you try the bataleon whatever beyond medals? Do you think it's still good for intermediate riders and some buttering?
Dude!! Love the vid. I just bougth the normal D.O.A. It is amazing!!
2023 gnu essential service for the win.
Love my westmark camber first season on it and it’s been so fun progressing jumps and holds well on groomers. Grip tech takes some getting used to on carves tho
Can u try the jones all mountain or frontier
Can you do a ride zero review
No Jones Mountain Twin?
pedazooo,
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Skilllz
I have a Bataleon Whatever, 154cm. I'm 5'8", 165lbs, shoe size 43 Euro or 8.5 US. I'm on my 3rd season of snowboarding, but skateboarded for about 15 years and surfed for 20 years. I have 4 snowboards. This board is awesome for me. It's like a skateboard. I don't have to think about turning it because it turns when I want it to, unlike other boards I have to guide around the turns. And it will not catch an edge with the 3-D profile. I have a Bataleon Party Wave that I was catching edges on a lot when I started out. I think that board needs to be moving faster because it's so wide, then it won't catch. But this one is so light and responsive. It never catches edge. It's a blast to ride. I do agree that it seems to have some limits, like when I want to go super fast and have it track a straight line. It kind of dances a little bit in comparison to my LibTech Orca. And the base doesn't seem as fast as my Orca or my Jones Mountain Twin. But it's so much fun. Last season after I got it, I never rode any other boards unless there was a lot of powder, like a foot or more. Anyone who is a beginner through intermediate should consider this board. Bateleon is a great company.
Just curious Have you ridden any burton boards? I'm fairly new to snowboarding and was looking at the process camber
@@dsd-downshiftdave8056 honestly in my personal opinion(not that you asked me)but Bataleon is the shit. Especially if you want to hone your skills. Very easy to control the whatever and Very hard to catch an edge. I have 3 different Bataleon boards. Goliath, evil twin, and the whatever beyond medals which is a step up from the regular whatever. I started on a lib tech skate banana and I hated that thing. That thing was an edge catching machine.
@@Crumpled4skin111 I’m a newer snowboarder and I’m looking for a do it all board but I lean more towards tree runs and don’t do a lot of park. Would this be a good board for me?
@@canadianbacon5474 it’s an all mountain freestyle board so definitely. I’ve hit tree runs with all of my boards. Still the whatever beyond medals is my favorite so far though. Just the control I have with it is on point. That’s just my opinion though. You can hit tree runs with any board though. It all depends on preference. I would definitely recommend this for a beginner to learn on.
@@Crumpled4skin111my Gnu skate banana never catches. It’s too forgiving.
Thanks for these reviews and recommendation videos, they're great.
I'm an intermediate rider in Europe who likes the idea of 3BT.
I am considering the Whatever, but I won't be riding much park, generally am riding with skiers. So am wondering if I would be better off with the Goliath for more stability at speed and a longer term board.
Would the Goliath be too much board for an intermediate rider in your opinion? And if I go with the Whatever is it capable for charging on piste?
If you ride not that much park and are not interested in butters, then consider the Goliath bc of the stiffer flex. The whatever definitely has some limitations in terms of charging and carving. You can also consider the whatever beyond medals. It’s basically the whatever with a stiffer flex so it’s better for All Mountain riding (also has a really nice design)
so I just bought an arbor Westmark rocker. it was recommended to me by a shop based off what I am looking for. I currently ride a yes the Y directional board which is pretty stiff. I like it for carving but I am looking to get into buttering tricks and riding switch. so I wanted a true twin that could still ride the whole mountain. My main concern is I got the rocker which sounds good for buttering but I feel I might struggle with carving. I board in the east so powder isn't really I thing here sadly. I have never ridden a rocker board so I guess I will see how it goes. I can still return it and I was wondering if you had any suggestions before I take it out. IM a smaller rider about 5'6 140lbs. Im really looking for a board that I can butter with but still have fun on the mountain. I don't do much park but I may give it a try. The capita DOA seems like a good fit for me but I'm wondering if it will be to stiff for learning buttering Thanks for the dope videos and I would really appreciate your thoughts.
Have you used it yet how did it go, coming from another east coast rider
I have a good amount of time on this board this season. It's surprising good for being a rocker. But you definitely find its limitation on steep slopes when its a bit icy. It's been a blast for learning buttering and flat ground tricks since it's less catchy. for jumps it's good but you don't get that soft landing like a board with camber. I have taken it to the park a few times but truthly the park isn't that fun for me. It's defiantly a playful board that can carve okay for being a rocker. That being said if your looking for a true all mountain board I think their are better options. My next board will be a hybrid camber/rocker. Now if you're more of a park rider then I think this board would be a better fit. It's also a nice board to learn switch on.@@Velvety353
The one I bought this year didn't make your list. It's brand new though so maybe you didn't get a chance to test. I bought the YES std Uninc and it rips. Not had it out on a deep day yet so I'll be interested to see how it gets on being camber. I like it so far though.
The Standard looks dope, I've never tried that one but I have enjoyed the YES boards that I have ridden over the years. They make good boards.
@@BoardArchive they certainly build solid boards. I think this is a good compromise for a "do everything board". A deep day will be the test. It's a volume shifted twin so the extra board will help with float how well the camber will do alongside that will also be key. Midbite helps with edgehold and a slightly narrower waist make it more nimble with the added heft in the nose and tail. Try one out if you get the chance. I'm sure you'd like it too.
Burton Blossom is the best park snowboard on the Planet! but certainly not an all-mountain board.
Why not
@@BoardArchive First, Burton rates each board in 3 categories on its website. (Park - All Mountain - Powder) Secondly, the Blossom is a parkboard that does not have the property to score points in the category Freeride, carving etc. Because the shape is simply designed for park and tricks. A typical freeride board can't be the best parking board either. For example, a Burton Custom has been an all-mountain board for years, but not a super half-pipe or killer freeride powder board.
What skill level would you say the arbor westmark is best for?
I own the camber and I would put a beginner on it (I am not a beginner so its good for when you advance too). But get it shorter than you think because the running edge is long for its size, my 153 has an edge like a normal 158. Very poppy, great for jumps and carves and does not catch edges when you get lazy. Great boards!
Never thought I’d see the where TJ picks the westmark rocker over camber🤣 I remember your frank April edition from couple seasons ago 😍
hahah man that was already over 4 years ago! time flys!
Have you had a chance to test the ride shadowban?
How much stiffer is the Super DOW compared to the white Goliath you rode? I have the Goliath and love it but was thinking about grabbing the Super DOA
Just bought the Bataleon whatever beyond medals and it is money!
What do you love about it? In what terrain and snow?
@@awiegwa EVERYTHING! You can pound out all terrain. Stiffer than than the regular whatever so you don’t get the chatter in the nose and tail. Has a super surfy feel and i have so much control with it. I had the lib tech skate banana a while back and I hated that thing so I went and got the Bataleon Goliath, then the evil twin, then the beyond medals. Goliath is aw-ite, the evil twin is dope, but this beyond medals if far more superior.
@@Crumpled4skin111 Thank you!
@@awiegwa of course! Happy boarding. 🏂💨 ❄️