This is perfect in a number of ways. People may not realize that, in the early days of Sears you could actually go to their Catalog and order yourself a home. All the parts, lumber, paint, additional materials, along with a crew of workers showed up in your town by rail. By horse and wagons, all the crew and materials, arrived at the home site and created your home. At my age, I only know this because a friend told me that her great-grandmother s home was made this way as a wedding present from her rich dad when she got married and moved to land newly purchased in the mid-west. He could afford to do this after helping to build the the transcontinental railroad in the 1800's. That house is still standing today.
And, ironically, many of those Sears "kits" were made regionally. Various regional sawmills were employed to shorten the train delivery system distances. My great grandfather ran one of those mills in Ohio.
I use to run a research lab. All disruptive ideas appear awkward before they become mainstream (mobile phones). And it’s normal business practice to first sell at a premium so that the business can recover its initial investment (Tesla). These guys have something. Stick built homes and buildings are ridiculously wasteful in terms of resources and time to build. Look at their shop. Perfectly clean. No waste. My only wish is for them to go vertical, build affordable housing, and expand their delivery area. Now that would be useful.
Again, Ms. Kirsten is there filming right on the cutting edge of design with technological answers for the most pressing issues of our times, affordable housing... Thank you...
What's sad, though, is that this solution is a semi-measure that works to make easier to operate within the regressive legal structure of one of the wealthiest regions of the world that has been constructed so that that the wealth of the landowner class can continue to grow dramatically, decade over decade. Further, though the build quality of the homes may be great, the overall quality is inherently lesser than a maximal solution due to size and location constraints. Additionally, as such is life in California, the true value of the structure is claimed by the existing, wealthy homeowner class. I can't help but to see solutions like this and feel that their value only exists because of the abysmal legal structure of a state like California and NOT because they are solving an inherent problem of the world. It's solving a manufactured legal problem created by wealthy homeowners to continue to expand their great wealth at the cost of all others.
I absolutely agree. The prices quoted were far and away more expensive than any tiny home should be. This is not affordable housing, this is rich people who don't want their in-laws to sleep in the same house they do when they come over for Christmas.
@@andrewstanek3160 you sound like a socialist, you think it's to expensive go somewhere cheaper California is a huge state there are place but for some retarded reason you stay and complained or work hard and smart save for 10 year every penny and buy land. Dont expect things to be fair there will never be a utopia no matter how much you think it should.
@@Dimabuildingadventures I really like this channel, because she finds some great stories, but then the comments are always expecting to solve more than just making some alternative ways of living. ie either smaller or in repurposed spaces or abandon villages in Italy. If your only thought is COST, leave LA, go to Detroit and buy a huge house for a few thousand dollars. But then we also need to work, find purpose and fulfillment, and so it often means going into more costly areas. The internet is rapidly leveling the world in some ways, as access does not require being urban, at the same time all the high tech job are in a few spots where costs are highest. It would seem that you could code anywhere and not have to fight for spaces to build and drive and park. But Amazon put their new HQ into the most crowded and costly spot rather than a more affordable spot.
The bespoke elements will definitely make maintenance daunting!! I would also love to hear more about the build process including gas, plumbing, etc. Neat looks though
Maintaining the windows and doors, or getting access to an electrical socket that has stopped working for some reason and needs investigating would be a nightmare.
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Hello Erick, Thank you for the note. I'm pleased that you've stuck around so long. I'm sure my style isn't for everyone, but I definitely love telling stories this way. Thanks for watching! - Kirsten
Thanks again Kirsten! Your channel is probably my #1 favorite channel in the world. Why? Because you highlight brilliant humans, doing innovative stuff to make this world a better place. You and the people doing such marvelous work is what gives me hope for humanity. This is a Happy Channel in an Unhappy World...thank you...thank you!!!
I was just at the mall in Sherman Oaks Los Angeles and there was a shipping container converted office that could be put in your backyard it was the size of a typical walk-in closet and it was marked as $50,000
Love this so much. Very sleek designs. I can imagine that families with the right properties could have these built so that their parents and/or in-laws could live in beautiful at a much less cost than senior living facilities.
I did some number crunching from the example of the structure they showed at 4:50. A 279 square foot structure without a kitchen or bath has a basic price of $99,800. Permit fees are $6400. They estimate site work to be an additional 20 to 30%. That would be a total of $121,160 to $136,140. That's around $434 to $488 a square foot. Maybe this is viable in Los Angeles. I doubt if would be cost effective in many areas, especially with the additional higher costs of adding a kitchen and bath.
There's a song called "It never rains in Southern California".... It's funny because I live in Ohio and the houses here have no overhangs either so you can never leave the windows open for fear of rain (it rains here).
Applying this system is an instant fix to making use of space readily available on existing properties... Cheaper options and affordable choices...happy spaces..happier people..maybe this could be applied to the homeless in LA.. A major problem that's not going away...solutions are staring us in the face. Thank you for this one..as always great Intel.
such a fake marketing voice trying to sound like your every-day guy. Typical problem with corporate america these days. Instead of trying to manipulate people into wanting your gimmicky faddy things you happen to want to make, why don't you try making what people actually want and truly need. Then you might not even need a marketing department! What a concept!! The problem with housing in America is that they've stopped building NORMAL SMALL HOUSES. Why does all new construction of single family homes have to be either mcMansions or nothing?? How about building some small homes on small plots but to the latest standards. Not tiny homes you can't stand up in, not containers, but just normal small houses. Any small houses are all old. Our housing stock has become old, tired and outdated, but that doesn't mean we don't need precisely those types of homes. A lot of these smaller houses have problems that modern technology could avoid, but there's one problem - they're simply not being built. Because nobody REALLY cares about your average family with an average income but that also wants their own little house, with a little private yard and an attached garage with entry into the dwelling (but not necessarily inside the dwelling). Hey, and if your child happens to be into music and an old aunt is willing to donate a baby-grand piano, you can even fit that in the living room. You need only drive through some neighborhoods in older NJ towns to see what i mean. The little neat quiet streets with neat and tidy little brick cape-codders built in the 40s and 50s. There's a feeling of neighborhood and yet privacy on these friendly side-walked streets that speak of good old-fashioned quality. We need to simply return to those times but with the latest technology. A lot of the most critical work is done preparing the site, that's where a lot of quality issues arise - from the quality of the foundation, the grading, etc. The 'prefab' part is the easy part. We don't need your techie 'design' gimmicks, we need good old fashioned common sense but built with latest technology, that's all.
@Just think I don't know what this 'zero lot line' thing is.. We have a huge country, plenty for everyone, why can't we just have small houses on little plots, say 1/4 of an acre? With normal ownership between well defined property lines. Enough for a small yard (not much grass to mow is a plus), a garage and a driveway. A sidewalk in front is always great in a neighborhood - somewhere to walk the dogs. We shouldn't strive for gimmicks, we should strive for NORMAL, just with newest technology. Technology is also about improvement, you know, not just upheaval. What is the point of constantly throwing the baby out with the bathwater and reinventing the wheel??
@Just think Yeah, and no basement. A well built and insulated basement is a great thing, especially in the colder climates. I would never buy a place with the main floor right against the cold ground, not to mention that constantly standing/walking on cement is not the best for joints. But these gimmicky solutions tend to ignore the fact that however you want to evolve technology, human beings and their anatomy do not change. We will never grow two heads with two brains to allow us to multitask, for example, (other than preemptive multitasking as in early computers), but there are those who pretend that technology is about humans changing physically, not about changing objects to make life for humans easier as they are.
Another company providing what is needed in this changing world, compact housing to suit single person or small family living in a large city, good stuff!!
I know I'm nitpicking, but all the outlets in their model units are installed crooked. If this is the level of attention to detail that they apply to their "model display", I can imagine what their production unit would look like. I mention this because he keeps emphasizing quality, but I'm not seeing it in the details.
I unfortunately have to agree. And the hole around is slightly too big. Also the cabinets doors needs adjustments to sit nicely and the shelving system needs attention to the woodworking.
I completely agree. I also agree with corner liston that the cabinet doors are uneven. The ceiling slot is also unsightly, in my opinion, and I wonder why they haven't recessed the downlights into the ceiling panels, like most builders would. The same could easily be done with speakers and the like. I'm sad to say it, but this product appears to have been designed by someone who doesn't know what they're doing, to be brutally honest.
Amen ElectricUnicycles Amen! The whole point of investing into a tiny home is that the small surface areas mean that they ought to be well designed, finished well and made of high quality materials. It is obvious that the startup group is not really passionate about tiny homes.
not nitpicking for that price or any price... crooked is crooked... and don't let anyone con you when they say, "you should manage your expectations." ...always expect the best...
I wouldn’t normally make comments on TH-cam videos but, after reading what most had to say… you can’t possibly live in the LA area otherwise you would know, that this is a great idea! First some quick data points. 57% of the rental property in the LA area $2000+ per month (that right more than some mortgage payments) (source - Rental Café) $2,371 is the average rent in LA (source - Rental Café) Los Angeles, CA Apartment Rent Ranges • $701-$1,000 - only 1% of all rentals are in this price range • $1,001-$1,500 - 16% • $1,501-$2,000 - 26% • > $2,000 - 57% Who’s the target market. The first criteria were homes owned where zonings laws have been relaxed to allow a separate dwelling to be built on the property. So you’re not a new home buyer…..so who are you? You’re a current home/land owner or who has space to build a 2nd dwelling that could potentially be a rental property. And possible have low enough investment cost to create more rental in the $1000 - $1500 price point. So at 150k to install the unit would pay for its self in 8yrs assuming you charged $1500 per month. Why go this route? Overall maybe slightly more expensive to build( not 100% sure that’s a true statement) but with all of the your permits, as well as inspections being completed on site during fabrication, Your timeframe from design to new monthly income stream, is months of ahead of schedule, without all of the potential delays that are inherent normal construction.
You aren't as bright as you try to appear. 100K for a mother-in-law house in the back yard is ridiculous when pre-fabbed container homes go for half that... and they're twice the price of what's reasonable. Two things for certain are you don't know real estate, and you don't know building.
if you have a look at the company profile on their web page they give better guarantees than most companies. also for all the nay sayers they have a big group of engineers, mechanical engineers, construction and architect professionals as well as cad and soft ware designers. seem like a great company well put together. i suppose change is hard for some people to deal with. well done on finding and presenting these guys on your channel Kirsten.
At this rate the only trade skill that will exist in 8 years is demo. These housing startups (and this is far from the first) always forget that maintenance down the road is a thing, or just flat out forget that skilled tradesmen are going to be elbow deep in their product later on. Inevitably that unit will be easier to demolish and replace than it will be to repair.
@@marcuspinson We are living in a time when homes are meant to be disposable. Here in NYC, there are buildings going up with lifespans of 30 years (aluminum, gypsum, wood). Long enough for someone to pay off their $800K mortgage and then retire somewhere less harsh. Its a trashy world my friend
@@scientifico looks like I'm gonna make some good money when it's time for those to come down. Since I'm one of the only under-30s i know who's licensed and experienced in heavy equipment operation. I'll be the one who gets to demo all of this crap. Then scrap it all.
Someone ought to take these rich-hipster-in-law-suites disguised as "ultra-modern prefabs", replicate the same concept, and make actual affordable housing at a fraction of these prices. Then it'll REALLY take off.
I used to work in Escrow. Naturally I handled a lot of escrows for builders. One builder who just so happened to be building a few houses just down the street from where I lived at that time, told me that if he buys a lot for $7,000, hires a couple guys to do all the work, his being the licensed builder can get inspectors out quickly. That particular lot he purchased for $7,000 plus the hired labor, the permits, all the appliances and building materials - the 1500 sq ft house with garage, cost him $20,000 to build. All in. He'd sell those homes for $80 to $85,000. That was back in the '90's. Land was cheaper. Though it always matters where you purchase. It was in California. But the point is, builders USED to scale their profits on a build by 4 times what it cost them. Not anymore. Now it's SO outrageous that no one can really afford anything. Unless your an illegal alien moving 30 people in a rented house or apt ... all of them chipping in something for the rent. Which has a lot to do with the spiraling out of control cost of housing in California. Like it or not. It happens to be true. Builders and Landlords caught on and are raking it in by leaps and bounds. These little pods ... probably run this factory 5 grand to build each, labor, materials, permits, inspections. maybe a tiny bit more. But they sell these tiny pods for 100 grand. And the buyer buy's the land. prepares the pad the pod will be sitting on. i.e. pay for the plumbing, running the electrical, and water lines to the pod. etc. Sooo for 160 grand or so, you can all be the proud owner of a 297 sq ft closet. Maybe a little more as I noticed those plans didn't include in the cost, bathroom or kitchen. So that might be extra. Scary stuff.
Kirsten, this is my favorite TH-cam channel! :) I was watching some Konmari and did a thought experiment, if I only subscribed to the channels that bring me joy, which would I keep and yours was on the top of the list. I've been following for so many years, I don't even know when I started, but you were called Fair Companies back then.
There's a reason they don't put the rollers in the door frame normally. It's called gravity. Dirt and crap will collect in there over time, causing failure. A person will have to be very diligent to maintain that track, and we all know that most people aren't diligent.
It's amazing how homes can be constructed so poorly. It's good that there's companies upping the game and actually producing durable and quality products. I find the factory related data driven management option presented here allowing for more easy planning and deployment within the community simply amazing.
This guy and his team are brilliant. We need this in NZ and this idea sold to the government which would be faster to produce than the KiwiBuild initiative.
This is Amazing! I hope they get even more exposure because this could help so many people. I'm a single man and this would be perfect for me easy to maintenance and will cut down on so many costs including energy. Great work Gentlemen and Woman!
There is. Their product is affordable for anyone. The name escapes me right now. He builds tiny homes and has made them panelized. Not as fancy but practical. His name is Andrew Bennett.
I have been a warranty manager for a home building company. An extremely important part is that sometimes things go wrong and things must be repaired or changed. I don't see this, for example in the electrical outlets being able to be repaired or replaced. remember the automotive industry only builds vehicles to last a set number of years , but houses must last much longer and be able to be used for many more years or repaired or modified for years as people's needs change. Please give this some forethought. And make your home's a little more adaptable for the future which cannot be predicted.
This is one of the best "pre-fab" strategies I've seen yet. As a contractor, I"ve built a few pre-fabs over the years going back to the '80s. The idea of doing most of the work indoors in factory settings has always been appealing, but the factories have to be near markets or they get 'islanded' revenue-wise. These people have really thought about the site and the methodology, more than anything I've seen so far. I'm about to build an energy efficient house in the desert not far from them. I've been looking for (affordable) sliding doors for years. Obviously they couldn't find them either, and had to build their own. Very good.
I am so impressed, that for a second I considered ditching my last semester of Human Services (and grad school plans for Clinical Mental Health Counseling) to go back to design school and end up working for you guys. I will probably do the next close thing and just purchase a package at some point. Great developed in so many ways. I hope this company takes off.
@Just think I don't know if I agree there. I think there is huge benefit in the way they handle the process of planning and manufacturing. That's what I admired about it. As for student debt, I have none.
These guys are amazing. We've had them over in the past and their process is super impressive. I suggest all to get in touch if you have any worries/complaints: they are really open to constructive criticism. It would be great if we can all help -them or whoever- achieve this ideal of construction instead of keeping this information online.
Interesting to see some innovation in prefab buildings as a result of the change in Californian law and also the harnessing of big data - in this case the aggregating of data from several sites to help in the design process.
I used to file grants based upon federal program. I filed with ten cities in riverside County I had to threaten a lawsuit for them to accept and fund the project. All ten grants were identical only used MS word to change the city name. That is why the local exemption by state statute allows placement of ADU units or other uses nimbly excuse. Cathedral city CA wanted to put low income property outside city limits. They got a bill thru state legislature but vetoed by governor in q990's. Ninby
@@robertjackson4121 NIMBYism is a terrible problem we regularly have it in sections of our town, Bielefeld in Germany. Not In My BackYard is often a response to the fear of the unknown than the reality.
@@johncrwarner the only thing worse is a HOA rules. In Indian country of 50,000,000 acres is $250 billion of mismanagement by the Bureau of Indian affairs. The case was US v. cobalt 26 court cases and settlement of $1.5 billion. I have a hearing about mis management of my forest land Tommrow. Improper road cost impact China export market Canadian softwood exchange rates and polosie says no NAFTA 2.0 vote this year that has caused 50% cut in log prices today. A charge of $68,000 for temp road cost . The bia is my trust officer
Kirsten, lately your videos are coming across my desk and my monitor more often. I enjoy them a lot. All of them are quality videos with a quality message. I get a lot out of them. Thank you..
Oh wow, I was just about to comment the opposite. I loved the content, but thought that she should hire some help with the production value. It looks very amateur to me.. awkward drone footage, unsteady hands, etc
Costly process but they seem to be on the right track and there will be a demand for it in the near future, no questions. The sliding door system & windows are awesome. Designing your own window system is costly with all the testings and very similar to another high end system. He also brought up a very good point with the slow process with any city and they are taking care of it with innovations. The only downside is the overhead. Administration, Marketing, Fabrication, Installation.... Great work :)
@@jmk1962 These designs are heavily flawed! example: flush floor to ceiling windows can work. reversing a track/roller door system to have rollers on the bottom says failure. The value of this company is not how they build homes, it is in the software used in the site identification process! that is cool.
It doesn't matter how expensive it is as long as your happy to live in your dream home Its a fulfillment and satisfaction. Enjoy each momment we live everday and we die once.
The smaller ones just look like glass boxes, they look like they would get hot real fast, but the larger designs look nice. All those unique fittings and features means that long-term maintenance will be a nightmare. You better hope this company is still going if you ever have a problem with one of those windows or doors. The average builder won't know where to begin, which translates to expensive.
Barn Star - The panels did appear to include significant insulation and the windows obviously were double-panes plus state/county/city codes do have minimum insulation requirements.
The best thing of this house is the pretty model they used for walking out of it. For non technical people who love design, this factory maybe gives a nice feeling. I guess experienced technical people are seeing mainly a lot of potential problems when the 'house' is around for a little longer.
Very interesting design. Although I'm afraid for many people it may be a little too "cold". But if this idea helps cities to get more affordable housing its great! Most big property development companies in europe are already building prefabricated houses or use modular systems. But this is great for very small lots. And I really like their website and all the data they assembled for potential customers.
So very nice to see, I am actually in Spain now, after living all my life in irvine, and Pasadena, California. I experienced the huge change this state has had. Remember years ago it was actually a paradise, not so many people, companies offering great jobs, the cost of a three bedroom wonderful home=250.000!!! And the parking, commuting, just overall living was a dream! Now the traffic is constant at all hours-over population, pollution, stress, job opportunity, crime rate, cost of living is ridiculous! Don't get me wrong, even though California has changed so much, I still miss my stomping grounds... European living is ok but no one can save you from the culture shock lol. California, still such a special place... Thx for the information in this video, great stuff!! :-) :-)
Okay they're beautiful and efficient, but still expensive. Plus, they mention a "Lego like" assembly wth floor to ceiling glass in L.A. These materials are super heavy. I'm curious to know what would happen in a 6,7, or 8.0 earthquake.
Depends on how the structure behaves in a shakeout. If I'm not mistaken; stickbuild is one of the best performing structure types in an earthquake. It sounds to me like this is similar but instead of nails and 2 by 4s we're dealing with precut pieces bolted together. So I guess it depends on how they engineered the joints. My thinking would be that these are possible points of failure but these are guys with degrees and I'm a layman so I'd hope they'd expect that and put some pretty fatass connectors between their modules.
lego like means you're buying into the concept totally. Could you for example add on something that's not part of the lego paradigm? Somebody here compared this concept to a car, how you can only replace the door in whole and only with the manufacturer's parts etc. But cars and houses are two different things. Cars are not meant to last forever because they have mechanical parts. Otherwise they wouldn't be component-oriented. Just imagine you bought a Prius, and then one day they just stop making Priuses. Unfortunate for many, but not the end of the world, because cars are short-lived single-use entities by definition, at least conventionally. Houses can and should last almost forever and should not be dependent on one manufacturer. If the manufacturer goes out of business you're stuck?? That's pretty funny. They should be built to a strict code, but with complete freedom to remold into the future. And what we need a lot more of is not tiny houses, not containers, not these stupid gimmicks, but normal SMALL single family houses. Like the little brick cape-codders they built in the 40s and 50s, but with modern technology in all materials, that's all. Pluggable large-scale components is always a very tempting concept, but it rarely works as imagined and not for all applications. Why, because of the very progress that conceives them. By the time you're up for the replacement of a part, they've stopped making it and supporting it, or company's gone out of business and something new has come along. Paradoxically the overly revved up speed of progress lately is the very thing that makes this approach impractical. ESPECIALLY in houses LOL
На этом производстве нет ни какого high tech кроме mac, оборудование старое, даже по российским меркам, очередная попытка продать дешёвый товар за большие деньги
For all the complainers: when he said "there's a need for more housing," that doesn't have to refer to low-cost housing. This is certainly a luxury item, and they shouldn't be ashamed of it. Storage containers are 1,500 bucks and can be decked out nicely for half this cost. Why can't both solutions exist?
Controlling the environment the building is made in isn’t such a bad thing. I remember when houses were built in the summer time or at least got to the dried in stage when it was dry out. Now they are throwing them up in the rain and snow. That can’t be good for the materials being used or the people who eventually have to live in a house with mold.
@Tribulation Prepper - Depends what you''re comparing to... Houses aren't all built to the same standards so they're not all going to cost the same. There's a big difference from how say a Tract Home is built from how a custom high end home is built. Just like there's a big difference a luxury yacht and a Shanty Boat... Everything has a cost/benefit/trade-off to consider but anything involving choices means a lot of the costs will be down to people's choices... Like an analogy would be going to a car dealership and telling them you want a Lamborghini with all the optional features vs asking for a Honda Civic with base package, there's going to be a very large difference in the price they're going to quote you... Really, want a low cost home then don't choose high end features like floor to ceiling sliding glass doors, custom cabinetry, smart home automation, radiant floor heating, high end fixtures and appliances, custom furniture, etc. Nor try to live in a part of the country where you'd need a house built to handle weather and climate extremes that a basic house wouldn't be able to handle... Among other things to avoid that can add cost to a home... Builders can only do so much to limit costs but end of the day, they're in the business of providing their customers what they want... Custom builders like this one will actually have a range of prices because not all of their customers will order the same configuration for their homes.
@@ZeoCyberG Hey Willis... I understand (FAB), Features, Advantages and Benefits. My comment was prompted by what this builder said at the very end of this video, around the 11:30 mark as well as by what some other "pre-fab" builders have touted in other videos when they claim a cost savings for their Model T type, assembly line, home production process. Henry Ford's efforts made automobiles publicly affordable. I don't see the same result where this new breed of snap it together home builders is concerned. As with tiny houses, the price per square foot for these Lego Homes is absolutely outrageous as nice as they may be. With the US economy on the verge of collapse, ANOTHER real estate bubble being readied to burst and new generations of jobless college grads on the way, there is no future for these overpriced boxes. Just my opinion. Take care.
@Tribulation Prepper - "No future" is what they've said about many things, including Ford's Model T when it first came out... Here's the thing, the cost savings are real. The problem is the market they're in demands high end products and it'll take more than reducing the production costs to over come what high end adds to the costs. But apply the same production to a more basic design and they can sell it for a lot less... A lot of the problem is most of the people with the money to buy homes don't want anything they will perceive as low end and even when they do they have to worry about their neighbors, etc. making their life hell for making that choice. There's companies like Incredible Tiny Homes that have starting prices at $25K but most of their customers don't buy those models in anywhere near the numbers needed to make that a good business model to rely on for them... It's a supply and demand market and builders can't sell what there isn't an enough demand for or they'll just go out of business, which many have already. While those with little money are often in the position they can't even afford the low cost homes but even then most still seek high end because that is what they expect to have with a home or somehow it's no longer worth it... There's too much of a perception that low cost = dump/trash/slums... and too many people who think having less = suffering and dehumanizing... Like Jay Shaffer recently showed off a modular design that can start with a very basic core unit for under $5K as a starting point that could at least get people into a better situation who would otherwise be homeless that they can build from and add to over time but it still gets criticized for being too small, too basic, not being a "real" house, too reliant on shared resources to get started, etc. People in our society have forgotten how houses used to be built when most people did it themselves and build homes over generations. It has to be all or nothing, even if they're open to alternative lifestyle choices like living off-grid, which not all are and is yet another barrier to getting costs lower... So it's not a situation you can expect just the builders to fix because they can't. Society and pretty much the entire housing system has to radically change from how it works now. We have to end NiMBY'ism, reduce consumerism, and the other barriers to getting more practical solutions out and actually used.
If you build home with literal legos it will be more durable and cost less :) But it's LA... p.s. 11:31 prefab tech startup from LA can't even provide good air conditioning for their employees. Fans FTW!
California state should purchase hundreds of these for the homeless living on the streets of LA and SF. The sidewalks are large enough to handle them end to end.
They clearly have growing pains to go through; i mean they have like 2 cnc machines and 10 employees. They're prototyping with machining but not really mass producing. They need those designers but they should really have 20 cnc cutters poping this shit out round the clock. For LA I'm sure it's a great deal for what it is.
@@tachyonelectrics898 you can bet they're cutting every corner they possibly can on quality, and you can bet their employees are overstressed and overworked.
The main problem I see with these designs, aside from the unjustified price for self-advertised flat-pack low-cost homes, is the overuse of VOC-rich materials like laminated particleboard. Sure, it's easy and precise to work with it on CNC, but you're practically living in a laminate closet, and they were never meant for that. VOC-level grading is considered with a moderate material density in mind. Meaning that safe VOC levels are often at the upper limit in real world conditions, if not above it, because people tend to use too much flat-pack furniture and other products with "safe" VOC-levels. But all those "safe" levels add up and they have a compound effect on the body. Not to mention VOC is a wide range of chemicals, one worse than the next.
That is wonderful & beautiful! You should highly train more teams so you can put a team & a prefab unit on a truck & send them off around the country to build them. People are desperate for these workspaces, homes & jobs. Thank you for your creativity!
Some of the ideas are not practical. Rollers in the tracks will become clogged with dirt / debris over time. Electrical outlets have plates so it is easier to replace if you have a short or burnout as well as an isolation switch. This would not pass building codes in my country.
I think EVERY COMMET misses the point of what these jackasses are doing - their true product is the data driven software. They are not home builders, though they think they are because they designed software that aggregates data sources and builds a land use/compliance model for properties in the Los Angeles area. I have no doubt that their real business plan is to design and sell the algorithm in as many municipalities as possible. Building these boxes with their new CNC machine is just a revenue stream to support the software development.
I totally see that and agree with you. This is a long play on their part. Clever bastards. But they do need to worry about protecting that Intellectual property because anyone can source data. I can see a competitor easily coming in, learning from their mistakes and building a better mouse trap, so to speak -- the same way the guy in the video did after he left that pre-fab company he once worked for.
These are very aesthetically beautiful to look at and very funtional and all of that, I like the large windows but I would want them to be the type of glass that allows view out from the inside, but will not allow anyone to see in from the outside and yet still allow all of the sunlight to come through!!! And I guess for California those prices might be okay, but they would never make it in central southern states like Oklahoma, except maybe in OKC or Tulsa maybe, but even there it would be iffy!!!! Great video though!!! And great builds, they are just too pricey in my opinion especially if going to be building a lot of them the cost should come way down because you would be getting all of the stuff in bulk repeatedly which should bring initial costs way down, which should translate to the customers!!!
These type of construction cant get here fast enough. It is crazy to think in the US how housing still executing in the same model as 100 years ago. This process will drive a ton of innovation and quality and efficiency that is badly lacking
Dont believe everything you see in a video they a re missing alot of things this is good for the area and for one or two people sleeping In it that's all. This won't work in many areas of the country and it's a fansy shed!
Also the connection and sealing system is my main interest. Unfortunately they dont provide much details about this. I do think that they add a waterproof membrane that covers all off the panels
This is perfect in a number of ways. People may not realize that, in the early days of Sears you could actually go to their Catalog and order yourself a home. All the parts, lumber, paint, additional materials, along with a crew of workers showed up in your town by rail. By horse and wagons, all the crew and materials, arrived at the home site and created your home. At my age, I only know this because a friend told me that her great-grandmother s home was made this way as a wedding present from her rich dad when she got married and moved to land newly purchased in the mid-west. He could afford to do this after helping to build the the transcontinental railroad in the 1800's. That house is still standing today.
And, ironically, many of those Sears "kits" were made regionally. Various regional sawmills were employed to shorten the train delivery system distances. My great grandfather ran one of those mills in Ohio.
I use to run a research lab. All disruptive ideas appear awkward before they become mainstream (mobile phones). And it’s normal business practice to first sell at a premium so that the business can recover its initial investment (Tesla). These guys have something. Stick built homes and buildings are ridiculously wasteful in terms of resources and time to build. Look at their shop. Perfectly clean. No waste. My only wish is for them to go vertical, build affordable housing, and expand their delivery area. Now that would be useful.
Again, Ms. Kirsten is there filming right on the cutting edge of design with technological answers for the most pressing issues of our times, affordable housing... Thank you...
Again? Have you told this to Kristen before?
What's sad, though, is that this solution is a semi-measure that works to make easier to operate within the regressive legal structure of one of the wealthiest regions of the world that has been constructed so that that the wealth of the landowner class can continue to grow dramatically, decade over decade. Further, though the build quality of the homes may be great, the overall quality is inherently lesser than a maximal solution due to size and location constraints. Additionally, as such is life in California, the true value of the structure is claimed by the existing, wealthy homeowner class.
I can't help but to see solutions like this and feel that their value only exists because of the abysmal legal structure of a state like California and NOT because they are solving an inherent problem of the world. It's solving a manufactured legal problem created by wealthy homeowners to continue to expand their great wealth at the cost of all others.
I absolutely agree. The prices quoted were far and away more expensive than any tiny home should be. This is not affordable housing, this is rich people who don't want their in-laws to sleep in the same house they do when they come over for Christmas.
@@andrewstanek3160 you sound like a socialist, you think it's to expensive go somewhere cheaper California is a huge state there are place but for some retarded reason you stay and complained or work hard and smart save for 10 year every penny and buy land. Dont expect things to be fair there will never be a utopia no matter how much you think it should.
@@Dimabuildingadventures I really like this channel, because she finds some great stories, but then the comments are always expecting to solve more than just making some alternative ways of living. ie either smaller or in repurposed spaces or abandon villages in Italy. If your only thought is COST, leave LA, go to Detroit and buy a huge house for a few thousand dollars. But then we also need to work, find purpose and fulfillment, and so it often means going into more costly areas. The internet is rapidly leveling the world in some ways, as access does not require being urban, at the same time all the high tech job are in a few spots where costs are highest. It would seem that you could code anywhere and not have to fight for spaces to build and drive and park. But Amazon put their new HQ into the most crowded and costly spot rather than a more affordable spot.
$100k for a 279 square feet glorified shed, I feel like they can do so much more with this tech
blue Ice must all be cost put back into their pockets
blue, it is L.A.
It’s LA. 100k is pocket change
@@donwarner6925 Tell that to all the homeless on skid row
Don Warner that’s not the point, the point is the value received for that 100k
With the ceiling-to-floor windows, it is absolutely beautiful.
if this is the future of housing solutions (including the cost), I see more people living in Vans and RVs.
The bespoke elements will definitely make maintenance daunting!! I would also love to hear more about the build process including gas, plumbing, etc. Neat looks though
Maintaining the windows and doors, or getting access to an electrical socket that has stopped working for some reason and needs investigating would be a nightmare.
I was thinking the same. E.g. you would need to remove the whole wall panel just to fix/replace an outlet
@@grglyzen Unless there is conduit throughout.
Grg Ng Or the panels are velcroed or magnets are used to keep them up.
Hi Kristan!
I'm a 41 year old Electrician from Toronto Ontario Canada. I have been a subscriber of yours since 2011 when I saw the
"Lego style apartment" video u made. I LOVE your content. Nobody creates videos like you.
Just wanted to say hi and tell u how much I really enjoy your channel. It's always been a treat to watch your videos. It's really opened my eyes in regards to how much or little one needs to live life.
Thank u so so much for your work.
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Hello Erick, Thank you for the note. I'm pleased that you've stuck around so long. I'm sure my style isn't for everyone, but I definitely love telling stories this way. Thanks for watching! - Kirsten
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Congrats! You've designed an unaffordable tiny home.
No, tiny homes have bed and bath.
This doesn't have either. It's a shed.
I live in a van down by the river
grizdeluxe Lol. Right!
but it looks sooooooooooooo techy cool and I could like match my iphone cover with it!!!!!
My head is spinning with application ideas! and jobs! and fun communities! and opportunities! WOW
I have electical background. Do you need on one your team?
don't worry Mary...the claustrophobic feeling of your tiny house will make it stop.
$100k? I think you are missing the idea that prefab is supposed to reduce price, not increase it.
$100K for a ZERO BED AND ZERO BATH prefab. They showed the CHEAPEST configuration possible.
That's incredibly cheap for LA though, I guess if you could find the land for it
I'm guessing that 80k is for the land and 20k for the actual tiny home.
I think it's you who is missing something. "Prefab houses are cheaper than conventionally constructed houses," said nobody ever.
@@oldrogue4247
These said nobody ever jokes are getting stale fast. Nobody ever has anything original to say anymore.
Thanks again Kirsten! Your channel is probably my #1 favorite channel in the world. Why? Because you highlight brilliant humans, doing innovative stuff to make this world a better place. You and the people doing such marvelous work is what gives me hope for humanity. This is a Happy Channel in an Unhappy World...thank you...thank you!!!
"Sleek, modern feel" = 100% Markup.
I was just at the mall in Sherman Oaks Los Angeles and there was a shipping container converted office that could be put in your backyard it was the size of a typical walk-in closet and it was marked as $50,000
Sorry correction price is starting at 50,000
Love this so much. Very sleek designs. I can imagine that families with the right properties could have these built so that their parents and/or in-laws could live in beautiful at a much less cost than senior living facilities.
I did some number crunching from the example of the structure they showed at 4:50. A 279 square foot structure without a kitchen or bath has a basic price of $99,800. Permit fees are $6400. They estimate site work to be an additional 20 to 30%. That would be a total of $121,160 to $136,140. That's around $434 to $488 a square foot.
Maybe this is viable in Los Angeles. I doubt if would be cost effective in many areas, especially with the additional higher costs of adding a kitchen and bath.
Ikr.. it's crazy expensive and crazy how many people think it's a mind blowing brilliant.
Having spent hours asking one person after another so very many questions, the software is my favorite part.
*Beautiful prefab spaces !*
I wish the roof was a bit more extended, so that the walls are protected from the rain.
There's a song called "It never rains in Southern California"....
It's funny because I live in Ohio and the houses here have no overhangs either so you can never leave the windows open for fear of rain (it rains here).
Clifford Bradford i wishhhhhhhhhh it would rain here more. Ugh god do I hate the sun
@@christina3478 You're living in the desert. Wrong city for you!
Applying this system is an instant fix to making use of space readily available on existing properties...
Cheaper options and affordable choices...happy spaces..happier people..maybe this could be applied to the homeless in LA..
A major problem that's not going away...solutions are staring us in the face.
Thank you for this one..as always great Intel.
peoples who need it can not afford this, peoples who can afford don't need this, lol
That could be said of almost everything
@@rmiles3281 Making the point less relevant how?
such a fake marketing voice trying to sound like your every-day guy. Typical problem with corporate america these days. Instead of trying to manipulate people into wanting your gimmicky faddy things you happen to want to make, why don't you try making what people actually want and truly need. Then you might not even need a marketing department! What a concept!! The problem with housing in America is that they've stopped building NORMAL SMALL HOUSES. Why does all new construction of single family homes have to be either mcMansions or nothing?? How about building some small homes on small plots but to the latest standards. Not tiny homes you can't stand up in, not containers, but just normal small houses. Any small houses are all old. Our housing stock has become old, tired and outdated, but that doesn't mean we don't need precisely those types of homes. A lot of these smaller houses have problems that modern technology could avoid, but there's one problem - they're simply not being built. Because nobody REALLY cares about your average family with an average income but that also wants their own little house, with a little private yard and an attached garage with entry into the dwelling (but not necessarily inside the dwelling). Hey, and if your child happens to be into music and an old aunt is willing to donate a baby-grand piano, you can even fit that in the living room. You need only drive through some neighborhoods in older NJ towns to see what i mean. The little neat quiet streets with neat and tidy little brick cape-codders built in the 40s and 50s. There's a feeling of neighborhood and yet privacy on these friendly side-walked streets that speak of good old-fashioned quality. We need to simply return to those times but with the latest technology. A lot of the most critical work is done preparing the site, that's where a lot of quality issues arise - from the quality of the foundation, the grading, etc. The 'prefab' part is the easy part. We don't need your techie 'design' gimmicks, we need good old fashioned common sense but built with latest technology, that's all.
@Just think I don't know what this 'zero lot line' thing is.. We have a huge country, plenty for everyone, why can't we just have small houses on little plots, say 1/4 of an acre? With normal ownership between well defined property lines. Enough for a small yard (not much grass to mow is a plus), a garage and a driveway. A sidewalk in front is always great in a neighborhood - somewhere to walk the dogs. We shouldn't strive for gimmicks, we should strive for NORMAL, just with newest technology. Technology is also about improvement, you know, not just upheaval. What is the point of constantly throwing the baby out with the bathwater and reinventing the wheel??
@Just think Yeah, and no basement. A well built and insulated basement is a great thing, especially in the colder climates. I would never buy a place with the main floor right against the cold ground, not to mention that constantly standing/walking on cement is not the best for joints. But these gimmicky solutions tend to ignore the fact that however you want to evolve technology, human beings and their anatomy do not change. We will never grow two heads with two brains to allow us to multitask, for example, (other than preemptive multitasking as in early computers), but there are those who pretend that technology is about humans changing physically, not about changing objects to make life for humans easier as they are.
Another company providing what is needed in this changing world, compact housing to suit single person or small family living in a large city, good stuff!!
I know I'm nitpicking, but all the outlets in their model units are installed crooked. If this is the level of attention to detail that they apply to their "model display", I can imagine what their production unit would look like. I mention this because he keeps emphasizing quality, but I'm not seeing it in the details.
I unfortunately have to agree. And the hole around is slightly too big.
Also the cabinets doors needs adjustments to sit nicely and the shelving system needs attention to the woodworking.
I completely agree. I also agree with corner liston that the cabinet doors are uneven. The ceiling slot is also unsightly, in my opinion, and I wonder why they haven't recessed the downlights into the ceiling panels, like most builders would. The same could easily be done with speakers and the like. I'm sad to say it, but this product appears to have been designed by someone who doesn't know what they're doing, to be brutally honest.
Amen ElectricUnicycles Amen! The whole point of investing into a tiny home is that the small surface areas mean that they ought to be well designed, finished well and made of high quality materials. It is obvious that the startup group is not really passionate about tiny homes.
not nitpicking for that price or any price... crooked is crooked... and don't let anyone con you when they say, "you should manage your expectations." ...always expect the best...
I wouldn’t normally make comments on TH-cam videos but, after reading what most had to say… you can’t possibly live in the LA area otherwise you would know, that this is a great idea!
First some quick data points.
57% of the rental property in the LA area $2000+ per month (that right more than some mortgage payments) (source - Rental Café)
$2,371 is the average rent in LA (source - Rental Café)
Los Angeles, CA Apartment Rent Ranges
• $701-$1,000 - only 1% of all rentals are in this price range
• $1,001-$1,500 - 16%
• $1,501-$2,000 - 26%
• > $2,000 - 57%
Who’s the target market. The first criteria were homes owned where zonings laws have been relaxed to allow a separate dwelling to be built on the property.
So you’re not a new home buyer…..so who are you?
You’re a current home/land owner or who has space to build a 2nd dwelling that could potentially be a rental property. And possible have low enough investment cost to create more rental in the $1000 - $1500 price point. So at 150k to install the unit would pay for its self in 8yrs assuming you charged $1500 per month.
Why go this route? Overall maybe slightly more expensive to build( not 100% sure that’s a true statement) but with all of the your permits, as well as inspections being completed on site during fabrication, Your timeframe from design to new monthly income stream, is months of ahead of schedule, without all of the potential delays that are inherent normal construction.
You aren't as bright as you try to appear.
100K for a mother-in-law house in the back yard is ridiculous when pre-fabbed container homes go for half that... and they're twice the price of what's reasonable. Two things for certain are you don't know real estate, and you don't know building.
Stunning work! I’m blown away by the company’s attention detail and efficiency. The video is very inspiring. Thank you so much for sharing it!
if you have a look at the company profile on their web page they give better guarantees than most companies. also for all the nay sayers they have a big group of engineers, mechanical engineers, construction and architect professionals as well as cad and soft ware designers. seem like a great company well put together. i suppose change is hard for some people to deal with.
well done on finding and presenting these guys on your channel Kirsten.
These really really good homes of great quality will be there after the Great Pyramid of Egypt crumbles in to dust..!!!
as an electrician i cannot express how much of a pain in the ass that receptacle being flush with the wall will be in like 8 years.
As an electrician i concur. That's not the only problem i see. Hey, let them have it lol.
At this rate the only trade skill that will exist in 8 years is demo. These housing startups (and this is far from the first) always forget that maintenance down the road is a thing, or just flat out forget that skilled tradesmen are going to be elbow deep in their product later on. Inevitably that unit will be easier to demolish and replace than it will be to repair.
@@marcuspinson We are living in a time when homes are meant to be disposable. Here in NYC, there are buildings going up with lifespans of 30 years (aluminum, gypsum, wood). Long enough for someone to pay off their $800K mortgage and then retire somewhere less harsh.
Its a trashy world my friend
@@scientifico looks like I'm gonna make some good money when it's time for those to come down. Since I'm one of the only under-30s i know who's licensed and experienced in heavy equipment operation. I'll be the one who gets to demo all of this crap. Then scrap it all.
@@marcuspinson It'll probably burn down before you get a chance to demo it.
The home idea is great but that program that helps with planning and placement is gold.
Someone ought to take these rich-hipster-in-law-suites disguised as "ultra-modern prefabs", replicate the same concept, and make actual affordable housing at a fraction of these prices. Then it'll REALLY take off.
With no bed and no bath? Not likely.
@@20alphabet Look closer, they do have bedrooms and bathrooms, even kitchens.
@@AB-pr4uc
Those can be added for a much higher cost.
@@20alphabet Either you're an employee of this "modern prefab" company or you're trolling 😂
@@AB-pr4uc
Lol, definitely not a fan of these hundred thousand dollar prefab sheds.
I used to work in Escrow. Naturally I handled a lot of escrows for builders. One builder who just so happened to be building a few houses just down the street from where I lived at that time, told me that if he buys a lot for $7,000, hires a couple guys to do all the work, his being the licensed builder can get inspectors out quickly. That particular lot he purchased for $7,000 plus the hired labor, the permits, all the appliances and building materials - the 1500 sq ft house with garage, cost him $20,000 to build. All in.
He'd sell those homes for $80 to $85,000. That was back in the '90's. Land was cheaper. Though it always matters where you purchase. It was in California. But the point is, builders USED to scale their profits on a build by 4 times what it cost them. Not anymore. Now it's SO outrageous that no one can really afford anything. Unless your an illegal alien moving 30 people in a rented house or apt ... all of them chipping in something for the rent. Which has a lot to do with the spiraling out of control cost of housing in California. Like it or not. It happens to be true. Builders and Landlords caught on and are raking it in by leaps and bounds.
These little pods ... probably run this factory 5 grand to build each, labor, materials, permits, inspections.
maybe a tiny bit more. But they sell these tiny pods for 100 grand. And the buyer buy's the land. prepares the pad the pod will be sitting on. i.e. pay for the plumbing, running the electrical, and water lines to the pod. etc. Sooo for 160 grand or so, you can all be the proud owner of a 297 sq ft closet. Maybe a little more as I noticed those plans didn't include in the cost, bathroom or kitchen. So that might be extra.
Scary stuff.
Kirsten, this is my favorite TH-cam channel! :)
I was watching some Konmari and did a thought experiment, if I only subscribed to the channels that bring me joy, which would I keep and yours was on the top of the list.
I've been following for so many years, I don't even know when I started, but you were called Fair Companies back then.
tell me what you boast about...and I'll tell you what you are lacking...or so my grandma said. .
WAY overpriced.
I love prefab! It makes it easier on permits and more affordable to build the veterans community. Good job sharing about small prefabs.
There's a reason they don't put the rollers in the door frame normally. It's called gravity. Dirt and crap will collect in there over time, causing failure. A person will have to be very diligent to maintain that track, and we all know that most people aren't diligent.
It's amazing how homes can be constructed so poorly. It's good that there's companies upping the game and actually producing durable and quality products. I find the factory related data driven management option presented here allowing for more easy planning and deployment within the community simply amazing.
These really really good homes of great quality will be there after the Great Pyramid of Egypt crumbles in to dust..!!!
This guy and his team are brilliant. We need this in NZ and this idea sold to the government which would be faster to produce than the KiwiBuild initiative.
Why government? Are u sure the government can do the designs?
Hahaha good luck with it.
Ditto above
Kiwi Bull
These guys really have it together....just great ideas that come together very well.
I see a lot of fantastic ideas and spot on theory at the expense of practicality
This is Amazing! I hope they get even more exposure because this could help so many people. I'm a single man and this would be perfect for me easy to maintenance and will cut down on so many costs including energy. Great work Gentlemen and Woman!
I can see the light of the 1 mill subscriber train coming...early congrats Kristen and Nicol`as and family...love your work.
I love their designs. Wish there was a company like this in Florida. Thanks Kirsten for posting this
There is. Their product is affordable for anyone. The name escapes me right now. He builds tiny homes and has made them panelized. Not as fancy but practical. His name is Andrew Bennett.
Wow this was amazing! Super smart idea. I only wish this video was longer and had more detailed walk throughs of the spaces.
Maybe Kristen could do a series on this?
Here's a link to a virtual tour of a 1 bedroom Cover: www.cover.build/#virtual-tour
I have been a warranty manager for a home building company. An extremely important part is that sometimes things go wrong and things must be repaired or changed. I don't see this, for example in the electrical outlets being able to be repaired or replaced. remember the automotive industry only builds vehicles to last a set number of years , but houses must last much longer and be able to be used for many more years or repaired or modified for years as people's needs change. Please give this some forethought. And make your home's a little more adaptable for the future which cannot be predicted.
Flawless builds. That's the best prefab system I think I've ever seen.
This is one of the best "pre-fab" strategies I've seen yet. As a contractor, I"ve built a few pre-fabs over the years going back to the '80s. The idea of doing most of the work indoors in factory settings has always been appealing, but the factories have to be near markets or they get 'islanded' revenue-wise.
These people have really thought about the site and the methodology, more than anything I've seen so far.
I'm about to build an energy efficient house in the desert not far from them. I've been looking for (affordable) sliding doors for years. Obviously they couldn't find them either, and had to build their own. Very good.
Fascinating, and the homes are really handsome.
I am so impressed, that for a second I considered ditching my last semester of Human Services (and grad school plans for Clinical Mental Health Counseling) to go back to design school and end up working for you guys. I will probably do the next close thing and just purchase a package at some point.
Great developed in so many ways. I hope this company takes off.
@Just think I don't know if I agree there. I think there is huge benefit in the way they handle the process of planning and manufacturing. That's what I admired about it.
As for student debt, I have none.
California has some really smart and creative people !! :)
yes... they all rich ...living in large compounds.!!!
True! Maybe on a future video
she'll locate one. So far, no luck.
Kirsten your channel is just THE BEST!!! XOX from Ireland
Super beautiful and clean but ridiculously priced. This concept won’t take off until it is truly within reach.
Do you know what the price range is?
These guys are amazing. We've had them over in the past and their process is super impressive. I suggest all to get in touch if you have any worries/complaints: they are really open to constructive criticism. It would be great if we can all help -them or whoever- achieve this ideal of construction instead of keeping this information online.
lol those electrical outlets look like repressed faces. "wtf am I doing in this walllllllllll?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Smiley faces.😁
Innovative ideas. Small space and prefab design has fascinated me for some time.
Beautiful, functional, and as always out of reach for the working class.
Not to mention working class with a few kids and a dog. And where do you store all the bikes?
I like the talking guy he's awesome! such a good tone, act, explanation..
Interesting to see some innovation in prefab buildings as a result of the change in Californian law and also the harnessing of big data - in this case the aggregating of data from several sites to help in the design process.
I used to file grants based upon federal program. I filed with ten cities in riverside County I had to threaten a lawsuit for them to accept and fund the project. All ten grants were identical only used MS word to change the city name. That is why the local exemption by state statute allows placement of ADU units or other uses nimbly excuse. Cathedral city CA wanted to put low income property outside city limits. They got a bill thru state legislature but vetoed by governor in q990's. Ninby
@@robertjackson4121 NIMBYism is a terrible problem we regularly have it in sections of our town, Bielefeld in Germany. Not In My BackYard is often a response to the fear of the unknown than the reality.
@@johncrwarner the only thing worse is a HOA rules. In Indian country of 50,000,000 acres is $250 billion of mismanagement by the Bureau of Indian affairs. The case was US v. cobalt 26 court cases and settlement of $1.5 billion. I have a hearing about mis management of my forest land Tommrow. Improper road cost impact China export market Canadian softwood exchange rates and polosie says no NAFTA 2.0 vote this year that has caused 50% cut in log prices today.
A charge of $68,000 for temp road cost . The bia is my trust officer
Kirsten, lately your videos are coming across my desk and my monitor more often. I enjoy them a lot. All of them are quality videos with a quality message. I get a lot out of them. Thank you..
Thank you Alan. Very nice to hear. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
These are basically "throw-away" homes like cheap computers.
At $300-400 per sq foot... No one will be throwing these away
This is very forward thinking, offering honest buildings for people not corporations, showing the best side of architecture.
Love the cinematography of your videos!
Oh wow, I was just about to comment the opposite. I loved the content, but thought that she should hire some help with the production value. It looks very amateur to me.. awkward drone footage, unsteady hands, etc
Costly process but they seem to be on the right track and there will be a demand for it in the near future, no questions. The sliding door system & windows are awesome. Designing your own window system is costly with all the testings and very similar to another high end system. He also brought up a very good point with the slow process with any city and they are taking care of it with innovations. The only downside is the overhead. Administration, Marketing, Fabrication, Installation.... Great work :)
No shade over the windows (like eaves or louvres etc). Doesn't look like good passive thermal design for summer.
Especially in California
@@jmk1962 These designs are heavily flawed! example: flush floor to ceiling windows can work. reversing a track/roller door system to have rollers on the bottom says failure. The value of this company is not how they build homes, it is in the software used in the site identification process! that is cool.
It doesn't matter how expensive it is as long as your happy to live in your dream home Its a fulfillment and satisfaction. Enjoy each momment we live everday and we die once.
The smaller ones just look like glass boxes, they look like they would get hot real fast, but the larger designs look nice. All those unique fittings and features means that long-term maintenance will be a nightmare. You better hope this company is still going if you ever have a problem with one of those windows or doors. The average builder won't know where to begin, which translates to expensive.
Barn Star - The panels did appear to include significant insulation and the windows obviously were double-panes plus state/county/city codes do have minimum insulation requirements.
@@wendyweaver8749- Many prefabs are using triple glazing now, for energy efficiency.
very interesting concept. As an architecture student I find this extremely relevant!
999 K, the big million is right around the corner!
16 hours later: 1,000,071 subs!
It's showing 1,000,072 now ! Congrats Kirsten and family !!
I want this in UK & Australia! This is company is amazing!
Only innovation they claim is smaller wall sockets and floor to ceiling windows 😂
The best thing of this house is the pretty model they used for walking out of it. For non technical people who love design, this factory maybe gives a nice feeling. I guess experienced technical people are seeing mainly a lot of potential problems when the 'house' is around for a little longer.
Congrats on the million subs! I'm very excited about this company.
Very interesting design. Although I'm afraid for many people it may be a little too "cold". But if this idea helps cities to get more affordable housing its great! Most big property development companies in europe are already building prefabricated houses or use modular systems. But this is great for very small lots. And I really like their website and all the data they assembled for potential customers.
I love this!! Greetings from Australia!!
5PM, of course u beat everyone else
@@maverickmadison7392 Only by seconds ......its the first time I've commented on this channel, have a Great day, Sir.
@@Westguy66 Albury-Wodonga
So very nice to see, I am actually in Spain now, after living all my life in irvine, and Pasadena, California. I experienced the huge change this state has had.
Remember years ago it was actually a paradise, not so many people, companies offering great jobs, the cost of a three bedroom wonderful home=250.000!!! And the parking, commuting, just overall living was a dream!
Now the traffic is constant at all hours-over population, pollution, stress, job opportunity, crime rate, cost of living is ridiculous!
Don't get me wrong, even though California has changed so much, I still miss my stomping grounds...
European living is ok but no one can save you from the culture shock lol.
California, still such a special place...
Thx for the information in this video, great stuff!! :-) :-)
Houses are not really that expensive to build. It is the land that is expensive.
@@nateman10 You are absolutely right about that.
I just want to say that I absolutely love this! I love that they have a way to check on city ordinances!
Okay they're beautiful and efficient, but still expensive. Plus, they mention a "Lego like" assembly wth floor to ceiling glass in L.A. These materials are super heavy. I'm curious to know what would happen in a 6,7, or 8.0 earthquake.
Depends on how the structure behaves in a shakeout. If I'm not mistaken; stickbuild is one of the best performing structure types in an earthquake. It sounds to me like this is similar but instead of nails and 2 by 4s we're dealing with precut pieces bolted together.
So I guess it depends on how they engineered the joints. My thinking would be that these are possible points of failure but these are guys with degrees and I'm a layman so I'd hope they'd expect that and put some pretty fatass connectors between their modules.
It would collapse like a 'house of cards'.
lego like means you're buying into the concept totally. Could you for example add on something that's not part of the lego paradigm? Somebody here compared this concept to a car, how you can only replace the door in whole and only with the manufacturer's parts etc. But cars and houses are two different things. Cars are not meant to last forever because they have mechanical parts. Otherwise they wouldn't be component-oriented. Just imagine you bought a Prius, and then one day they just stop making Priuses. Unfortunate for many, but not the end of the world, because cars are short-lived single-use entities by definition, at least conventionally. Houses can and should last almost forever and should not be dependent on one manufacturer. If the manufacturer goes out of business you're stuck?? That's pretty funny. They should be built to a strict code, but with complete freedom to remold into the future. And what we need a lot more of is not tiny houses, not containers, not these stupid gimmicks, but normal SMALL single family houses. Like the little brick cape-codders they built in the 40s and 50s, but with modern technology in all materials, that's all. Pluggable large-scale components is always a very tempting concept, but it rarely works as imagined and not for all applications. Why, because of the very progress that conceives them. By the time you're up for the replacement of a part, they've stopped making it and supporting it, or company's gone out of business and something new has come along. Paradoxically the overly revved up speed of progress lately is the very thing that makes this approach impractical. ESPECIALLY in houses LOL
@@crassirus Please.. they're a startup. They're out to make money, not earthquake proof dwellings.
@@Kay-tc3go Then it wouldnt pass engineering and city inspection.
If they could figure out how to hide the seams in the celling and on the walls it would look sooooo much cleaner.
So to change an outlet you change all the wall?
great idea, looks like it would be easily adapted to an accessible home too
It would need to be bigger, depending on whether you're a wheelchair user, and what equipment you need because of that.
Everything is so high tech these days but notice at 5:01 the old trusty ol skool fan
На этом производстве нет ни какого high tech кроме mac, оборудование старое, даже по российским меркам, очередная попытка продать дешёвый товар за большие деньги
Looks to me like a modern brand new cutting-edge iFan 7-11 Plus.
For all the complainers: when he said "there's a need for more housing," that doesn't have to refer to low-cost housing. This is certainly a luxury item, and they shouldn't be ashamed of it. Storage containers are 1,500 bucks and can be decked out nicely for half this cost. Why can't both solutions exist?
I'll bet these "cheaper to make homes"' are at least three times as expensive as a 2x4 house. (Efficiency replaced by the usual greed.)
Controlling the environment the building is made in isn’t such a bad thing. I remember when houses were built in the summer time or at least got to the dried in stage when it was dry out. Now they are throwing them up in the rain and snow. That can’t be good for the materials being used or the people who eventually have to live in a house with mold.
@Tribulation Prepper - Depends what you''re comparing to... Houses aren't all built to the same standards so they're not all going to cost the same.
There's a big difference from how say a Tract Home is built from how a custom high end home is built. Just like there's a big difference a luxury yacht and a Shanty Boat...
Everything has a cost/benefit/trade-off to consider but anything involving choices means a lot of the costs will be down to people's choices...
Like an analogy would be going to a car dealership and telling them you want a Lamborghini with all the optional features vs asking for a Honda Civic with base package, there's going to be a very large difference in the price they're going to quote you...
Really, want a low cost home then don't choose high end features like floor to ceiling sliding glass doors, custom cabinetry, smart home automation, radiant floor heating, high end fixtures and appliances, custom furniture, etc.
Nor try to live in a part of the country where you'd need a house built to handle weather and climate extremes that a basic house wouldn't be able to handle... Among other things to avoid that can add cost to a home...
Builders can only do so much to limit costs but end of the day, they're in the business of providing their customers what they want...
Custom builders like this one will actually have a range of prices because not all of their customers will order the same configuration for their homes.
@@ZeoCyberG Hey Willis... I understand (FAB), Features, Advantages and Benefits. My comment was prompted by what this builder said at the very end of this video, around the 11:30 mark as well as by what some other "pre-fab" builders have touted in other videos when they claim a cost savings for their Model T type, assembly line, home production process. Henry Ford's efforts made automobiles publicly affordable. I don't see the same result where this new breed of snap it together home builders is concerned. As with tiny houses, the price per square foot for these Lego Homes is absolutely outrageous as nice as they may be. With the US economy on the verge of collapse, ANOTHER real estate bubble being readied to burst and new generations of jobless college grads on the way, there is no future for these overpriced boxes. Just my opinion. Take care.
@Tribulation Prepper - "No future" is what they've said about many things, including Ford's Model T when it first came out...
Here's the thing, the cost savings are real. The problem is the market they're in demands high end products and it'll take more than reducing the production costs to over come what high end adds to the costs.
But apply the same production to a more basic design and they can sell it for a lot less...
A lot of the problem is most of the people with the money to buy homes don't want anything they will perceive as low end and even when they do they have to worry about their neighbors, etc. making their life hell for making that choice.
There's companies like Incredible Tiny Homes that have starting prices at $25K but most of their customers don't buy those models in anywhere near the numbers needed to make that a good business model to rely on for them... It's a supply and demand market and builders can't sell what there isn't an enough demand for or they'll just go out of business, which many have already.
While those with little money are often in the position they can't even afford the low cost homes but even then most still seek high end because that is what they expect to have with a home or somehow it's no longer worth it...
There's too much of a perception that low cost = dump/trash/slums... and too many people who think having less = suffering and dehumanizing...
Like Jay Shaffer recently showed off a modular design that can start with a very basic core unit for under $5K as a starting point that could at least get people into a better situation who would otherwise be homeless that they can build from and add to over time but it still gets criticized for being too small, too basic, not being a "real" house, too reliant on shared resources to get started, etc.
People in our society have forgotten how houses used to be built when most people did it themselves and build homes over generations. It has to be all or nothing, even if they're open to alternative lifestyle choices like living off-grid, which not all are and is yet another barrier to getting costs lower...
So it's not a situation you can expect just the builders to fix because they can't. Society and pretty much the entire housing system has to radically change from how it works now. We have to end NiMBY'ism, reduce consumerism, and the other barriers to getting more practical solutions out and actually used.
Nice work. The units look so incredible because they're so high quality and unique. Thanks for the help guys
If you build home with literal legos it will be more durable and cost less :)
But it's LA...
p.s. 11:31 prefab tech startup from LA can't even provide good air conditioning for their employees. Fans FTW!
This: "But it's LA" excuse is nonsense. With Amazon standing by, there are no excuses for a lower price.
I think you need to scale back on all the nice CNC detailing and offer a
Everyone should watch this video about the company called 'Cover.' It is very uplifting! June 2019
California state should purchase hundreds of these for the homeless living on the streets of LA and SF. The sidewalks are large enough to handle them end to end.
Cool homes, but 99k for 280sqft? ripoff. Don't even need to visit their site to know that's not worth it.
Especially since it cost must less to make since you don't need as much human labor.
Lol dang right it is... Funny thing is anything under 300 sqft doesn't require an architect to sign off so imagine the testing on these buildings
They clearly have growing pains to go through; i mean they have like 2 cnc machines and 10 employees. They're prototyping with machining but not really mass producing. They need those designers but they should really have 20 cnc cutters poping this shit out round the clock. For LA I'm sure it's a great deal for what it is.
Tachyon Electrics your last sentence contradicts everything else you said.
@@tachyonelectrics898 you can bet they're cutting every corner they possibly can on quality, and you can bet their employees are overstressed and overworked.
The main problem I see with these designs, aside from the unjustified price for self-advertised flat-pack low-cost homes, is the overuse of VOC-rich materials like laminated particleboard. Sure, it's easy and precise to work with it on CNC, but you're practically living in a laminate closet, and they were never meant for that. VOC-level grading is considered with a moderate material density in mind. Meaning that safe VOC levels are often at the upper limit in real world conditions, if not above it, because people tend to use too much flat-pack furniture and other products with "safe" VOC-levels. But all those "safe" levels add up and they have a compound effect on the body. Not to mention VOC is a wide range of chemicals, one worse than the next.
It's all good but these white panels make the inside look like an office space.
That is wonderful & beautiful! You should highly train more teams so you can put a team & a prefab unit on a truck & send them off around the country to build them. People are desperate for these workspaces, homes & jobs. Thank you for your creativity!
Some of the ideas are not practical. Rollers in the tracks will become clogged with dirt / debris over time. Electrical outlets have plates so it is easier to replace if you have a short or burnout as well as an isolation switch. This would not pass building codes in my country.
California has some of the most stringent building codes in the world. I agree about replacement ease, but not safety.
Fantastic architecture interior design and planning prefabrication Homes
I think EVERY COMMET misses the point of what these jackasses are doing - their true product is the data driven software. They are not home builders, though they think they are because they designed software that aggregates data sources and builds a land use/compliance model for properties in the Los Angeles area. I have no doubt that their real business plan is to design and sell the algorithm in as many municipalities as possible. Building these boxes with their new CNC machine is just a revenue stream to support the software development.
I totally see that and agree with you. This is a long play on their part. Clever bastards. But they do need to worry about protecting that Intellectual property because anyone can source data. I can see a competitor easily coming in, learning from their mistakes and building a better mouse trap, so to speak -- the same way the guy in the video did after he left that pre-fab company he once worked for.
who gives a shit about the software? I can build that pos for 1/3 of the cost in most likely the same amount of time.
Bingo
Agreed.
I would love to have one of these as a vacation home in Gatlinburg, TN.
These are very aesthetically beautiful to look at and very funtional and all of that, I like the large windows but I would want them to be the type of glass that allows view out from the inside, but will not allow anyone to see in from the outside and yet still allow all of the sunlight to come through!!!
And I guess for California those prices might be okay, but they would never make it in central southern states like Oklahoma, except maybe in OKC or Tulsa maybe, but even there it would be iffy!!!! Great video though!!!
And great builds, they are just too pricey in my opinion especially if going to be building a lot of them the cost should come way down because you would be getting all of the stuff in bulk repeatedly which should bring initial costs way down, which should translate to the customers!!!
It is thoughtfully designed and well built - you cant fault them on that. This is actually a small price to pay for so much innovation and quality.
Jaw-dropping outstanding. Look...at...that. Brilliant.
These type of construction cant get here fast enough. It is crazy to think in the US how housing still executing in the same model as 100 years ago. This process will drive a ton of innovation and quality and efficiency that is badly lacking
Dont believe everything you see in a video they a re missing alot of things this is good for the area and for one or two people sleeping In it that's all. This won't work in many areas of the country and it's a fansy shed!
Umm this has been done for decades. New trick old idea. 20k sliding door? You need a new vendor.
Sweeden is already doing this at a level beyond this by a 100 times. We should model them and build from there.
I wonder about air leakage between the panels... Also, how do they water proof the roof?
Also the connection and sealing system is my main interest. Unfortunately they dont provide much details about this. I do think that they add a waterproof membrane that covers all off the panels
this is so sleek, i would love to see this become more of a thing.