(2/2) Karate Japan vs Italy. Final Female Team Kata. WKF World Karate Championships 2012

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  • @mata892
    @mata892 9 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    These 3 Italian girls are talented. Congratulations to win the second prize. I hope they will keep practicing KaTa.
    To learn the authentic Karate, it is important to focus on not just athleticism of Karate but also the spirit of Karate, Japan should send more good mentors (not coaches or instructors) to other countries. Like those 3 Italian girls are deserved to learn it from the best Karate master. (from Japan)

    • @Giovanni_Gabrielli
      @Giovanni_Gabrielli 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Ma Ta I agree. Being an italian karateka myself, I find a lack of Japanese masters here concerning not only Karate but all Budo. The strange thing is that we used to have some of the best Japanese masters in the past, 30/40 years ago. I would like to tell this story that occurred here in Italy. There was a great Dojo in Rome named "Fiamma Yamato", where my uncle was taught in Kendo and Iaido by Hideo Kobayashi Sensei. There were only Japanese masters in that Dojo. Kobayashi, whom only had 11 students by his own choice, was the best master one could ever hope to have. Unfortunately he committed seppuku here in Rome at the age of 50, in the 80's. He left 11 Haiku, one for each student he had. He was, and is, considered a true unequaled master. One on a million. He left his own Shinai to my uncle and now I have the honor to preserve it myself. I have been very lucky to study Iaido and Kendo with my uncle, being him student of Kobayashi, and to preserve his very own Shinai. Even though I am a former Karateka, I rarely heard of Japanese masters here now, and met only a couple who live and teach in Rome. Plus, I have no respect for Italian institutions and associations that regulate Karate in my country. They tear and shred the very meaning of Budo for sporting and senseless purpose, and rank master people who shoud not teach. I was member of those associations until kuro obi shodan, then read so many books by Japanese ancient masters of Budo and Zen to understand that when you have no true master, you have to be your master yourself, and find strenght in past ages. I forced to make Tsunetomo Yamamoto teach me through Hagakure, or Miyamoto Musashi through Gorin no Sho, or Takuan Soho and so on. I achieved nidan with a good italian master and now studying for sandan, though I won't ever again subscribe to an association to award me with a card telling me what I achieved in my life. I hope I did not bother or upset anyone with my super long comment, I just desire Budo to be considered and respected here in Italy as in any other place in the world for such the sublime thing it is. And for all the people that died for it, since it was born.

  • @80sSoFar
    @80sSoFar 10 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Better Italy or Japan?
    Both, guys, both!
    It's a final and it doesn't matter who is the winner: there are two teams over the rest of the world.
    They ALL are the best.
    That's it!

  • @Rondadoreronda
    @Rondadoreronda 10 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Italian fighters are so cute and cool! ^^
    Japanese are so powerful and speedy!

    • @yugmalimbu166
      @yugmalimbu166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Japanese is also kinda cute and italian is also speedy and powerful ^^

    • @user-ku3rw4jj1u
      @user-ku3rw4jj1u 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Japanese team spirit's were good...they support each other...なんてすごいんだ

  • @MartinK303
    @MartinK303 7 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    You ask me, the Japanese won this. Their Kata was more energetic and precise, and their fighting much more believeable

    • @claus1225
      @claus1225 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Should they actually fight? So this is a show?

    • @erwindale9570
      @erwindale9570 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Everyone can do as long as u can appreciate what is being done u reading? Ok

    • @Alexandre-mk9qo
      @Alexandre-mk9qo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Magnifique

    • @shradhanjalimohanty303
      @shradhanjalimohanty303 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes

  • @DraHar1983
    @DraHar1983 10 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Hmmm, there's not comparison, those japanese girls were simply excellent: energy, speed, though, execution and the bunkai was superb. No offense for the italian team, for i'm italian too.

  • @Georgia.O
    @Georgia.O ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Such a close call I bet!! What astonishing performances, kicks were out of this world! Especially the jump spin followed by the sweep! 6:03

  • @AntonioMontanaC
    @AntonioMontanaC 10 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    My 2 cent, Italy had more complex forms; Japanese execution was flawless however, considerably more explosive too.
    Deserved

  • @giorgiociaravolol1998
    @giorgiociaravolol1998 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    man so proud to do karate and be italian...awesome achieve! Bests in europe!

  • @crack61616
    @crack61616 9 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    japan wins....but italy was good also.....

  • @maritzalagosgriffith9207
    @maritzalagosgriffith9207 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Bellos recuerdos de mi paso por el Karate ,sus Katas y mis queridos Maestros Patricio y Pedro.Gracias por todo este camino ,que de alguna forma me abrió las puertas del camino espiritual.
    Mayor logro ,cinturón Verde

  • @bobgeorge7403
    @bobgeorge7403 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Yes, Japan won, and they deserved to. But this demonstration was excellent, and the team should be proud! This shows why you must be world class to even be in this competition.

  • @jesusrivera2927
    @jesusrivera2927 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    WOOWW!!!
    EXELENT
    Saludos desde México 🇲🇽

  • @Jazgamergirl1officialWebsite
    @Jazgamergirl1officialWebsite 10 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    the Japanese show real fighting towards the other female on their team but Italy didn't show tht much energy punches...I guess the judges were looking for something tht shows they have a strong energy and impressive good form :3 in my calculations

    • @nmitchxll305
      @nmitchxll305 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jaz_gamergirl1 ermm... the ‘fighting’ as you called it is actually Bunkai, which is using the kata to fight and is 100% choreographed.

  • @hounoNotenshi04
    @hounoNotenshi04 10 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    For me, a good bunkai should have all three perform the kata part. Not just one person doing defense, it should have rotation like what the Japan team did. Kudos to both teams! Well done.

    • @nmitchxll305
      @nmitchxll305 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      hounoNotenshi04 original Bunkai has one defender.

    • @orlandobloom5220
      @orlandobloom5220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hounoNotenshi04 I agree! In fact, I believe that's what lost the Italy men's team their final against Japan. The bunkai concentration was solely on Luca Valdesi, so it felt like an action movie more than impressive honestly.

    • @orlandobloom5220
      @orlandobloom5220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noah Mitchell really? Tell me more about it please, I didn't know that

  • @user-ur1gt7bq1r
    @user-ur1gt7bq1r 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    何回観ても素晴らしい!!

  • @toqtoq9094
    @toqtoq9094 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The waiting posture of the Japanese team is wonderful.

  • @RobyDeMarziChannel
    @RobyDeMarziChannel 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Il Team giapponese è stato fortissimo nel 2012. L'Italia ha fatto anche un'ottima esecuzione ma il Giappone ha vinto poichè il bunkai era molto più spettacolare e grintoso. Sempre bravissime le ragazze Italiane! Adoro Sara Bottaro! E quest'anno hanno avuto un bronzo meritatissimo!

  • @narenderkumar9317
    @narenderkumar9317 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    both of them are fantastic

  • @CLEVEMAN691
    @CLEVEMAN691 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    After watching this i need a Big Mac from McDonalds

  • @user-ku3rw4jj1u
    @user-ku3rw4jj1u 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As you can also see..no one can defeat Japan ,か”んは”つてね...🎌🇯🇵

  • @nicgame5068
    @nicgame5068 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    *Eu fasso karatê é isso me motiva muito !!!*

  • @pfarquharson1
    @pfarquharson1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic kata demonstration by the Italian ladies.

  • @yomonzz
    @yomonzz 10 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    You just can't skip the japanese spirit!!

  • @jfpbman
    @jfpbman 9 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I WANT THIS SHIT IN THE OLYMPICS!! IT´S AWESOME!! :D :D :D

    • @delvesdg
      @delvesdg 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      jfpbman A million thumbs up.

    • @nacho1950
      @nacho1950 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You got it for 2020

    • @vishakhasingh279
      @vishakhasingh279 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      jfpbman
      well wish granted!
      karate is officially announced as an Olympic sport!
      6 fighters from around the world will compete in kumite
      and
      30 fighters from around the world will compete in kata

    • @user-pe2id6vf5t
      @user-pe2id6vf5t 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      jfpbman пөыүзврфгағъ
      е.🏁🏳🏴🚩

    • @marwanbakry9828
      @marwanbakry9828 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      czn ncmmam n

  • @victormanuelsalazarcruz211
    @victormanuelsalazarcruz211 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    exelentes videos.

  • @leticiacompartilha
    @leticiacompartilha 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am crying. So beautifull and powerfull

  • @joank651
    @joank651 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Ho cominciato a fare karate volevo abbandornarlo ma adesso che ho visto nei loro occhi così tanta forza e volontà voglio continuarlo. Non sono brava ma mi alleneró senz'altro e un giorno mi piacerebbe essere come loro

    • @mattyoresu
      @mattyoresu 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      brava! dai che ce la fai!😄

    • @lonelystar7796
      @lonelystar7796 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      l importante é avere passione, non fare karate per i risultati sportivi, ben si fallo per migliorare te stessa, é questo lo spirito che voleva infondere maestro funakoshi. Osu!

    • @antonioborriello6187
      @antonioborriello6187 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Infatti l'importante non è vincere e arrivare a livelli altissimi, ma migliorare se stessi, e come disse funakoshi gichin, di non fare mai fare altrimenti il Karate sarebbe diventato un arte marziale sportiva, e quindi la filosofia si perdeva tutta del Karate. Osu!

    • @giacomoguarnieri2461
      @giacomoguarnieri2461 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stai ancora continuando a fare Karate? Ti vedremo a Tokyo 2020? :)

    • @lytron_tv
      @lytron_tv ปีที่แล้ว

      Io ho ripreso da poco dopo quasi 13 anni che avevo smesso e sono felice di questa decisione, mi ero fermato alla verde confermata e spero di riuscire a prendere la blu a giugno

  • @rodralig
    @rodralig 10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Kururunfa (久留頓破) (performed by the Japanese Team) is Goju-Ryu (剛柔流); while the Italian Team performed Annan (安南) which is Okinawan Ryuei-Ryu (劉衛流).

    • @camdensullivan5713
      @camdensullivan5713 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate this very much may you be blessed.

  • @NewSD712
    @NewSD712 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing athletes!!! 😃🤎🥋

  • @christineagustin4876
    @christineagustin4876 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job girls keep it up

  • @Faith0929ROK
    @Faith0929ROK 9 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    beautiful and deadly. i applaud all of them. good job girls!

  • @b89oj
    @b89oj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't know much of Karate and I can't say which team performed better. The whole of the final sequence by team Japan made me think of Matrix-the movie whilst the Italian team performed a sequence that I'd say more down-to-earth and plausible of a combat between karatekas. I liked the Italian team better as I got the impression that team Japan put on a great show just to astound the audience rather than recreate a combat sequence that was impressive and at the same time believable.

    • @b89oj
      @b89oj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And one last thing. During the whole performance I kept thinking of the Italian team leader as Rey Palpatine from the last three movies of the Star Wars saga. She looks somewhat similar with her ponytail and fierce look. Give her a lightsaber and we might be looking at a whole different kind of show ahah

  • @ho1105ma
    @ho1105ma 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    素晴らしい。日本とはまだ差があるんだろうけど、イタリアの若い女性が空手をやってくれてる事が素晴らしいしキュンとさせてくれる。

  • @MrKatuhiko3411
    @MrKatuhiko3411 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    すばらしい。演舞がとても興味深く見れました。ありがとう。

  • @remuspierre7573
    @remuspierre7573 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    awesome Technique

  • @edschoenfeld9935
    @edschoenfeld9935 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unlike other things they could have done.Music ,dance,softball, ect .This they will have and use for a life time.They have the tools to be safe.Daughter started at 7 now 18 holds 2nd black.Going to start training in other styles as well. Judo and kickboxing to get more rounded.cograds to thes ladies ,know what you went through to get there.❤

  • @rodrigopalomohugywugyariag9895
    @rodrigopalomohugywugyariag9895 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vamoss❤

  • @elgrasso3117
    @elgrasso3117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love it.

  • @harukisibuya508
    @harukisibuya508 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    super good

  • @DhanrajMeerpet
    @DhanrajMeerpet หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice team kata

  • @lovelysparsh3801
    @lovelysparsh3801 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ❤ nice video ❤

  • @keyboardassasinbloom
    @keyboardassasinbloom 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amaaaaaazingggg❤❤❤❤❤

  • @placesandspaces1660
    @placesandspaces1660 ปีที่แล้ว

    FANTASTIC 👌

  • @johnnyavilestecladista6000
    @johnnyavilestecladista6000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Que estilo de karate es ese, está genial.

  • @marilzacb
    @marilzacb 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Muito bom

  • @RichoArch
    @RichoArch 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    kururunfa is a nice Kata....
    good job.....
    OS

  • @emv1976
    @emv1976 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks from Brazilian Amazon region, oss!

  • @lytron_tv
    @lytron_tv ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastiche

  • @arlinhaapap3265
    @arlinhaapap3265 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ainda bem que eu fui privilegiada em ter feito Karate Kata. Cheguei na faixa preta e hoje tenho 64 anos, mas continuo muito disciplinada e apaixonada por esses vídeos. É uma pena que muitos não teem esse privilégio de fazer alguma arte marcial. Todos deveriam ter esse privilégio na vida...

  • @ewertonrafeldasilvasilva6149
    @ewertonrafeldasilvasilva6149 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Esse karatê de competição é muito teatral , não me agrada , mais respeito quem gosta ... E respeito os atletas que tanto se dedicam ....

  • @user-wi3mq1jw6h
    @user-wi3mq1jw6h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You go!!!

  • @user-sd5bu7ip8c
    @user-sd5bu7ip8c 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good Very good

  • @khanpurartsacademy6950
    @khanpurartsacademy6950 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good

  • @fernandomagnojaravera5839
    @fernandomagnojaravera5839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lindas, con movimientos propios de chinas y japonesas.

  • @aabdo2
    @aabdo2 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Italtian ladies performed very nice Kata and sparring demo. Well done.

    • @RK-lr3sy
      @RK-lr3sy 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Красивая, техничная - шляпа.

  • @amirbgh9757
    @amirbgh9757 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    رائع 😮❤❤❤❤

  • @user-us5mt2gl7i
    @user-us5mt2gl7i 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    És lo kime, és lo mejor 🎉

  • @chiyorimaki9168
    @chiyorimaki9168 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    イタリア人の空手もすっごいかっこいいわ~

  • @bimorpirlanta
    @bimorpirlanta 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SUPER

  • @user-id1cx8xg8d
    @user-id1cx8xg8d ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice.

  • @obi89
    @obi89 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    awesome teams, both of them. But i can see why the japan team was a little bit better :-) i think at least i can.. a little.. :D

  • @gtavgamerz3824
    @gtavgamerz3824 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    cả 2 link đều bị gỡ vì vi phạm rồi a ơi

  • @tnaraw2696
    @tnaraw2696 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @solnaciente.9704
    @solnaciente.9704 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Disculpen la pregunta,y disculpen tambien la ignorancia:q estilo de Karate es esta version del Kata Anan?? (No la ubico ni en SHITO RYU ni tampoco en SHOTOKAN) q estilo de Karate es esta Kata?? Saludos.Oss.

  • @Begon-xg3wl
    @Begon-xg3wl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perfect my God

  • @IreneJoseph-gx3mu
    @IreneJoseph-gx3mu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice karate

  • @TeamGAJU
    @TeamGAJU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This annan looks different, what style (Ryu-ha) of annan is this?

  • @mestredivonzir8960
    @mestredivonzir8960 ปีที่แล้ว

    parabéns maravilha

  • @vincentferrigno9726
    @vincentferrigno9726 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Woah, these girls are poetry in motion.

  • @sohaybelidrissiartist2320
    @sohaybelidrissiartist2320 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is soooooo beautiful

  • @lamly8549
    @lamly8549 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Verygood ilikethis.thanks

  • @danielealmeida7494
    @danielealmeida7494 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meu Deus que coisa linda.

  • @rubiaktararshiya5954
    @rubiaktararshiya5954 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful japanese kat🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵

  • @Uberboy07
    @Uberboy07 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was my guess but I was not sure. Thanks :]

  • @hideguitarht6010
    @hideguitarht6010 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    素晴しい

  • @bajuszpal172
    @bajuszpal172 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful movements, yet what i miss, with all respects, are extra comments of directions (selecting defence in direction of the starting hand) and preference for lower level counterattacks ( if we are shorter than the opponent), which could only help, particularly the beginners. Best regards, Paul67, retired instructor of Karate

  • @joaoeraldo3564
    @joaoeraldo3564 ปีที่แล้ว

    é por isso q só é bom em filme

  • @user-xh6lk9os4w
    @user-xh6lk9os4w 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    静と動が綺麗に分かれていて、素晴らしい!
    日本が勝ったのは、後半になってもふらついたり勢いが無くなったりしなかったからだね

  • @micaelyeduarda2289
    @micaelyeduarda2289 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    legal demais

  • @ronaldocenteno7937
    @ronaldocenteno7937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hola mucho gusto

  • @OMC0Z
    @OMC0Z 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    やはり、日本の空手はキレがありますな。イタリアの方々のも良かったが、日本の作法の隅々までがまだ至らなかったところもあったように見えました。例えば、礼をした時はしっかり床を見るところ、体を曲げた時にしっかり止まるところとかね

    • @mattyoresu
      @mattyoresu 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +J demonik
      空手の事知らないんで上手いのか下手なのか正直わからないんですけど、シンクロに関しては日本人以外は下手だろうって思ってたらイタリアの人たちもなかなか合ってた気がして自分の無知さとイタリア人に対して罪悪を感じてしまいました(汗)

    • @OMC0Z
      @OMC0Z 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +mattyores そうですね。やはり世界の舞台に出てくるのですから、息ぴったりでした。イタリア側の演舞もかなり迫力のある演技でしたね。

    • @mattyoresu
      @mattyoresu 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +J demonik 海外に住んでいるとわかるんですけど日本のように一丸となるって精神が海外にはほぼないのでこの動画で少なからず何かしらを極めてる人達はやはり他の人とは違うものを持ってるんだと思います

  • @user-sv8ev1ug8e
    @user-sv8ev1ug8e 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉merci ❤❤❤❤❤🎉❤🎉❤

  • @Hdiassio
    @Hdiassio 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    a me piace karate per questo guardo video di karate

  • @tambordeogum7921
    @tambordeogum7921 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Show🎉

  • @aidarabadini4917
    @aidarabadini4917 ปีที่แล้ว

    It IS formidable

  • @rendraajisaputroagung1878
    @rendraajisaputroagung1878 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bagus kata beregu Putri karate

  • @nicolaspangaut845
    @nicolaspangaut845 ปีที่แล้ว

    magnifique kata

  • @sergey.vasilyev
    @sergey.vasilyev หลายเดือนก่อน

    Красота!!!

  • @sidahmedmadi5429
    @sidahmedmadi5429 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    اتمنى النجاح و التقدم

  • @GolcondaAnglers
    @GolcondaAnglers 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome 👍 excellent 👍 super 👍 OSS

  • @mouneshbadiger6405
    @mouneshbadiger6405 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good movements this movements new name khatasu. 👍

  • @bobsanpetkov6863
    @bobsanpetkov6863 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Страхотна демонстрация,браво.

  • @FabrizioIannucci1
    @FabrizioIannucci1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Definitively: as Tamano Sensei said, karate is like the water inside a bowl it is hot till it has fire under, and the fire is the practice :)
    I'm 54 and after 35 of practice I've resigned karate practice and teaching, so I'm no more than an old karate practitioner and a "former" goju master ..master ;)

  • @Nitebreed
    @Nitebreed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I watched this at 2X speed and it was much better

  • @user-zv9dt5pn5h
    @user-zv9dt5pn5h 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hola buenos dias Para ustedes el Carate es Muy in portante para todas las que gusten.entrar.alas Artes marciales Ami Meycanta El Carate del Tecuando Hola amigas

  • @Baltazar60196
    @Baltazar60196 10 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Even their breathing are in sinchronism '-' 2:50

    • @timerimgrinder7257
      @timerimgrinder7257 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Matheus Baltazar de Lima that’s not breathing they slide they legs

  • @user-zv9dt5pn5h
    @user-zv9dt5pn5h 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hola Amigas buenas noches parati amigita

  • @xianwuxing
    @xianwuxing 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very Nice, I'm a kung fu guy don't know much about Karate but they posses some serious skill.

  • @JanuszSyty-pj1uo
    @JanuszSyty-pj1uo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jestem starcem i lubię sztukę walki.Marek

  • @nagagwa52
    @nagagwa52 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool even for an old timer like me that has seen some of the best and worst kata over 46 yrs--these are great competitors