My starter is named Clint Yeastwood." Go ahead, Bake my day!" Thanks for an excellent tutorial. I've been baking dense loaves and finally finding your tutorial may be exactly what I "kneaded"
The name of my sourdough starter is called "Baby Love" because I'll take very good care of it. Thank you so very much of your video. Your explanation is clear and easy to follow. I like your chart too so that I can referenced it quickly. Great job!
Sorry to be a bit pedantic, but I think this is very cool. It's not training the yeast, you are selecting traits that allow it to evolve in a specific way! Much cooler than the idea of training. You are more so breeding it like a dog, cow, or chicken rather than anything else. The yeast with the traits that allow it to exist in conditions that change in a specific way would be more likely to survive than the yeast that has traits evolved for more consistent conditions. This would give you a "domesticated" Yeast variant of whatever wild yeast you have around you. Think of it like your own dog breed! It's a really cool process and goes to show how much control we have over our world, all in a tiny little jar.
Thank you for saying the note about the float test! I just started incorporating other kinds of flours like rye, spelt, & barley and it was not working with the float test! Good to know I wasn’t crazy!
I really enjoyed your video. I'm also an engineer so I really appreciate the detail and pace of this and all your other videos. Thank you for all your hard work! I called my starter Valiant.
Mine is called Nigel after a friend who is very cultured and has great taste. He moved to a different part of the country and we don't see him so much now so this is a way to feel he is still around :)
I've been using unbleached King Arthur Bread Flour or Bob's Red Mill unbleached BREAD flour. Both work great for these recipes. I live in the USA. Protein is about 12.7%. I do google protein contents before baking with flour. I would try a higher protein content sometime but I have seen from comments that it can be much more expensive. I do not cut corners, when making bread. I'm already spending a fortune. I also am learning about a batch method that doesn't use high protein flour, but UNBLEACHED ALL PURPOSE FLOUR for that method. It is the recommended flour for that method. It is not sourdough, but yeast-based Artisan Bread with more "European" flavors than sourdough. Still haven't figured out how much I like it though. Just like sourdough, I have issues constantly when making "artisan no-knead" breads. I simply suck at making bread of any kind. I do lean more toward perfecting sourdough recipes like Henrich's. I'd rather fail at a loaf, then miss out on the sourdough "tang."
Mine is named the “Chosen One”. I grind my flour , so when I separate the bran from the bread flour I just mix it with some of the whole wheat and it’s the dump for whatever bran or left over whole wheat I grounded. Feed it twice a day it’s always hungry and has not let me down.
really loved the slides ! anyway your way to inprove your skills and knowledge ( and ours) through the scientific way of thinking of a precise and mathematical and metodic as your job suggests you to keep is amazing ! many thanks
My husband who is German got to name ours. His name is Oskar. My sourdough turned out like the German bread you showed on the right. I’ll have to tweak my timing and ratio because Oskar is a flour eating beast and a n Australia, it’s starting to get warmer in Victoria, so in 45 minutes he was rising up like lava. I’m using whole wheat sprouted flour from Laucke, for reference. Thank you very much for all the tips. I love your German approach to making bread.
I used a 50/50 Rye, Bread Flour to feed my starter for baking one day. It was doubled after 6 hrs, but not very bubbly, so I left it in the cupboard another hour and marked the line with a rubber band. It still rose a little bit...then it seemed to have more bubbles. So, I used it in your "amazing overnight sourdough" video. The one that everything is mixed in at once and allowed to rise at rm temp. The overnight temp in our California home right now, is about 75 degrees. My bread rose some from ovenspring, but since it was half white half WW flour in it, in only rose about 2/3 or less after taking it out of the oven. Still denser than I like, as well. Not sure what I did wrong here either.
After a week of making a sourdough starter with 100% rye 1-1-1 ration I have awesome results! And it smells soooo good. Afterwards I shifted to a 1-5-5 ratio. My sourdough is raising but seems a little sluggish. It will more than double in 12+ hours. Is this normal? How should a 1-5-5 sourdough starter react compared to 1-1-1 starter? Love your videos! Keep up the good work!
Great channel, I subbed! As for the starter, mine is 10+ years old and sat in the fridge abandoned for over a year. It still makes great bread after a couple of feedings, starting with one or two rounds of 1:1:1, followed by 2x 1:5:5. I think if I forgot about it for 5 years it would still survive. Haven’t tried the drying method yet, I don’t think it’s needed.
Just a shout out to say Thank You !!! Love your Live Chat ~ this is my 1st time viewing your live chat and I’m Learning bits and pieces. Love to Bread Pitt
I brought mine down to 5 starter, 20 g.AP + 10 g dark rye + 30 g. Spring water. I keep the little guy in the microwave with the door open, so the light is on to provide a bit of heat.
You mentioned health benefits of sourdough bread, with a question mark. There's still much to learn. But a study published in December 2019 tested the digestibility of three types of bread: conventional baker's yeast bread, sourdough with a moderate acidity and sourdough bread with higher acidity (mainly due to the time of fermentation). The nutritional values in the in vitro tests had the highest scores for sourdough breads. Sourdough bread with moderate acidification stimulated more appetite and made the test persons feel less full ("induced lower satiety") whereas the more acidic-tasting sourdough made them feel full in the shortest time. The emptying of the stomach ("gastric emptying") was faster with sourdough breads. Both types of sourdough breads had lower curves of blood sugar changes ("glycaemia response"). Sourdough bread has much more free amino acids than baker's yeast bread, and the levels of free amino acids were maintained at constantly high levels for extended time. [Rizzello et al. [2019],Sourdough Fermented Breads are More Digestible than Those Started with Baker’s Yeast Alone: An In Vivo Challenge Dissecting Distinct Gastrointestinal Responses, Nutrients 2019 Dec., p. 2954. doi: 10.3390/nu11122954. URL: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6950244/] (The authors also refers to another study from 2019 that had shown that sourdough fermentation increased the protein digestibility and amount of soluble fibre, and a decrease of the glycaemic index, phytate content, trypsin inhibitors and other anti-nutritional factors.)
Interesting! I would also think that the breakdown of the flour by the amylase and protease enzyme makes a long fermented bread better for a person :-). Regardless of yeast/sourdough.
Please do this again some other time, the questions and answers are an excellent way of learning; you are good teacher. I also would like to know about the blisters method on the crust. Also wanted to share with you, there are thermometers that has Celsius and Fahrenheit on them to explain the difference . Thank you again, Sheila Kemp from California.
Hey Shelia. Thank you! As far as I can see the perfect proofing point, lots of steam and a dough with high hydration seems to be the secret to getting those blisters. I even got them a few days ago when proofing at room temperature.
My rye starter is called Roger (rye in German is Roggen) and my wheat starter is called Wheaton 😁 I'm feeding 1:1:1 and latest every two weeks there will be a new bread. So I'm not running in any issues. Viele Grüße!
I have one question for you, you only use a small amount of starter in your recipe, at what point would I want to use anything greater than 100, or 200 g of starter? I’ve seen some recipes that call for up to 200g, I tried it once, and still had no success with open crumb. With your help, I think I have finally figured out by re-watching your videos, what I’m doing wrong. I will keep you updated. I am the kind of person who wants to know why something does what it does or how things work, we have have the same kind of minds and I love the way you teach with your charts and data (I used to do that for a living, so I totally relate, LOL). Thank you so much. 😋
Thank you for such generous session and all the information shared. Just a side feedback; have you noticed how many times you apologized and said I’m sorry this, I’m sorry that…? Your content is great and you put your own effort and personal touch to it, well done and you deserve to be proud of your knowledge and passion for sourdough 😊
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I learn so much from you! I've got my new starter named & going. Here's hoping my bread will eventually look as good as your bread.
I love your channel. I have some mind blogging questions that will blow up your engineering mind. Here are the two crazy questions... 1. *I heard you never need to discard and feed the starter weekly, only monthly.* A five month starving starter will still make amazing flavorful bread. Is this true that you only need to feed your starter when you are about to run out? 2. *Can you feed pasta shells* or actual crumbs to your starter because technically, both are just made from flour and water and that's what feed a starter? If it's true that I never need to feed my starter unless I need more, and never need to discard, that is a game changer because you're not wasting flour and water daily or weekly. Throwing away starter is more costly than just buying yeast from Amazon. I already fed pasta shells to my starter. My starter is now carnivorous because it feeds on its own child after baking bread. I created *first ever carnivorous starter* hahaha 😂 😂 😂 😂
Hi! Thanks for your video - class I am about to try to do my first starter! But first of all I am trying to study and learn everything as posible, I really like the scientific point of view you presented I would apreciatte if you can suggest me some books or lectures, like the one you showed in the presentattion! And again thanks! I really loved this video
Don't stop the jokes, the check 1 2 made me laugh out loud. Thanks for your wisdom and expertise, from one engineer to another I appreciate your approach to things.
Regarding wheat berries that have been stored for over 30 y in a sealed, dark space, container with some insert pancake to avoid moist. Also the berries almost ferments before It sprout (not sure if that is relevant). 1- how much protein will the milled flour have? 1- first time doing stater w Rye doing GREAT thanks to you. Seems like when I used the in question flour to feed the starter it needed more hydration to attain a mixture like when I use Rye. It also regressed not getting the x2 size increase. How will this affect the master piece I’m planning to make when I mimic your directions for 100% Whole Wheat sourdough bread? Love your “Why u do…” behind the whole process. Thank you
I named my first two Hall and Oats ( they were started with different Types of flour) but I’m new to sourdough and I thought they had mold and I threw them out. Only to realize they were fine… 🤦♀️ but my new one is names “The yeasty bois” cause I love a good pun!
Very instructive video, thank you so much! You should make an ebook with all your charts and your tips! I have a question: when feeding the sourdough to make a loaf of bread, should we use the same ratio as the bread one? For example, if my dough is supposed to have a 65% hydration, should the sourdough have the same hydration to not mess with the final hydration of the dough? hope t makes sense...Thanks in advance for your help! A French-from-France living in Canada :-)
Best time for me to feed my starter to have it ready for baking next morning at 06.30 is around 15.00 day before. So i usually take like 1G of starter and the amount of water/flower i need depending on how many breads im making. Sometimes it's at its peak and sometimes a little over in the morning. This is obviously harder now when its been warmer to get right. I always put it around 23 degrees and use icecold water. How would you do to have it at it's peak in the morning? I could bring the sourdough home and feed it at night but it's so simple to do it all at work. ^ thanks your awesome!
Hi greetings from Malaysia. I am very new to this. After watching your video, I started making a starter using rye flour on 7/2 @7pm. The next day, it doubled. I fed it again @7pm too (8/2). This morning it had doubled too but @4+ pm, it started to drop. So I fed it @4.40pm. By 7.40 pm, it had doubled again. My question is am I supposed to feed it once a day? How do I know when it is ready to be used to bake ? I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for all your videos. I learnt a lot from them.
Great video! All your videos are informative and entertaining. Keep them coming. By the way, my 12 year old starter is named Julia as a tribute to my Mom.
Hello, what is/are the “book/s” you mentioned towards the end of the video? I think that would help me to understand better. What love your videos and have saved most of them so that I can go back and review. Thank you for what your clear presented and for your help . I love that you explain them systematically with scientific methods. Thank you.
When you were travelling did you open the lid on your starter to pick up different yeasts/bacteria from those areas? Also would you also get the same affect from getting you flour from different regions?
Gluten tag 🤣 i see what you did there. What a great series this is. Thank you so much. My question is on process. If I make, say, 2 loaves per week, will I need to feed my starter in between? Or can I just hold back enough at room temperature for a 1:5:5 feeding before starting the next loaf?
Gluuuuuten Tag 🤣. Let's say you bake on Monday. You can skip the feeding on tuesday. I'd give it another feed on wednesday evening and another on 1:5:5 on thursday evening, assuming you want to bake on friday. If you want to bake on saturday, give it one additional feeding.
I wanted to name my starter Beth and then I asked someone what I should name my starter and they said Bethany so I guess we both had the same idea on sourdough names. Additionally for the people who use F°, 6°C is equivalent to around 43°F and if you want your sourdough to ferment slower but your fridge is too cold you can freeze a bowl and cover your sourdough container, it'll cool it for a few hours at least.
I make 6 loafs at a time so I keep about a qt of starter or more. One wheat and one rye. I bake 3 or 4 times a week. I bake 100% rye a lot of the time. Your method I would be feeding it a lot of flour. I bake right from the mother starter. I discard then add a little over a cup of flour and a cup of water and it doubles.
Hello my friend. Im Bill from Delaware, USA. I love your video's. I've seen them all and for sourdough masterclass probably 20x. I have so many questions and I like how you take the scientific approach. I'm a mechanical technician which is like engineer here in US. Our temperature here is very erratic and fluctuates alot. I also don't like my apartment more than 21°C . I have a hard time keeping my starter temperature steady. I tried oven with light on but seems too warm and i feed once per day. I use whole wheat 14.7%. I've tried ratios from 1-3-3 to 1-7-7. My starter barely doubles and then doesn't deflate much. Not much bubbles on outside of jar but bubbly inside then when I scoop or stir it turns liquid like. I keep it out everyday for about 2 months now because I try to bake with it so much. With this I seem to have everything else down except my sample does not rise and the bulk rise over ferments if I'm not careful so sample doesn't help me much and then dough doesn't proof and I get Frisbee (tho good for cutting up inside to toast for croutons). No difference if i bulk rise 8 hrs or 12 hrs. Also hydration seems good 70%. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? Sorry this is so long but I want to be thorough. You are the sourdough King 🤴. Thanks Bill.
Hey William. Try doing the bulk fermentation to a 30-50% size increase for your whole wheat flour. I'll have a new dedicated video on whole wheat flour coming out soon. Hope that will be helpful. The sample must be placed close to the main dough. It also only works if the temperature in your kitchen doesn't change that much.
Moin, during the process, each day after the sourdough doubled (let’s say we obtained 70g). We have to take a portion of the sourdough and feed it with flour and water (using 1-5-5 ration for me). Question: what do you do with the left over of the sourdough produced ?
Try storing it in a jar in the fridge. Then once you have enough, make this amazing German discard starter bread. I love it: th-cam.com/video/7V3FyVzzVUI/w-d-xo.html
Am from India. I am liking your insights greatly. Am struggling to make 1) a rightful choice of wheat flour in India locally. Can you suggest what should I do? I don't intend to use costly online options like King Arthur flour etc.. 2) am struggling for shaping quite a bit..can you please help here?
Thank you for you great information on sour dough . I’ve been making the sour dough bread over a year and the floating of starter has really helped me to know my starter is ready to start my recipe of water flour salt . I’m playing with higher hydration now and happy with the results. Drying my starter is a question I have ? Would it live if I dehydrated it? I could share with friends ?
Excellent video thank you for your knowledge. I have a question for you. @20:10 you mentioned that you had a starter almost die on you because you used all purpose flour. You believe that this was due to the lack of nutrition in the AP flour that caused this. You use Rye flour because more of the hull is in the flour mixture. It is the yeast on the hull that gives the "kick", there for makes an excellent ingredient for sourdough starter. Is it possible your starter is benefiting every time you feed the starter, because you are introducing new colonies of yeast into the flour mixture? That its not the nutritional value of the rye flour, but simply the fact you are replacing some of the dead yeast with new yeast from the rye flour you put in the starter, making it all that stronger? I have seen other TH-cam videos were the presenter made sourdough from AP flour but it took a very long time 15 to 17 days to achieve a viable starter and during the cultivating process, the starter almost died, but then came back. These presenters also state that 15 to 17 days might not be long enough cultivation time to use the starter. That you have to cultivate up to 30 days to have a viable starter. Some presenters used a mixture of AP and whole wheat or AP and Rye which results in better cultivation. In either case the presenter stated you get a better results if you mix the flour. Also what I have learned if you "have" to use AP, use Unbleached AP flour. Bleached flour (which makes it white) is really not good for baking bread at all.
Hey Sideband, very interesting. Yep that could also be one of the factors. Especially if the acid is too high and you might have killed some yeast cultures. All purpose starter could work - although I have never tried it. Maybe you end up cultivating some species that are good at mostly eating the starch. Unbleached flour, yep 100%. That makes sense.
Hey Hendrik, I missed your livestream unfortunately, only just caught up with it. Thanks for another great video 🙏. I have a question for you about pimping up my bread flour (12% protein). How much VWG should I add to 400g of this flour? I'm rubbish at maths! 😂 Thanks in advance x
My starter is called Baldur, because my 2 year old daughter always shouts that daddy is "making balls" whyle baking bread. Baldur was also a very hard to kill nordic god, as starters are per default. And as an austrian baldur sounds similar like "Ball"
Like many people, I've been struggling with the Great Race between yeast and acid, trying to find the proper balance. I've started fermenting my dough in a proofing box (80F) but still the yeast growth seems to be very slow. No matter what I've done (so far), the acid seems to be winning. I've thought about adding a bit of sodium bicarbonate to the mix to give the yeast a fighting chance. Today, I thought "Either this is a really bad idea or something Henrich might experiment with." What do you think?
Hey David, oh noes! What's the issue with the final bread - you don't like the slight acidic note to it, or do you end up baking too flat breads? Try a 1:5:5 feeding for a few days once per day. Then prepare your levain and it should work :-)
Hi Henrich , thanks for sharing all the great tips and recipes.. Brat Pitt travels the world with you, how do u manage that with customs and do u hand carry him ? This would b a great tip to me as i wud love to bake sourdough bread for my son when i visit him in NY.. Or wud you suggest i check in the dry starter ? Travelling time from my country to NY is about 24hrs. Tks
Hey Maureen. As of now nobody bothered. I typically take it with me in a 50ml jar that I can carry directly in my hand luggage. Drying would definitely also work :-).
Love your channel Hendrik ,you helped me improve my baking game tons 👌 Have you ever tried making Bagels? Would love to see your take on that if you find the time
Hello! I'm Lena from Rio de Janeiro. You're great! My question: my starter rises in 3'days at 25C. How do I know the right raising level to begin working the dough?
Hi Lena! I have found that starters can rise quickly at the onset, but don't feed the dough well enough to make it rise efficiently. I would feed my new starter for about a month, ensuring it is doubling consistently, before using it to make bread to ensure maximum success.
My starter is named Pluto in Aquarius or Pia because I started it this year, when pluto moves into aquarius. Kinda weird but I thought it would be a fun challenege to try and keep it alive the whole time pluto is in Aqua (until 2040 or so!).
Hi Hendrik, I like your videos. They are interesting and full of helpful information. I have a question. I just started a sourdough starter a couple of days ago using whole rye flour. It is day 3 and it doubles in size after 4 hours, as I live in Hawaii, so it's practically always humid and warm, and often very hot. I feed it after 12 hours, but on this third day it started to deflate a bit after 8 hours. Should I wait the full 12 hours before refeeding, or feed earlier if it is deflating? And also, what about when the starter is established? If it deflates, does that mean it is time to feed it? Thank you kindly for all the info you are giving us, I appreciate it.
Feeding it once per day no matter where you are is enough! These days I like to make a stiff starter our of my existing starter, it could be a game changer.
Henrich, when you talk about a 65% hydration 450g dough, are you also factoring in the contribution from the poolish or the starter? As an engineer, you really should! Poolish: 80g, Salt: 9g, Flour: (450-40=410g), Water: (293-40=253g) Right?
You are correct 100%. However, baker's prefer a little simpler math and make the recipe already work knowing that they will be adding more hydration via the starter. That's what I do as well :-). But on paper you are of course right.
I think slide 5 was supposed to be "Which four to feed your starter". Question: if I start with rye or spelt (Dinkel) flour, when can I add white flour (Weizenmehl T1050) to make it into white sourdough bread? I've been trying to make a sourdough starter using the bio type 1050 Weizenmehl from DM, but it's not rising after 8 days of feedings and discards - there are only a few bubbles on top.
Hendrick, have you ever experimented with Levains vs. sourdough? I know the Poolish is a type of leaving and when I used that to make your bread recipe...it was superactive and the best sandwich bread I ever baked.(It was my 1st loaf😎) When I used an Einkorn starter and Einkorn flours exclusively(sooooooooexpensive) one year ago, starter was perfectly and consistently active. That author exclusively used the sourdough to make the leaven which was added to the dough and fermented overnight and bread rose, but that flour was way too sticky to handle from the rise to shaping, and expensive to continue using, so I switched to alternative artisan flours. Her levain was not made with any yeast...just sourdough starter and one feed and then fermented overnight. I wanted to get away from yeast, but I see now, that at least the Poolish option is worth using it. I also use a baking system with stored bread made with yeast as an alternative method, when I don't want to start from scratch every time I make a loaf. But...not having great success with that either, but that method uses 1 tb yeast/no starter for a a 3-4 loaf batch of bread making...and still makes me queasy about yeast. I know SD is better for Type 2 diabetics, so that is my preferred method since my husband has it. For that reason, I liked it more when I used Levain from Sourdough starter rather than yeast-based. Any opinions and advice are always welcome. Also, some 5 inch mini boules recipes and measurements would be awesome, if I want to gift bread for Xmas.(provided I ever can get it perfectly right. Can't handle a fail, for that.)
Hey Maureen. It depends on what kind of flavor you personally like. A sourdough will always add a little bit of tang to the final dough. A poolish creates a more fluffy dough, not so strong in taste.
@@the_bread_code I like a bit of tang, so I like sourdough. But, after my experience with Einkorn's Levain System of baking, I liked it alot. To me, I had the best of both worlds: Sourdough Levain so sourdough flavor was good, but I didn't have to play around with sluggish starter. The Einkorn was always active when needed. I just mixed the SD levain with flour and water and put in in the cold oven overnight. No yeast. I like the flavor and similar ease of Poolish. I don't mind adding a yeast...it's just not as "tangy" as we like it. I wonder if I could use Einkorn method for pre-ferment SD for your recipes? I think I will experiment. After watching this video, I figured out how to properly feed and maintain the starter so that problem is solved. Thank you for your excellent videos and incredible knowledge about bread making. You have made a huge difference in my having more successes and less fails.
Thank you for your video very informative, I do have a question, if I have a rye only fed starter can I use this in a bread four loaf ? And the other way round if I have a starter made from only whole wheat can it be used in a 100% rye flour loaf ? Thank you and hello from Australian the land down under
Hey Tracey, yes - no worries that will work. I use my rye starter for everything. You can just change the flour of your starter all the time, nothing to worry :-)
But why should you dry it if you are away for over 4 weeks? If yiu have your starter in a jar that have a good seal it can be stored for month? I have read about people that have had their starter for month in the fridge and just refresh it abd bake with it? Actually i have tried to make dourdough baguette. They whrre not the prettiest baguettes, but they where ok. I made them with a 75% hydration dough with some ryeflour in it. After fermentation i coldproofed them overnight and fold the dough kengthwise and cut them into oblonged pieces and just "layed" them out on the sheet without shaping them. I was pretty happy how they turned out🙂 I have thought about another way of making them. What about using a pastry bag? If you use a high hydration dough and having a large pastry bag with a large hole. You teoreticly would be able to fill the bag with dough and then spritzing out the doughs into perfect baguettes! You can easily decide how large and long you want them to be, just using the pastry bag!?😃
Sorry I missed you live stream just caught up, I think I've suss now how to get rid of some a if the sour taste. I have to have 2 jar 1 very sour . informative cheers
Is there a reason why you cut off a sample instead of using a see-through vessel like a Cambro container and waiting for the entire dough mass to double in size?
Hey Dave. Mostly because I don't have such a container. It could also be a little hard to do a stretch and fold in a container like that. However - it is of course a little more reliable if you have changing temperatures as you look at the main dough. The sample could heat up/cool down faster as it has a smaller volume.
When I have developed starter and making bread, I take out 50g (starter) for my recipe. Do I feed the remaining starter every week going forward? Or do I remove 50g starter into a new container and mix 1-5-5? Some people on utube have a junk jar of the starter they removed from the original batch. Confusing to me Loved the videos and naming my starter
Hello! Great informative videos thank you so much! For making a starter should I use bottled water or is tap water ok? Also once making the bread dough again is bottled water better or is two water ok? Look forward to hearing from you! I’ve just started following your channel recently and love how you provide the how! I started baking sourdough at Xmas with a white starter my sister gave me. I’m keen to make a rye starter as prefer rye/wheat taste Hope to hear from you soon!
Do you ever just use wholewheat flour? I’m using organic wholewheat Spelt. This doesn’t rise as much as yours and requires several needing bouts over a longer period to avoid the acidic tang. Do you think this is right or might I be using too much starter?
Hi! I find your explanation very useful and precise, enjoyed all your video. I am staying in a hot and humid country, I tried to make starter but it is always not as active even after 10 days. I do see some bubbles but the starter pretty sticky and runny.. was it due to the acidity that you mentioned in the video? Should I adjust my ratio of feeding to 1:5:5 ? Currently I am using 1:1:1... about 10 days my starter still not rising at all, or should I feed twice a day ? Thanks for your help!
Moin Hendrik! I have 3-month-old 100% rye starter. It looks grey right after feeding but it turns slightly orangish/pinkish color when it doubles in size. I am a weekend baker, keep my starter in the fridge during weekdays and take it out to feed 2 days before using it. I find my sourdough bread has come out just beautiful so far with the starter. When it's too cold I put it in the proofer at around 20 C. I showed the picture of my starter to some people and asked them if it's okay to use it, and some say that no problem because it is natural rye color, but the others suggest just to discard it because they think the change of color is caused by mold. I have no idea what to do. I need your advice Hendrik. Thanks!
Hey N. Interesting. Try resetting your starter. Carefully remove a lot of parts of it and only leave a really tiny bit at the bottom of the jar, around 0.1 to 1 gram is enough. Then feed that mixture with 50 grams of flour and 50 grams of water. It should come back to live in 1-2 days. If it is still the same flour, it might be the rye you are using, if the color is changing, then it could be mold. Mold is relatively uncommon in mature starters as you have the acid blocking other microorganisms.
Gluten tag - very interesting video on the sourdough starter. It did not address one question I have.... You always feed 1:x:x. What about 1:x:y? For example, some use 1:1 starter and flout and add 0.5 water, for the stiff dough. It is widely used for sweet stuff (panettone, etc). I used it for sourdough bread, the result being much more sour. Seems this is favouring the lactic acid production. However, my vague understanding is that the aim of the stiff starter is an opposite - to remove sourness. Can you shed some light on other feeding ratios, such as 1:x:y please? Sank you!
Hey Dei. Interesting point. Yep - lievito madre is made as a stiffer starter. I don't see why it would make a less sour starter. I am yet to find some scientific proof on why that could be the case. If you find something, please share it with me. I am very curious!
@@the_bread_code Thanks for the reply! I think the end result is less sour because pasta madre is usually bathed in a slightly sweetened water before use. In my understanding, that's the only reason for the stiff starter - can't bath a liquid one. So it has a different ratios of yeast and bacteria compared to the 100% hydration. I'm sure there's more to it, but that's my current understanding... Seems to be mainly used for enriched doughs. I don't know if it provides better leavening for the enriched doughs as well, or if it's just for the flavour.
Can having a sink with bleach water( I was bleaching dish clothes) spoil your starter. On day three of attempt at making starter it had doubled in size, very active. Next day it did not rise at all. I had bleached the day before. Should I start over. Thanks for all your videos. I am using whole wheat bread flour to make my starter. We had a 50 degree drop in temperature on third day also. We live in Texas!
First of all, thank you so much for creating all of these videos. Thanks to you, my bread making skills have improved LOTS :). I have a question, when you talk about feeding ratios 1:5:5 you mean using that to create a levain right? what about feeding ratios for a day to day maintenance of the starter? I keep mine in the counter, fed 1:1:1 once a day but wonder if I need to change that (I have two starters, a whole wheat and a rye starter) and the rye is looking very sluggish atm. Many thanks from New Zealand :o)
Excellent question. Even for maintenance feedings I do the 1:5:5 ratio. After 24 hours it almost has as much yeast/bacteria again compared to a 1:1:1 ratio after 5-6 hours. Sometimes I miss a day in feeding though on the counter, but that's okay too. The 1:5:5 for the levain I find very important though :-)
The highest gluten flour I can find is about 11%. Is it practical to blend pure gluten (80%) to my flour to raise the gluten content of my flour? The gluten is very expensive. What would you do persist with low gluten flour or have a go at blending? Thanks Greg
First thank you!!! Question: with your method of storing SD long term and using a 1:10 ratio, where do you store the jar? Can one leave in the refrigerator or in a cupboard? I’m concerned a cupboard might get too warm. .
Hey Rob, I heard this too. But then if you look at how wine is made, it is made very often in stainless steel tanks. So there is nothing to worry about.
My starter is named Bread Zeppelin for all the right reasons!
That's definitely a great name!
Now you've done it! We'll never be able to come up with a great name like you did!!
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My starter is named Clint Yeastwood." Go ahead, Bake my day!"
Thanks for an excellent tutorial. I've been baking dense loaves and finally finding your tutorial may be exactly what I "kneaded"
Thank you, Hendrik. My starter will be ready in 2 weeks time (~April 17) so I shall name it ‘The Yeaster Bunny.’
The name of my sourdough starter is called "Baby Love" because I'll take very good care of it. Thank you so very much of your video. Your explanation is clear and easy to follow. I like your chart too so that I can referenced it quickly. Great job!
Sorry to be a bit pedantic, but I think this is very cool. It's not training the yeast, you are selecting traits that allow it to evolve in a specific way! Much cooler than the idea of training. You are more so breeding it like a dog, cow, or chicken rather than anything else. The yeast with the traits that allow it to exist in conditions that change in a specific way would be more likely to survive than the yeast that has traits evolved for more consistent conditions. This would give you a "domesticated" Yeast variant of whatever wild yeast you have around you. Think of it like your own dog breed! It's a really cool process and goes to show how much control we have over our world, all in a tiny little jar.
Your channel is pretty much everything that anyone would ever knead (xD) You're insane!
Thanx Hendrik :)
Sorry I’m not really clear your answer of where to store your back up starter. Thanks for your work and your awesome informations
Haha thank you!
@Nancy - check this out, hope it helps: th-cam.com/video/EEqjqaTKV24/w-d-xo.html
Love that line. 😎
Thank you for saying the note about the float test! I just started incorporating other kinds of flours like rye, spelt, & barley and it was not working with the float test! Good to know I wasn’t crazy!
I really enjoyed your video. I'm also an engineer so I really appreciate the detail and pace of this and all your other videos. Thank you for all your hard work! I called my starter Valiant.
Thank you. You are most welcome! Valiant is a good name.
Mine is called Nigel after a friend who is very cultured and has great taste. He moved to a different part of the country and we don't see him so much now so this is a way to feel he is still around :)
I've been using unbleached King Arthur Bread Flour or Bob's Red Mill unbleached BREAD flour. Both work great for these recipes. I live in the USA. Protein is about 12.7%. I do google protein contents before baking with flour. I would try a higher protein content sometime but I have seen from comments that it can be much more expensive. I do not cut corners, when making bread. I'm already spending a fortune.
I also am learning about a batch method that doesn't use high protein flour, but UNBLEACHED ALL PURPOSE FLOUR for that method. It is the recommended flour for that method. It is not sourdough, but yeast-based Artisan Bread with more "European" flavors than sourdough. Still haven't figured out how much I like it though. Just like sourdough, I have issues constantly when making "artisan no-knead" breads. I simply suck at making bread of any kind. I do lean more toward perfecting sourdough recipes like Henrich's. I'd rather fail at a loaf, then miss out on the sourdough "tang."
Mine is named the “Chosen One”. I grind my flour , so when I separate the bran from the bread flour I just mix it with some of the whole wheat and it’s the dump for whatever bran or left over whole wheat I grounded. Feed it twice a day it’s always hungry and has not let me down.
My starters' name is Bear~ Strong when he is out feeding and goes to hibernation with grace! So enjoy you!
That's a great name too!
really loved the slides ! anyway your way to inprove your skills and knowledge ( and ours) through the scientific way of thinking of a precise and mathematical and metodic as your job suggests you to keep is amazing ! many thanks
My husband who is German got to name ours. His name is Oskar. My sourdough turned out like the German bread you showed on the right. I’ll have to tweak my timing and ratio because Oskar is a flour eating beast and a n Australia, it’s starting to get warmer in Victoria, so in 45 minutes he was rising up like lava. I’m using whole wheat sprouted flour from Laucke, for reference. Thank you very much for all the tips. I love your German approach to making bread.
I used a 50/50 Rye, Bread Flour to feed my starter for baking one day. It was doubled after 6 hrs, but not very bubbly, so I left it in the cupboard another hour and marked the line with a rubber band. It still rose a little bit...then it seemed to have more bubbles. So, I used it in your "amazing overnight sourdough" video. The one that everything is mixed in at once and allowed to rise at rm temp. The overnight temp in our California home right now, is about 75 degrees. My bread rose some from ovenspring, but since it was half white half WW flour in it, in only rose about 2/3 or less after taking it out of the oven. Still denser than I like, as well. Not sure what I did wrong here either.
You are a gift to the world! Thank you so much!
After a week of making a sourdough starter with 100% rye 1-1-1 ration I have awesome results! And it smells soooo good. Afterwards I shifted to a 1-5-5 ratio. My sourdough is raising but seems a little sluggish. It will more than double in 12+ hours. Is this normal? How should a 1-5-5 sourdough starter react compared to 1-1-1 starter? Love your videos! Keep up the good work!
Great channel, I subbed! As for the starter, mine is 10+ years old and sat in the fridge abandoned for over a year. It still makes great bread after a couple of feedings, starting with one or two rounds of 1:1:1, followed by 2x 1:5:5. I think if I forgot about it for 5 years it would still survive. Haven’t tried the drying method yet, I don’t think it’s needed.
Your sourdough classes are my favorite. Thanks very much!
Just a shout out to say Thank You !!! Love your Live Chat ~ this is my 1st time viewing your live chat and I’m Learning bits and pieces. Love to Bread Pitt
Thanks very much for your instruction, much appreciated. Just started my first ever starter and called it 'First One' !, cheers !, Mike UK
I brought mine down to 5 starter, 20 g.AP + 10 g dark rye + 30 g. Spring water. I keep the little guy in the microwave with the door open, so the light is on to provide a bit of heat.
You mentioned health benefits of sourdough bread, with a question mark. There's still much to learn. But a study published in December 2019 tested the digestibility of three types of bread: conventional baker's yeast bread, sourdough with a moderate acidity and sourdough bread with higher acidity (mainly due to the time of fermentation). The nutritional values in the in vitro tests had the highest scores for sourdough breads. Sourdough bread with moderate acidification stimulated more appetite and made the test persons feel less full ("induced lower satiety") whereas the more acidic-tasting sourdough made them feel full in the shortest time. The emptying of the stomach ("gastric emptying") was faster with sourdough breads. Both types of sourdough breads had lower curves of blood sugar changes ("glycaemia response"). Sourdough bread has much more free amino acids than baker's yeast bread, and the levels of free amino acids were maintained at constantly high levels for extended time. [Rizzello et al. [2019],Sourdough Fermented Breads are More Digestible than Those Started with Baker’s Yeast Alone: An In Vivo Challenge Dissecting Distinct Gastrointestinal Responses, Nutrients 2019 Dec., p. 2954. doi: 10.3390/nu11122954. URL: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6950244/]
(The authors also refers to another study from 2019 that had shown that sourdough fermentation increased the protein digestibility and amount of soluble fibre, and a decrease of the glycaemic index, phytate content, trypsin inhibitors and other anti-nutritional factors.)
Interesting! I would also think that the breakdown of the flour by the amylase and protease enzyme makes a long fermented bread better for a person :-). Regardless of yeast/sourdough.
There is so much to learn about sourdough.
You had me at "good morning and GLUTEN tag." Corny bread jokes forrrrevvvver!!
"And a Czech one too" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please do this again some other time, the questions and answers are an excellent way of learning; you are good teacher. I also would like to know about the blisters method on the crust. Also wanted to share with you, there are thermometers that has Celsius and Fahrenheit on them to explain the difference . Thank you again, Sheila Kemp from California.
Hey Shelia. Thank you! As far as I can see the perfect proofing point, lots of steam and a dough with high hydration seems to be the secret to getting those blisters. I even got them a few days ago when proofing at room temperature.
My rye starter is called Roger (rye in German is Roggen) and my wheat starter is called Wheaton 😁 I'm feeding 1:1:1 and latest every two weeks there will be a new bread. So I'm not running in any issues. Viele Grüße!
Awesome names there! Greetings back.
I have one question for you, you only use a small amount of starter in your recipe, at what point would I want to use anything greater than 100, or 200 g of starter? I’ve seen some recipes that call for up to 200g, I tried it once, and still had no success with open crumb.
With your help, I think I have finally figured out by re-watching your videos, what I’m doing wrong. I will keep you updated.
I am the kind of person who wants to know why something does what it does or how things work, we have have the same kind of minds and I love the way you teach with your charts and data (I used to do that for a living, so I totally relate, LOL).
Thank you so much. 😋
Thank you for such generous session and all the information shared. Just a side feedback; have you noticed how many times you apologized and said I’m sorry this, I’m sorry that…? Your content is great and you put your own effort and personal touch to it, well done and you deserve to be proud of your knowledge and passion for sourdough 😊
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I learn so much from you! I've got my new starter named & going. Here's hoping my bread will eventually look as good as your bread.
You are most welcome! Good luck with your starter :-)
Das ist wunderbaar!! Love this teaching. Your friend from Sud Africa
I love your channel. I have some mind blogging questions that will blow up your engineering mind. Here are the two crazy questions...
1. *I heard you never need to discard and feed the starter weekly, only monthly.* A five month starving starter will still make amazing flavorful bread. Is this true that you only need to feed your starter when you are about to run out?
2. *Can you feed pasta shells* or actual crumbs to your starter because technically, both are just made from flour and water and that's what feed a starter?
If it's true that I never need to feed my starter unless I need more, and never need to discard, that is a game changer because you're not wasting flour and water daily or weekly. Throwing away starter is more costly than just buying yeast from Amazon.
I already fed pasta shells to my starter. My starter is now carnivorous because it feeds on its own child after baking bread. I created *first ever carnivorous starter* hahaha 😂 😂 😂 😂
I clicked on the thumb up button before I start watching, because I knew how its going to turn out!
Hi!
Thanks for your video - class
I am about to try to do my first starter! But first of all I am trying to study and learn everything as posible, I really like the scientific point of view you presented
I would apreciatte if you can suggest me some books or lectures, like the one you showed in the presentattion!
And again thanks! I really loved this video
What a fantastic video. So informative! I’ve now set up my starter - Hamilton. New subscriber 😊
Don't stop the jokes, the check 1 2 made me laugh out loud. Thanks for your wisdom and expertise, from one engineer to another I appreciate your approach to things.
Glad you like them!
Regarding wheat berries that have been stored for over 30 y in a sealed, dark space, container with some insert pancake to avoid moist. Also the berries almost ferments before It sprout (not sure if that is relevant).
1- how much protein will the milled flour have?
1- first time doing stater w Rye doing GREAT thanks to you. Seems like when I used the in question flour to feed the starter it needed more hydration to attain a mixture like when I use Rye. It also regressed not getting the x2 size increase. How will this affect the master piece I’m planning to make when I mimic your directions for 100% Whole Wheat sourdough bread?
Love your “Why u do…” behind the whole process. Thank you
I named my first two Hall and Oats ( they were started with different Types of flour) but I’m new to sourdough and I thought they had mold and I threw them out. Only to realize they were fine… 🤦♀️ but my new one is names “The yeasty bois” cause I love a good pun!
Very instructive video, thank you so much! You should make an ebook with all your charts and your tips! I have a question: when feeding the sourdough to make a loaf of bread, should we use the same ratio as the bread one? For example, if my dough is supposed to have a 65% hydration, should the sourdough have the same hydration to not mess with the final hydration of the dough? hope t makes sense...Thanks in advance for your help! A French-from-France living in Canada :-)
Great question. Typically the recipes account for the slight increase in hydration :-). So I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Sorry I missed your live presentation, I am almost ready to start a sourdough starter, Awesome video thank you.
Hope you enjoy! It's a great thing to do!
Best time for me to feed my starter to have it ready for baking next morning at 06.30 is around 15.00 day before.
So i usually take like 1G of starter and the amount of water/flower i need depending on how many breads im making. Sometimes it's at its peak and sometimes a little over in the morning.
This is obviously harder now when its been warmer to get right.
I always put it around 23 degrees and use icecold water.
How would you do to have it at it's peak in the morning?
I could bring the sourdough home and feed it at night but it's so simple to do it all at work. ^
thanks your awesome!
Nice. You mastered it. 1g of starter then some flour/water. I think you have a very healthy and active starter!
I have more than one starter, I have three for all my baking. It is "little brother" and his siblings.😊
Haha, good one too, indeed a little brother!
That is so cute.
Hi Hendrik, this was a great and highly informative video, which answered a whole bunch of questions I was afraid to ask. Alles klar!
Hi greetings from Malaysia. I am very new to this. After watching your video, I started making a starter using rye flour on 7/2 @7pm. The next day, it doubled. I fed it again @7pm too (8/2). This morning it had doubled too but @4+ pm, it started to drop. So I fed it @4.40pm. By 7.40 pm, it had doubled again. My question is am I supposed to feed it once a day? How do I know when it is ready to be used to bake ?
I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for all your videos. I learnt a lot from them.
Great video! All your videos are informative and entertaining. Keep them coming. By the way, my 12 year old starter is named Julia as a tribute to my Mom.
Chopstick is good for mixing! Gets to all the corners 😊
Hello, what is/are the “book/s” you mentioned towards the end of the video? I think that would help me to understand better. What love your videos and have saved most of them so that I can go back and review. Thank you for what your clear presented and for your help . I love that you explain them systematically with scientific methods. Thank you.
When you were travelling did you open the lid on your starter to pick up different yeasts/bacteria from those areas? Also would you also get the same affect from getting you flour from different regions?
Wonderful info! I adore your passion for bread making!
Gluten tag 🤣 i see what you did there.
What a great series this is. Thank you so much.
My question is on process. If I make, say, 2 loaves per week, will I need to feed my starter in between? Or can I just hold back enough at room temperature for a 1:5:5 feeding before starting the next loaf?
Gluuuuuten Tag 🤣. Let's say you bake on Monday. You can skip the feeding on tuesday. I'd give it another feed on wednesday evening and another on 1:5:5 on thursday evening, assuming you want to bake on friday. If you want to bake on saturday, give it one additional feeding.
@@the_bread_code thanks for the speedy response Hendrik. More Bread Code TH-cam for me tonight 😀
Bis dann, danke, tschüss
I wanted to name my starter Beth and then I asked someone what I should name my starter and they said Bethany so I guess we both had the same idea on sourdough names. Additionally for the people who use F°, 6°C is equivalent to around 43°F and if you want your sourdough to ferment slower but your fridge is too cold you can freeze a bowl and cover your sourdough container, it'll cool it for a few hours at least.
I have named it "Beauty and the Yeast"😀
What a lovely human you are! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. ~~Shelly in California 😀
You are so welcome!
I make 6 loafs at a time so I keep about a qt of starter or more. One wheat and one rye. I bake 3 or 4 times a week. I bake 100% rye a lot of the time. Your method I would be feeding it a lot of flour. I bake right from the mother starter. I discard then add a little over a cup of flour and a cup of water and it doubles.
Head Code, you are the man!!!
🤣 head code? I do have a big head, yep!
@@the_bread_code 😂
Hello my friend. Im Bill from Delaware, USA. I love your video's. I've seen them all and for sourdough masterclass probably 20x. I have so many questions and I like how you take the scientific approach. I'm a mechanical technician which is like engineer here in US. Our temperature here is very erratic and fluctuates alot. I also don't like my apartment more than 21°C . I have a hard time keeping my starter temperature steady. I tried oven with light on but seems too warm and i feed once per day. I use whole wheat 14.7%. I've tried ratios from 1-3-3 to 1-7-7. My starter barely doubles and then doesn't deflate much. Not much bubbles on outside of jar but bubbly inside then when I scoop or stir it turns liquid like. I keep it out everyday for about 2 months now because I try to bake with it so much. With this I seem to have everything else down except my sample does not rise and the bulk rise over ferments if I'm not careful so sample doesn't help me much and then dough doesn't proof and I get Frisbee (tho good for cutting up inside to toast for croutons). No difference if i bulk rise 8 hrs or 12 hrs. Also hydration seems good 70%. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? Sorry this is so long but I want to be thorough. You are the sourdough King 🤴. Thanks Bill.
Hey William. Try doing the bulk fermentation to a 30-50% size increase for your whole wheat flour. I'll have a new dedicated video on whole wheat flour coming out soon. Hope that will be helpful. The sample must be placed close to the main dough. It also only works if the temperature in your kitchen doesn't change that much.
Moin, during the process, each day after the sourdough doubled (let’s say we obtained 70g). We have to take a portion of the sourdough and feed it with flour and water (using 1-5-5 ration for me).
Question: what do you do with the left over of the sourdough produced ?
Try storing it in a jar in the fridge. Then once you have enough, make this amazing German discard starter bread. I love it: th-cam.com/video/7V3FyVzzVUI/w-d-xo.html
Am from India. I am liking your insights greatly. Am struggling to make
1) a rightful choice of wheat flour in India locally. Can you suggest what should I do? I don't intend to use costly online options like King Arthur flour etc..
2) am struggling for shaping quite a bit..can you please help here?
Thank you for you great information on sour dough . I’ve been making the sour dough bread over a year and the floating of starter has really helped me to know my starter is ready to start my recipe of water flour salt . I’m playing with higher hydration now and happy with the results. Drying my starter is a question I have ? Would it live if I dehydrated it? I could share with friends ?
Yep 🙏🏻. It will last for many years this way.
Why do you scoop some of the original starter into another jar? I don’t understand the intention of that. Thank you for the video!
Excellent video thank you for your knowledge. I have a question for you. @20:10 you mentioned that you had a starter almost die on you because you used all purpose flour. You believe that this was due to the lack of nutrition in the AP flour that caused this. You use Rye flour because more of the hull is in the flour mixture. It is the yeast on the hull that gives the "kick", there for makes an excellent ingredient for sourdough starter. Is it possible your starter is benefiting every time you feed the starter, because you are introducing new colonies of yeast into the flour mixture? That its not the nutritional value of the rye flour, but simply the fact you are replacing some of the dead yeast with new yeast from the rye flour you put in the starter, making it all that stronger?
I have seen other TH-cam videos were the presenter made sourdough from AP flour but it took a very long time 15 to 17 days to achieve a viable starter and during the cultivating process, the starter almost died, but then came back. These presenters also state that 15 to 17 days might not be long enough cultivation time to use the starter. That you have to cultivate up to 30 days to have a viable starter. Some presenters used a mixture of AP and whole wheat or AP and Rye which results in better cultivation. In either case the presenter stated you get a better results if you mix the flour. Also what I have learned if you "have" to use AP, use Unbleached AP flour. Bleached flour (which makes it white) is really not good for baking bread at all.
Hey Sideband, very interesting. Yep that could also be one of the factors. Especially if the acid is too high and you might have killed some yeast cultures.
All purpose starter could work - although I have never tried it. Maybe you end up cultivating some species that are good at mostly eating the starch. Unbleached flour, yep 100%. That makes sense.
Hey Hendrik, I missed your livestream unfortunately, only just caught up with it. Thanks for another great video 🙏. I have a question for you about pimping up my bread flour (12% protein). How much VWG should I add to 400g of this flour? I'm rubbish at maths! 😂 Thanks in advance x
For 500 grams of bread flour, try adding 15 grams of VWG :-). Then you are at 15% protein roughly.
My starter is called Baldur, because my 2 year old daughter always shouts that daddy is "making balls" whyle baking bread. Baldur was also a very hard to kill nordic god, as starters are per default. And as an austrian baldur sounds similar like "Ball"
Definitely a great name!
Like many people, I've been struggling with the Great Race between yeast and acid, trying to find the proper balance.
I've started fermenting my dough in a proofing box (80F) but still the yeast growth seems to be very slow.
No matter what I've done (so far), the acid seems to be winning. I've thought about adding a bit of sodium bicarbonate to the mix to give the yeast a fighting chance.
Today, I thought "Either this is a really bad idea or something Henrich might experiment with."
What do you think?
Hey David, oh noes! What's the issue with the final bread - you don't like the slight acidic note to it, or do you end up baking too flat breads? Try a 1:5:5 feeding for a few days once per day. Then prepare your levain and it should work :-)
I notice a Lufthansa inflight beverage cart in the background. Did you fly for Lufthansa? Love your videos …thank you.
😂 thanks. My girlfriend 🤗
Hi Henrich , thanks for sharing all the great tips and recipes.. Brat Pitt travels the world with you, how do u manage that with customs and do u hand carry him ? This would b a great tip to me as i wud love to bake sourdough bread for my son when i visit him in NY.. Or wud you suggest i check in the dry starter ? Travelling time from my country to NY is about 24hrs. Tks
Hey Maureen. As of now nobody bothered. I typically take it with me in a 50ml jar that I can carry directly in my hand luggage. Drying would definitely also work :-).
I live in Texas and its been around 100 degrees for days and mine is pretty much ready in 4 days.
Love your channel Hendrik ,you helped me improve my baking game tons 👌
Have you ever tried making Bagels? Would love to see your take on that if you find the time
Hey Steelrose. Thank you! I have made them before, but the recipe is not yet there where I want it. Will keep you posted!
@@the_bread_code You should check out Adongs recipie here on TH-cam, I had best results with that one 👍👍👍
@@the_bread_code th-cam.com/video/_oCc3fsMsZg/w-d-xo.html there you go
@@SteelroseNC Great! I took a note. Thanks!
Hello! I'm Lena from Rio de Janeiro. You're great! My question: my starter rises in 3'days at 25C. How do I know the right raising level to begin working the dough?
Hi Lena! I have found that starters can rise quickly at the onset, but don't feed the dough well enough to make it rise efficiently. I would feed my new starter for about a month, ensuring it is doubling consistently, before using it to make bread to ensure maximum success.
My starter is named Pluto in Aquarius or Pia because I started it this year, when pluto moves into aquarius. Kinda weird but I thought it would be a fun challenege to try and keep it alive the whole time pluto is in Aqua (until 2040 or so!).
Bread Pitt... I can't take it... that's sooo amazing :D
Hi Hendrik, I like your videos. They are interesting and full of helpful information. I have a question. I just started a sourdough starter a couple of days ago using whole rye flour. It is day 3 and it doubles in size after 4 hours, as I live in Hawaii, so it's practically always humid and warm, and often very hot. I feed it after 12 hours, but on this third day it started to deflate a bit after 8 hours. Should I wait the full 12 hours before refeeding, or feed earlier if it is deflating? And also, what about when the starter is established? If it deflates, does that mean it is time to feed it? Thank you kindly for all the info you are giving us, I appreciate it.
Feeding it once per day no matter where you are is enough! These days I like to make a stiff starter our of my existing starter, it could be a game changer.
Thank u, and I did plan to do that after the starter is established. I figure maybe a couple more days of doubling and then I will. Thanks again!
Henrich, when you talk about a 65% hydration 450g dough, are you also factoring in the contribution from the poolish or the starter? As an engineer, you really should!
Poolish: 80g, Salt: 9g, Flour: (450-40=410g), Water: (293-40=253g)
Right?
You are correct 100%. However, baker's prefer a little simpler math and make the recipe already work knowing that they will be adding more hydration via the starter. That's what I do as well :-). But on paper you are of course right.
@@the_bread_code that’s why you are the master! You understand the nuances!
I think slide 5 was supposed to be "Which four to feed your starter". Question: if I start with rye or spelt (Dinkel) flour, when can I add white flour (Weizenmehl T1050) to make it into white sourdough bread? I've been trying to make a sourdough starter using the bio type 1050 Weizenmehl from DM, but it's not rising after 8 days of feedings and discards - there are only a few bubbles on top.
Hendrick, have you ever experimented with Levains vs. sourdough? I know the Poolish is a type of leaving and when I used that to make your bread recipe...it was superactive and the best sandwich bread I ever baked.(It was my 1st loaf😎)
When I used an Einkorn starter and Einkorn flours exclusively(sooooooooexpensive) one year ago, starter was perfectly and consistently active. That author exclusively used the sourdough to make the leaven which was added to the dough and fermented overnight and bread rose, but that flour was way too sticky to handle from the rise to shaping, and expensive to continue using, so I switched to alternative artisan flours.
Her levain was not made with any yeast...just sourdough starter and one feed and then fermented overnight. I wanted to get away from yeast, but I see now, that at least the Poolish option is worth using it. I also use a baking system with stored bread made with yeast as an alternative method, when I don't want to start from scratch every time I make a loaf. But...not having great success with that either, but that method uses 1 tb yeast/no starter for a a 3-4 loaf batch of bread making...and still makes me queasy about yeast. I know SD is better for Type 2 diabetics, so that is my preferred method since my husband has it. For that reason, I liked it more when I used Levain from Sourdough starter rather than yeast-based. Any opinions and advice are always welcome. Also, some 5 inch mini boules recipes and measurements would be awesome, if I want to gift bread for Xmas.(provided I ever can get it perfectly right. Can't handle a fail, for that.)
Hey Maureen. It depends on what kind of flavor you personally like. A sourdough will always add a little bit of tang to the final dough. A poolish creates a more fluffy dough, not so strong in taste.
@@the_bread_code I like a bit of tang, so I like sourdough. But, after my experience with Einkorn's Levain System of baking, I liked it alot. To me, I had the best of both worlds: Sourdough Levain so sourdough flavor was good, but I didn't have to play around with sluggish starter. The Einkorn was always active when needed. I just mixed the SD levain with flour and water and put in in the cold oven overnight. No yeast.
I like the flavor and similar ease of Poolish. I don't mind adding a yeast...it's just not as "tangy" as we like it. I wonder if I could use Einkorn method for pre-ferment SD for your recipes? I think I will experiment.
After watching this video, I figured out how to properly feed and maintain the starter so that problem is solved. Thank you for your excellent videos and incredible knowledge about bread making. You have made a huge difference in my having more successes and less fails.
Thank you for your video very informative, I do have a question, if I have a rye only fed starter can I use this in a bread four loaf ? And the other way round if I have a starter made from only whole wheat can it be used in a 100% rye flour loaf ? Thank you and hello from Australian the land down under
Hey Tracey, yes - no worries that will work. I use my rye starter for everything. You can just change the flour of your starter all the time, nothing to worry :-)
Stanley Starter is the name i christened mine with!
But why should you dry it if you are away for over 4 weeks? If yiu have your starter in a jar that have a good seal it can be stored for month? I have read about people that have had their starter for month in the fridge and just refresh it abd bake with it?
Actually i have tried to make dourdough baguette. They whrre not the prettiest baguettes, but they where ok. I made them with a 75% hydration dough with some ryeflour in it. After fermentation i coldproofed them overnight and fold the dough kengthwise and cut them into oblonged pieces and just "layed" them out on the sheet without shaping them. I was pretty happy how they turned out🙂
I have thought about another way of making them. What about using a pastry bag? If you use a high hydration dough and having a large pastry bag with a large hole. You teoreticly would be able to fill the bag with dough and then spritzing out the doughs into perfect baguettes! You can easily decide how large and long you want them to be, just using the pastry bag!?😃
Fridge for 4 weeks should work too. The drying will work for a much longer period :-)
Sorry I missed you live stream just caught up, I think I've suss now how to get rid of some a if the sour taste. I have to have 2 jar 1 very sour . informative cheers
Give it a shot and let me know how that works!
Hi!Super! We use tape water or bottled water?
I will be calling my wholegrain starter "Kaiser culture" in honour of my favourite German baker :D
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Is there a reason why you cut off a sample instead of using a see-through vessel like a Cambro container and waiting for the entire dough mass to double in size?
Hey Dave. Mostly because I don't have such a container. It could also be a little hard to do a stretch and fold in a container like that. However - it is of course a little more reliable if you have changing temperatures as you look at the main dough. The sample could heat up/cool down faster as it has a smaller volume.
When I have developed starter and making bread, I take out 50g (starter) for my recipe. Do I feed the remaining starter every week going forward? Or do I remove 50g starter into a new container and mix 1-5-5? Some people on utube have a junk jar of the starter they removed from the original batch. Confusing to me
Loved the videos and naming my starter
I still have question- what you do with loads of glasses with previous starters???
Just watching this! My starter is Frankie - for Frankenstarter - because I thought I killed him but brought him back!
Hello! Great informative videos thank you so much! For making a starter should I use bottled water or is tap water ok? Also once making the bread dough again is bottled water better or is two water ok? Look forward to hearing from you! I’ve just started following your channel recently and love how you provide the how! I started baking sourdough at Xmas with a white starter my sister gave me. I’m keen to make a rye starter as prefer rye/wheat taste
Hope to hear from you soon!
Bottled and tap water should both be okay! Ideally no chlorine. Here tap water doesn't have chlorine :-)
@@the_bread_code great thank you!
Ideally, I think you want The Minerals from the water so be sure they are not filtered out. Or, let your tap water sit out overnight.
Have you ever used kefir in place of some of the water in sourdough. I make kefir daily and would like to try it.
Definitely works. Just replace the water with kefir.
Great video thanks, do you also use wholemeal flour for the starter and also for the bread or is it better to stay with white flour?
Hey Guy. Always using whole wheat for my starter here :-)
Do you ever just use wholewheat flour? I’m using organic wholewheat Spelt. This doesn’t rise as much as yours and requires several needing bouts over a longer period to avoid the acidic tang. Do you think this is right or might I be using too much starter?
Hi! I find your explanation very useful and precise, enjoyed all your video. I am staying in a hot and humid country, I tried to make starter but it is always not as active even after 10 days. I do see some bubbles but the starter pretty sticky and runny.. was it due to the acidity that you mentioned in the video? Should I adjust my ratio of feeding to 1:5:5 ? Currently I am using 1:1:1... about 10 days my starter still not rising at all, or should I feed twice a day ? Thanks for your help!
Moin Hendrik! I have 3-month-old 100% rye starter. It looks grey right after feeding but it turns slightly orangish/pinkish color when it doubles in size. I am a weekend baker, keep my starter in the fridge during weekdays and take it out to feed 2 days before using it. I find my sourdough bread has come out just beautiful so far with the starter. When it's too cold I put it in the proofer at around 20 C. I showed the picture of my starter to some people and asked them if it's okay to use it, and some say that no problem because it is natural rye color, but the others suggest just to discard it because they think the change of color is caused by mold. I have no idea what to do. I need your advice Hendrik. Thanks!
Hey N. Interesting. Try resetting your starter. Carefully remove a lot of parts of it and only leave a really tiny bit at the bottom of the jar, around 0.1 to 1 gram is enough. Then feed that mixture with 50 grams of flour and 50 grams of water. It should come back to live in 1-2 days. If it is still the same flour, it might be the rye you are using, if the color is changing, then it could be mold. Mold is relatively uncommon in mature starters as you have the acid blocking other microorganisms.
@@the_bread_code Thanks! I'll try. I hope it works!
“If you can save 50 cents, then why not save it”.
Words to live by, my friend!
where's the cheapest place to get weck jars? keep up the great work!
Gluten tag - very interesting video on the sourdough starter. It did not address one question I have.... You always feed 1:x:x. What about 1:x:y? For example, some use 1:1 starter and flout and add 0.5 water, for the stiff dough. It is widely used for sweet stuff (panettone, etc). I used it for sourdough bread, the result being much more sour. Seems this is favouring the lactic acid production. However, my vague understanding is that the aim of the stiff starter is an opposite - to remove sourness. Can you shed some light on other feeding ratios, such as 1:x:y please? Sank you!
Hey Dei. Interesting point. Yep - lievito madre is made as a stiffer starter. I don't see why it would make a less sour starter. I am yet to find some scientific proof on why that could be the case. If you find something, please share it with me. I am very curious!
@@the_bread_code Thanks for the reply! I think the end result is less sour because pasta madre is usually bathed in a slightly sweetened water before use. In my understanding, that's the only reason for the stiff starter - can't bath a liquid one. So it has a different ratios of yeast and bacteria compared to the 100% hydration. I'm sure there's more to it, but that's my current understanding... Seems to be mainly used for enriched doughs. I don't know if it provides better leavening for the enriched doughs as well, or if it's just for the flavour.
Can having a sink with bleach water( I was bleaching dish clothes) spoil your starter. On day three of attempt at making starter it had doubled in size, very active. Next day it did not rise at all. I had bleached the day before. Should I start over. Thanks for all your videos. I am using whole wheat bread flour to make my starter. We had a 50 degree drop in temperature on third day also. We live in Texas!
First of all, thank you so much for creating all of these videos. Thanks to you, my bread making skills have improved LOTS :). I have a question, when you talk about feeding ratios 1:5:5 you mean using that to create a levain right? what about feeding ratios for a day to day maintenance of the starter? I keep mine in the counter, fed 1:1:1 once a day but wonder if I need to change that (I have two starters, a whole wheat and a rye starter) and the rye is looking very sluggish atm. Many thanks from New Zealand :o)
Excellent question. Even for maintenance feedings I do the 1:5:5 ratio. After 24 hours it almost has as much yeast/bacteria again compared to a 1:1:1 ratio after 5-6 hours. Sometimes I miss a day in feeding though on the counter, but that's okay too. The 1:5:5 for the levain I find very important though :-)
@@the_bread_code thank you so much for responding. I’ll try to increase feeding ratios and see how it goes :)
The highest gluten flour I can find is about 11%. Is it practical to blend pure gluten (80%) to my flour to raise the gluten content of my flour? The gluten is very expensive. What would you do persist with low gluten flour or have a go at blending? Thanks Greg
What flour did you use for your starter, It looks like a mixture of flours ?
Hi! When the starter is ready how often we need to feed it?
How did you get your hands on that Lufthansa service cart?
You can buy them :-). They have been around all the world. Quite expensive, but I love it.
First thank you!!! Question: with your method of storing SD long term and using a 1:10 ratio, where do you store the jar? Can one leave in the refrigerator or in a cupboard? I’m concerned a cupboard might get too warm. .
I always heard stainless steel would ruin a yeast/dough. But I see you using utensils that look stainless, do you notice a difference?
Hey Rob, I heard this too. But then if you look at how wine is made, it is made very often in stainless steel tanks. So there is nothing to worry about.