Piano masterclass with Murray Perahia / JMC 2022 / Yoav Roth / Chopin: Ballade No. 1
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- Murray Perahia Summer Course for Outsdanding Young Pianists the Jerusalem Music Centre, 2021
JMC Piano Program
The JMC Piano Program was established by JMC President Murray Perahia, for the purpose of helping to develop Israel’s most talented young pianists between the ages of 12 and 18, educating them and fostering a set of musical and artistic values that will accompany them throughout their lives.
Participants are selected as a result of a nationwide scouting process, participating in a series of educational activities that run throughout the year. These include masterclasses with Mr. Perahia and other leading pianists from throughout the world at the JMC, weekly instruction in chamber music playing (piano trios, quartets, quintets, sonatas for piano and violin, etc.), weekly classes in keyboard harmony, counterpoint and improvisation, intensive residential weekends and courses, and performance opportunities at the JMC and elsewhere.
In order to do the best we can for our participants, we must also support their teachers, with whom they meet and work on a weekly basis. For that reason, the program also includes support for Israeli piano teachers, through special masterclasses and seminars designed to support and promote their pedagogical and musical development. To this end the program also includes master classes and seminars built in a way that will encourage and enhance its pedagogical and musical abilities.
The objective of the program is quite simply to give our young pianists the very best musical education available anywhere in the world, and to do so regardless of the participant’s financial means or place of residence. - เพลง
I read a comment that the "student" playing wasn't "good enough" to be playing for Mr. Perahia? That is absolutely ridiculous. He's an excellent pianist and deserves this coaching. A student should always be encouraged and and given respect. As a coach, you never know what impact you will have on a student. One great interaction can turn someone around. The impact can be incredible, inspiring, and life-changing.
Well said!
Perahia makes money from spouting very colourful bullshit. He does know what he is talking about somewhat but yet he has the privilege of telling very talented musicians how to play. I will always be against these non-humble *sshole* who feel they know the music better than anyone else. I disagree with any supposed masterclass,
Besides that his playing is actually great, and I'm saying that as someone who is even very critical of many concert pianists he's seen. Of course his not yet there to be a concert pianist, but that's why he's getting a masterclass like this, that's why he's in school
The student responds very quickly to Perahia’s suggestions. Murray Penrahia is not going to waste his time with somebody who’s not ready for him.
The young pianist is superb and Murray Perahia is amazing: it's like a young Harry Potter getting lessons from Professor Dumbledore...
Student is so musical, so touching..such a good pair
Man he is tough Mr Perahia. But you can see his mastery working on perfecting the student performance. He recorded one of the best Ballades ever in my opinion. This is golden!
Again such a wise and a good apprehension. So so so much genius in mr perahia… how could anyone ever be able to study w him without in some form approach his huge talent
But he's polite
Some pianist can't be teachers. Being a teacher is an art form on itself. As talented as Mr Perahia I find him rather impatient. Or maybe it's age? Anyways only top level pianist can endure class at the level of response he demands.
@@christianjimenez2551 You nailed it, he is far too good for this student which is below mediocre.
@@Paroles_et_Musiquebelow mediocre??
❤ OMG 18:59 The way the maestro played that section moved me to tears. And he was just demonstrating. Wow. Thank you. I needed it. I really wanted him to go on!
Oh, yes.! ❤
It’s a privilege to have the benefit of Murray Perahia’s immense musicianship and insight, further illuminating the brilliance on one of the greatest masterpieces for piano.
I don’t know how he managed to make the sounds as if he was playing a different instrument, the French suites he played is just heaven
Epic. What an honor to be instructed by such a master.
What a great teacher and a brilliant student , thank you
he has the most poetry and promise of the pianists ive seen on this series
All Chopin's waltzes and etudes played by Murray Perahia is outstanding.
He plays so beautifully man. I feel a lot emotion when he plays
Cette œuvre est géniale de toute beauté. C'est un régal de la jouer et de l'écouter si bien jouée par cet étudiant !
👍👍👍👍👍🥰🥰
THIS TEACHER IS THE BEST
He and Andras Schiff are the best.
Back to watching and listening to Horowitz recordings from his 60's and 70's.
Such impactful teaching. Reminds me of the very exhausting but meaningful hour lessons. Very responsive pupil. Kudos.
Would love to have seen Horowitz give a masterclass on this Chopin ballade. The G minor was Horowitz' signature piece to perform. He brought such depth and beauty to his performance like no other.
I read a funny interview with Byron Janis long ago, which led me to believe that Horowitz may not have been so great as a teacher.
Incredible!
So great!
Que maravilloso alumno. Que extraordinario profesor. Que sana envidia siento por vuestro inmenso talento. Os estoy infinitamente agradecido.
Mister Perahia perfect instruction 100%
Thank you so much for sharing this! Important harmonic elucidation and very inspiring lecture! Todah rabah
amazing video
I love that your feelings are in that piece, and also that you habe a great teacher. I can only say 👏 👏👏👏
YES! Bravi! What an amazing master class! Mr. Perahia is a superlative musician and master coach. ❤
His playing is beautiful
I liked it but that was exhausting to watch. Don't know how the student kept his focus so well under this nervous onslaught of commands. He deserves a vacation.
Such is Master Class! 🤣
Yes, but that's the challenge of Master Class: you work your tail off to perform your very best to a master teacher in front of an audience, and then get challenged to grow even more. It's sometimes humiliating, but for the well-prepared, inspiring and life-changing.. I LOVED participating in master classes, knowing that I'd get challenged over everything I thought I knew about a piece, trusting that with the right master teacher I'd get stretched and grow as a musician. You play, you keep your mouth shut, you follow directions to the best of your ability. That is Master Class. The student here was a perfect candidate for Master Class and presented himself admirably. I love the idea of a Master Class vacation to unwind, though!
A brilliant, brilliant teacher 😁
❤❤❤
Mr PERAHIA has absolutely right!! Here is Vienna school prof GRAF. KOL AKAVOD YOHAV AND HIS PROF !!
French Suites played by Perahia is outstanding, exquisite on so many levels!
예전에 맘에 드는 발라드 1번을 찾아 한참동안 헤맨 적이 있었다. 명연주는 많았지만 내가 마음 속에 그리는대로 연주하는 사람은 없었는데 어느날 페라이어의 연주를 듣고 내가 원하는 바로 그 연주라는 생각을 했다. 그 때의 기쁨이 여전히 생생히 기억난다.
Most inspiring. Always, Murray Perahia is an inspiration. These students are extremely gifted. Todah Rabah.
bravissimo.¨!!!!!!!
15:04 And in my experience music is a LOT easier to memorize once you get what MP is saying here (15:21 to 15:37): less data, more music.
A great lesson.
I'heard Mr Perahia in Salzburg before 28 years with a program playing Mozart and Mendelssohn.
Everything he is teaching here is wonderful.
In my opinion I see the same articulation everywhere on the right hand to this talented pianist and maybe a little problem of stiffness in general. The good think is that he is doing difference in-between the ideas.
He could seat a little bit more far from the keyboard to have more control with his right hand. The legato's are always near to the keys even in separate phrases.
Yet a very good musician with great reflex.
The younger pianists needs an answer about rubato in Chopin.No,it is not an improvisation and there is always a reason to make rubato.
Thank You!
You give great insights! Mr. Perahia is very focused on how the notes and harmonies relate to each other to create a musical story, but like you, I also find myself looking at the physicality of piano playing. Note how the student's appoggiaturas became successful once he relaxed his shoulder and elbow (22:20). My own playing became transformed when I noticed Mr. Perahia playing with a slightly open mouth (in his younger years) and relaxed jaw. Once I focused on that, I found my neck and shoulders needed to relax....then elbows, then wrists...which led to a richer, more powerful tone and far more expressive choices. There is so much to learn, on so many levels: intellectual, emotional, and physical. Your comment on seating is brilliant. Playing the piano is so difficult but so, so beautiful. Kudos to the young man who offered the class a great learning experience, and my deep appreciation for posting this masterclass for us all to learn from and enjoy.
As much as i respect Perahia’s musicianship and mastery i’d argue that Rubinsteins Masterclass on this piece is unmatched. Id suggest to the all of the commentators to go and check Rubinstein Masterclass on this piece.
Das werde ich tun 👍
This is like being taught cardiac surgery by Dr. DeBakey...the best taught by the best. Bravo! Keep celebrating the finest in human achievements. Mastering the piano is so difficult and requires so much passion and dedication; the results it yields are mesmerizing.
I love Perahia. My fave CD is a compilation of Beethoven, Schumann and Rachmoninov. I love his Mozart piano concertos as well as they're very well recorded and the tempos not crazy fast like today's recordings. However I don't think he recorded this Ballade
He recorded all four. I'm not sure if they're still in print?
You can find it in streaming services.
Zimerman's, his ballades and 2010 Brahm's album are among my favorites.
Boy Perahia is a hardcore Schenkerian! And not playing around about it either lol
I remember a master class he gave over a decade ago, where audience mostly consisted of local piano teachers. The audience was SO lost by what he was saying about a Rachmaninov prelude. Someone had the courage to ask for a reference to learn more about Schenkerism, and Mr. Perahia suggested "Beyond Schenkerism". I ordered the book and only made it to about p.32 before falling over in a coma of confusion and boredom. 🤣 Maybe it's time to try it again, using this master class as an example. I have a better understanding of what he is saying with this beloved Ballade.
Perahia is correct in putting this piece in historial Polish context.
As a simple listener...I think at the Bravo Yoav...and the tension and emotion he must have experienced playing in front of Mr Perahia ! It reminded me of Callas Masterclasses...Whenever she was singing in order to show to the Pupils....You were taken ..to Another World !
I’m glad he mentioned Czerny. If Czerny was good enough for so many of the 19th century masters he should be good enough for today. Boring yes but effective
Mastery explanation.
quite tense
he certainly doesnt waste time with undue praise 😀
Why were there several cuts in the masterclass video?
This piece is all about feeling the tragedy in it.
Yes indeed, but they neither feel nor speak the tragedy of this remarkable music.
Thi young man does it fully as good as Stanislav Neuhaus!
Oh! I would feel as if Mr.Perahia is talking with keyboard by his 10 fingers combinations.is sound like mouth, lip, teeth, tongue. that is not concerned with keyboard action. That's the physical Word. (90yrs.Japanese)
Tis student played one of the most gorgeously phrased ,every note a different dynamic ,gorgeous dynamic shapes and voiced gminor ballades I have ever heard the AMajor section was bereft of grandiosit and Chopin in AMajor always has Sunshine and energy while he played it much as he was already playing too slow not Noble enough 9but maturity and grandiosity will come ! Now go listen to Hofmann,Moiewitsch,Freire,Horowitz,Rubinstein and al the rest .There is so much for all of usstudents to learn. Did Gilels or Richter record these ballades . Time to go find out ?
Is he still performing concerts?
I believe he has retired from the stage because of nerves.I may be wrong
@@simples244 I have read that he has serious back pain which prevents traveling. Check out his performance of Mozart's c minor concerto from a year ago here on TH-cam: he could barely bow because he was in obvious pain.
😢 I’ve been wondering why he stopped. His website hasn’t been updated in years. Thank you for sharing. I’m so disappointed I will never get to see him perform live. I’m heart broken. 💔 He is the best pianist alive. IMO
25:31
Great stuff. But who taught Perahia to find the real meaning in the music, or was he a natural. The student must wonder what he’s missing even though he is a fine pianist himself. It takes a lot of concentration to distinguish the subtleties. It’s exhausting but necessary.
Talent + training. Perahia was a prodigious young pianist who worked with some truly great musicians as a young man (Horszowski, Schacter, Salzer, Bamberger, Serkin, Casals, Horowitz, Britten, etc.)
Perahia was a pupil of the great Mieczyslaw Horszowski.
Both he and his brother are brainiacs. He was the artistic, intellectual one, his younger brother the engineering genius.
This documentary was fantastic. Got to know a lot about him.
th-cam.com/video/iSeD0onabnw/w-d-xo.html
I have bought serious amounts of recordings by Perahia and e.g. Schiff. When I heard Schiff play a sonata by Van Beethoven, it resonated with me and so I thought "this man understands that music". Yes, I'm sarcastic about myself here. But it's what happened.
At some point I heard Schiff's lectures on the Van Beethoven sonatas and I got really disappointed because he did not rise above chords, the pianistic details rather than the overall, etc..
With a Chopin Ballade, I can get easily disappointed in the same way. You see, a "ballad(e)" is 1- a dance, 2- a lyrical song, 3- an epic prose. For a composer to call a piece of music "ballad(e)" is meaningful, especially when we know who his friends were in other fields of art and the culture of his motherland (his father was really French and "Chopin" actually may just have been "chaud pain" (warm bread) ).
To me it seems that this Ballade #1 actually rotates between these three meanings - buit then the interpretation is in "which part is which of these three".
Before we can start a debate about how to play the chords or themes, we must confess to our understanding of this musical storytelling that should precede our interpretation.
So I'm leaving class at 10:35
not many can touch MP as a master teacher, except maybe Andras Schiff
from what i can discern, Schiff is the better teacher though both impart equally invaluable information.
The student was maybe nervous, but you can hear from the first few bars, he doesn’t phrase well and his playing is full of odd accents, slightly stiff and mechanical. I do find Perahia a bit overwhelming with details, perhaps he could just have made the student a bit more comfortable but he is totally right,
It seems impossible to simply transfer such profound musical understanding to a young person.
I thought his runs were good before he was advised to look at Czerny's high wrist approach .And got to wonder how other pianists approach the runs in this respect. One conflicting example is Horowitz here from after 8minutes
th-cam.com/video/18620H_z8Uk/w-d-xo.html.
Thank you for posting this linkI This amazing performance brought me to tears. I've never heard this Ballade presented so beautifully, so musically logical, and so brilliantly. Thank you!
I noticed that Horowitz sits close to the keyboard, his wrists are higher than his elbows, and he has HUGE hands that can fly through octave passages. His shoulders, elbows, and wrists are always fluid and relaxed, and I suspect this is the key to a brilliant technique. With my small hands I need to sit further back in order to achieve that same relaxation....for me, the lesson learned: there is a huge variation in human anatomy, and everyone needs to figure out what works best for themselves. Murray Perahia can knock off an octave passage using 1-3,4.5. He's using what works for him. It's not a universal solution. One of the wisest teachers I ever knew, when asked about a technical question, always had the same answer: "Well, it depends...." then went on to offer the complexities. So it is with technique, I think.
Peculiar to see M.P. fixated on looking at the score.....😢
MP style is ok, but he doesn’t always make clear why he’s suggesting things and doesn’t really get the most out of this student. He’s also somewhat cold and makes no connection with the student.
Wow, so much muscular tension in the whole body of that young pianist. It hurts to watch !
You raise an interesting point. I kind of noticed this kid seems to be in pretty good physical shape. Do you think something like weightlifting could have a negative effect on performance?
Why do students insist on playing works that are beyond their reach? And why do the 'teachers' permit this?
I think be out of your comfort zone is how one grows. This is a masterclass not a public performance.
first playing is very overrrrr
This piano need tuning
I thought the piano was crap. What's with the cheap piano-building going on these days??? My baby is a 1910 Mason Hamlin rebuilt by Ed McMorrow in Seattle, whom Murray Perahia has expressed admiration for in one of his master classes there. Great craftsmen piano builders are truly rare.
Why is nobody calling out Murray for mostly a pathetic critique? It almost patronising as if he has access to a sound world nobody else possesses.
Its true. In the world of music everyone has their say. Its almost like criticising someones accent. These masterclasses are becoming a joke with one pianist who is extremely talented to be told hes making mistakes on the judgement of a 'master'.
Jesus. I'm afraid to say I disagree with master Perahia on the long phrases
Of course, anyone can disagree, but all he's doing is pointing out the harmonic structure of the phrases which was fragmented in the beginning. There were too many notes brought out so it wasn't clear what the line was.
He's absolutely right about the long line. The problem is, the young performer kept interpreting that to mean he must rush through the phrase. Knowing where you are going, while also enjoying the view is a big challenge for performers. Particularly when one is nervous.
@@bsmusicd I didn’t know where I was going till I was fifty 😂
What a treat! have been to Mr Perahia concerts many years ago in London
lol, you are a beginner pianist and already disagreeing with one of the best pianists in the world. That promises.
While he is a great pianist (but his Chopin is not among the best by any means), his discontent and irritated approach to the student is not very constructive. Compare him to Katsaris or Bolet, Zimerman or Rubinstein, you will understand what I mean. Perahia is a bad motivator. To know something and to TEACH something are clearly different things.
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Normal to make this face ?... Strange
So you‘re listening to an interpretation, but your critics are on his face? Very strange
@@maxwagner3181 yes very strange face. First Time i see sombdy making that
@@AD-qq3ol Normal "I'm doing something difficult which requires a lot of focus from my brain" face
Close your eyes…the only way to find out. You’ll focus on your ears and on the sound. Because actually you aren’t not really listening.
Too many faces and too little vigor in my opinion.
Perahia - a great Pianist, but a pretty humorless teacher.
You make a good point: Mr. Perahia's approach to musicianship won't work for everyone: he doesn't coddle, joke, or make the subject feel good about their work. His total focus is on musical growth. His talents are best given to pianists who intensely want to learn, and willing to expose themselves to demanding challenges, Mr. Perahia offers pure gold. He has an intellect that challenges aspiring pianists to dig deep to offer more of their technique, intellect, and devotion.
It's just interpretation man jeez, let the kid play as he feels it, I'm fine with showing alternatives but I prefer to allow the pianist their own favorite interpretation
No! The student plays as instructed by the master. Later, the student can perform his personal interpretation. I remember when music teachers kept a thick ruler in hand to rap the knuckles of a recalcitrant student. If anything, the master here is overly nice.
@@Oldman808 You forget yourself and have too large an ego, the 'Master' is simply a pianist and should only offer as much as the 'Student' is willing to take. It looks like the student didn't mind here but if my previous teachers were to try and engulf me in their own fragile egos I'd take their teachings that I did respect and throw away the rest. You can only convince and show your own way, there is no enforcement of thick rulers in hand anymore, that is a backwards way of teaching...
But the point of this event is to be provided criticism. That's why the pianist turned up and performed.
@@EEDWAARD hence why I said the student looks to want it so no issue.
The reason for applying to participate in a master class is to subject oneself to growth, however painful it may be. The point is to learn by a master teacher while under public scrutiny. It is a stress test. The "student" has taken the work as far as one can, then takes that special step to make oneself vulnerable to growth under a master teacher in a public setting. That is a master class. It is brutal, brilliant, and transformative at its best.