I've been a tree climber for over 20 years I've got to hand it to you that was a great piece of work way to go young man you make all us old schoolers proud keep up the good work and don't do nothing stupid or take chances and please stay safe thanks for the video until next time
Fantastic video. Loved seeing start to finish. Really appreciate seeing your movement throughout the tree, often times that's cut out for the more "interesting" content. Stay safe
great job brother! huge risk in that tree. doing trees like this gives testament to either our stupidity or bravery. depends on who you talk to. nice job and stay safe
Nice work. I personally dont trust popular so would have only dont that with a crane and lift. Good clean work though! One suggestion I have is to spread your work positioning lanyard and choked climbing line apart. If they are in the exact same position like that and you cut one, chances are you will cut both. You are obviously super comfortable on spikes so just choke your climb line like 1.5' lower. Keep up the solid work!
That was sketchy Pat! I'd say it was borderline whether you'd climb it or not. I'm assuming there was no access for a hoist and no extra money for a crane. One thing i'd advise is to seperate your lanyard fron your climbing line when topping and blocking down. The climbing line should be level with your knees and the lanyard level with your hips. You have balls of steel Pat, 👍 🇨🇦 🇮🇪
That puts the pro in professional. I have those poplar trees like that. They lean & they fork with all the weight where it shouldn't be. But they pale in comparison to the huge choke 🍒 trees we have in our area. I strapped one of these to a solid oak in March. Went back in June to do the job. 30 feet off the ground I was double tied in as high up as I could go. The top was actually like a branch parallel to the ground so I had to top a larger section than I like to. The port-a-wrap with 2 large rings helped but when I cut the backside & it let loose in shook 2 times away & back hard. The rest was easy & the leaning part which was larger than the straight part is gone. The base is 42" in circumference & should handle the tree which can't grow much more.
When you are on a really slick spar like that, and you want to tie a safety line above you on it, what do you find the best method to ensure the line doesn't slide on the slippery spar? (I noticed you had a rope tied around it at one point and what appeared to be a blake's hitch on the rope itself?)
I think this is definitely one of your newest and best videos of all time by the way the great news for the single line climbers is that the device is in manufacturing progress.. Along with the new devices I have created will come a whole different ball game of the bigger muscles of the body to lower the injury rate on the statistically High injury rate of shoulder injuries of tree climbers
Wow, good dry firewood. My heart was pounding, I did not think you were going up that far. I'd have tight lined it and pulled it over hoping I could avoid fixing the neighbors fence. Some times those dry trees get that dry rot where it's hard solid but that checker pattern where the structure is lost. Good to have a 2nd safety line to an adjacent tree incase she cracks at the trunk. Good job. Don't push it buddy, we need you. Thanks for a great video..
When you are climbing and felling trees from the top, do you always use the rigging system where you throw a support line over a branch above you in addition to a flip line or two? Pardon my ignorance on the terminology.
Balls of steel man. I be the first one to tell you that climb is for the birds. Would try to do all the other options available. Great job like always !
excellent work....its not always easy to keep your composure and make the best decisions in trees like that....but you were calm and clear headed ...great video
Hobby arborist here -- thank you for the video. I removed a dead Ash tree recently via aerial lift because I didn't feel it was safe to climb due to my inexperience. After felling the stem, the thru-section appeared solid. How does one know to climb vs using a lift? Any recommended advice or resources are appreciated.
when you advance your climbing line, it's hard to tell on the video but it appears that you are using a running bowline with a figure eight or maybe some other series of hitches. Can you tell me further what kind of night you were trying to advance or climbing line?
I definitely give you credit on that climb. People who aren't experienced in climbing "dead ass" trees might not see how dicey that on was, but you played it pretty cool.
EducatedClimber - As far as what you mentioned, about rotten wood on the outside... totally agree...and not only from the standpoint of overall structural integrity - but also the practical aspect....it is neither easy, nor safe, when you have 6" deep of fluff on the outside of, say, a 44" Oak, for the first 45' up.... Zero purchase for the spikes....just like climbing a snow-covered cliff
Noticed you used Siberian timber hitch for life support. Curious if you do this often and trust it. New to the sport and wanted to use it because it’s so easy but haven’t seen anyone do it yet
I really can't wait till I can get a job cuz I'm a great climber with a sense of adventure but sadly I still have to go to school for stuff I'm never gonna use
Nice work. I gotta ask, how come you don’t tie around the main stem? I saw you did a few crotches up but on a few of them you didn’t. Is that harder with SRT? I’m a year into climbing and loving it but not being around the main stem bugs me out. Thanks pat
2:16 Can you explain to me that knot in a video? I think this could be very useful in getting down from palms and trees and untying from the ground, would love to learn it.
Nice job. You may have explained it in early videos, but can you tell me what your lanyard set up is? It looks like there’s something extra going on there. Is it wire core or regular rope?
I am using a HitchHiker X as my lanyard adjuster, makes it full swivel and means I can climb SRT with my lanyard if I need to... thanks for watching! - Patrick
@@TreeMuggs_PatrickM If you put Cottonwood or Poplar into a Spanish language translator they both pop out "Alamo." Just some useless knowledge from my college days!
Patrick, would you please explain your reasons for having your lanyard attached to your lower smaller "d" rings vs. your bigger upper "D" rings? thanks!
The lower D`s are proper suspension points, meaning that you can hang from them comfortably, same as your bridge point. They are connected much lower to your hips which is usually more comfortable in most working positions. The upper D`s are really more of a throwback to old-school lineman`s belts. Try your lanyard on just the lower D`s next time you climb, I bet you`ll like it... - Patrick
I was curious about this too. I have no idea what the knot is called, but I went through the video frame by frame studying it, and now I finally know how to tie it :)
I’ve done a few trees in that state. I always am scared at first, but go in with confidence and work my plan deliberately. After it’s done I always wonder how many times I can go up dead trees like that and get away with it. I’ve always heard the old school arb guys saying “if the tree holds itself, it’ll hold you”. But when is that extra 200 lbs moving around up in the tree going to be the tipping point. I hope I never find it. Great work btw!💪
Great job! What are you using for saw storage on your saddle? Transporter? Couldn't catch what it was. Do you like the bird on your Runner? Been thinking about getting one for mine.
So much about this video made me smile! “Does it look as wobbly as it feels” “sigh” “that’s what she said” 😆😆😆 nice work being steady and I like all the techniques to limit forces on that sketchy ol bugger! Be well Patrick
Nope nothing like it ... it's so much better and you asking made me look to see what it was and hes the only other guy I've ever seen use it ... I replaced my running bowling with it the purpose of the knot is for easy easy removal exp. Under logs for rigging.. pull the tail and yank and shes done.... dont know what it's called tho
that's the Daisy Chain knot, you can find a video of it on my channel in the knots section, I use it in place of the running bow... thanks for watching! - Patrick
I whistle a bit when I'm in an uncomfortable tree, too. What were your driving factors for climbing in that dead tree? What is that chain knot you were using? That was some good flat landing logs you had there.
@@TreeMuggs_PatrickM Thanks; I found that video. It looks to be an interesting knot that I never heard of. I'll give it a try on my next tree and surprise my ground guy. Is it mostly for smaller wood, or can a person rig down a big chunk or do negative rigging with it? If I'm not mistaken, I also saw you use the daisy chain hitch with your climbing lines?
For all our education would you give us a rough estimate, if the job consisted of just that tree, how much would you have charged to remove it as you did? Thanks
I have no idea what it was priced at. I was subcontracting. It was a no clean-up job, super sketchbag. I hope he got $1500, but I really don't know man.... thanks for watching! - Patrick
Nice work. I'm not sure I would have went up in it. Did the trunk snap when it hit the ground? I dropped two dead elms this weekend in the pasture that just exploded when they hit, makes ya realize what shock load could do to ya!
I've never seen a Tulip Poplar in Georgia still standing without any bark.They rot and fall over long before they lose all their bark.Is that a different variety of Poplar? Scary tree regardless of variety! Nice Work
"Sap rot is much worse than heart rot. So if your spikes are digging into mush, that's bad." Well, for the climber its worse, but sap rot isn't as structurally damaging as heart rot - meaning you can worry less about the tree falling over while you're in it, all the while worry more about sliding down the stem...... ;) :P hahaha just dealt with some nasty hemlock sap rot, and i almost split my bicep open on a branch after sliding 4 feet due to spongy sapwood.
I've been a tree climber for over 20 years I've got to hand it to you that was a great piece of work way to go young man you make all us old schoolers proud keep up the good work and don't do nothing stupid or take chances and please stay safe thanks for the video until next time
Nice work Mr. very nice
Nice work Patrick 💪. I don't think i could have climbed that one. My comfort level in dead popular is on the low side. Much respect.
Nothing quite like a sketchy climb to make you hug your loved ones when you get home after work. Nice job!
Fantastic video. Loved seeing start to finish. Really appreciate seeing your movement throughout the tree, often times that's cut out for the more "interesting" content. Stay safe
thanks man!
great job brother! huge risk in that tree. doing trees like this gives testament to either our stupidity or bravery. depends on who you talk to. nice job and stay safe
And here I am, worried about climbing very much alive trees 🤣
I started a tree service, this video proves the danger. Great job. 😊
I love the zip line. Nice. In the back ground the children at school. Haha
Nice work. I personally dont trust popular so would have only dont that with a crane and lift. Good clean work though! One suggestion I have is to spread your work positioning lanyard and choked climbing line apart. If they are in the exact same position like that and you cut one, chances are you will cut both. You are obviously super comfortable on spikes so just choke your climb line like 1.5' lower. Keep up the solid work!
That was sketchy Pat! I'd say it was borderline whether you'd climb it or not. I'm assuming there was no access for a hoist and no extra money for a crane. One thing i'd advise is to seperate your lanyard fron your climbing line when topping and blocking down. The climbing line should be level with your knees and the lanyard level with your hips. You have balls of steel Pat, 👍 🇨🇦 🇮🇪
Good tips brother... - Patrick
That was very valuable information he will probably appreciate the advice
Please remember climbers keep two hands on chain saw
nicely done EC - super video - great job
“What is this concoction here?” 😂😂 said similar to many groundies in my time. Great job.
I felt nervous just watching the video. Nicely done. Good work out there. 👍🏼🇨🇦
Always such a feeling of relief when you finally get back down to just the spar to drop. Good work, Patrick!
thanks brother! - Patrick
Good job! Thanks for posting the full removal!
thanks for watching! - Patrick
Bro you're a beast...well done. Thanks for taking the time to make the video.
That puts the pro in professional. I have those poplar trees like that. They lean & they fork with all the weight where it shouldn't be. But they pale in comparison to the huge choke 🍒 trees we have in our area. I strapped one of these to a solid oak in March. Went back in June to do the job. 30 feet off the ground I was double tied in as high up as I could go. The top was actually like a branch parallel to the ground so I had to top a larger section than I like to. The port-a-wrap with 2 large rings helped but when I cut the backside & it let loose in shook 2 times away & back hard. The rest was easy & the leaning part which was larger than the straight part is gone. The base is 42" in circumference & should handle the tree which can't grow much more.
When you are on a really slick spar like that, and you want to tie a safety line above you on it, what do you find the best method to ensure the line doesn't slide on the slippery spar? (I noticed you had a rope tied around it at one point and what appeared to be a blake's hitch on the rope itself?)
I am so happy to have seen that daisy chain technique instead of a bowlin, I use it all the time now, I appreciate it and keep up the great work bro
its the coolest, i got it from him as well
Awesome work! So appreciate your teaching, especially for a newbie like me.
Great job...curious what kind of knot are tying in the multi colored rope
Ohh boy i was shivverin for you up there brother that was crispy like McDonalds fries.
There's dead ,dieing,and standing dead ..but that's petrified. 😂
Nice job! Enjoy your videos.
I think this is definitely one of your newest and best videos of all time by the way the great news for the single line climbers is that the device is in manufacturing progress..
Along with the new devices I have created will come a whole different ball game of the bigger muscles of the body to lower the injury rate on the statistically High injury rate of shoulder injuries of tree climbers
I’ve never seen anyone tie knots like you do, very fast and smooth! Great work.
Thanks brother - Patrick
Wow, good dry firewood. My heart was pounding, I did not think you were going up that far. I'd have tight lined it and pulled it over hoping I could avoid fixing the neighbors fence. Some times those dry trees get that dry rot where it's hard solid but that checker pattern where the structure is lost. Good to have a 2nd safety line to an adjacent tree incase she cracks at the trunk. Good job. Don't push it buddy, we need you.
Thanks for a great video..
When you are climbing and felling trees from the top, do you always use the rigging system where you throw a support line over a branch above you in addition to a flip line or two? Pardon my ignorance on the terminology.
Good job Patrick. I like the bleached out bones looking cottonwoods. I have one coming up..
thanks brother, look forward to seeing that 🙏
Those days where you ask yourself “ what the f&$! am I doing” . Good job man
thanks brother - Patrick
I really admire you guys for your skills..
Great job
Awesome takedown with a dangerous looking tree...
Great work man! Thanks for the video, I’m picking up a lot of techniques watching your channel!
Balls of steel man. I be the first one to tell you that climb is for the birds. Would try to do all the other options available. Great job like always !
Good job with the speed line.SRT sure helps out alot as well.
You got balls man! That's one of those trees I'd say, 5k. Just for hopes they didnt want it done, lol.
Hi, what kind of knot are you tiing at 4:04? ThX
Good job...i have a tendency to rush jobs like that..😂cant wait to get back down..👍
excellent work....its not always easy to keep your composure and make the best decisions in trees like that....but you were calm and clear headed ...great video
thanks, appreciate it - Patrick
Hobby arborist here -- thank you for the video. I removed a dead Ash tree recently via aerial lift because I didn't feel it was safe to climb due to my inexperience. After felling the stem, the thru-section appeared solid. How does one know to climb vs using a lift? Any recommended advice or resources are appreciated.
Much skill and nerves of steel. That is something above my pay grade.
excellent jerry would be proud ! of the way ya layed em ..
thanks Joe! - Patrick
Nice work fella 👍
Learning a lot from your channel! Good job, thank you
What's the knot you are using to choke off your climbing line to the stem? Looks like a modified daisy chain with something on the end.
Daisy Chain hitch, it's on my channel, under knots
Great job! I did a dead pop similar to this last week. This video made me nervous all over again 😅
Yup, that was SCARY! Fine work
thanks brother, holding my breath there for a while.......
Rightfully so! Respect to you, sir
when you advance your climbing line, it's hard to tell on the video but it appears that you are using a running bowline with a figure eight or maybe some other series of hitches. Can you tell me further what kind of night you were trying to advance or climbing line?
I definitely give you credit on that climb. People who aren't experienced in climbing "dead ass" trees might not see how dicey that on was, but you played it pretty cool.
thanks brother, appreciate it - Patrick
EducatedClimber - As far as what you mentioned, about rotten wood on the outside... totally agree...and not only from the standpoint of overall structural integrity - but also the practical aspect....it is neither easy, nor safe, when you have 6" deep of fluff on the outside of, say, a 44" Oak, for the first 45' up.... Zero purchase for the spikes....just like climbing a snow-covered cliff
What kind of knot are you using on your lifeline to advance? Some kind of daisy chain?? Thanks for any info!
Daisy Chain Hitch, there's a video on my channel... - Patrick
Awesome im glad i came across you! I like your style of work. I will look for the video also. Thanks for the info!
Noticed you used Siberian timber hitch for life support. Curious if you do this often and trust it. New to the sport and wanted to use it because it’s so easy but haven’t seen anyone do it yet
I use it for life support. Not recommended or approved by anyone, but it's bomber. - Patrick
I could tell by your breathing, your brain was on overload! Great work!!
yessir, indeed it was.... thanks for watching.... - Patrick
NICE PAT.
You're so good
I really can't wait till I can get a job cuz I'm a great climber with a sense of adventure but sadly I still have to go to school for stuff I'm never gonna use
I got to say, the daisy chain anchor scares me. My head says that it fine, but my nerves say no way.
Lol glad im not the only one sketched out by that😅
If you didn't have that drop zone, would you have still bid on the job?
Nice work. I gotta ask, how come you don’t tie around the main stem? I saw you did a few crotches up but on a few of them you didn’t. Is that harder with SRT? I’m a year into climbing and loving it but not being around the main stem bugs me out. Thanks pat
Great video brother
Much appreciated... - Patrick
nice job
Nice job
I find myself singing little nervous songs and whistling when i get in the canopy. I'm still to new to climbing to attempt getting in a dead tree.
Some great firewood
2:16 Can you explain to me that knot in a video? I think this could be very useful in getting down from palms and trees and untying from the ground, would love to learn it.
Tree Time Wow, I haven’t ever seen someone do that. It’s just a simple daisy chain. Quick, and just unties with one hand. Brilliant 👍
Rookies !!!
Nice 👍
Nice job👍
At 10:53 you cut a limb and the rings inside looked like a cinnamon roll. Any thoughts on why it had such pronounced rings?
Just the way it discolors after being dead for so long I suppose... thanks for watching!.... - Patrick
Nice job. You may have explained it in early videos, but can you tell me what your lanyard set up is? It looks like there’s something extra going on there. Is it wire core or regular rope?
I am using a HitchHiker X as my lanyard adjuster, makes it full swivel and means I can climb SRT with my lanyard if I need to... thanks for watching! - Patrick
EducatedClimber, gotcha. Thanks.
Amazing work young man ! I would have been at full pucker that whole job be eazy climbing with those big ole ballz
What's a payday for a tree like that?
For me? Peanuts........... 😢😘
Almost looked like a sycamore, but regardless it was gnarly😉👍
Nice job!
STAY SAFE
it was technically a cottonwood, I just call all of them 'poplars'. She was nasty indeed. Thanks brother. - Patrick
@@TreeMuggs_PatrickM If you put Cottonwood or Poplar into a Spanish language translator they both pop out "Alamo." Just some useless knowledge from my college days!
I get nervous towards the top of a tree even when it's a healthy one. Good job!
Patrick, would you please explain your reasons for having your lanyard attached to your lower smaller "d" rings vs. your bigger upper "D" rings? thanks!
The lower D`s are proper suspension points, meaning that you can hang from them comfortably, same as your bridge point. They are connected much lower to your hips which is usually more comfortable in most working positions. The upper D`s are really more of a throwback to old-school lineman`s belts. Try your lanyard on just the lower D`s next time you climb, I bet you`ll like it... - Patrick
@@TreeMuggs_PatrickM Thanks a lot, Patrick! ....and for such a thorough explanation! ... I will try it!
what was the knott at 13:30?
thanks brother, stay safe out there.
I was curious about this too. I have no idea what the knot is called, but I went through the video frame by frame studying it, and now I finally know how to tie it :)
I’ve done a few trees in that state. I always am scared at first, but go in with confidence and work my plan deliberately. After it’s done I always wonder how many times I can go up dead trees like that and get away with it. I’ve always heard the old school arb guys saying “if the tree holds itself, it’ll hold you”. But when is that extra 200 lbs moving around up in the tree going to be the tipping point. I hope I never find it. Great work btw!💪
Amen to that brother, gotta follow your gut......... - Patrick
Smooth
Great job! What are you using for saw storage on your saddle? Transporter? Couldn't catch what it was. Do you like the bird on your Runner? Been thinking about getting one for mine.
Yessir, Transporter on my saddle. Birdflap on my Rope Runner has been a game changer.....
@@TreeMuggs_PatrickM That's my next 2 upgrades. Thanks.
When I do dead trees I usually go right to the top 1st thing to get the scared out of me.
So much about this video made me smile! “Does it look as wobbly as it feels” “sigh” “that’s what she said” 😆😆😆 nice work being steady and I like all the techniques to limit forces on that sketchy ol bugger! Be well Patrick
Thanks Rob, appreciate it! Fist bump... - Patrick
What knot is that for the single line tie in? Is it a running bowline with some extra fancy half hitches???
Nope nothing like it ... it's so much better and you asking made me look to see what it was and hes the only other guy I've ever seen use it ... I replaced my running bowling with it the purpose of the knot is for easy easy removal exp. Under logs for rigging.. pull the tail and yank and shes done.... dont know what it's called tho
Probably shouldn't have said nothing like it they both run the line but tied completely differently.. sweet knot if not my favorite.
that's the Daisy Chain knot, you can find a video of it on my channel in the knots section, I use it in place of the running bow... thanks for watching! - Patrick
I whistle a bit when I'm in an uncomfortable tree, too. What were your driving factors for climbing in that dead tree? What is that chain knot you were using? That was some good flat landing logs you had there.
Daisy chain hitch, there's a video of it on my channel...
@@TreeMuggs_PatrickM Thanks; I found that video. It looks to be an interesting knot that I never heard of. I'll give it a try on my next tree and surprise my ground guy. Is it mostly for smaller wood, or can a person rig down a big chunk or do negative rigging with it? If I'm not mistaken, I also saw you use the daisy chain hitch with your climbing lines?
I use it for everything, negative rigging, big stuff, everything....
For all our education would you give us a rough estimate, if the job consisted of just that tree, how much would you have charged to remove it as you did? Thanks
I have no idea what it was priced at. I was subcontracting. It was a no clean-up job, super sketchbag. I hope he got $1500, but I really don't know man.... thanks for watching! - Patrick
What is the knot at 13:31? It looks to be a "slippery" variant but I can't nail it down.
That's what I call the Daisy Chain hitch, there's a video of it here: th-cam.com/video/7P5MSSrBOTU/w-d-xo.html
- Patrick
Nice work. I'm not sure I would have went up in it. Did the trunk snap when it hit the ground? I dropped two dead elms this weekend in the pasture that just exploded when they hit, makes ya realize what shock load could do to ya!
the trunk didn't snap when it hit the ground, but the middle was punky... - Patrick
Nice.😆
love when people play the ol' "i woke up one day and it was dead" trick
Excellent work . Was that a 390 you was running up there . That you made look small .
575XP
bro cheers poplars are nasty" had a spot there to much! utherwise have have to hang it" haha need a good groundy for that"
Good job buddy I see you got the monkey beaver belt best belt ever made for tree climbing
Good job.
May I ask you a question? Is the "Daisy Chain Knot " strong enough for canopy anchor? Pls.
I whistle when I get nervous to. lol...
What size MB you wear?
Medium
Honestly mate it's green in the summer! I heard that a lot. I'm with you lol bullshit
Mmm hmmm..... sure it was ma'am..... lol - Patrick
I've never seen a Tulip Poplar in Georgia still standing without any bark.They rot and fall over long before they lose all their bark.Is that a different variety of Poplar? Scary tree regardless of variety! Nice Work
this was a dead Cottonwood, I just lump all the different poplars together. Thanks for watching! - Patrick
EducatedClimber - Yeah, I was gonna say....that was no Tulip Poplar...but you beat me to it, Lol...
rekon fullas on the ground did a great job!
i know just thought fell it out earlier was space? looked like
"Sap rot is much worse than heart rot. So if your spikes are digging into mush, that's bad."
Well, for the climber its worse, but sap rot isn't as structurally damaging as heart rot - meaning you can worry less about the tree falling over while you're in it, all the while worry more about sliding down the stem...... ;) :P hahaha just dealt with some nasty hemlock sap rot, and i almost split my bicep open on a branch after sliding 4 feet due to spongy sapwood.