Mythologist Devdutt Pattanaik & Historian Sanjeev Sanyal Share Their Perspectives On India Vs Bharat

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  • @chanduji2855
    @chanduji2855 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    1) "Brahmin controlled history"
    2) "Aryan came from outside"
    3) "horses came from outside"
    4) "Sita was kept inside house "
    5) "we hate plurality for purity"
    This pattnaik guy is killing me now 😀

    • @harishkiran3663
      @harishkiran3663 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      When pappu becomes a writer, we get DP😂🤣

    • @deshbhaktstri
      @deshbhaktstri ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And malech means dirty, chota😂 in reality malech means outsider 😊

    • @FnmsF
      @FnmsF ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@deshbhaktstri any foreigner that stood outside the caste system and the ritual ambience. courtesy wiki. so any one out the higher caste is referred as malecha in the brahminical world order.

    • @ashishcodanda6572
      @ashishcodanda6572 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🎯✅️🤷

    • @harishkiran3663
      @harishkiran3663 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deshbhaktstri Mlecha means one who is without Dharma.

  • @anand1311
    @anand1311 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Wow.. heard Devdutt Pattanaik sir for the first time!!
    He's brilliantly PATHETIC! 🎉👏

    • @Arthur-od9wz
      @Arthur-od9wz ปีที่แล้ว +11

      u got us on the first half not gonna lie🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @CaptSBTyagi
      @CaptSBTyagi ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 You got it mate!😂
      This Devdutt is farzi, fake, nakli. He is forwarding his coomi agenda.

    • @shivajiaware2123
      @shivajiaware2123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good teaching to Dalal Rahul

    • @nit23sharma
      @nit23sharma 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is a mealy mouth chewtiya

  • @SaikatRoy99
    @SaikatRoy99 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    Devdutta is so imaginative that he writes his own mythology. Hence he can be intriguing to some naive novices.

    • @abhihsekb6841
      @abhihsekb6841 ปีที่แล้ว

      ha ha

    • @rahulvartak410
      @rahulvartak410 ปีที่แล้ว

      :-)

    • @sundareshanal1849
      @sundareshanal1849 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      In fact he has been exposed for his false translations and outright mischief.

    • @vineetrodge4099
      @vineetrodge4099 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He spoke many times that others are fool & he is only educated.

    • @jai6196
      @jai6196 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He just kept on throwing words Brahmin, Brahminical, Caste, untouchability etc and then called himself a scholar 😂

  • @hrideshkmishra
    @hrideshkmishra ปีที่แล้ว +248

    Devdutt continuously used the word, "Brahmanical" to point out that Chanakya's irony is that Chanakya helps in uniting the Country by nurturing a non-Bramhin king. Useless to call such people who openly call themselves mythological, which was actually our History.

    • @fiction1795
      @fiction1795 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes this man is actually a Dumbdutt

    • @sundareshanal1849
      @sundareshanal1849 ปีที่แล้ว

      Devdutt's double speak and hypocrisy has been brutally exposed by people like Nityanand Misra, Rajiv Malhotraji. This man was teaming up the radical left wing , global Hindu bashers and pretended to be part of our pantheon The book on the Ten Ravanas by Infinity Foundation laid bare these intellectual crooks.

    • @Cnu684
      @Cnu684 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Very true… such fellows who wants only publicity to sell his fiction books

    • @animeshpanda
      @animeshpanda ปีที่แล้ว

      exactly. what is not healthy is this guys detest of "brahmans". why does india today interview such casteist hatemongers.
      were vedas not written by brahmans ? were any other scripture not written by them? if india comes from sindhu better to call Sindhia right ? but mr. pattnaik will say NO, greek mispronunciation is right. pathetic.

    • @rashmichaturvedi3836
      @rashmichaturvedi3836 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agree 1000👍

  • @shahsatyena
    @shahsatyena ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Sanjeev sanyal sir…. Thank you for such a marvellous explanation… Jai Hind

  • @anarchyishere8312
    @anarchyishere8312 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    This Devdutt is a class act. First he gives a Grade 5 labored history lecture in the etymology of the word India. Then he goes on to say essentially that everything from outside is good, but a word/name from inside the country even if a part of the country - is bad - and we are all small people to want a name that originates from within the land. Furthermore, his anti Hindu and anti Brahaminical bias and pure hate is not even couched, while he calls others political. Class act indeed.

    • @watchtv6911
      @watchtv6911 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He didn’t even know the Sanskrit roots of Bharat.

    • @watchtv6911
      @watchtv6911 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Please don’t call Devdutt again. He needs a non- colonial education! There is a reason we do not teach such distorted history in schools. 👎

    • @ssrivastava3
      @ssrivastava3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, this joker is the product of an unknown father, and that too of foreign heritage. I could have used a single word to describe this joker / character, but that would have been uncivil.

    • @bvsp697
      @bvsp697 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Arya aryavartas aryans dravidians. North indians south indians. This is the history written by foriegners whose policy is to divide and rule. From himalayas to kanyakumari same vedas and veda mantras are followed. Same ramayana and mahabharatha. Vishnu shiva bramha are also same for entire bharat. Puranas are same. Ashtakshari panchakshari are same. This is the real history of bharat. over a period of time practices may have some difference. This is santhana dharma. This is making us unity in diversity. Dont fall prey to westerners written history. In schools we are thaught that. We believe that it is true. But that is not our real history. Some one outside comes and say this is epic and we accept that. It is slavery. For outsider who is a hypocrite we dont have to prove that it happened. Vedas puranas sanathana darma are our identity. Our history started when paramatma started creation. That is our unity in diversity. This is Bharat.

    • @nitin1240
      @nitin1240 ปีที่แล้ว

      That $¢umbag Danavdutt is a known current time Deep State narrative constructor to brainwash contemporary generation.

  • @dibsdg2117
    @dibsdg2117 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    What a difference between the two guests... Sanjeev Sanyal is a gem

    • @gauravdey4163
      @gauravdey4163 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ya because it's suits bjp

  • @ubtr9n805
    @ubtr9n805 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    Devdutt was creating a split by saying brahminical, south and north indian, arian. He himself admitted that India name was coined by external people. Bharath is the word used in the Vedas as well to describe our geography. Sanjeev put everything in right perspective. Ya, wondering what is there to debate. Both names are acceptable

    • @alani3992
      @alani3992 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      India is a geography. Bharat is a religio-cultural term.
      Even the biggest king Ashoka never used the term Bharat.

    • @Akash-tl6rm
      @Akash-tl6rm ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@alani3992 Geography is an objective construct devoid of values and identity. A nation's roots are to be traced to heritage and cultural moorings on which it is built upon. Asoka using or not using the term is immaterial when there are enough pre-Mauryan texts like Vishnupuran and Mahabharat mentions Bharata.

    • @ronarona4329
      @ronarona4329 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He is not creating a split
      He was talking about a split which was there in our old times
      And some of us don’t want to hear harsh truths

    • @ubtr9n805
      @ubtr9n805 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ronarona4329 he is indeed doing that. In the name Bharat where is brahminical coming and Aryan invasion theory is proven to be bogus. Still he wants to put across those irrelevant points to instigate people not to accept the name.

    • @ronarona4329
      @ronarona4329 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ubtr9n805 Aryan invasion is not bogus
      I don’t know from where u got that info.
      Brahmanical hegemony is a true thing
      How can u defend that
      It is the fundamental of all sanatan texts
      And still some parts of India people are facing it.
      Don’t try to hide rather accept and move fwd

  • @AA_135
    @AA_135 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    In such an important matter, Devdutt Pattnaik lied through his teeth. Check his financial records to see who funds him. The keys should be thrown away if he is found guilty.

    • @sarojadhikari8868
      @sarojadhikari8868 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sanjib Sanyal is a RSS ideologue, so
      he will propagate his own idejology.

    • @chanduji2855
      @chanduji2855 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Who funds him?
      Open society?
      Bil Milinda gates foundation?

    • @dr_mridul_sharma
      @dr_mridul_sharma ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@sarojadhikari8868 but does his statement correlates with facts??? Yess
      So, he may be rss ideologue but he stands. Correct 😊

    • @shivanandtripathi7821
      @shivanandtripathi7821 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@sarojadhikari8868 counter on facts buddy.

    • @rakshithgowda2048
      @rakshithgowda2048 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​​@@sarojadhikari8868having d same ideology doesn't change d facts... He gives facts and his argument is always backed by facts... Y is rss ideology or rss way of thinking so bad... R they terrorists?? 😂😂😂

  • @petechau6314
    @petechau6314 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    India is name given by foreign . If they cannot pronounce name - is it not their problem?Their problem is made our problem by dot India movement. Shameful to say the least

    • @rakshithgowda2048
      @rakshithgowda2048 ปีที่แล้ว

      No matter how many times u say that... D western boot lickers will never accept it

  • @VSushant
    @VSushant ปีที่แล้ว +223

    Sanjeev Sanyal is a gem who talks facts.

    • @Stoiccynic224
      @Stoiccynic224 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think he's a gem because he talks what you like to hear..😂.

    • @ratnamahtani7128
      @ratnamahtani7128 ปีที่แล้ว

      😮I

    • @Arthur-od9wz
      @Arthur-od9wz ปีที่แล้ว +7

      he literally spoke facts..lol...tht is wht people are appreciating@@Stoiccynic224...

    • @nirrmanchoudhury7248
      @nirrmanchoudhury7248 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Stoiccynic224 Arthur sometimes facts pain deep to fools ... and they try to smirk this with dud arguments....

    • @geetatripathi2454
      @geetatripathi2454 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Somehow Devdutt has better information as compared to Sanjeev Sanyal. It looks like History competition. And who is he to correct Devdutt Patnaik. He should talk in context of Vedas and Puranas. Should get his facts right. From where did all tribes meet and agreed this seems to be something loosing out with facts. Suggest people to go and see the inscribe in Hathigumpha.

  • @satishm3573
    @satishm3573 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This guy summarizing Bharat as a divisive Brahminical ideology is nonsensical

  • @playhard719
    @playhard719 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My Brain cells are dying 1000000 times faster listening to Devdutt thank fully India Today also invited sane people like Sanjeev Sanyal.

  • @zombieant7873
    @zombieant7873 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Wow.... I never thought anyone could beat TV serials in non sense and illogical arguments, until I saw Devdutt speak. He never disappoints🤣
    Logic and history completely left the chat😂

    • @gauravdey4163
      @gauravdey4163 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We don't care we are charvak s

  • @vocabsimplified3732
    @vocabsimplified3732 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Thank you Sanjeev sir for such a logical explanation.

  • @nikhilrevankar
    @nikhilrevankar ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Devdutt is full of imagination. He simply talks with 200% confidence.

  • @FarfarawaySomewhere
    @FarfarawaySomewhere ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Devdutt is like Bilawal 🤢and Sanjeev is like Dr Jaishankar ❤

    • @biobharat
      @biobharat ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Again pakistan connection, pakistan na hota to kya karte hum log 😂😂😂

    • @FarfarawaySomewhere
      @FarfarawaySomewhere ปีที่แล้ว

      @@biobharat 😁😁

    • @sanidhyasuman1428
      @sanidhyasuman1428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@biobharatkoi na hamare country mein v bohot Pappu hai...😂

    • @kakun63
      @kakun63 ปีที่แล้ว

      to fir se bana ke unpr hagte@@biobharat

  • @ts0hari
    @ts0hari ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Are there multiple names for Davdutt Pattnaik? Can we call him as Patti to celebrate our plurality!

    • @chanduji2855
      @chanduji2855 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Call him Davinson, he will look more plural and secular.

    • @teachersconference8932
      @teachersconference8932 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lets ask Dev if he wants to be called Asur - plurality , diversity , 😮

  • @sanjaymohta2069
    @sanjaymohta2069 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    Pattanaik is just a nautanki.
    Sanjeev sanyal is a gem😊

    • @RojaJaneman
      @RojaJaneman ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not nautanki, he’s a dhartipe boj

    • @rumadadarkar5325
      @rumadadarkar5325 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said .

    • @nanikarc5826
      @nanikarc5826 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah stupid guy this Devdutt. Sanjeev Sanyal is ssooooo knowledgable and explains well and addresses the questionⁿ

    • @geetatripathi2454
      @geetatripathi2454 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just because you dont know facts so you call Patnaik nautanki

    • @n______n26
      @n______n26 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sanjeev is an privileged entitled arrogant nepotism product has no sense of common sense/strifes of people

  • @petechau6314
    @petechau6314 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Sadhguru said” Name BHARAT will change destiny for better” . Name is everything in Sanatan dharma. If what is in a name - then why Muslims of BHARAT have Arabic names and Christians have European names??? BHARAT means civilizational identity- the only one survived while other 44 civilizations destroyed with “ changing names of civilizations”

    • @chandrakantshanbhag3058
      @chandrakantshanbhag3058 ปีที่แล้ว

      Destroyed by CHRISTIANITY and ISLAM during HOLY WARS.
      CRUSADE
      INQUISITION
      HOLOCAUST.
      ETC.
      Let someone explain what are the contribution of these two religions for MANKIND and PEACE?

    • @vykuntapufangtxpreet9546
      @vykuntapufangtxpreet9546 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well *SADGHGURU* Is A Fraud Guru But I Agree With Him Here.

  • @travellervishalshetty
    @travellervishalshetty ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Thank you Sanjeev Sanyal for that session

  • @Anilthemusician
    @Anilthemusician ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I used to respect Sanjeev sanyal before this debate, but post listening to Dedutt patnail, I even more respect Sanjeev sanyal 😂

  • @janvysatya6595
    @janvysatya6595 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Sanjeev is the best

  • @Anushilansamiti80
    @Anushilansamiti80 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Devdutt Pattanaik’s credibility comprehensively demolished by Sanjeev Sanyal sir.

    • @geetatripathi2454
      @geetatripathi2454 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No not really go and read facts. Just speaking assertively doesn't specify Sanjeev Sanyal is correct

    • @WojtekTheBear2005
      @WojtekTheBear2005 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@geetatripathi2454 Sanjeev sanyal is wholly correct in what he's saying.

  • @janvysatya6595
    @janvysatya6595 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Devdut is crazy

    • @rumadadarkar5325
      @rumadadarkar5325 ปีที่แล้ว

      And he is also Brainless

    • @iaanish
      @iaanish ปีที่แล้ว

      He was crazy good. Sanyal was loud and crass. his Tholpakium take itself exposes him. Sorry unless you are a Tamil you won't understand it.

    • @janvysatya6595
      @janvysatya6595 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iaanish then you will also believe India came from indhu lol

    • @iaanish
      @iaanish ปีที่แล้ว

      @@janvysatya6595 india can come from anywhere, before you comment on tamil language and culture as a historian, he should have done some 5 paise worth of research. There is no book called Tholpakium. It is Tholkapium, probably worlds first written book on grammar for a language. it is tamil and hence an indian book. have some respect when you take its name in public space as a historian. he is more of a votebank historian, spinning stories than a respectfully introspecting historian who talks with proof.

  • @variablex6928
    @variablex6928 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Did Devdutt just refer to himself as a scholar! Oops.

    • @alani3992
      @alani3992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He puts forward ideas.
      But maybe humans don't want to think for themselves.

    • @RohitGupta-v3u
      @RohitGupta-v3u ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@alani3992ideas or narratives to sow the seeds of division?

    • @Anp562
      @Anp562 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dogs often sniff their own ass

    • @alani3992
      @alani3992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RohitGupta-v3u His thoughts are inclusive, not divisive.
      But if you think otherwise, I won't restrict your free-thought.

    • @buri_buri_Z
      @buri_buri_Z ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@alani3992hus thoughts doesn't seem inclusive of brahmins , he literally hates brahmins and even though he tries to hide it in some way it still comes out . And then comes his distorted version of history .

  • @riyapatil1395
    @riyapatil1395 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was planning to read Mr. Pattanaik's books, but after listening to his explanations, I think I should save myself from the headache. All those who read his books to understand history, May God Save You.

  • @rajotavo
    @rajotavo ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This Pattanaik is suspect...he does not know Sanskrit yet had made tall claims...'India' is a Latin ( Roman) word.....an exonym as Rahul correctly pointed out. What is Pattanaik talki9ng about?!! The so called Indo-Aryans came fr "outside" ...so? Even the earliest Indians. i.e., the aborigines' or Austro-Asiatic ppl came via the sea cost fr Africa! So, literally every group in India has an origin outside this land! Pattanaik is obviously playing politics...

    • @sundareshanal1849
      @sundareshanal1849 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not suspect. He is structured fraud.

    • @iaanish
      @iaanish ปีที่แล้ว

      Then how did caste system originate and why are 350 million indians outside this graded system treated as untouchables?. my question is not meant to hurt anyone's belief, sentiment or brain.

    • @rajotavo
      @rajotavo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iaanish where did u get this data?!

    • @iaanish
      @iaanish ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rajotavo too bad you don't know the population of SC/STs in india. look it up.

    • @rajotavo
      @rajotavo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iaanish that includes SC and ST...right? They get govt. reservations...so? What is ur point? Untouchability is banned by Indian law. It has been acted upon...more needs to be executed on that front ..not denying the dark social side we still have...but what is ur point?

  • @TheNarendra73
    @TheNarendra73 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Now I can imagine why he may have been shown the door at Reliance Group.

  • @muralidharchalapathy7855
    @muralidharchalapathy7855 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    When devdutt said scholar.. I almost fell off my chair..😂😂.. Bharath is brahminical... Level of his scholarship is exposed

  • @ashishcodanda6572
    @ashishcodanda6572 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sanjeev Sanyal is 👌 ....needs no further debate 👏 ... 🇮🇳💪✌️🚩

  • @CosmicKey-dj3gx
    @CosmicKey-dj3gx ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I have a cold today, I blame Brahmanical Hindu society for my troubles

  • @itsmebuddy4580
    @itsmebuddy4580 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    BHARAT a wonderful move. No problems at all.

  • @pinkikarve5615
    @pinkikarve5615 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Seriously ??? Devdutt Pattanaik ??? OMG so much of time pass …. Ufff. You are insulting Sanjeev Sanyal’s intelligence to put him with Pattanaik.

  • @merlynmenezes_0106
    @merlynmenezes_0106 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Woke up from long slumber to change name...
    Call it the way you want... India/Bharat/Hindustan it's our country...🇮🇳😍

    • @alani3992
      @alani3992 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes like Deutschland/Alemania/Nymecho/Tyskland/Germany is one country.
      Many names signify deep & ancient relations.

    • @FarfarawaySomewhere
      @FarfarawaySomewhere ปีที่แล้ว

    • @chanduji2855
      @chanduji2855 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alani3992 can you elaborate the old names and new names of above countries you mentioned above?plz?

    • @diwa007
      @diwa007 ปีที่แล้ว

      You hit the nail on the head. The slumber was precisely for 9 years.

    • @alani3992
      @alani3992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chanduji2855 Those are all names for Germany. In Southern Europe its called 'Alemania', in Eastern Europe 'Nymecho' etc.
      Btw even Norway, Sweden, Hungary, Austria, Croatia etc are just the English names of those countries.

  • @sabertooth207
    @sabertooth207 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    We need TV debates like this where we can learn something

    • @satyajit2007
      @satyajit2007 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      U don’t learn anything from here . Go and read good books . What debadutt is telling is entirely misleading and political

    • @rakshithgowda2048
      @rakshithgowda2048 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​​@@satyajit2007there is a lot to learn from historians like Sanjeev sanyal ... Devdutt just makes things up in his head n just dumps it on d ppl

    • @artculture1711
      @artculture1711 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Devdutt Pattnaik's "brahmanical" rant falls flat when people realise who the authors of Bharat's greatest revered epics 'Ramayan' & 'Mahabharat' are. They are 'Valmiki', a 'Bhill' fisherman turned dacoit turned sage. And 'Vyas', the son of a 'boat rover' (maajhi) woman Satyawati. "Brahmanical attrocity" treated these "low caste" members of the society so badly that they not only made their epics foundations of their own culture & view of the world, but also elevated these "low caste untouchables" into 'Maharshis' .. Maha-Rishis, the greatest of 'Brahmins'.
      So much for that idiotic, agenda centric Devdutt Pattnaik's credibility.

    • @sanbalakrishnan
      @sanbalakrishnan ปีที่แล้ว

      He has access to some good quality “stuff” that he smokes, snorts

  • @VivekKumar-gc3yx
    @VivekKumar-gc3yx ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How can you call such a bigot on your channel....he has such a hate for brahmins...just repeating brahminical whether it makes sense or not....why does he hate Hinduism put Jains, Buddhists and outsiders in good context.

  • @surfingguru5360
    @surfingguru5360 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    it baffles me that we as Indians in 2023 are debating over the name and discussing history to justify the usage of the name Bharat, each and every Bhartiya must have been taught or known that India is called Bharat. No body is "changing" the name just using the original one.

  • @kishorekhot
    @kishorekhot ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Game Set and Match
    Sanjeev Sanyal ! Simply Brilliant !

  • @chandrashivpuri1224
    @chandrashivpuri1224 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    To use Devdutt Pattnaik as a expert is a riot ! This guy does not know the books which he has most probably not read in depth or in detail. One should read the critique on his expounding. The Lutyens media with their own inferiority complex are very quick to embrace this guys explanation, because they of course don’t have time to read. “ Andho main kana raja “ !

  • @madankulkarni1715
    @madankulkarni1715 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Devdutt is mystiriously singulor in explaning multi- diversified roots of bharat to bhraminism where as Sanjeev is strightforward & factful & convincing

    • @ytskt
      @ytskt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes he was throwing all sorts of usual anti Hindu tropes hoping something would stick.... proved himself as an idiot instead

  • @TheNarendra73
    @TheNarendra73 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How many times did Devdutt mention about Brahamin/ Brahmanical??? Really ?Why?What’s your agenda?

  • @rajeevbhatt6842
    @rajeevbhatt6842 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Patnaik is shamelessly divisive.

  • @gautamchandran
    @gautamchandran ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The negativity n hate in Pattnaik s words is in sheer contrast with hope n positivity that of Sanyal's

  • @arijitnaskar8151
    @arijitnaskar8151 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sanjeev sanyal is brilliant

  • @Cloudninerains
    @Cloudninerains ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The word Sindhu has its etmological roots in Tamil. Just because it is in North India doesnt mean it should be sanskirit. Indhumathi is a Tamil word as well. Inthu and mathi both refer to moon in tamil, and that kind of two differenet phonemes meaning same is predominant characterstic of tamil language than in sanskirit. Such a linguistic structure is classified and categorized as heteronym. Similarly other example is 'Kaarmegam'....both kaar and megam mean clouds. Looks like india today only finds historians nearby😁

  • @incubusk8r
    @incubusk8r ปีที่แล้ว +31

    as any one can predict devdutt is crying on his twitter. i was actually a big fan of his work even before his tv shows until he took a hard left.

    • @alani3992
      @alani3992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congrats on wanting to hear what you 'want' to hear.
      Great human potential.

    • @incubusk8r
      @incubusk8r ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@alani3992 No really i really was a big fan. This debate was pre recorded and questions given long before hand, still the scholar got his FACTS WRONG. After he had ample time to prepare.
      Right now Devdutt is spiralling out of his mind on twitter.
      What is there to hear what i want to here when you have your facts wrong.
      He is going crazy (breaking friendships) and brahmin bashing and admits that he hates brahmins coz they question him. what i mean you hate people coz they ask questions? I have no love for brahmins i am a dalit (passi) my self. but he doesn't know how to handle an asswhopping.
      He would have his dignity if he just tweeted i am sorry i got a few facts wrong, good night and tomorrow is another day. A very thinned skin scholar i must say.

    • @RohitGupta-v3u
      @RohitGupta-v3u ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@incubusk8rvery well articulated, everything I had in my mind.
      Also he accused Rahul of divide & rule for a simple enquiry that probably many have & went on to be nauseatingly divisive himself without any provocation.

    • @incubusk8r
      @incubusk8r ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alani3992 believe me when i say this. I was your typical urban kid with an passion for marxist ideology and atheist. He, in a way made me a "born again hindu" abet still an atheist.
      But his new avatar of being this left brahmin bashing, not listening to any one and this passive aggressive blocking nonsence, and belitteling people who have genuine questions, sensitive one is putting many of his own fans off.
      all i can say is he WAS a great scholor and a human today after taking a hard left, he is a bitter bitter man and a horrible human. AND IT PAINS ME TO SAY IT.

    • @nowonami2524
      @nowonami2524 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he forgot to say that outsiders (arabs) called certain people 'Hindu'. yet these same people (brahmans) insist on yelling "garv se kaho hum Hindu hai".

  • @watchtv6911
    @watchtv6911 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I knew this Devdutt would start this woke narrative

  • @ssb26
    @ssb26 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mythologist - my foot.

  • @manojtrivedi5368
    @manojtrivedi5368 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great sharing by Sanjeev & justifying the debate. Devdutt & people like him are trying to create a split among the people & our country. JAY BHARAT.

  • @maheshpv8278
    @maheshpv8278 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    After this debate someone had a nervous breakdown. Hope he is alright.

    • @ytskt
      @ytskt ปีที่แล้ว

      He did it to himself.

  • @PriyeRai
    @PriyeRai ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2:00-3:12 Mr Pattnaik very predictably advertised this mentality of "let others do it since it's characteristic to them but let us choose inaction because we are not like them" by leveraging the foolish, self-righteous, emotional garb of owning one's pluralism. This mentality basically opens the way to "let others walk over us because that's who they are, let us not learn from that and allow them to walk over us again as they please since we are that damn good-hearted". That seems like the mentality of someone who is happy eternally playing second-fiddle and being unimportant. The point he implied about plurality of gods being something unique to Bharat and The West having singular God-origins isn't even true. Before the politically-motivated spread of middle-eastern religions, most if not all of what now constitutes the West had multiple Gods (Greek pantheon, Norse pantheon). Multiple Gods has been a shared aspect of communities all across the world before the spread of middle-eastern cults that was often done through forced conversions.

  • @swaritaray6457
    @swaritaray6457 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you Mr. Sanyal for this very logical view point

  • @mukeshsaxena403
    @mukeshsaxena403 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Devdutt Patnaik, Ravish kumar, Prashant Bhushan,Yogendra Yadav, Udaynidhi Stailin, Asaduddin Obesi Etc.....All Namse of one Soul

  • @AshwinMaloo79
    @AshwinMaloo79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dhanyavad 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @subbusharma220
    @subbusharma220 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Devdutt a scholar…🤣🤣🤣

  • @offencebestdefence500
    @offencebestdefence500 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sanyal, calm collected Brilliance 🫡

  • @niteshtripathi6721
    @niteshtripathi6721 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What does this man(devdutt) has against brahmins

    • @AhamBrahmosmi
      @AhamBrahmosmi ปีที่แล้ว

      Congress funds

    • @aashish.purohit
      @aashish.purohit ปีที่แล้ว

      He is Wyndi doneger dattak 'putra', Established to distort Hindu History

  • @poojamitra3990
    @poojamitra3990 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Sanyalji…. Very convincing

  • @kaushiksivakumar
    @kaushiksivakumar ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i am surprised how Devdutt is even counted as an expert on these matters. bharatam is a name heavily used in ancient tamil lietrature too.

  • @awakenkaafirex-muslim6627
    @awakenkaafirex-muslim6627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Being an Odia , I am ashamed of this Debdut Patnaik . This man is earning a bad name for our glorious Kalinga .
    Jai Jagannath 🕉

  • @viveksharma6418
    @viveksharma6418 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Shame on u india today for deleting the original video having one-o'-one rebuttal to devdutt by sanjeev sanyal. Sanjeev had beaten the hell out of pattanaik in that video...
    Although devdutt still stands exposed to the people who r watching even this edited video but the indiantoday team has cunningly edited the original video by cutting out all the answers of both the panelists and then putting them seperately (at first- devdutt's arguments , later mr. Sanyal's one).
    But in the original/ intial video which was released on yesterday (6sept2023) evening, it was like rahul asked a question and then both of them answered it one by one & then next question by rahul which was again answered by both of them & so on...
    India today u have flawed credentials for journalism .
    What u have done today is a quintessential act of what we call as - 'thook k chatna'.
    It's a barefaced act by indiatoday to protect the leftist, divisionist, hinduphobic pattanaik.
    Pity on you guys.

  • @sharadhsubadra18
    @sharadhsubadra18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Devdutt is absolutely a valuable gem who should be exhibited in the Tower of London, we could exchange it with Kohinoor...

  • @svramakrishnan124
    @svramakrishnan124 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A good discussion…of course, Mr. Sanyal is more clear about what he has to say with historical facts, and very convincing….his explanations should be read or listened by more people to know what is what… happy that both 🇮🇳 India and Bharath are oringinally from our land only. Period. Thanks to Sanyal.

  • @AshokKumar-cz5vl
    @AshokKumar-cz5vl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When you use Brahmin word repeatedly in your talk, Devadattji, it looks more political than academic,....
    But no worries, now in India every one is political and they want their argument to win.
    Yet, your description is very knowledgeable.

  • @prasantmohanty4075
    @prasantmohanty4075 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sanjiv is a great person

  • @Technocrat97
    @Technocrat97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely agree that Devdutt’s interpretation of South and North is in factual

  • @1977vsk
    @1977vsk ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a Oothiya, this DDP😅 Never knew this fellow is of this epic level

  • @greenroad343
    @greenroad343 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yesterday this conversation had different format. Both participants were in discussion/dialog mode. The present one is in the form of two lectures by Devdutt and Sanyal. Why was the original conversation suddenly taken off TH-cam ? Who objected to the format ? Sanyal or Devdutt ? Devdutt became more assertive in the present one.
    Devdutt is backward. He only studies, interprets , and disseminates mythology. Sangh pariwar is forward looking. It creates mythology.
    Sangh has clear objectives and strategy to achieve goals. They don't do anything without a purpose. They are also proactive and take the initiative. I really appreciate the strategic thinkers in the backroom who evolve strategies. Any one who opposes them is only in reactive mode.
    Any religion must take the control over the thoughts of the target people. Words are powerful. They can both aid or interfere with the pracharak's goals. Making the word "India" as foreign is an intelligent ploy.
    It appears that the ruling dispensation feels that "oneness" against the "other" (unite the Hindus to created divide between Hindus and foreign religions) will continue to yield electoral results. Will economic law of diminishing returns apply to this situation ?
    We Indians (and Hindus) are diverse groups. There is no need to "unite" us. We have been living in our zones as well as interacting with different internal cultures fairly well since independence.
    It is our diversity that has sustained democracy. Not our wisdom. We are as human as anyone else in the world. Democracy essentially means freedom of thought and action to the individual. There are two axis of freedoms- social and economic. The current regime offer low level of freedom on both axis.
    It's time for citizens to think about the underlying objectives and purpose. Indians need freedom and economic well-being. Hope we get it

  • @ajitrao9223
    @ajitrao9223 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sanjeev Sanyal has explained this quite well. Devdutt speaks as though he has been paid by the opposition

  • @Technocrat97
    @Technocrat97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sanjeev’s explanation is absolutely correct! Thank you Sanjeev 🙏🇮🇳

  • @Butunmallick7851
    @Butunmallick7851 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just wow explain of Sanjeev ji

  • @AMITKUMAR-bv7qm
    @AMITKUMAR-bv7qm ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't know how India signifies the plurality as arguments presented by Devdutt patnaik. There's complete lack of rationality presented by him. If this is the level of our so called intelligentsia then how could we become vishwaguru ?

  • @abhiallen83
    @abhiallen83 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So tomorrow if westerners start calling this patnaik guy “jerk” or “maniac” , he will celebrate that word because of his pluralism and multiplicity! 😅

  • @rahuljagarwal153
    @rahuljagarwal153 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Devdhoot works for his colonial masters and want to keep them happy..

  • @ujwalmokashi6702
    @ujwalmokashi6702 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. Parnaik ticked all the propaganda boxes.
    1. Caste checked..
    2. Foreign over native checked.
    3. Hindu vs other. Glad that he favoured Jains.
    4. South vs North..

  • @yogforpeace
    @yogforpeace ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Devdutra bhai kuch bhi logic lagaoge kya ?

  • @davidrajan2795
    @davidrajan2795 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The background history for Bharatas: The Bharatas were an early Vedic tribe that existed in the latter half of the second millennium B.C.
    The earliest mentioned location of the Bharatas was on the first Sarasvatī River in southern Afghanistan. Led by the tribal king Divodāsa, the Bharatas moved through the Hindu Kush mountains and defeated Śambara. Divodāsa's descendant, Sudās, won the Battle of the Ten Kings against a Pūru-led coalition, after which the initial compilation of hymns of the R̥gveda was carried out.[citation needed] After the battle, the Bharatas and other Pūru clans eventually formed the Kuru Kingdom, which was the first attested state in Indian history. The name Bharata is of Indo-Aryan and Indo-Iranian origin, meaning "bearers" or "carriers". (Taken from Wikipedia)

  • @amitgoyal7940
    @amitgoyal7940 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a reply to Rahul from Devdutt. Should see change of face colour

  • @mrinmoyc1191
    @mrinmoyc1191 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mr Rahul, next time you get 2 experts. Make them debate an issue together.

  • @samshri8320
    @samshri8320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bharat Arthat India in Hindi version should be more widely publicised, as there Bharat comes first!!

  • @watchtv6911
    @watchtv6911 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please don’t call Devdutt again. He needs a non- colonial education! There is a reason we do not teach such distorted history in schools. 👎

  • @Shriradhakrishna7073
    @Shriradhakrishna7073 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sanjeev sanyal sir is a gem ......pure diamond

  • @satyajit2007
    @satyajit2007 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unfortunately lot of middle class Indians learn Hinduism through Debadutt . He often morphs Indic thoughts to suit his woke audience

  • @nagiandy1092
    @nagiandy1092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sanjiv Sanyal is excellent!!!

  • @rohitkashyap1051
    @rohitkashyap1051 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Most appauling thing which exposes the likes of Devdutt Patnayak is.....there is no proposal to ban the use of India.
    Once u keep that in mind......90% of what DP says is rona dhona about lack of plurality/ caste discrimination/ and what not......
    He gives away his politics, and frustration.....when he could have just spoken about his understanding of history

  • @harshjoshi3167
    @harshjoshi3167 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Initially when you start reading books of Devdutt patnacik, you would get carried away with his fictional thoughts and start thinking or questioning the literature we as hindus have inherited. Fact of the matter is that he is creating fiction within society just to endorse his thoughts. Just quoting everywhere this mythology that mythology with good control over language doesn’t prove his literal ability.

  • @shywatching
    @shywatching ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This Patanai should not be given a platform for insulting us.
    He says Hindu texts were all created by Brahmins. Valmiki who wrote the Ramayana was a Dalit, so was Veda Vaasa.

  • @souvikdey5422
    @souvikdey5422 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Devutta's argument is self defeating...he is truly a mythologist! 😂....why should we happily accept a mispronunciation of a native word? Why not 'Sindhu' itself, 'H'indu/'I'ndu derived bacause of inability of the foreigners to pronounce the word 'Sindhu' properly...and 'India' is even a further deviation from 'H'indu/'I'ndu

  • @diamondbeauty-yg1yr
    @diamondbeauty-yg1yr ปีที่แล้ว

    Iam a Bharatan. Not any more Iam an Indian. Congratulations

  • @ShadowQ8486
    @ShadowQ8486 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Devdutt himself is a myth.

  • @cssuntherrao
    @cssuntherrao ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Devdutt is a mythologist and talks myths, including those of his own making. He is not a Ithihasist or historian. There is nothing called Brahminical ethos.

  • @Arthur-od9wz
    @Arthur-od9wz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    for someone like devdutt who unfortunately knws some history and is famous and promotes the divide n rule someone like Sanjeev sir was the best kryptonite..his every facts tht he was twisting was pointed out and checked this is what we want more people like Sanjeev sir who can take on these pseudo intellectuals

    • @sumanair9317
      @sumanair9317 ปีที่แล้ว

      As far as this discussion is concerned, Devadutt was clear and Sanyal was fumbling

    • @WojtekTheBear2005
      @WojtekTheBear2005 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@sumanair9317 yes and you are Einstein. Now shut up. Patt-anaik got patt se head by Sanjeev sanyal

  • @gowrishankarbharadwaj3975
    @gowrishankarbharadwaj3975 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sanjeev Sanyal - Brilliant

  • @sriranga1000
    @sriranga1000 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For get all,about history mythology ?one simple,fact is India was coined by British Why hang on to British Legacyn even after independence .So Bharath is the right name

    • @UjwalRam
      @UjwalRam ปีที่แล้ว

      Right point. Why all these discussions. At that time they wanted to include Britain flag as well in our flag . I was shocked reading that .

    • @kaalishanmugam5796
      @kaalishanmugam5796 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well then one should start with "Hindu" which was more probably straight up coined the by the British to refer to a religion unlike India which like they said, goes far beyond British.

    • @Admiralmoti
      @Admiralmoti ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@kaalishanmugam5796And right after that, let's remove "Dravidians" too since the Brits coined the term.

  • @arvind-india
    @arvind-india ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The name India has been mispronounced and given by foreigners even though the origin of the word India is from our Sindhu or Sapta Sindhu! The naming of Bharat by present government is being portrayed in a bad way by Devdutta in his imaginative style where as Sanjeev puts it across nicely. Bharat and India both are ours and we can call by either name but the word India has been given by foreigners in their way of speaking so there is a slight distinction.

  • @shreeki7908
    @shreeki7908 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Devdutt is so wrong on facts dude... May good bless his readers

  • @rishabhkumardwivedi
    @rishabhkumardwivedi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Devdutt is aptly 💯 correct

    • @teachersconference8932
      @teachersconference8932 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pls list how ? Unless you have lost your logical brains . dont follow mythologist/ distorian .. Follow historians .

  • @padhuvaidy7769
    @padhuvaidy7769 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is over when you started with Bharat has more ‘Indic’ roots 😂

  • @99Backstabber
    @99Backstabber ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As both of them concluded that India and Bharat are both official names and they can be used interchangeably so I don't see the problem here why are you debating like Idiots it's not like by using name Bharat frequently are going to follow more rules than you are following right now😂😂