100% Garnisment! Yes, Your Check CAN be Garnished 100%!!!
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- David's garnishments have reached 100% and he can no longer earn an income...
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lost for words..... i am shocked they any Gov't agency actually thinks they can take 100% of your income and expect you to keep showing to work for free and somehow absorb the costs of life on a weekly basis, unbelievable!
Steamed Vegdaballs This is the second time it's happened to me, the first was with Durham when I was employed with them. When it's the state or the government, they can take everything you have, cripple you financially, and then punish you again for not being able to keep up after your income is gone.
ouch, under the table time
And they wonder how people can end up on the street.
That's what happens when the letter of the law is more important than justice.
The letter of the law meant nothing when she wouldn't let me see my kids in defiance of a court order. This after me spending 54k on a legal bill, 45k lump sum settlement to her and $701 after tax child support every month from 1996 to when they were 18.
FMEP is all about money. It should also be about Dads seeing their kids.
What a mess. Only thing I can think of is to become a handyman. Tell people "I like cash". I've got a friend who does this, has been self employed for years, and is happier than when he worked for corporate America. He found that there are lots of older folks who can't afford a more expensive handyman to meet their basic needs, so the underground economy helps both out.
It's sad that we left Europe 200+ years ago to avoid debtors prisons, and then set up similar scenario's here. :(
Just hearing this. How very sad what the government does to its people. Very distressing.
I'm shocked. I didn't think people were stupid enough to want to garnish someone's income for 100%. All that does is motivate the person not to work, or to keep switching jobs (as you mentioned). These lawyers are spineless and must be trying to cash in on you for a quick buck
Unbelievable. I was naive enough to believe that this wasn’t possible. They don’t have “debtors prison” anymore but they will starve you out ?
Yes, they can and will ruin you...
The idea that HUGE corporations get away with taking their money offshore to avoid taxes, but hardworking people like you are punished for things like this, makes me fucking sick to my stomach.
There are thousands of people getting crushed like this and the system doesn't care so long as they get theirs.
This is why people go postal.
It is extremely frustrating!
either they go postal or they commit suicide with an angry letter to those who fucked them over so thoroughly
Sprax he's half way there. he already looks like the guy with the bat from the walking dead
This is insane. Why would they take all of your income? Do they expect to actually be paid when you are unable to work?
Anthony Martin This is how they set an example with their zero tolerance clauses. I become an example to others to scare them into keeping up payments, even though their actions are what are crippling me.
Your story is the same as mine, and I live in the UK. Seems the only solution would be going Breaking' Bad lol.
+Jon Hart A lot of western industrial countries seem to be following the same patterns...
Jon - it seems a lot of us had terrible mothers from hell. If I knew I would wind up with someone that crazy and irrational I would escape but had no money. Luckily knowing what I know I been able to manage to pray to God and asked him to please make different not like my mother when I had my daughter and my son. Both had a good mom that loves them and I thank God for that. They are happy children and now adults thank God.
i have the same problem,it kills me ,,,if i quit my job my kids will suffer.that's not what i want, if the judge would have lowered CS by 50$ i would be fine..i don't understand what they are thinking.!!
They simply don't care. It's not their problem. They just expect you to obey and it never crosses their minds what you may have to go through to follow their orders.
does anybody have any advice???
You don't understand what they're thinking? I do. They don't care about you or your kids. Period.
he mentioned one garnishment was for CHILD SUPPORT.....how are we not commenting on this matter. Still yet his situation is unbelievable.
"Wage ATT" means child support garnishment
What happenned to legal aid overthere ?
Wow, I have never personally seen anything like this before...I don't even know what to say. How are you holding up? What does your wife think of all this? I feel badly for all of you!
Adrienne Dowty How am I holding up? Things could be better. I find myself increasingly angry. The coils are tightening around me, I'm almost out of gas and I'll lose my phone next. My wife is concerned for me, but she is alright. We keep our financial situations separate and she is safe from my financial troubles so long as we keep it that way.
Go to court...they are not supposed to put you in financial hardship....at least here I Indiana.
It depends on who's doing the garnishments. If it's taxes or child support there is no leniency.
Time to move to Canada!
what a fuckin shitstorm of a situation......in this case: my shotgun would look MIGHTY friendly!
You are in my prayers
I'll take all the prayers I can get...
Damn! I can't stand seeing people getting fucked over like that. Those people just have a big laugh about it down there in city hall. If it were me I would kiss this country good bye! Good luck to you Sir!
I've had that experience. I've been to court and been laughed at by the judge and prosecutor and told that I had no rights. It's not even worth it to go and try to fight those things. I was thinking about doing a video about that experience.
David Gudgeon
Go ahead and write about your experiences with the big Ass holes who have authority over us. It'll probably make you feel better about the ordeal..Their minds are so twisted that they forget that their jobs are suppose to be fair and impartial and they wonder why people in general despise the government! Like I said , it's funny as hell to those people when they do that because they know that most people lack the resources to fight back.
Wow this is screwed up
That is crazy..
I have had similiar issues in the past if can contract or subcontract your on work you can get your money before the powers that be have a chance to take it
I am so sorry brother. You're not a dead beat dad. Keep your chin up, things will turn around.
Find a cash job if all possible and get a part time on the books, hopefully that will lower it and keep them at bay.. best of luck! I know pain.
They sure as hell don't make it easy!
Hey David this is really a stroke of bad luck man...OMG...this is the heights of evil...how cold can some humans be...i am indeed speechless!...these people are like stalkers following you wherever you go...i hope things work out for you!
+Boa I It's like when you make a mistake with your debit card and the bank charges you $28 for it. You already don't have any money, but they want to force you to pay more. I've been put in a position where I can't earn a living, but they expect more and more all the time.
Can you declare bankruptcy and get rid of some of this debt?
+Sharon R If I can pay for a bankruptcy attorney.
+David Gudgeon you don't need an attorney David. look up leagueofdads bankruptcy they can help you. god speed David.
Very interesting (informative and well-explained) example of how indiscriminate black&white thinking about wage garnishments can be a catch 22. I really appreciate learning new things. Sorry about your struggle, but thank you for the spark of education, I'm going to do some research of my own.
Bottom line, the system doesn't care what happens to you so long as they get theirs. For example, I've read that there is a concern over the number of people who commit suicide who owe the IRS. Now if people are killing themselves to get away from you, then I think that's a pretty good sign that there's a problem with the way the system is set up.
if your working & someone takes all your money you go to work & get paid right the co does pay you but the gov takes your money so the gov as made you a slave to any co you work for
That about sums it up... Not that I wasn't a slave anyway since the government takes a percentage of my check regardless.
& would add anyone that don't make money todo any shopping where they work only & they give all their money back to them they are slaves also sadly
You need to speak with an
accountant that does bankruptcies asap
... and for a time you could do handyman jobs
and yard maintenance for people
and receive cash for your work until you are
employed at another job ...
Hanging in there as best I can...
They aren't allowed more than 2 garnishment at the same time. You need to go to the Dept of child srvs or whatever it's called there and bring in that pay stub and request to lower your child support payment to a min amount as well as the back support. That is not $50 per month so total it's $100 a month. The union fees don't count as a garnishment so that's not really much you can do there. That's a good job I hope you were able to keep it. I can offer you some advice as I have some experience navigating through some difficulties which you are currently finding yourself in.
I thought I was screwed when I found myself with 9 Grand in credit card debt. I can't imagine how it would feel to be 17 Grand + in debt. Is there any way you could work out some type of debt consolidation deal or perhaps Bankruptcy?
mookixox He would have to hire an attorney, with what? No money left.
mookixox you shouldn't have to go in to bankruptcy! If your only earning $200-300 per week a cost of living scale needs to be applied, if this happened you would see that David cannot pay anything at the moment all garnishments should be removed until he gets a better / 2nd job
That really seems illegal. I've never been garnished but I always thought they could only take 25% of your net income. I also thought there could only be one active garnishment at a time, then the next one starts and so on. I was wrong I guess. How is someone supposed to keep working if they have no income
It should be illegal. But then most laws aren't really designed to protect the individuals interest. They are geared more towards state and corporate interests. Bottom line is the golden rule, (he who has the gold makes the rules)...
that's messed up. my thoughts n prayers. time to head out I'd say. GB:)
Hey I have good news! As it turns out only a judge, acting in his public capacity , with jurisdiction, etc. COURT documents MUST have a filed stamp on them with clerk signature, and the date filed or they are not valid. Child support enforcement agency is a private corporation NOT PART of the government, there CONTRACTED thru the executive branch of government. Child support enforcement agency decided to use an expedited administrative process, rather than a court of law, for the convenience of child support enforcement agency. A expedited administrative process is not a court of law, it's a fake hearing. What their doing is criminal. It's all a scam! Check out A man Osiris, and or Rick W on you tube they go through and show you what's going on. What the law says, and what there policies are and wow major criminal activity.
Is this for child support only?
Why don't you file bankruptcy protection?
Bankruptcy won't protect you from taxes.
Don't work for free bud it's not worth it. You need your energy for yourself till you can figure it all out. Zero income seems the only way to keep them from leeching you to death. You'll live with shame labels much easier than a stroke. This stuff is insane. Can you involve a high level Government branch? Like it sounds so brutal and extreme. When I was in one of my rehabs stints I roomed with a guy who had child support payments. He was a roofer, they took his license, he couldn't work, hence no child support WTF?!
Your case is severe man I have never heard this kind of torment in a western country.
They want to bleed me dry, but won't let me earn anything. Then they complain that I can't give them enough. You should see the mess I have to deal with in family court over my youngest son. When dealing with the government or the state when they say "zero tolerance" what they really mean is "no ethics or morals".
It's piled up on you man. I never had kids I can tell that weighs on your mind heavy. You must be under unbelievable stress man, you may not be "able" to handle this right now. I went on disability for a while, I had to I was losing my mind with stress and anxiety.
David. When will incredulity move over and make room for acquiesce. You are an educated man, right? This is what that "education" did not bring to you, that unique ability to differentiate between matters within your control, and those outside of your control. The 3.74 gpa has indeed failed you, as has the system from which it was spawned, with all of it's false facets.
Don't despair, we are all gathered here; with you. It is not a dream, Kansas has gone "bye, bye", and now it is time to realize and resign the failure for what it is. Stop beating yourself up. Don't go back for more....there is more than enough structured violence to go around and, some, like you, have taken much more than others. Thank you for your story, hopefully others will hear it. Peace.
pjamesbda Hoping others will hear the story is part of it. Partly in hopes to educate others who may be approaching the same predicaments, and partly so that I can have a voice if at all. if the courts and the system won't listen, somebody will hear what I have to say. The GPA does me no good now, only the education I received in The School of Hard Knox, hence the title of the program.
David, - as a fellow Jay-hawker I identified with much of what you've described. We took different paths, but the outcomes are similar. You mention that the online excruciating rendition of your demise is driven by a hope that someone will hear your "voice", and it will in some way help them navigate the labyrinth.
Instead of college, I studied Carlos Castaneda who said this behavior was that of a conceited man, seeking either to be admired or pitied. He said a warrior understands that he must stalk power, and not divest his limited energies in self indulgence. Additionally, he said we should be cognizant that this demeanor of "no pity" comes from an awareness, that ultimately we are also being stalked, by virtue of our own predictable patterns of behavior. We should instead focus on disrupting these patterns, and of destroying personal history.
There's that...and there is the other side of that.
Will send the rest if you like...(don't want to go too far unless it "helps").
MY sons father went and is going through this they did exactly the same thing to him ! and he would quit his job and every few months work again ! cause they would blind side him with child support not just my son but his other kids in san diego county my son is now going to be 23 yrs old and they are still hitting his dad hard ! i really commend you because you were working and trying ! i am thinking that the reason that the child support is so hard on the dads because they make more then the moms do ! i want to say that my kids dad have paid the same amount for years and i have never taken them back asking for more ! and i can assure you that every penny is spent on my kids ! i really feel for a lot of the fathers i really belive that the courts need to look at them as equal to the moms and make things fair !
Jumping jobs is how a lot of people try to handle it but that's a hard way to go.
YES IT IS FOR HIM NOW HE MOVED TO OKLAHOMA THINKING THAT HE WOULD NOT BE FOUND THEY FOUND HIM ! I AM REALLY SORRY THAT CHILD SUPPORT GOES AFTER PEOPLE WHO ARE AT LEAST TRYING LIKE YOU THEY SHOULD CUT YOU SOME SLACK ! THAT IS PAINFUL FOR THEM TO TAKE YOUR WHOLE CHECK LIKE THAT OMG ! I DONT EVEN KNOW HOW I WOULD FEEL AS A PARENT ! MY DAUGHTERS FATHER LIVES IN IND AND HE WAS THEY WERE TAKING 285 OUT OF HIS CHECK AND HE WORKS FAST FOOD AND THAT WAS KILLING HIM NOW HE PAYS 185 AND THAT IS OK AND HE SENDS HER STUFF FOR SCHOOL BIRTHDAYS ECT ! BUT I CAN NEVER IMAGINE BEING SO VINDICTIVE AND ASKING COURTS FOR THE WHOLE CHECK ! I KNOW THAT HE HAS TO LIVE PAY BILLS AND EAT TO ! MY HEART REALLY GOES OUT TO YOU ! PRAY AND ASK GOD TO HELP YOU ! HE WILL
David- have you contacted any of the father's rights groups? You should! They'll help you find a pro bono lawyer who can help with these asinine garnishments & getting more visitations. Also, write to Dr. Phil. Seriously!
Any suggestions? I was kind of on a merry-go-round with that. I'm in Illinois, my son is in Kansas, and my first ex who is "supposed" to be paying me child support, (and never did) is in Nevada. Every agency I contact tells me they can't help me and it needs to be handled in a different state.
@@CoffeeTalkLive yes ! Dr Phil !
Your life story is truly one to tell .
I've hardly heard any of it , 3 videos about your childhood , the documentary, now two of the update videos. I am totally intrigued......
So do you want anyone to offer advice? What state are you in for starts?
***** I'll take any help I can get...
David Gudgeon
Well, if you make under 15k a year go apply for medicaid. The best place to get dental insurance is through a discount dental plan at $100 a year. Sounds like bankruptcy would help. Put your student loans on the bankruptcy and file an adverserial hearing. Get it all wiped out. Then start looking for new career options where you have more control over it. Or side gigs- for instance just saw a company today called uber where you drive people around town for money. Or staff.com where you can get telemarketing gigs that you can do from home. But it sounds like a bankruptcy and fresh start is the way to go. I would talk to 2 different attorneys to see which one is better.
If som compagnie do that To me Man i quit at the minut !!!!
you need to look up amen Osiris or Rick w. on fighting back
Soooo do you still belive then USA is the bether contry in the whold !! No ! In Québec what have donne this compagnie ther gone be prosecuted !! see you here there is the standard of work! And any company and other we follow the law or if not! !!!
dude just save some money doing landscaping and flee to Bogota, Colombia. so much nicer to live abroad. you can make money tutoring in English
I live in Palatine
I work at the Addison Hub for 11 years and love it
Pay your bills and you wouldn't have that problem.
This whole society is a predatory society. You should go on government assistance as long as necessary and talk to a lawyer on how many of those debts you can eliminate with a bankruptcy, or go live in another state. Also, I like your preper vids very much. You have to do what you have to do. You are very insightful. How did you get into prepping?
Got into it when I learned how predatory the whole system is several years ago. You're a lot better off being self sufficient.
Dude. You need to disappear. You did your best, more than most other people would.
I recommend somewhere warm and tropical in Latin America. From what i understand while extradition treaties mean that you can be extradited for a criminal offense of significant merit to warrant it. Contempt of court for non payment of child support or garnishment isn't going to get someone extradited. I think only a few Anglo nations like UK, Canada, Australia and some western European countries have bilateral treaties which enforce this.
I've heard that about Latin America...
Tgis is horrible! I know it is an older video but what is the current status of tjis particular debt. Are you still paying them or you found a way to dodge the bullet?
No, I'm still pretty much screwed...
Coffee Talk I am so sorry to hear.
may allah make it easy on you... I'm going through the same thing smh
Hang in there!
Sorry, it might be stupid. But can't you file bankruptcy and start all over again? How rich people file bankruptcy so many times even tho they have money and are still rich.
Because they can afford the bankruptcy. You don't get to do it for free. And bankruptcy cannot include taxes or student loans.
I just checked fees and they are not that high. You seem smart enough to do it without attorney and you were talking about some credit card loans. I havent heard you talking about student loans. For taxes, as far as I know, you can make deal with them (which I think you already did?) And have payments. I watched a lot of your videos and you seem smart enough not to be in such situation. You need to make moves to get out of it, not to keep dragging it any longer.
The problem with bankruptcy it takes a while to get your records cleaned. Also, "credit" is essential if you have to buy a car or a house. So you may want to check further with attorneys but ask a lot of questions - don't want you to lose out on opportunities even jobs. Can you get a job working from home, like I do, and get paid adequately? I work scheduling appointments for companies to meet with new clients which is what I do. I wish I was rich to help others but am trying to survive. Take care. Angela
You look like Neegan from The Walking Dead lol
I'm not sure if it works the same in Canada? I hope you pulled thru tho man, as its over 2 years now since then?
This is late....dang dude you wont suport your own kids....wow
..come on....if y ou cant support dont play the game...who is supporting them now....better not be ME i know things are tough.....but you have to make better choices...good luck....learn from this
this
Work a 2nd job, dude.