This is why I believe Jones doesn’t deserve to be considered the goat. It’s not that I believe no one else is taking PED’s or that drugs are bad, it’s all the damn preferential treatment he receives. I mean, this guy has literally had entire venues moved because of his issues. I just believe in a level playing field. Most people don’t even know Jones is not fighting right now because of supposedly another drug suspension. It’s not official because results are now hidden from the public, but a rival divulged it and wasn’t supposed to. Btw, nice video Dane.
You made yourself hypocritical by acknowledging we all know there’s rampant dopinng, but only talked about drugs against him. He got caught because like everything in life, he doesn’t care anymore.
I have conflicting thoughts about this subject. In one hand I wish PEDs were extinguished from sports, because they create an unfair advantage and can be detrimental for the health of the athletes. In the other hand I have this question "what if we, instead of prohibing every PED, started to accept some of them?" The idea behind this question come from my observation on the bodybuilding scene and they way they treat those drugs. It's hard for me to put this though into words, but it feels like they have a healthier relationship with their drugs, and that they don't need to deal with "shady" drugs to boost their performance.
Joe has always been defensive when it comes to Jon Jones. He repeatedly used the cocaine laced creatine as a defense for Jones, and went on mislabeling Jeff Novitzky's past as a usada guy instead of being a former IRS employee as a way to deflect
Rogan painted himself in a corner by having this guy on his show. To be honest, I’m surprised he did because this kid even made a video about Rogan’s gut and his hypothetical use of hgh.
@@rowandavis6672 I haven’t seen that, but I’m wondering if this kids observation on the potential damage he’s doing actually got Rogan off that stuff. Joe’s gut disappeared and his face literally aged overnight. Just look at an older video of Rogan from 2018 or 2019. He looks like he aged 15 years.
A pal of mine is into mma and knows nothing about gear/steroids. I used steroids for 6 years in the 90s, he's lost 4 out of 10 fights he asked me to show him how to use gear. I tried to talk him out of it but he really wanted to try it he's winning his fights now after 6 months on gear don't get me wrong steroids don't make you a champion but it gave him the strength and confidence to help his training. You will always have steroids in sport .
Interesting video. I'll just correct you in one way by saying that Patrick Arnold formulated THG. Victor Conte was distributing it to high profile athletes.
Do have a parking spot for USADA. Probably the spot furthest away from the gym. Set up with a alarmsystem so when they park there the alarm goes off, the guys leave through the back door and when the officials enter the gym they find it empty.
I think steroids are less important in team sports. Though, the beauty of football that eventhough physicality there super important, it could be negated via technique and decision-making. Also I don't actually think that if Pirlo, Xavi, Iniesta would've given steroids they were able ye become such nuanced extra top players
It's very difficult topic, very similar to weed. We know a huge percentage is taking them in every sport, so maybe it is better to supervise it. The problem is making the public accept as the normal now.
@@CertifiedPG notice how he stopped replying. I'm not saying its wrong to juice but he clearly is ashamed of it and trying to convince others its not bad🤣
Garage strength I would like you to finish the debate once and for all? Is it physiologically possible to keep building muscle forever with push ups? Regular full rom push ups? No extra added weight just sets till failure? Thanks.....
Not really with just body weight as stimulus, you can pick in relative strength and endurance strength, maintain in muscle mass, but if you go every time to failure and don't recuperate enough your muscles start to breakdown. As a human your capacity at put on muscles mass is limited in time, by growth hormones (your endocrine system more generally) in your youth, level of myostatine limiting the amount of muscle mass and level testosterone until you hit your 40's for men it start to drop, for women at the menopause, but the muscles loss (or sarcopenia) start in average in the 30's (if you don't exercise it can be pretty quick), last and not least your alimentation.
I think peds should be legal and so market will compete to not only make tgem to boost performance, but also compete for safety. Now we have system where drugs are compete for them to not appear on a test, but nobody gives a damn fuck about health. Also if legalise peds all sports would be even more spectacular. I'm not 100% sure it is the right way though, but I just don't enitely disagree with this
@@Dtown3 you're right "all" is not true, majority of professional athletes at the highest level are using something to increase performance, including most of his opponents
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This is why I believe Jones doesn’t deserve to be considered the goat. It’s not that I believe no one else is taking PED’s or that drugs are bad, it’s all the damn preferential treatment he receives. I mean, this guy has literally had entire venues moved because of his issues. I just believe in a level playing field. Most people don’t even know Jones is not fighting right now because of supposedly another drug suspension. It’s not official because results are now hidden from the public, but a rival divulged it and wasn’t supposed to. Btw, nice video Dane.
You made yourself hypocritical by acknowledging we all know there’s rampant dopinng, but only talked about drugs against him. He got caught because like everything in life, he doesn’t care anymore.
@@brandonhoover2120 Nice try, but I’m talking about a level playing field that Jones is not subjected to.
@@NemeanLion- The level playing field that others are taking, like him?
@@brandonhoover2120 no other fighter is allowed to pulse, nor could they get an entire venue moved to another state because of pulsing.
The more I watch the videos on this channel. The more I use the word "Utilize"
I utilize the word utilize more also
“They’re all on Steroids”
- Nathaniel Diaz
What’s your take on PEDs in sports? Is clean sport actually attainable?
No
They should follow tommy tiernan steroid olympics @garage strength. Have an all steroid olympics and lets see a man sprint 100 meters under 1 second
No PEDs has and always will be prevalent in the sports
I have conflicting thoughts about this subject. In one hand I wish PEDs were extinguished from sports, because they create an unfair advantage and can be detrimental for the health of the athletes. In the other hand I have this question "what if we, instead of prohibing every PED, started to accept some of them?" The idea behind this question come from my observation on the bodybuilding scene and they way they treat those drugs. It's hard for me to put this though into words, but it feels like they have a healthier relationship with their drugs, and that they don't need to deal with "shady" drugs to boost their performance.
Not at the elite levels, there's too much $, sense of legacy/ego/greed, it's sad.
Wow I did not know how knowledgeable you also are about the pharmaceutical aspect of sports. Great stuff coach
Joe has always been defensive when it comes to Jon Jones. He repeatedly used the cocaine laced creatine as a defense for Jones, and went on mislabeling Jeff Novitzky's past as a usada guy instead of being a former IRS employee as a way to deflect
Rogan painted himself in a corner by having this guy on his show. To be honest, I’m surprised he did because this kid even made a video about Rogan’s gut and his hypothetical use of hgh.
makes sense , jon jones beated a lot of fighters who was on peds trt vitor for example
truth. no way around that.
@@NemeanLion- well to be fair Rogan has admitted to trt and hgh in another podcast
@@rowandavis6672 I haven’t seen that, but I’m wondering if this kids observation on the potential damage he’s doing actually got Rogan off that stuff. Joe’s gut disappeared and his face literally aged overnight. Just look at an older video of Rogan from 2018 or 2019. He looks like he aged 15 years.
A pal of mine is into mma and knows nothing about gear/steroids. I used steroids for 6 years in the 90s, he's lost 4 out of 10 fights he asked me to show him how to use gear. I tried to talk him out of it but he really wanted to try it he's winning his fights now after 6 months on gear don't get me wrong steroids don't make you a champion but it gave him the strength and confidence to help his training. You will always have steroids in sport .
Wow that's mad. It sucks that sports are for the most part no longer honest. Everyone is cheating. Smdh.
I would love a best lifts to improve Long Jump video!! Love the content keep it up, favorite channel for sports
Thanks for the suggestion!
Are you teaching it or doing it?
this video should have "ELI5" in the title, because your explanations were on point! Ty very much!
throwing is a strength sport and i believe that in strength sports to be at the top of the podium you have to be on the gear.
the holy USADA parking space deserves its own vlog episode!
Hahahaha. It’s sitting pretty right out front!
I wanna see the “USADA only” parking sign. 😂
Maybe it was horse dewormer.
Interesting video. I'll just correct you in one way by saying that Patrick Arnold formulated THG. Victor Conte was distributing it to high profile athletes.
Do have a parking spot for USADA. Probably the spot furthest away from the gym. Set up with a alarmsystem so when they park there the alarm goes off, the guys leave through the back door and when the officials enter the gym they find it empty.
I think Joe is just being a good interviewer. Pulling more answers and detail from Derek.
first time here, sub'ed.
When I was playing football ⚽️ about 12 years ago, fairly high level, don’t think anyone was on steroids. Steroids doesn’t give you skill.
But it will help with recovery, so you can train your skills much more.
People take drugs to beat their friends in low level sports, don’t you think footballers who makes 1mill$ a week will look for a edge
@@SuperYobo well said bro
@@SuperYobo I'm just telling you first hand, think what you want.
I think steroids are less important in team sports. Though, the beauty of football that eventhough physicality there super important, it could be negated via technique and decision-making. Also I don't actually think that if Pirlo, Xavi, Iniesta would've given steroids they were able ye become such nuanced extra top players
It's very difficult topic, very similar to weed. We know a huge percentage is taking them in every sport, so maybe it is better to supervise it. The problem is making the public accept as the normal now.
If you do a small bump of T you cant just sit back and let it make you yoked.. You still have to work hard for the results.
It’s an advantage regardless and that’s all that matters
@@CertifiedPG whos competing? Do it if you want to, if not no biggie. Who's judging? Not you right?
@@Lovenlife139 They’re talking about athletes the entire video lol
Your point? 🤣🤣🤣
@@CertifiedPG notice how he stopped replying. I'm not saying its wrong to juice but he clearly is ashamed of it and trying to convince others its not bad🤣
Waiting for him to do Natty or not Kayla harrison
well done
Testosterone suspension would probably go in and out fast right?
Garage strength I would like you to finish the debate once and for all?
Is it physiologically possible to keep building muscle forever with push ups? Regular full rom push ups? No extra added weight just sets till failure?
Thanks.....
Not really with just body weight as stimulus, you can pick in relative strength and endurance strength, maintain in muscle mass, but if you go every time to failure and don't recuperate enough your muscles start to breakdown. As a human your capacity at put on muscles mass is limited in time, by growth hormones (your endocrine system more generally) in your youth, level of myostatine limiting the amount of muscle mass and level testosterone until you hit your 40's for men it start to drop, for women at the menopause, but the muscles loss (or sarcopenia) start in average in the 30's (if you don't exercise it can be pretty quick), last and not least your alimentation.
Lol Joe Rogan is far from the sharpest knife in the drawer 😂
He did say that it help being an idiot in his line of work. I guess it makes him more approachable for a wider audience
@@ShayanGivehchian And allows him to be interested in so much stuff because there's nothing in his head but UFC and DMT memories
I think peds should be legal and so market will compete to not only make tgem to boost performance, but also compete for safety. Now we have system where drugs are compete for them to not appear on a test, but nobody gives a damn fuck about health. Also if legalise peds all sports would be even more spectacular. I'm not 100% sure it is the right way though, but I just don't enitely disagree with this
Exactly. Why let guys like lebron take all the fame and money
Joe obviously talks with Jones all the time, he always talks about talking about jon Jones. I never seen Joe find an excuse for someone first time
Fight was actually pretty competitive until the headkick
I've already seen this video you just click baiting this video off his JRP and MPMD your just saying same thing over top lol 🤦♂️
Cool man
They should follow tommy tiernan steroid olympics @garage strength. Have an all steroid olympics and lets see a man sprint 100 meters under 1 second
It’s already like that today
@@SuperYobo we need this
McGregor is on roids 💉🤭
Probably joe wanted the viewers to understand more or he was high :P
Great video ! Thank you 🙏. I believe Patrick Arnold created THG though, not Victor Conte…
People need to stop gettting on Jones for being on roids... they all are
That simply isn't true. Not all the fighters are on gear. You have no evidence of that
@@Dtown3 you're right "all" is not true, majority of professional athletes at the highest level are using something to increase performance, including most of his opponents
@@rymcg123 'using something to increase performance' =/ PEDs necessarily
@@Dtown3 yea....but a vast majority are. I would go far as to say 90% have at least been on or were on stuff
What evidence do we have that athletes take steroids tho
What evidence do we have that they dont?
@@WhaddupImJohn what evidence do we have that they do?
Look at them
@@yomomma8972 and?
@@yomomma8972 look at bodybuilders man