Passenger Carrying Garden Railways

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
  • Made in 1989 this was my first home-grown venture as 'Festival Video'. It starts with an interview with Maxitrak's Andy Probyn giving an overview of the company and its then products - the success and continued expansion of the company now ranks it as probably the major player in the supply of miniature railway equipment. This is followed by a visit to Kent Laverty's 5" gauge line at Lyminge, situated very near the trackbed of the long lost Elham Valley Railway, which shows just how much you can get in a small space. David Best's long closed 'Greenfields' 7¼" gauge line was home to the mighty Dolphur, seen her in steam. The 'Wayside Light Railway' is very much operated on narrow gauge priciples and is seen during a busy, and rare, public open day. Another now closed line is Peter Howards 'Stoneleigh House Railway' where his collection of 10¼" gauge locos are seen in steam. Finally a visit to the ultimate garden railway, the 2ft gauge 'Bredgar & Wormshill'. Anyone who knows the railway now will be delighted to see how much it has changed in the last 25 years.

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  • @Metalguy40
    @Metalguy40 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ah. Good old VHS quality. I’ll always love it. Much like I do with these engines

  • @Glum1964
    @Glum1964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is so adorable at 27:00, that family that each went to different spots along the railway to simulate stops on the line. Just for the video! How sweet! I bet that railroad- and the kind of people who love them- have made that a healthy, fun family. Good on them.

  • @justincowgill8875
    @justincowgill8875 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    This is my motivation to become a millionaire.

    • @devvydoesstuff
      @devvydoesstuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol same

    • @wesbrackmanthercenthusiast4695
      @wesbrackmanthercenthusiast4695 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You could just have a farm and use them for moving goods

    • @hondaxl250k0
      @hondaxl250k0 ปีที่แล้ว

      Na not a millionaire. Just don’t have a wife or kids.. you will be set. Have your fun. For most working men you can have a family or toys. But we can’t afford both.

  • @legiontheatregroup
    @legiontheatregroup 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for making this film. I purchased it on VHS in the mid 1990s and have watched it more times than I can remember. I’m in the USA so I would otherwise never have gotten to see these wonderful miniature railways. Really enjoy your camera work and narration.

    • @DerekSmith1949
      @DerekSmith1949  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many thanks for your kind comment. Glad you enjoyed it, it all seems so long ago now :-)

  • @atombombproductions2118
    @atombombproductions2118 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    wow, I am such a procrastinator. I have always wanted my own railway, but never tried to get one. superb video.

  • @stanthesteam
    @stanthesteam 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Superb. I did have this (excellent) film on video until we moved house it was lost in transit. Many thanks for posting. Stan

  • @schutendohkji548
    @schutendohkji548 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love the switching actions on the 2ft gauge equipment.

  • @robertrockwell7581
    @robertrockwell7581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    man that 2 foot gauge would be fun.

  • @begudmaximan953
    @begudmaximan953 ปีที่แล้ว

    I particularly favour the 10+1/4" gauge as being ideal as a comfortably sized passenger rider without being over bulky nor too compilcated, each to their own preference I guess!
    Such a variety of miniature gauges being available to choose from is certainly impressive.
    A well put together video, top marks.😊

  • @angelsone-five7912
    @angelsone-five7912 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having done some market research I can confirm that no matter what the gauge this is still the preserve of the well to do.

    • @DerekSmith1949
      @DerekSmith1949  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not so - of course if you want a big set up like this then you do need a lot of money, but there are smaller lines around ordinary domestic gardens that have cost less than £2k. The second hand market for smaller lines equipment is still quite bouyant. I started my own small railway when I lived on the Romney Marsh for about £800 - people spend that quite happily on a computer but that's nowhere near as much fun.

    • @haroldpearson6025
      @haroldpearson6025 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, you can join a local model engineer club and use their track. Setting up to build a steam loco can be expensive or if you prefer shop around and purchase a loco. I built my first loco, a Tich, when I was 12/15 in the 1950s. I still have that engine.

  • @CaptBubble
    @CaptBubble 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, thanks. We visited the lovely Bredgar and Wormshill Light Railway recently.

  • @allanegleston13
    @allanegleston13 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    in the states wed call this , live steam. some excellent railways :)

  • @schutendohkji548
    @schutendohkji548 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like that Samuel in the Wheatbread toaster the best! Thank you for the video.

    • @joshneville8254
      @joshneville8254 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Schuten Dohkji in this computer age he says as a thumper comes past 😂😂

  • @theventuracountyrailfan
    @theventuracountyrailfan ปีที่แล้ว

    This was my childhood

  • @stephencook1395
    @stephencook1395 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Driving truck now complete, based on Ride on Railways chassis. Passenger truck underway. Now all on its way to the new location. Track laying starting later this year.

  • @JoeyBatman888
    @JoeyBatman888 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The garden raikway(the first one) is still in situ but looks like it’s hardly used now and a bit overgrown. Don’t know when it was last used.

  • @JoeyBatman888
    @JoeyBatman888 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The garden raikway(the first one) is still in situ but looks like it’s hardly ever used. Looking a bit overgrown in places now.

  • @stephencook1395
    @stephencook1395 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well my 5" gauge railway is underway, at least my first loco is built, based on a 5" chassis from Maxitrak, with 5 metres of track indoors at the moment, pending a move.

    • @Apollo_Vanron
      @Apollo_Vanron 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is working out for you now?

  • @Basset86Trains09
    @Basset86Trains09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    31:20 that’s how you perfect a coupling

  • @EpicNotch
    @EpicNotch 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    in our computer age? you aint seen nothing yet!

  • @mitchmatthews6713
    @mitchmatthews6713 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is just TOO COOL!

  • @_TheJp_
    @_TheJp_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would vote for 7 1/4
    My build would be:
    Covered loco + covered passenger wagon + open passenger wagon + flat empty wagon.
    Always light on and red back signal .
    :D

  • @williamarmstrong5809
    @williamarmstrong5809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    narrator: building a rideable garden railway is within the reach of most people.
    average price of 5 inch steam loco: £7000

    • @DerekSmith1949
      @DerekSmith1949  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A battery diesel in 5" gauge is these days about £1300, which I think still makes it affordable.obviously if you want to go to steam it is more expensive, but for most starters the route is via battery.

  • @wooltman
    @wooltman 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi Derek.Excellent video,most of the railways I hadn't heard of how long ago was it taken?Cheers Chris.

    • @DerekSmith1949
      @DerekSmith1949  10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I filmed it in 1989 - Since then the Stoneleigh House and Greenfields lines have closed, whilst Maxitrak, Bredgar and The Wayside have gone on to bigger and better things.

    • @Alarmkid23
      @Alarmkid23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DerekSmith1949 what happed to the lyminge line did it ever open to the public?? also the speed limit in the Wroxham directions approaching the crossings at belaugh green and sprats green is now just walking pace (2mph) due to blind visibility. in the alysham direction its still the 5MPH limit at both crossings

  • @aboxashimov5615
    @aboxashimov5615 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so cool i like these trains!!!!!

  • @themainnerd0566
    @themainnerd0566 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    sorry, I am building a 4-6-2 Tender engine

  • @CrystallisedEntertainment
    @CrystallisedEntertainment 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Derek,
    Do you happen to know what happened to Greenfields' Petrol-Electric locomotive after the railway closed?

    • @DerekSmith1949
      @DerekSmith1949  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Other than it was sold on I don't know where it went. I did ask David but he couldn't remember but thinks it was sold at least once more after he sold it. I'll ask him again next time I see him but don't hold out much hope.

  • @WorthlessNickores
    @WorthlessNickores 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The sound of a steam train goes: Chew chew (horn) choke an ick or, choke an ick or (faster and faster)

  • @matthewpeter
    @matthewpeter 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    that Dolphur is a beast isn't it

    • @DerekSmith1949
      @DerekSmith1949  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it is - there was also a 5" gauge version floating around at some point. Last time I saw it the loco was at Bentley.

    • @matthewpeter
      @matthewpeter 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Derek Smith there's quite a number of 5" versions about, Reeves sell the castings. Really superb video Derek.

  • @megajeremiel
    @megajeremiel 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Technically you can build a garden railway over a weekend if you want a small layout but if it is a big one then that's a different story

  • @phill7651
    @phill7651 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice little video.

  • @riggstwenty2
    @riggstwenty2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want one !

  • @jernejfunkl8300
    @jernejfunkl8300 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 1:28 i saw white Yugo :) !! This is Yugoslavian build car in mid 80... LOL :)

    • @DerekSmith1949
      @DerekSmith1949  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes it was mine. A local garage was selling them so we bought two - one for me and one for my wife.

    • @jernejfunkl8300
      @jernejfunkl8300 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very interesting.Ihope that you enjoy with him.I did not know that this car was also exists in the UK :)

    • @DerekSmith1949
      @DerekSmith1949  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It didn't last for long in the UK but it was a fun car to drive.

  • @nbc_uk
    @nbc_uk 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice and inspiring video. Are there any out and back 7.25 lines in the UK, or are they all circuits?

    • @DerekSmith1949
      @DerekSmith1949  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can't really answer that with any certainty - I'm sure all the public ones I know are continuous circuits. I think there are some lines in private gardens that might, due to space contstraints be out and back, but that's about it.

  • @marcolorenzosupnet9321
    @marcolorenzosupnet9321 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not crying

  • @haroldpearson6025
    @haroldpearson6025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There over 200 model engineering clubs in UK most will have tracks that accommodate 3.5/5 & 7.25in gauge locos. The problem is its a dieing hobby as youngsters not interested.

    • @DerekSmith1949
      @DerekSmith1949  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That problem has always been there. I can't remember a time when young people played a very active part. One of the problems is that it is still a compativly expensive hobby - even with a reasonaly priced 5" gauge diesel like the Maxitrak Ruston you would still have to find club membership fees, transport to and from the club track etc. That's an outlay of over £1,000. True you may be able to join a club as a junior member and take advantage of a club loco but I never see a club actively trying to promote junior membership to a wide audience.

  • @stuartcompton1620
    @stuartcompton1620 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Re the 7 1/4in Dholpur 2-8-4T at Greenfields, what was the origin of that particular loco? Was it based on the 5in gauge Kennions drawings?

  • @Dutcharmytent
    @Dutcharmytent 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @themainnerd0566
    @themainnerd0566 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    30:52. I am building a 4-4-2 tender engine in this scale

  • @davidbradt6202
    @davidbradt6202 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could make one the only part that I can't do is the cylinders and axles why are they so expensive?

  • @ewaeesmachines693
    @ewaeesmachines693 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im only 12 but I still aspire to build my own garden railway. Im just afraid that I may not have enough money when im older

    • @DerekSmith1949
      @DerekSmith1949  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Military Nerd. It needed be expensive - we all had to start somewhere and there's lots of 5"gauge ground level lines about. Don't give up hope.

    • @ewaeesmachines693
      @ewaeesmachines693 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Derek Smith thanks mate

    • @PanosSkarp
      @PanosSkarp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm 18 and I want to make a 10.25-12 inch guage railway like seen but public and with about 10 miles of track on a tourist heavy island here in Greece. My 3 big concerns are the liscence the will that I'll have until then and the terrain. Not many flat areas in Greece I'm afraid. Very nice video though! I wish one day I can be in one too.

  • @SamSitar
    @SamSitar 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do garden railway points (switches) work?

  • @SidneyPratt
    @SidneyPratt 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks.

  • @petea2485
    @petea2485 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why did the signal man take a token from the driver?

    • @rogo23
      @rogo23 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Richard Hughes I think it's the token to use that bit of the line, so when the next train comes through, the token has to be given to that driver so he can use the track :)

    • @bradenkilby
      @bradenkilby 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Token work

  • @bertrumbumfishfuker2400
    @bertrumbumfishfuker2400 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thats numberwang

  • @JoeyBatman888
    @JoeyBatman888 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where was the stoneleigh house railway?

    • @DerekSmith1949
      @DerekSmith1949  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was in the garden of a house in Sutton Road, Langley, just south of Maidstone. Long gone I'm afraid and no trace remains.

    • @stonesoup-bv6nn
      @stonesoup-bv6nn 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Derek Smith in saskatchewan

  • @sj9345
    @sj9345 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    neat!

  • @rparker069
    @rparker069 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ah yes, steam rideable railways. Because who doesn't enjoy an afternoon of being blasted in the face with high temperature steam?

    • @Waldbahner
      @Waldbahner 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I love it :-D
      Don't forget the sparks and cinders... the coal black and oily hands... operating a steam locomotive, both in real size or rideable size, is real joy.

    • @rparker069
      @rparker069 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't get me wrong I love getting my hands dirty, I just don't really enjoy being steam blasted while trying to enjoy myself

    • @rparker069
      @rparker069 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes but normally you get paid to do that

    • @rparker069
      @rparker069 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** >not using diesel-electric master race with sanding
      >what is trains

    • @johnkuzma7066
      @johnkuzma7066 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's the joy of it if it was clean it would be exactly like a push button start diesel.

  • @mheyqu22
    @mheyqu22 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍😎

  • @Trainmaster1907
    @Trainmaster1907 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2ft is not a model it is just a narrow gauge train

    • @DerekSmith1949
      @DerekSmith1949  8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Never said it was a model. It's a two foot gauge line in someones garden that carries passengers - therefore it is a passenger carrying garden railway.

    • @Trainmaster1907
      @Trainmaster1907 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Derek Smith yah you never called it a model

    • @owilliams1031
      @owilliams1031 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Railways of this gauge have been installed in quarries, mines, factories, and on farms. So they actually straddle the distinction between models and reality.

  • @weerapatcep1839
    @weerapatcep1839 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    where i can get these

  • @BattleshipOrion
    @BattleshipOrion 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol im going into 1/8 scale and this is basic im starting off with a EMD SD40-2 abd soon after il be hiring a company to make UP 4014 RESTORED gas fueled

    • @bradenkilby
      @bradenkilby 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      csx68 midwest and western railroad cool

  • @SuperAWaC
    @SuperAWaC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    once only within reach of the wealthy, and now, once again, back only into the reach of the wealthy.

    • @DerekSmith1949
      @DerekSmith1949  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      By not being too ambitious its possible to build a passenger carrying line in your garden for a reasonable amount. Ken Laverty's line at Lyminge is a case in point. There are lots of components available now to build your own battery loco and passenger coach if you can't run to a fully built system.

    • @SuperAWaC
      @SuperAWaC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DerekSmith1949 if you own property these days it makes you automatically wealthy- much of the younger generation will never be able to afford properties like the ones shown in this video at this rate.

    • @haroldpearson6025
      @haroldpearson6025 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SuperAWaC Join a local club

    • @SuperAWaC
      @SuperAWaC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@haroldpearson6025 i already volunteer at some minature, grand and full scale railroads