just gotta practice it until your hands get into muscle memory, which shouldn’t take long since the verse riffs are some of the most fun, rhythm-based riffs ever, and then learn where the notes sync up with words, and you’ll have it.
@@DanielLightspeedMcNair You explained it 10x better than I could ever explain it! I'm also glad i'm not the only one who understands the whole "notes sync up with the words" approach. It seems like a lot of people try to have 2 separate brains when playing this, one for the guitar and one for the vocals...I tried the 2 separate brains approach at first and got totally lost. When singing and playing this song, I noticed its not good to see the vocals and guitar as 2 separate entities because nothing will match up in your head if you try to see them as separate, and when you switch your focus between the two while playing. But when you see the vocals and guitar as one entity (in other words, seeing where the words sync with the notes and just letting your hands do the work), it's so much easier to pull off.
Interesting you say that, I actually was surprised how sloppy the guitars sound in the isolated track compared to the final mix. I think it's Dave Ellefson who actually brings the real clarity to this song! Check out the bass+drums only live version, think it's Menza and Ellefson - sounds incredible!
@@AdamRobertshaw I agree, it wasn't as tight. I was hearing the little inconsistencies they threw me off when trying to learn by ear as a kid. Martyb though is clean
By the way the rhythms were all played with the full band. No click track/metronome. That's why it sounds so raw and energized. Just a pure gem of a metal song that will live on forever. 🤟
Dont mind this comment, just using this to hopefully learn this song one day: 0:10 chuggy main riff with pauses (because fuck people who wanna learn this song right) 1:27 verse riff 2:13 acoustic solo 2:39 second main riff 4:36 harmonics riff
@@user-go3nd6mw4e I dont think I'll ever understand the mixing process that went into that album, but I think it's a good example of why bass actually *is* important to metal. Ive also noticed that when people dial in their own guitar tone, they have way too much low end, I guess not realizing that the final mix tone they're replicating was achieved with adding Bass
The guitars don’t have much low end. It’s needed to get all the good rhythmic action. I tried to play it with more low end and it’s just a muddy mess. The bass is very imperative. It’s not an easy song on bass. Ellefson is a monster. I just found a guy who covered this song with only fingers on bass. Utter insanity. “The bass channel” I think the channel is called. Look it up it’s seriously impressive. I can’t even play it properly with a pick on bass😂😂.
@@Snavels it was done to haze jason as flemming rasmussen said in a recent interview, lars told him to pretty much pull the volume of the bass as low as possible. flemming did have a "proper" mix, but he had to follow lars' orders, and at the end, the analogue tapes pretty much deteriorated and can never be recovered anymore
Examining those kind of isolated tracks reveals more of the fact that how today's bands are influenced with their predecessors and build their sound and riffing on them. This tone and riffing alone, reminds me a lot of Lamb of God. Especially Sacrament album if to be specific.
@@Snavels Yeah these riffs sound similar, but in Symphony of Destruction its too simplified and groovy, and to me it doesn't have that "dungeons and castles in an rainy autumn forest" otherworldly melody, lol! In other words, it doesn't sounds like mid 90s european metal. I hope you understand what I mean 😅
he used it plenty lmao, just off the top of my head i can think of chosen ones, mechanix, wake up dead, the conjuring, devils island, 502, five magics, and there’s probably a crap ton more
This is somehow less impressive than the isolated tracks from other bands I've been hearing. I think it's because the clarity and guitar focused nature of RIP didn't bury anything, it's all there to hear in its full majesty, so this isolated recording doesn't have that novelty. Still, a metal masterpiece right here.
MrIceman967 Exactly. The album didn't hide the guitar to begin with, so the isolated tracks aren't mind blowing to me. The whole album is mind blowing as is. With the other isolated tracks to be found on TH-cam (let's say And Justice For All for instance) the isolated tracks bring out things you never hear when listening to the album because the guitars lost clarity among everything else, so hearing them is almost like hearing the song for the first time. With the RIP tracks, it's more like "yep, that's the guitar. It's still amazing and perfect, but nothing new." It's a compliment to the original recording.
Andy Oliphant I mostly agree but I think the places where they play 3rds instead of 5ths in the rhythm tracks are a little clearer when isolated. But yeah, this sound the most like the album even though it's guitars only for sure!
MrIceman967 do you know how to get a clarity in mix like u say? So when in mixed the guitar is still "clear" is that has something to do with EQ or what? I wanna record some song next few months
@@thirteenthandy Megadeth did that earlier. It took me decades to figure out that Dave does pickscratches on Good Mourning/Black Friday. Saw him practice it live on some video and he did it there. Dug up the isolated guitar track and those things are there. Just buried under the mix, but you can hear them later once you know they're there.
According to Dave, he would record two rhythm tracks one panned left, one panned right and have the second guitarist do one single rhythm track up the center.
Yeah, it's fairly unique to Megadeth as well. I don't know many if any other bands that do it that way. Most have one guitarist do all the rhythm tracks (Metallica, Slayer after Divine Intervention) One player on the left and one player on the right (Slayer before Divine Intervention, Slipknot) or the Morrisound way which is to have both guitarists do one left and right rhythm track each (Death - Human, Sepultura - Beneath The Remains).
Dave's picking attack is spot on. James is right up there. Both play spider chords which was something Dave came up to limit slider up the neck for certain chord progression.
James doesn't play the spider chord, its Dave's patented technique. Dave also does a lot of other crazy stuff on the rhythm. James is known for his godly down-picking on the other hand tho.
@Sainandan Ramakrishnan No it's not Dave's "patented technique," nor it is even that innovative. I pretty much discovered it myself learning Symptom of the Universe when I first started playing guitar.
Out of all of the isolated guitar tracks I've been listening to lately, this one sounds the most like the actual song. As if nothing much is missing. I guess that just shows how Mustaine oriented this song is.
This would be actually true if mustaine remained in metallica, and after all he was lead and james was rhythm so james would sing and play this!! How cool!!
3:25
The only part of this song I can play
:-)
Ian H YOU ARE A GOD SEND! This is the only part I cant play right now and i wanted to learn it by ear
Hey ian
1:27 That fucking riff... one of the best riffs ever written if you ask me
I know right, this might be the singular riff that gets me into megadeth.
Just learned it today, it's so fucking good
That riff gives me a reason to live
For real man its sooo good and under rated
I’ve been saying this foreverrrr
2:42 one of the best metal riffs ever written
absolutely insanely brutal, probably my favourite
I LOVE THIS RIFF
It's a blast to play, I feel like a God when I play that riff
Not a Megadeth fan, not even a thrash metal fan but that is a sick riff
Wage the war
Playing this and singing at the same time is bonkers
yea i try it all the time. it is so very difficult
Shining Trapezoid it’s super easy. My voice sucks for singing tho :(
It’s not even that hard
just gotta practice it until your hands get into muscle memory, which shouldn’t take long since the verse riffs are some of the most fun, rhythm-based riffs ever, and then learn where the notes sync up with words, and you’ll have it.
@@DanielLightspeedMcNair You explained it 10x better than I could ever explain it! I'm also glad i'm not the only one who understands the whole "notes sync up with the words" approach. It seems like a lot of people try to have 2 separate brains when playing this, one for the guitar and one for the vocals...I tried the 2 separate brains approach at first and got totally lost. When singing and playing this song, I noticed its not good to see the vocals and guitar as 2 separate entities because nothing will match up in your head if you try to see them as separate, and when you switch your focus between the two while playing. But when you see the vocals and guitar as one entity (in other words, seeing where the words sync with the notes and just letting your hands do the work), it's so much easier to pull off.
That clarity. Shiiiiit! Mustaine's hands have magic.
you could say his hands have five magics
@@kirkthechugmasterjolly8051 Give me alchemy!
Interesting you say that, I actually was surprised how sloppy the guitars sound in the isolated track compared to the final mix. I think it's Dave Ellefson who actually brings the real clarity to this song! Check out the bass+drums only live version, think it's Menza and Ellefson - sounds incredible!
Adam Robertshaw Eleffson is a bass GOD.
@@AdamRobertshaw I agree, it wasn't as tight. I was hearing the little inconsistencies they threw me off when trying to learn by ear as a kid. Martyb though is clean
I fucking love this tone
Well, it's not bad. But i feel the tone on Countdown to extinction is so much better
@@asmo_1929 said no one ever
@@samueljansen6372 I wasn't speaking about the music, the sound quality is just better on Countdown to extinction
@@asmo_1929 of course mate
4:38 the greatest use of a guitar ever
This comment should be the only one pinned here.
true, best part in holy wars
4:37 Exactly. Harmonics was known to me (when I heard this for 1st time), but this part got me, I thought wow Dave knows how to do his stuff
By the way the rhythms were all played with the full band. No click track/metronome. That's why it sounds so raw and energized. Just a pure gem of a metal song that will live on forever. 🤟
Dont mind this comment, just using this to hopefully learn this song one day:
0:10 chuggy main riff with pauses (because fuck people who wanna learn this song right)
1:27 verse riff
2:13 acoustic solo
2:39 second main riff
4:36 harmonics riff
I tried learning this today and I have one question:
How the F U C K does he sing while playing this 1:27
@@NubsWithGuns It's been 3 years since the comment. I can play and sing it at the same time but it's still kind of uneasy. Props to Dave!
@@DzoniMakaroni ма лаган си
@@DzoniMakaroniwow I love the update. Still got it?
@@Quantavious75 Nope. I just sing now, I couldn't play this without singing, let alone with lol
@@DzoniMakaronii actually find this one very easy than other less notes riff idk why
2:53 this part feels so empty without the bass, almost to the point that i can hear it automatically in my head.
AJFA
@@user-go3nd6mw4e I dont think I'll ever understand the mixing process that went into that album, but I think it's a good example of why bass actually *is* important to metal.
Ive also noticed that when people dial in their own guitar tone, they have way too much low end, I guess not realizing that the final mix tone they're replicating was achieved with adding Bass
The guitars don’t have much low end. It’s needed to get all the good rhythmic action. I tried to play it with more low end and it’s just a muddy mess. The bass is very imperative. It’s not an easy song on bass. Ellefson is a monster.
I just found a guy who covered this song with only fingers on bass. Utter insanity.
“The bass channel” I think the channel is called. Look it up it’s seriously impressive.
I can’t even play it properly with a pick on bass😂😂.
@@Snavels it was done to haze jason
as flemming rasmussen said in a recent interview, lars told him to pretty much pull the volume of the bass as low as possible.
flemming did have a "proper" mix, but he had to follow lars' orders, and at the end, the analogue tapes pretty much deteriorated and can never be recovered anymore
1:27
best part
It's a brilliant riff
It´s when hands start to die in a horrific way
2:26 dat riff 😍
Ikr😩
Sounds like the riff was reused for Symphony of Destruction
@@_ProTrax It's called a joke buzzkill, I know my theory.
@@Snavels How was I supposed to tell that was a joke with the stupid shit people say on here
@@_ProTrax Yeah man you really aren't beating those buzzkill allegations. Getting all butthurt in the TH-cam comment section 💀😭
2:15 2:15 2:15 2:15
2:15 2:15 2:15 2:15
2:15 2:15 2:15 2:15
2:15 2:15 2:15 2:15
So you're saying you want us to go to 2:15?
B Real Thinks so
2:20 lol
Marty's part
It's like Arabic music
4:39
It just sound so raw
think this is a studio rough mix
@@bumsi7046 no sir. this is the guitar track ripped from the final studio mix.
Examining those kind of isolated tracks reveals more of the fact that how today's bands are influenced with their predecessors and build their sound and riffing on them.
This tone and riffing alone, reminds me a lot of Lamb of God. Especially Sacrament album if to be specific.
I love so much this song and Dave's composition process.
Playing and singing this shit is awesome.
Greatest metal song ever written
2:27 my personal fav riff from this track. Doesn't sounds like a thrash metal thing to me. It has kinda doomy/melodic death metal vibe to it
Just my guess, but Dave apparently also loved it so much he made an entire song using it (Symphony of Destruction)
@@Snavels Yeah these riffs sound similar, but in Symphony of Destruction its too simplified and groovy, and to me it doesn't have that "dungeons and castles in an rainy autumn forest" otherworldly melody, lol! In other words, it doesn't sounds like mid 90s european metal. I hope you understand what I mean 😅
When you have a song where every riff is called “the greatest metal riff ever,” it’s safe to say that you have the best metal song ever created
4:37 the actual pay off for the slower part.
Mustaine went apeshit at this one, very rarely he did use gallop picking back then.
lol that’s like the easiest part of the song
All of devil’s island is galloping
he used it plenty lmao, just off the top of my head i can think of chosen ones, mechanix, wake up dead, the conjuring, devils island, 502, five magics, and there’s probably a crap ton more
What the fuck are you talking about, bitch?
Brilliant masterpiece of metal
1:27 🤟💀
6:16 soo stong, so massive
Totally
So many different time stamps, so many great riffs in one song
this song is filled with insane riffs, like seriously, it’s too fucking hard to pick one
Marty Friedman is underrated on his riff skills
That tone and that playing!
This is somehow less impressive than the isolated tracks from other bands I've been hearing. I think it's because the clarity and guitar focused nature of RIP didn't bury anything, it's all there to hear in its full majesty, so this isolated recording doesn't have that novelty. Still, a metal masterpiece right here.
MrIceman967 Exactly. The album didn't hide the guitar to begin with, so the isolated tracks aren't mind blowing to me. The whole album is mind blowing as is. With the other isolated tracks to be found on TH-cam (let's say And Justice For All for instance) the isolated tracks bring out things you never hear when listening to the album because the guitars lost clarity among everything else, so hearing them is almost like hearing the song for the first time. With the RIP tracks, it's more like "yep, that's the guitar. It's still amazing and perfect, but nothing new." It's a compliment to the original recording.
Andy Oliphant I mostly agree but I think the places where they play 3rds instead of 5ths in the rhythm tracks are a little clearer when isolated. But yeah, this sound the most like the album even though it's guitars only for sure!
The guitars are very fuzzy and high pitched, the lack of lower register means there's less for you to listen to, thats why it seems weak
MrIceman967 do you know how to get a clarity in mix like u say? So when in mixed the guitar is still "clear" is that has something to do with EQ or what? I wanna record some song next few months
@@thirteenthandy
Megadeth did that earlier.
It took me decades to figure out that Dave does pickscratches on Good Mourning/Black Friday. Saw him practice it live on some video and he did it there. Dug up the isolated guitar track and those things are there. Just buried under the mix, but you can hear them later once you know they're there.
The most badass shit I've ever listened to
I love bass and drums, but it's a bless to hear this guitar track.
Awesome song!!!!
Verse riff is just something else
This is kick ass to the highest extent.
Would Dave have played and recorded separate rhythm and lead tracks in the studio?
Yea
According to Dave, he would record two rhythm tracks one panned left, one panned right and have the second guitarist do one single rhythm track up the center.
Fragmenta Official - Interesting ... thanks.
Thats a really good mixing technique
Yeah, it's fairly unique to Megadeth as well. I don't know many if any other bands that do it that way. Most have one guitarist do all the rhythm tracks (Metallica, Slayer after Divine Intervention) One player on the left and one player on the right (Slayer before Divine Intervention, Slipknot) or the Morrisound way which is to have both guitarists do one left and right rhythm track each (Death - Human, Sepultura - Beneath The Remains).
Perfection
Could you post only the Dave Musatine track of this epic song? Greetings from Peru!!! lml #AguanteMegadeth
GREAT!!!!!
Que deleite. Bacanisimo
For me the best line up of megadeth
Was watching a video of Dave Mustaine showing how he plays this and he just makes it look effortless.
5:01 (solo practice)
1:34 que buen riff dios santo
Lo mismo dije yo, es buenísimo
Badass. That opening riff sounds like a swarm of pissed off hornets
Im probably should've talk here bcz of my name but this song still gorgeous with guitars only
Not all people who listen to Megadeth hate Metallica. Your welcome here as much as anyone else.
@@cat_bicycle12 I just like metal, so I listen to both.
welcome Mr. Death, creep here all you want :)
I think a lot of us here are fans of Metallideth.
Learning this is brutal af
2:14 - 3:25 - 4:19 - 4:53
3:27 My soul just left my body
Dave's picking attack is spot on. James is right up there. Both play spider chords which was something Dave came up to limit slider up the neck for certain chord progression.
James doesn't play the spider chord, its Dave's patented technique. Dave also does a lot of other crazy stuff on the rhythm.
James is known for his godly down-picking on the other hand tho.
@Sainandan Ramakrishnan No it's not Dave's "patented technique," nor it is even that innovative. I pretty much discovered it myself learning Symptom of the Universe when I first started playing guitar.
+cdsmetalhead99
Doesn't matter, it was still badass, point being it was just a small sample of the genius metal musicians that was Dave and Megadeth.
@@sainandanramakrishnan4812 Hah literally on the other hand
1:27 so fucking good.
* Guitars and chimes.
😁
why is no one talking about last solo
dave mustain is a true god
It's so much fun to play once you get it down. It's not easy though! Especially noise control on verses.
Spider chords at hand!
The first verse riff is crazy
This shit so badass it don’t even need vocals
Hi , love this, ....any chance you could link my to Train of Consequences with just guitar?
Late reply but here you go:
th-cam.com/video/WJv2YELWXtc/w-d-xo.html
Notice the low end, they didn't just blindly took out the lows,
The first song ilearned by ear!
What bpm is that track pls?
46 and 2
2:15
Dat mustaine solo
1:33
Posting this to repeat to this point to try and learn by ear
3:46 my favorite🔥
2:27 are they power chords or single notes he’s playing? Single notes with the open e string? I can’t figure out how to get that sound
Open E string and singles 2/3 on the A I’m pretty sure
i swear i can hear the other instruments yet they’re clearly not there
Where did you get it?
4-37 - 4-47 SuperFishka!
0:44
Why is the bell tree still in there? Goddam liars!
Jason Johnston I thought the same thing
It's SUPER common for Producers to consolidate tracks like that. You'll often find Guitar Solos are actually part of the Lead Vocal track.
0:04
4.40
e
B
6:15
And Justice For David
BASS
Out of all of the isolated guitar tracks I've been listening to lately, this one sounds the most like the actual song. As if nothing much is missing. I guess that just shows how Mustaine oriented this song is.
i dont understand how somone can hear this song and say metallica has more skill its sooo good
I don't understand how it's been like 30 years since they stopped feuding, yet people still continue this bullshit discussion
@@marcinmcula99right. can't people like both bands or no??
0:45 that lick is so tasty
2:56
Demoníaco
How did you do that
Guitar hero
How did you extract the guitars from the track?
Guitar hero track probably
Rico MegaSuper yeah without gh ots extremely difficult to get to the guitars by itself
Guitar hero he could've actually re recorded the guitar parts
@@avocadocommander studio rough mix
1:27 я это сыграть то кое как только могу, а рыжий ещё и поёт при этом, ну мужик, одним словом - еврей
Не, ну риф лёгкий, но петь под него это пиздец
0:1
1:29 FUCKING EVIL SOUND!!!!
How many rhythm tracks are there?
4 i assume
0:25 Many guitar covers play this riff wrong. (0-0-----5-7)
That guitar track under Dave’s solo is so fucking badass. I can’t find an isolated track of that one >:(
th-cam.com/video/uL2RSRRYKvQ/w-d-xo.html this video has it
@@jamespell1138 unfortunately I was looking for the isolated guitar itself. Thanks though
5:19 Dave Mustaine
Thats right!
Tbh i like the fast part of the song more precisely the beginning before the acoustic breakdown
lol every riff has its own comment here saying it's the best riff ever
Stretch it out over the rest of the album and that's Rust in Peace
I hate this guitar tone but the composition is godly
3:27 4:21
Could you imagine James Hetfield circa 1986-1988 singing on this track? How awesome would that sound.
This would be actually true if mustaine remained in metallica, and after all he was lead and james was rhythm so james would sing and play this!! How cool!!
Maggiethegsd too bad mustaine never got a second chance
Would been fucking epic and badass
It would be too good for their talentless arse
God this is so good without dave mustaine's pop singing
0:02 out of tune E chord