BIG DIFFERENCE! Hannibal Barca almost won. He had all the tools at his disposal, but ultimately Carthage was a society of merchants and Rome a society of soldiers. Carthage never fully backed Hannibal due to the fear of his possible popularity after defeating their biggest enemy. It's one of the biggest what-ifs to historians. Valyria just curb stomped them everytime. I know I'm comparing something insignificant, but the effort that went into Hannibal Barca's campaign can never be overstated. It ultimately failed, but just like Grand Admiral Thrawn, it was never the fault of his skills. Sorry for the long spill 😅 Check out HistoryMarche
@guccifer764 quite alot if they come in large enough numbers. Ever seen crows swarm an eagle? Even small birds can shred the wings and bring down much larger ones
Valyria:Rome Old ghiscari: Greece & Macedonia .. remember ghis is in the east and they conquered before valyria did ..just like Rome during the Hellenistic expansion, the land army of the ghiscari looks similar to the phalanx army and the hoplites
It's surreal seeing the lore of asoiaf presented as real history.. I literally feel like I'm watching a video that exists in the modern age of Planetos
Please do a video on Maegor the Cruel's reign and war against the Faith sine you seemed to have skipped over it(?) Or maybe you could do some history/lore summaries of the Great Houses.
Some accounts say that the dragon riding entered to Valaryia after refugees from the Golden Empire arrived there following the events of the bloodstone empire.
Very funny fact: the Castle of Chapultepec was part of the House of the Dragon promotion but the INAH (the Mexican government's Archeology Institute) sued Max!
Old valyria was founded in some 4600 BC not 2000 and the long night happened around 8,000 years ago so unless they retconned something something that I'm not aware of I think you got your dates mixed up
I gotta give it to Ghiscari, building an empire of that size via brute strength, no dragons needed. Valyrians were nothing but sheepherders before discovering dragons. I've always said Valyrians would be sought after bed slaves if it werent for Dragons.
It's easy to build a powerful empire when you make slaves do it for you , and I'm tired of this downplaying of valyreans they also had magic and valyrean steal they didn't rely completely on dragons nor are they nothing without them .
@@thatoneblackdude3333 Wtf literally every single empire used slavery not just Ghiscari. They came out ontop despite that and subjugated everyone else using their lockstep legions and great commanders. Valyrians are literally NOTHING but sheep herders without their dragons. I would argue that without them discovering dragons they would have been conquered and enslaved by the Ghiscari. Valyrian steal and all the other great monuments came about AFTER they discovered dragons and used their new slaves to build all of that.
@@agentopaque3776 the fact that they discovered magic and valyrean steal without slaves shows that the valyreans aren't nothing without dragons, ghiscari are nothing without slaves just a bunch of arrogant Rich people taking advantage of the weak there's nothing praise worthy about that.
@@thatoneblackdude3333 The Ghiscari literally created the oldest and one of the longest lasting civilizations in the entire history of the World of Ice and Fire. Old Ghis was already old when Valyrians tamed their first dragons and created their first cities, forming their civilization in the shadow of Ghis. Valyrians became great by emulating Ghis. Their created their great civilization under the influence of Old Ghis, who was already great. And who else but Ghis would be albe to wage 5 different wars against dragons and not be destroyed immediately, like the lords of Westeros during Aegon's conquest? In the pyramid of Meereen there are even Ghiscari reliefs showing defeated Valyrian soldiers, so despite eventually loosing the war Ghiscari still managed to win some battles. Don't downplay the Ghiscari
@agentopaque Then what’s wrong with that? They have tools (dragons) to exert their power and control over other nation. You should say without nuclear weapons, superpowers like US or Russian are nothing to the world.
The legions were .... decimated? They tried to rebel against the empire, and were punished for it, by beating to death every 10th legionary by his comrades in arms? That's horrible!
@@KaiHung-wv3ulTrue but I think the OP was speaking about albino dragon riding people with strange colored eyes who once ruled a grand empire but were reduced to a mere island and degenerated into insanity.
One would think the Ghiscari truly learned the horrors of slavery when they were conquered by the Valyrian Freehold, maybe learning insights about their own brutality. But no, the Ghiscari still practice slavery in ASOIAF. In a twist of events, the last true Valyrian will eventually eradicate that vile practice and mend her ancestors wrongdoings. Daenerys Targaryen will prevail!
A very interesting video. It is a shame that the distant past of the World of ice and Fire is not more defined (I would like to know more about Yi Ti beyond what you could read in "The World of Ice and Fire and the few details in the books). But we should better not give Martin wrong ideas what to focus on... It is a irony, that while Old Ghis and its legions did fall so longe ago, more of their heritage and traditions has survived than of both their main enemies. The Sarnori are almost gone, and the tongue of the Valyrians is spoken mainly by scolars and few remaining distant relatives of the dragonriders of old. Somehow the old harpy had the last laugh, at least it seems.
Well across Ghiscar and in Slaver’s Bay they speak languages that come from Old Valyrian much like those of the free cities (similar to Latin becoming the Romance languages), while Old Ghiscari is essentially extinct in all forms, so Old Valyrian not being spoken still isn’t really a “win” for Old Ghis.
I love it. But can you do the histories of the Seven Kingdoms before the Conquest of the Dragon Riders? The nine regions of Westeros somehow feel different from one another.
I think this is really well done and a great visual adaptation from the source material. Would be cool to eventually see an in depth on century of blood or at least what happened immediately following the Doom
"The World of Ice and Fire" is an excellent major source, presented as an in-universe history book in the unreliable narrative style associated with ASOIAF.
The story and the Valeryan Sphinxes with the Fisher Queen stories and the Chimeria'i (sp?), they are same story different teller from a different person in time? Or is the eternal battle of light and dark a necessary for planetos. Oh heavens ...could you imagine what would happen in the USA if magic was real!? Yikes. Speaking of light and dark the gray wolves would appear light at night and dark compare to snow.
daveth baratheon Question would you do a video about this character on your Channel it be very interesting to see if you would do it and also nice style of Animation
Wait a second... These are just the Punic wars with dragons!
I caught that as well the way Rome salted Carthages fields.
Yeah man. And GOT is just The War of the Roses and the Dance of Dragons is just The Anarchy.
Nooo! What!?😅
Some old Valyrian aristocrat might even have said: Ghis delenda est!!!
BIG DIFFERENCE! Hannibal Barca almost won. He had all the tools at his disposal, but ultimately Carthage was a society of merchants and Rome a society of soldiers. Carthage never fully backed Hannibal due to the fear of his possible popularity after defeating their biggest enemy. It's one of the biggest what-ifs to historians.
Valyria just curb stomped them everytime.
I know I'm comparing something insignificant, but the effort that went into Hannibal Barca's campaign can never be overstated. It ultimately failed, but just like Grand Admiral Thrawn, it was never the fault of his skills.
Sorry for the long spill 😅
Check out HistoryMarche
I like the small detail of Rhaenys being the one holding Aegon's arm
Shame the ghiscari didn’t actually have harpies. Then they could have had cool fights between dragons and harpies.
Shit would be fire!
I mean, what would harpies even do against a dragon?
@guccifer764 quite alot if they come in large enough numbers. Ever seen crows swarm an eagle? Even small birds can shred the wings and bring down much larger ones
I hope you do history of westeros next, after you finish this series. There's so much to cover even before Aegon's conquest.
Valyria = Rome
Old Ghis = Carthage
Ghiscari Wars = Punic Wars
Valyria:Rome
Old ghiscari: Greece & Macedonia
.. remember ghis is in the east and they conquered before valyria did ..just like Rome during the Hellenistic expansion, the land army of the ghiscari looks similar to the phalanx army and the hoplites
@@shegzyblake28 They razed Old Ghis to the ground and salted the earth. Idk sounds like Carthage to me.
It's never a one-to-one in A Song of Ice and Fire. It's clearly inspired by both.
Sarnorian war chariots- Numidian cavalry
I love this new way you use 3d animations
Looks like Total War maps.
I really enjoyed this video. Thank you for covering this!
Thank you for this video. I've a much clearer understanding of the times and wars now. Looking forward to your next video
It's surreal seeing the lore of asoiaf presented as real history.. I literally feel like I'm watching a video that exists in the modern age of Planetos
I love your video on asoiaf thank you for always brightening my day. keep up the good work
Can't wait for Yi Ti video
Please do a video on Maegor the Cruel's reign and war against the Faith sine you seemed to have skipped over it(?)
Or maybe you could do some history/lore summaries of the Great Houses.
Some accounts say that the dragon riding entered to Valaryia after refugees from the Golden Empire arrived there following the events of the bloodstone empire.
I would love to see you make a video of The Expanse universe
The Harpy pyramid figures in world look like Valeryan Sphinxes to me...
Yes! with larger wings such makes me wonder if God came from the EOTD like Valerya did.
Long live House Targaryen.
Very funny fact: the Castle of Chapultepec was part of the House of the Dragon promotion but the INAH (the Mexican government's Archeology Institute) sued Max!
This but unironically.
5,000 years before Aegons conquest not 2,000 years.
the long night was 8,000 years ago
Old valyria was founded in some 4600 BC not 2000 and the long night happened around 8,000 years ago so unless they retconned something something that I'm not aware of I think you got your dates mixed up
I gotta give it to Ghiscari, building an empire of that size via brute strength, no dragons needed. Valyrians were nothing but sheepherders before discovering dragons. I've always said Valyrians would be sought after bed slaves if it werent for Dragons.
It's easy to build a powerful empire when you make slaves do it for you , and I'm tired of this downplaying of valyreans they also had magic and valyrean steal they didn't rely completely on dragons nor are they nothing without them .
@@thatoneblackdude3333 Wtf literally every single empire used slavery not just Ghiscari. They came out ontop despite that and subjugated everyone else using their lockstep legions and great commanders.
Valyrians are literally NOTHING but sheep herders without their dragons. I would argue that without them discovering dragons they would have been conquered and enslaved by the Ghiscari. Valyrian steal and all the other great monuments came about AFTER they discovered dragons and used their new slaves to build all of that.
@@agentopaque3776 the fact that they discovered magic and valyrean steal without slaves shows that the valyreans aren't nothing without dragons, ghiscari are nothing without slaves just a bunch of arrogant Rich people taking advantage of the weak there's nothing praise worthy about that.
@@thatoneblackdude3333 The Ghiscari literally created the oldest and one of the longest lasting civilizations in the entire history of the World of Ice and Fire. Old Ghis was already old when Valyrians tamed their first dragons and created their first cities, forming their civilization in the shadow of Ghis. Valyrians became great by emulating Ghis. Their created their great civilization under the influence of Old Ghis, who was already great. And who else but Ghis would be albe to wage 5 different wars against dragons and not be destroyed immediately, like the lords of Westeros during Aegon's conquest? In the pyramid of Meereen there are even Ghiscari reliefs showing defeated Valyrian soldiers, so despite eventually loosing the war Ghiscari still managed to win some battles. Don't downplay the Ghiscari
@agentopaque Then what’s wrong with that? They have tools (dragons) to exert their power and control over other nation. You should say without nuclear weapons, superpowers like US or Russian are nothing to the world.
The legions were .... decimated? They tried to rebel against the empire, and were punished for it, by beating to death every 10th legionary by his comrades in arms? That's horrible!
Old Ghiscari Delenda Est
Empire of geese?😂😂😂
You can really tell the big influence the saga of Elric of Melniboné had on the creation of Valyria.
So much!
This seems much closer to the Punic Wars.
Pinch o both
@@KaiHung-wv3ulTrue but I think the OP was speaking about albino dragon riding people with strange colored eyes who once ruled a grand empire but were reduced to a mere island and degenerated into insanity.
babe wake up another ASOIAF lore video just dropped
One would think the Ghiscari truly learned the horrors of slavery when they were conquered by the Valyrian Freehold, maybe learning insights about their own brutality. But no, the Ghiscari still practice slavery in ASOIAF.
In a twist of events, the last true Valyrian will eventually eradicate that vile practice and mend her ancestors wrongdoings. Daenerys Targaryen will prevail!
A very interesting video. It is a shame that the distant past of the World of ice and Fire is not more defined (I would like to know more about Yi Ti beyond what you could read in "The World of Ice and Fire and the few details in the books). But we should better not give Martin wrong ideas what to focus on...
It is a irony, that while Old Ghis and its legions did fall so longe ago, more of their heritage and traditions has survived than of both their main enemies. The Sarnori are almost gone, and the tongue of the Valyrians is spoken mainly by scolars and few remaining distant relatives of the dragonriders of old. Somehow the old harpy had the last laugh, at least it seems.
Well across Ghiscar and in Slaver’s Bay they speak languages that come from Old Valyrian much like those of the free cities (similar to Latin becoming the Romance languages), while Old Ghiscari is essentially extinct in all forms, so Old Valyrian not being spoken still isn’t really a “win” for Old Ghis.
Not really dany still alive in the books and valyrians still exist in volantis and lys also the language is still spoken in essos
I have been waiting for this one. History of Old Ghis is awesome
A pity martin hasn't done more work on the dragon lords
Agree, but at the same time, his world is already so big and I like that there is still a lot of room for speculation about it's history.
The penal colony of Gosogos is fascinating it makes you wonder what purpose the Valyrians created the chimeras
This really just comes across as ancient Valyrian propaganda... I'm here for it
I love it. But can you do the histories of the Seven Kingdoms before the Conquest of the Dragon Riders? The nine regions of Westeros somehow feel different from one another.
YES! Thanks For this! Love your GOT videos
This Total War style 3D Map is amazing. I hope we get more of this soon!!
Can we get more elder scrolls!!
Tnx for existing guys❤
There is always something to Live for brother ❤
Please also a video about the Rhoynar Wars. 🙏
get back to the 40k horus heresy lore videos, please
a video on the black company and ostend ard
I think this is really well done and a great visual adaptation from the source material. Would be cool to eventually see an in depth on century of blood or at least what happened immediately following the Doom
Woohoo I love the ice and fire universe and your videos on it 😊 now more Elder scrolls pls 🙏 thanks
Where did you find all this source material? I have never read about these events so I would like to read them too :)
The World Of Ice And Fire
Woah where can I find this info? Thanks for the video!
"The World of Ice and Fire" is an excellent major source, presented as an in-universe history book in the unreliable narrative style associated with ASOIAF.
@@richardthomas9497 thanks a lot!
The story and the Valeryan Sphinxes with the Fisher Queen stories and the Chimeria'i (sp?), they are same story different teller from a different person in time? Or is the eternal battle of light and dark a necessary for planetos. Oh heavens ...could you imagine what would happen in the USA if magic was real!? Yikes. Speaking of light and dark the gray wolves would appear light at night and dark compare to snow.
Ghis delenda est!
daveth baratheon Question would you do a video about this character on your Channel it be very interesting to see if you would do it and also nice style of Animation
Is the Mongolian Uchrony going to continue?
12 Mins WTF 😆 🤣 😂
Very interesting
Ty
very cool
excellent
Bruh
I would like to ask if you are planning to make another Warhammer 40K video?
yep
Team green forever
Meh... Never found the appeal in his lore... It's like some generic chinese fantasy game.. bits from here, bits from there.
So why are you here
@@luisquinones7511 "I built that fire over there"
?@@uisgeuisce
We need a Valyria show so bad, and series finale it explodes lol