Destiny Reacts To Vaush Manifesto Post
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- Destiny reacts to "The Vaush Minifesto: Disappointment, Hypocrisy, Echochambers, And Actual Spite Based Politics"
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Date: 3 Mar, 2022
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TO CLARIFY: This isn't Destiny's manifesto. Destiny's manifesto will come out later and will also address his ban from Twitch.
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"He's An Absolute Coward!" - Vaush Says Goodbye To Destiny FOREVER ►th-cam.com/video/PMqv5Wcp-8M/w-d-xo.html
Addressing Vaush's Allegation ►th-cam.com/video/JT96XjL_Ydg/w-d-xo.html
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@@degeneresqueen6084 This is the role play first
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It's pretty amazing the mom replacement Vaush lives with is his "Girlfriend" and we've seen his member on stream and it's up there with Donald trump in size.
I have to say though is using a VPNs on piratebay even do anything? That's the only reason I use VPNs and I don't even know if it does anything.
@@qualivia it stops your internet provider finding out about you torrenting stuff, so yeah.
The tragedy of two boys who yearn for each other's embrace, but neither willing to submit to be the bottom
Now THIS is the smartest comment here.
Based
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@Estrogen Fury Does BreadTube know of no other way to categorize its opposition than by calling all of them "reactionary"? Gawd I'm tired of that word.
@Estrogen Fury Fair enough. And I agree about bread tube.
Destiny: "We only need one, we're good"
August: *immediately plays the second clip*
August knows what the people want
August is goated no wonder Jada cheated on will with him.
August: "I am a generous god"
The editor has the final word in any foght
August is a champ no doubt lol he knows what we want
I’m ready for Destiny’s career as an audio book narrator. What a silky smooth orator.
His oratory skills know no bounds 😉
Once he gets banned off TH-cam he might kekw
he's got those oral skills
Orator
Meh, his voice is a little nasally.
😉
Vaush is like the human manifestation of the entire r/IAmVerySmart subreddit.
His audience makes trump supporters look like intellectuals
He speaks like he's constantly in a Yu-Gi-Oh battle.
@@thegrinderman1090 bruh why is this such a fantastic metaphor to describe him lmao
@@thegrinderman1090 hahahaha fucking true. Great comparison
He really isnt lol. You can hate the guy, but he really just is smart. He is pretentious and advocates for some bad policies but people in this community really twist who he is. I've been here for two years and it feels like I am seeing a completely different person.
Can’t handle Vaush or Hasan anymore. Hate to say it but Destiny was right about both of them.
And then there's people like me, who have been trying to raise the alarm for years, just ecstatic that the "normies" are finally starting to see him for what he is: An obese sexual deviant whos sole talent is making absolutely ridiculous claims but stating them with absolute confidence and authority in a successful attempt to garner an audience made up of strictly gullible idiots.
Nothing but a glorified gaslighter.
Same, after being a fan of Vaush and Hasan for 2 years, watching Destiny is a breath of fresh air.
What did Destiny say about Vaush and Hasan? Everything that I know come from random memes on the internet.
@@owabowa Hasan is a clout goblin with no real convictions. He’ll just take the most woke take on everything to win internet points even if he’s basically disingenuous or flat out wrong. Vaush is a weirdo that’s basically role playing and trying to act edgy for shock value. His real life implementations are so unrealistic and make no sense.
@@EsotericOccultist This.
100-1 odds on vonch even addressing this slightly more then “destiny viewer wrote some obsessive rant mischaracterising me”
Funny thing it wasn't Destiny who wrote this
How much are we betting? Considering Destiny didn't even write it, I'll take those odds.
Yeah he is too deep in his own head now. He can no longer differentiate between legitimate and illegitimate attacks, because he receives so many, and he is too biased and arrogant to sift through them to find the legitimate ones. So yeah, he will just say its some "schitzo posting" by DGG and move on.
I can hear it now
Imagine becoming a hardcore fan of fellow chatter called Irish Laddie.
Vaush is the best example on the internet of just how many people are gullible to ridiculous ideas so long as the person states them with confidence and authority.
@@stansmith7445 Yes exactly, just worse.
Like ANYYYYY FUCKING PERSON In the POLTICAL SPECTRUM EVERRrRR!!!!! Hahaha lolz whoopty frickin doooo!!!! Lolz
@@foxfairchild2458did you really try to equivocate
You just described destiny
Wait so saying anything with authority or confidence means that you're manipulating people?
What?
I had actually followed Vaush every now and then and was willing to overlook his very questionable takes. The moment he criticized Destiny for caring too much about the truth, it just clicked that he actually stands for nothing at all.
Welcome to socialists there no different than Nazis and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. Change one word Irishladdy says and he sounds like the rest of them.
@Russian Waifu that's the biggest skin crawl about him the most that just creeps me the fuck out and now die hard his supporters are. But honestly that can be said for a lot of content creator fanatics
Vaush is literally the PC Principal from Southpark.
He cares as much about the lgbtqowo+ as long as the cash flows and he land some hookups.
@@Tempus62 that's not true
@@EsotericOccultist right wingers are dumb by nature so that's not a gotcha
Wow, this will really get Vaush to do some rethinking after this right? Right...?
copium
You have to think before rethinking
he doesn't have any kind of introspection, his ego is up in the space. That ego and politician talk is doing all the heavy lifting for his fame, his brain is too fucked up by deep nihilism to even take anything he says as worthwhile
You a funny man
Oh totally. Dude is an introspection machine.
Vaush completely lost me last year when he admitted to saying he'd lie to promote his ideas. If he wasn't socialist say he were an authoritarian or a conservative or a monarchist his audience would have ripped him apart. How can you rely on someone for argumentation and knowledge when they've said they would lie just to win?
Yeah that made me not even want to watch his videos just to see what him and his people think. They're liars
He began to lose me when he tried to justify his kneejerk, seething reactions to criticism on a public forum as some high-iq strat that everyone else was too dumb to get, despite him obsessing over the "optics" of Destiny and Hasan's similar outbursts. In the past he would have passed it off as him being edgy and malding (good). Instead he tried to act like he was being unfairly crucified by the ignorant masses for shit enlightened tweets.
Streamers just need to admit they're dumb and reactive but Vaush lionizes himself as above it all. I really do think the longer you stream the less human you become.
😂So we got out of his community at the same time...Gigachad morality 👍🏾
Yep, you never really know what his ideas are because he has explicitly said he’d lie about them. The ‘market socialist’ facade ends as soon as you have acquired enough power. That being said, I watch plenty of people I disagree with; I think it’s good for people.
Not only that, he also walked his way into epistemological anti-realism *just to avoid admitting he was wrong*.
Like, holy shit. Game over. That's literally an admission from him that there's no point in ever talking to him about anything. Ever.
I have NEVER witnessed anyone so insecure as to walk themselves into that position just to avoid biting the bullet.
Very salient critiques. This video has helped elucidate vowsh's invidious behavior and has ultimately ameliorated the discourse around this multifarious issue.
Huh?
Hmm yes, cogent and succinct filibuster
lmfao
ye
Vowsh talks like he’s writing a fucking novel
“Former DGGer for life” is pretty funny lol.
Surely, when Vaush hears about this, he will have a come to god moment and change for the better. Surely.
I’d bet money he just 100% ignores it and says “guys come on he’s just obsessed and spiteful we don’t need go watch it” and his fans will be like “huuuu truuuu remember he cheered on the rape of that child????”
Hopefully.
How new are you?
@@blegh336 Advanced humor, meet head. Oh shit too high, too high!
@@blegh336 i believe it's sarcasm
This morning I told myself I was gonna delete the TH-cam app from my phone. Then I clicked this video with absolutely no fight. I am powerless over my politics soap operas.
This comment is relatable af for me. I delete the TH-cam app off my phone like twice a week, and every time I come back just to see which politic stream drama is going on.
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@M S input disregarded
I am just Australian
@@Minecraftdemon99 from the land of the Editors. Inshallah, bröther.
Don't forget the other timezones, it's 11pm here.
australian checking in at 9:06pm
Destiny's editor is a god.
destiny: "2:20:00 for the other execution timestamp? we only need one, we're good"
august: "ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT"
@@johnlonne7062
It takes effort to do this daily, shifting through hours of footage and being able to provide relevant information in the form of videos/screenshots when the stream highlight requires it. The editor doesn’t just clips things together and call it a say, the editor is educated on Destiny’s history by basically doing a mini-video essay daily. It wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a team of editors instead of just a editor.
"Oh, no no no, I wouldn't kill you. I would have people for that."
Holy shit Vaush is a psycho. I think we all knew that, but I also don't think it can be understated.
And I don’t think he’s kidding when he says he’d prescribe the confiscation of property, and execution, of people who don’t comply with his socialist revolution. (As long as he’s a leader of that revolution and is able to keep his wealth of course.)
@@murderparker7968 I don't think he's kidding, but I do think he's posturing. I don't think he *would* do anything or that he *could* gain any mainstream support in the real world
@@crzyprplmnky I dunno man, it wasn't too long ago that just calling yourself a socialist in western countries was socially taboo, the same as if you self described yourself as a cannibal. As it should be. Cannibals are actually more benign than socialists, at least only a couple of people die if you're a cannibal. Thousand or millions die because of socialism, every time it's tried. And look at how many people support it now. To act like it's unreasonable for a large number of people to support violent tyranny like Vaush is suggesting is just naive, I would even say dangerously naive.
@@EsotericOccultist lmao, leftists are either liars or idiots. There's not a 3rd option.
@@EsotericOccultist Nah. They have their own share of stupidity to fall for.
"The right lies on purpose!" says the guy who lies on purpose
Well he is not wrong
@@highcouncil1302 does the left lie on purpose?
@@bathcat3759 of course both sides do
@@highcouncil1302 fair enough
I've been willing to give vaush a lot of grace in his bad takes in the hopes of him improving and but I've reached my limit with the guy. At this point, denying his blatant misrepresentation and bad faith treatment of his detractors is borderline delusional. Destiny has fucked up now and then with misrepresenting vaush but the scale in which it is now is so heavily weighed against vaush that it isn't even fair to make the comparison anymore. The dude has really let me down. The funny irony is I ended up discovering destiny through vaush and not the other way round, so I've been primed to support the guy. At this point though the camels back is well and truly broken.
Why would you give vaush a chance? Why give really bad people a chance? It’s clear after 3 hours of listening to vaush that he is a really bad person.
this is the same criticism people make of destiny.
verdict? people think the exact same things of people they dont like and there is no point to this other than that
@@BatsAndBadgers you can criticize anyone about anything, the difference with vaush is that 90% of the criticism is is what Vaush actually does or advocates for in real life.
@@BatsAndBadgers Yes Destiny and everyone else do bad things as well. BUT 90% of what Vaush does or says is bad, violent or not based in fact or good faith. He is a bad person to a far greater degree than most debate people on the internet.
@@philodox7599 like?
Watching this at 5 AM (not a cult btw)
@M S I work nights so this is normal for me
same dud
watching it at work (not a cult btw)
Honestly, August is the big difference between Vaush & Destiny while they're doing this whole proxy debate in the background, because when Vaush says something about Destiny on one of his videos, he sort of just says it and moves on, but when Destiny says something about Vaush, August substantiates it ad nauseum. Vaush actually did these very same types of cutaways for the Kat Blaque thing, but they seem to be missing more and more whenever he talks about Destiny.
Cold war arc
Some new craziness to listen to at 6:30am. Destiny (and August) provides. 😁👍
Good morning friend, hope you have a good day
3am for me 😂
Good morning all.
As a 50yr old Pagan (yep...for real) dude of color, I know I'm not his regular demographic, but I've been watching him for about 5yrs. He's correct more often than not and he's speaking for a great swath of liberals, soc dems, questioning progressives, and conservatives who haven't been driven ideologically mad.
Outside of a few rhetorical missteps and a couple takes I've disagreed with, Destiny has been an overwhelming good for both liberal and progressive discourse online. Anyone who disagrees with my assessment is objectively wrong and thinking with their feelings.
For real haha I love that he’s in my time zone now
@@hewhomustnotbenamed9276 That last statement makes it hard to discern if your comment is satire, so lemme clarify; You serious?
I remember realizing how stupid I sounded trying to pace out the logic of Vaush’s “tactical n-bomb” to my boyfriend 💀 I sounded so stupid. I didn’t even agree with Vaush at the time but just saying the logic out loud was so bad that was the moment I knew maybe this Vaush guy is a bit iffy
condolences.
TRUE. I had a conversation about why socialism is better than capitalism with my ex by using Vaush's arguments. Midway through our conversation, I started debunking Vaush's arguments before she could. I felt so stupid. That's when I realized, maybe Vaush ain't it.
@@robbiedontmiss which argument.
That was his dumbest one ever. Not because it was a bad argument. But be careful he could never hedge it publicly.
I'm glad that you've grown since then, cause anybody who's not of X demographic that says "I'm saying X slur that isn't related to me at all to show you that any slurs that are related to me and directed towards me as an insult will not bother me", the argument is fine when it's your own but using a slur from another demographic to claim that your own slurs hold no power over you is some dumb sh*t
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No the online community LITERALLY think that that ANY negativity toward the on line community is harassment no matter how benign. Hence why you’re a Transphobe for ANY negative to the “ community” at all.
The real bad faith was the friends we made along the way.
🤣🤣🤣
Destiny: the next timestamp of the execution comments are 2 hours in? We dont need to watch that.
August: yes we fucking do
It’s so obvious how Vaush started to distance himself after he got optically (and logically) obliterated first in the Rittenhouse case and then in the lefty business owner debate (the Philosophytube one). Ever since he smears Destiny any chance he gets, primes his community against him. Vaush might have thought he can take over the role Destiny held since the latter half of the 2010’s by squeezing him out of the left-leaning online space jumping the bad faith optics bandwagon - but he strongly miscalculated. He is far less logically consistent and intelligent, and has way too big of an ego.
The fact he appealed his ban with twitch as soon a Destiny was gone shows what a coward he is.
And his fans were cheering him on for it, not even seeing what an absolute spiteful coward he is. He has truly and throughly poisoned the well with his audience when it comes to Destiny.
I feel like Steven Kenneth (Destiny) Bonnel II has outpaced Vaush, intellectually.
Lmao wut
@@rcurl44
You need to indicate who you are responding to and “wut” you’re questioning.
@@c0mplex564 so has my blue heeler. No disrespect to Destiny, I'm actually starting to like him quite a bit. But saying he's smarter than Vaush isn't saying much.
There's so much LORE in this video. I was there for so much of it, too. My god how far we've come.
LOL at the chapter names... loving the promo end part
August never disappoints with those clips. Can’t even tell you how much worse these videos would be w/o the amazing editing. Good content, buddy!! GODSTINY
25:45 I love moments like this, when Destiny is watching Destiny watching Vaush talking about seeing Destiny the way Vaush sees Destiny
Hope the Destiny's manifesto will be eye opening about him to other people's communities mostly. It's tiring to see so many people ( especially on the far left ) just miss quote or blatantly lie about Destiny's positions and or what he said. Can't wait for that to come out 🙏 this one was fun during the stream.
No one has been done dirtier!
A lot of destiny’s stuff is defensible, but that rape stuff 2 months ago was so gross
Constant gaslighting! That’s where I broke w the left. I think there’s a lot of young ppl that need to be humbled a little bit-just a thought, but you’re right on this.
I mean...Destiny also misquotes and misrepresents other streamers' positions. That kind of drama just comes with the territory.
@@FishSticker that was probably the easiest to defend position lmao. Destint never called the woman a retarded child but everyone made it appear like he did. His position was 100% logically and morally consistent
I loved watching Vaush for like a year, like 2020 I think. but when he starting saying things like he he cares more about winning than he cares about the truth, I was like "he sounds like Andrew Brietbart", and I lost all respect for Vaush.
someone who believes that TRUTH can't really lead to victory, loses my respect.
August, my friend. Another banger. Instant hood classic and running on trending. My boy you earn those paychecks.
Just curious, do you prompt your editor to add in those clips, or do they do it themselves? If not, your editor deserves a raise. Truly great at their job
I've always known Vaush purposely tries to use unnecessarily flowery language to appear smart & he comes off as being so incredibly pompous, it's why I've never subscribed to him & never will. God I remember his video attacking everyone in his chat for not being in open relationships LOL. I know this manifesto will make Vaush big mad
Really liked the “Promo End” segment, more like it please!
Damn he must of had some kind of vocal training. His voice has changed so much, and he puts SOOO much work into manipulating his voice during conversations. Maybe this is petty, but its one of the MOST off-putting things he does. You just feel like he is brazenly trying to manipulate you the entire conversation.
Probably is where he spends time instead of researching politics and philosophy
@@fredbologn2344 Yeah, it triggers my inner bullshit radar, where i cannot view any of his points in an unbiased way, because I can feel the unnatural manipulation of his voice, and I subconsciously defend against it by being hyper-critical of what he is saying.
He has kinda mid Atlantic bourgeois affectation and it is so off-putting. You know he indulges in all these power fantasies about himself and that's the version that he is projecting to his audience.
Yep. And that by itself betrays how utterly insecure the guy is if he is willing to go to those lengths.
He literally talks like a cult leader talking down to people like a super genius that understands the world lol
The Tacoma wept thing is hilarious. It’s posturing of the most braggadocios variety.
Very salient critique
He can ameliorate his maidenless status within 2 hours.
Seriously, even if he really does hook up with as many women as he suggests, those types of women wouldn't bat an eyelash if he went away, they would just find a new pole to smoke. Those type of women don't care who's attached to the pole.
@@markzuckergecko621 have you seen his girlfriend? I'm sorry but she's not much to brag about. And I don't just mean looks wise - she's just as ugly a person inside as Vaush
I'm perplexed when I think of all the people that look up to Vaush and take him seriously. Teenagers probably.
Anyone who takes any of these internet “debate bros” are teenagers
Broke losers who have bought into the ideology that it's someone else's fault they're broke losers.
@@erikryan8663 who takes?
In my small time in Vaush comment sections, it truly is an echo chamber of annoying, debate obsessed communist/socialist tweens or people that are horrendously bad faith with anything and anyone that isn't Vaush. It's pretty toxic. It unfortunate that people that reside in communities like that don't realize or care that that's how all critical/productive conversation is completely stifled and negative beliefs are allowed to thrive, it's good to have your beliefs challenged, that's how you grow as a person
@@ryohio4706 And made worse when he told his mods to basically ban anyone with even milquetoasts opposition.
The editing, so beautiful 🤌😘
"his worldview includes the execution of me" LMFAO
Omg old Vaush sounds so much dorkier
Lol that exchange between Vaush and exskillsme kills me every time I hear it 😂😂. What Vaush was saying was wild but it’s pure comedy 😂😂
The tacoma wept thing had me dying not gonna lie, like chill Vaush lol
dude when i saw you slouched i was rolling xD right into my feeeeeed
Any August appreciators for this quality edited content?
August appreciators unite
Something that is super funny is that i used to be a staunch defender of Vaush, but since i consume both Vaush's and Destiny's content i realized that Vaush was so fucking bad faith against Destiny. It just kept on adding up with lying about Steve's positions, arguing that debating Destiny would be a waste of time, copying his mannerisms etc etc. And finally, not defending his ban of Twitch.
Same, except I came over earlier on the rittenhouse arc where vaush was proven wrong about every single goddamn thing he tried to say. I think vaush is slowly painting himself into a corner
Yeah still will watch his content because his rhetoric is good most of the time. But yeah this shit has me leaning way more towards destiny.
I used to not mind vaush, but now all everything he and his editor says is edgy reactionary hyperbole. Everytime he talks about conservatives it's something like "these people want trans kids dead". All he cares about is outrage and having a lefty circlejerk.
@@chasepalumbo2929 To me it was never really one thing. It was his behavior, his ego, him defending Hasan, bad faith, lying about Destiny, bad positions, bad argument and the constant posturing etc etc. Im usually pretty forgiving cause people are flawed, and i still watch some of Vaush's content but i am pretty critical about it. Still, Vaush does have redeeming qualities.
@@SnakeTheHat Yeah same here. But slowly leaning even more on Destiny's content. Vaush's content has become even more stale. Sometimes there are some gold nuggets.
Love the "promo end" section of this vid
4:45 both destiny's laughing at the same time makes me laugh.
Now I'm laughing too
Videos like this prove that destiny is objectively a better content creator and better faith actor than vaush
I always love hearing old vaush. You can tell how insecure he was with his voice where he just completely changed how he spoke. Them reterorics
Vaush has never taken any psychedelic drugs. I think he needs a trip..
54 minutes of "promo end", nice!!
Right in my feed
"It was cool to see a more left leaning voice that seemed to be at least more measured and capable of a good debate"
he says right after linking multiple videos of vaush saying anyone who disagrees with him gets the bullet. lmao
Quite the promo end
This vid has burned the "woloup" context clip transition sound into my brain now every time i flashback to a memory i will here "wululop"
Really hoping for a Destiny hit piece arc. Would love to see all these insane clips of people like Vaush and Hassan put together and explained
There's a documentary already on Vaush called "Vaush is unironically evil"
Go retro with it, lets hear about TonkaTrucks beamer
Bringing up all these past spicy Vaush clips makes me laugh even harder knowing what Destiny probably was banned for. The free passes some people get is kinda absurd.
@Destiny August, were you on r/place while recording TheSerfs debate section at 31:00? Sounded like the pixel ready notification sound.
4:50 past and present Destiny laughing with each other is so funny
lol didn't destiny literally just get heat like last week for calling a trans person sub human for their takes and ppl took that as being transphobic?? meanwhile years before we have our buddy vaush saying the same thing in an arguably worst context. 😂
I thought it was finally starting/here lol
Destiny, your voice is perfect for audio books. Truly.
Aw sweet. A recap episode
As a non native english speaker i get brain cancer from trying to follow the 50 different chains of argumentation on double speed😅
Vaush reminds me of the dude in high school who did magic tricks and preyed on the "unremarkable" girls to feel like he was a player lol the part where he said "do you know who you're talking to" was so cringe, as if people are supposed to be aware of his sexual activity outside of being a creepy sex pest on discord
The only time the "do you know who I am?" Shtick is acceptable is when you're making fun of people who unironically use the "do you know who I am" schtick.
Exactly this.
23:08 I died when I saw the ban with the FBI reference number xD
didnt expect him to react to this
tactically you should continue to be charitable towards Vaush because it just makes you look better
Hard agree
Optics matters even if Destiny disagrees. Normies are optics losers and can't consume hyper edgy takes.
The problem is vaush’s audience is conditioned not to care about any of this, it’s either “old” or “out of context “ I remember he played the trans rant on his stream and blamed it on being edgy and Destiny, he basically said that that’s why he was using subhuman
bro the destiny vs vaush posture clip kills me every time
August, thanks for catching my safe phrase at 36:46 that cut was nice.
Honestly, for the longest time, I thought he was previously poor, had experienced the hardships of it and is like he is cause he never wants to go back. He wants to amass as much wealth as possible by whatever means necessary to not be hurt again. I can kinda if not respect it, at least see where that drive is coming from.
But no, apparently he was born wealthy and has a degree in sociology?!? So this is just coming from pure gluttony!?
Yyyyyyyep.
Vaush has motivated me to do a manifesto. I wonder what I should put. 🤔
I thought he'd finally finished his new manifesto! What is the hold up?
Based Irish Laddie (vs Doe), is literally today's Destiny with insane lefties attacking him. It kinda bothers me that Destiny doesn't acknowledge this and seemingly stands against him on this point (despite his recent situation).
20:00 This clip is only optically bad. After being in a few of these kinds of communities myself, he's 100% right about this. These communities are super fucked up and rife with various combinations of mental illnesses to the point that everyone is walking on eggshells and if you say anything against the orthodoxy even slightly, the entire community swoops in to (metaphorically) knock you over and take turns kicking the shit out of you until you leave.
Calling marginalized people "sub-human" and talking about how they need to be purged, just for the shock value so you can later go "I was talking about online guys, not real life" is still kinda scummy. He chose words invoking genocide intentionally just for the attention.
But he thought it was OK to go after J K Rowling for saying something incredibly mild about trans stuff.
This is his only good take
this isnt THE manifesto though right?
Yeah he’s planning on making one himself according to the description for this video
Nvm I seriously thought I read it in the description but I think I’m just tired af lmao. He did put in links to a notepad though so I think we can reasonably expect him to make his own.
Penned by Marx himself
Watching this at 3pm.
31:00 Was August on r/Place when he screenrecorded this video?😂
Vaush is like a side villain no one takes seriously it’s so sad how serious he takes himself 💀
I'm gonna be hearing the birds by the time I'm done with this video
Watch on 2x speed
Bro don't get me started on the birds
The fan I used for white noise broke after several consecutive months of service, so if I'm up past 5 it's all over
Never hated nature like that in my life! 😤
10:15 that was me holding in the cringe .. thanks for articulating it so well Destiny
Well I guess I’ll eagerly wait for your manifesto on Vaush.
20:00 I'm pretty sure this is a line Vaush is still walking, especially after the JK Rowling thing. What's damning is more of the contrast between this and the very next clip. However, he can play defense for this by saying that the older clip is from before a LOT of other conversations he's had, but he couldn't do that if the clip was from a more recent video where he's said similar things about the very same people within this past month.
I think the real difference between then and now is that he discovered he was more correct than he was comfortable with, so he treats the mental health of terminally-online leftists with the empathy & delicacy that mental health actually deserves.
My biggest problem with vaush is that he's a raging and open misogynist... Though most of these comments say they only stopped being fans when he failed to be a good enough debate bro 🙄
Why did you put in a r/place sound at 31:02?? Got very confused for a second
does anyone know what that song is at 52 minutes?
You just earned my sub, Destiny. I've always thought you were the greatest debater in your circle of friends, but never supported you because of your meta grouping. Seeing you reflect on yourself tells me you can step outside of it, people like vaush will never be able to.
what reflection? like what reflection did you see recently that made you sub.
@@mysticflow467 At one point in this video he says something like I was running so much defense for vaush, which might seem like an innocuous comment but it tells me he was critiquing himself. I respect the man who is willing to look like the fool for his beliefs (or in this case, recognize his foolishness) more than the man who needs to appear flawless all the time. The fool seeks for growth and change, the ruler seeks stagnation.
@@vgfan4ever this... out of all things is what got you to sub interesting interesting, destiny has changed his thoughts/positions many times to the better positions and reflects a lot
@@mysticflow467 For sure, that's definitely one of the things that makes him arguably one of the better debaters on TH-cam. One thing I've always noticed about Destiny is that he doesn't bullshit around theoreticals to find a morsel of truth to sell you as a 5 course meal, nor does he have a nice fireside lounge chat where they sell a lot of t-shirts. His debates were always the rawest, most pugilistic debates around lol. But that's how you make steel, you have to temper the iron.
@Oswald Cobblepot vaush is extremely unintelligent and all of his debates are "I dunno, can't attest to that, how dare you not attest to the faults of capitalism". He's actually not even rotely intelligent, just very deceptive.
how come destiny has runelite on the taskbar, does he play osrs?
People should stop using words like "grooming" And "pedophilia" when most of the time it's neither
@@spookychest9210 dont trigger me. You wont like me when I'm triggered
It’s weird when someone is being called transphobic when they’ve defended real trans people because they disagree on trans women in sports and xenopronouns. Destiny is certainly spicy but his positions are based. I want someone to make a video on destiny and his “far right” community with proof.
Anything right of extreme leftism is “far right” to these people.
Equivalent of "i have a black friend"
@@Tocinos would actual racist have black friends?
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Not really. It’s more like “you have lied consistently about me and you have no grounds to stand on.”
Okay, I’m going to make a serious point here. I think Vaush’s argument that the ends justify the means if the people get to the right position is incredibly damaging to every angle of the conversation. For one, it’s just wishful thinking. I’m his ideal view, even though you arrived at a “correct” conclusion through misinformation, you will eventually find the facts and arguments to back up that position legitimately. Except that is completely counter-intuitive. Why would anyone continue to challenge their own belief if they already think they have the correct foundation for it? It’s equivalent to telling someone to steal someone’s answer on a math problem while not knowing how to do the work and then hoping they reverse engineer the solution to create the justification. Why would anyone do that? Most people don’t operate that way and the only sure way to get them to actually find a support for their position is to challenge them on their beliefs. Not only are people extremely resistant to changing their beliefs, people like Vaush actively support the existence of an environment where those who disagree and challenge your opinions should not have a platform or at least are not legitimate good faith actors.
And let’s not beat around the bush, I don’t think Vaush supports deplatforming on a mass scale because his content relies on having arguments with people who he thinks are wrong, but his tactics are no less toxic as he basically vilifies and delegitimizes anyone who doesn’t agree with him. There’s no such thing as a legitimate opposing view for people like Vaush, you’re either with him or you’re not a legitimate actor.
Not only that, but for people who actually have reasoned takes, those takes are now attacked based on the misinformation used to legitimize them. Take for example the dumbass talking point that women get less cents on the dollar than men for the same job, even Obamna fell victim to this talking point. It’s just not true and idiots will defend this point without even understanding it. You can acknowledge the pay and wealth inequality between men and women by looking at legitimate social and workplace factors, but nowhere in the country will you find a man and woman doing the same job at a company where a man is making more than the woman literally per dollar. Yet this talking point is uttered like it’s truth and now every time you have conversations about this topic you have to spend time addressing how fucking stupid that is.
How can people legitimately listen to Vaush speak for more than 2 minutes? The condescension dripping from his voice really hits my ears in a bad way.
One thing about his argument with Lance where he's wrong is the security of names on badges. He points out that there's chips that let you swipe in, the secure part of that is the chip not the name. I work at a company like this, trans employees can get their internal names changed without legal change, doesn't affect the security there. If there was a situation where there's government work or someone needs to constantly validate your state identity sure but that's not what they were arguing about
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