Henri Toivonen - A Morte
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- The tragedy of the 1986 Tour de Corse and Henri Toivonen and Sergio Crestos final rally.
Henri was on a different level that day, pulling out a lead off over two minutes breaking stage records.`
The end of Group B rally.
Henri snd Sergio would be proud to know all these years later we remember them.
They will never grow old or be forgotten.
Sì...
Even today, they are remembered
15.10.2021
Legend 🥺
Greetings from Finland.
We remember Henri every day...
Flying Finns have a angel, who knows rally.
2.9 sec 0-100 km/h
9.6 sec 0-200 km/h
500 or more hp !!!
But was 1986 without electric controls or "abs" ...
memories
Super Duty really driver....👍
Itku pitkästä ilosta.
:(
Walter Röhrl prediceted the death of Toivonen...
Henri was my Hero ever since I saw him win the RAC in 1980. I was 22 when this happened, and I can still remember the absolute devastation I felt when I saw the news. Everyone bangs on about Senna's death, but to me, this was by far the most tragic. RIP Henri.
bugattieb110ss True, Senna had medical attention straight away while Henri and Sergio burnt in the car with no help at the scene for 15 - 20 minutes.
As a child I watched Henri on a couple of RAC rallies, he was my hero. This video was upsetting to watch but also a fitting tribute to two brilliant men. RIP Henri & Sergio
2.9 sec 0-100 km/h
9.6 sec 0-200 km/h
..but was 1986 without electric controls or abs
nor even a handbrake
And the 2.8 sec 0-100 km/h time was on gravel, on asphalt the s4 would do around 2.3 seconds to reach 100
balls of steel, today are bunch of pussies with electronic help
@@matt7232 eh i wouldnt say that, theres no traction control or ABS in today's WRC cars
its really mostly differental settings on the fly from the driver's side with the steering wheel alongside torque settings where at the time prior to WRC era you have to settle that months before even testing
@@matt7232 but the outrageous aero has stuck around, especially with Toyota's case
Best days of rallying,though never to be repeated,
Don't cry because it's over
Smile because it happened!
writing this under the video where Henri burned to dust is somehow weird, dude..
@@hedlik yea
RIP Henri and Sergio 😔😔
Joni-Pekka Vartiainen yes let us not forget Sergio they were a team after all, Henri was my favourite driver, I've found out today he was born the same year as myself they will never be forgotten RIP
Henri Toivonen et Sergio Cresto resteront dans nos coeurs trente quatre ans après leur disparition tragique le 2/5/1986 en Corse. Henri Toivonen aurait pu devenir champion du monde des rallye en 1986 au volant de la Lancia Delta S4. Il avait un palmarès et un talent exceptionnel. Respect Mr Henri Toivonen et à son copilote Sergio Cresto. 🚘🚘🚘🚘🚘🚘
❤❤❤❤❤.
Toivonen was the Ayrton Senna of rallies, the most talented rally driver ever.
Rovanperä might be more talented. A lot of similarity with Toivonen
@@postilaatikko7384 maybe but Rovanpera would probably shit his pants in Group B times without electronic assistance, 170 degree wheel, 2022 suspension and high downforce tested in proper wind tunnels with telemetry... with no mention that Toivonen was doing above 200km/h on gravel with people standing literally on track, thousands of people... The Group B drivers have no equal in modern era or future, sorry.
@@MattproThe very VERY well said🙌
Sorry but no. Toivonen is the Toivonen of rallies.
@@pauloruilopes5777 Claro que sim, talvez eu pudesse ter me expressado melhor, mas tb acho que percebeste o que eu queria dizer, que o Toivonen, nos rallies era o equivalente ao Senna na F1, o melhor, o mais talentoso e o mais poderoso piloto, talvez de todos os tempos. Não deixa de ser uma opinião subjectiva, mas em ambos os casos, longe de ser uma opinião rara, ou muito original, no caso do Senna, muito comum, até.
Thank you for this. I stopped watching Rally after Toivonen's death. He died on the day after my 11th birthday. I also stopped watching formula 1 when Senna died on my 19th birthday. Now I had to research a lot about them for a work I had to do. Although painful and making me still cry after all these years, this footage are actually helping me to cope with those traumas, maybe even take a look to what has been happening in Rally and Formula 1 all these years. I still have a Markku Alén autograph, he exchanged a few words with a 10-year-old kid, unfortunately I don't have Toivonen's
R.I.P Henri Toivonen 1956-1986 You will always be my hero. 😢
io avevo 17 anni ai tempi e cominciavo ad appassionarmi a questo mondo. qualche anno fa sono stato sul luogo in cui è avvenuta la tragedia e mi sono fermato a pensare. sono stato assalito da un sacco di emozioni che non so definire. quando ci penso mi accade ancora. ne sono avvenute di tragedie negli anni a venire e ogni volta è la stessa cosa a prescindere da chi sia a perdere la vita facendo motorsport. non so descrivere cosa ho dentro e so di essere banale e di non dire nulla con queste parole ma quando ci penso mi sento smarrito.
that is why the Gr. B ended...."These cars are faster than us"- Markku Allen.
Walter Röhrl was faster than the cars, thats the reason why he is still living. Walter Röhrl also predicted the death of Toivonen. All finnish drivers drank too much alcohol, Röhrl never did.
@@barfuss2007 Röhrl was a super driver and
a clever wise man as far as I can see in this footage.....that's why such statements sound
untrustworthy to me. Is there any stuff available on the internet ?
@@@INDIGOBLUE555
I have seen it on TV. Röhrl is still a man who tells his opinion, he didnt cares about publicity or political correctness. And dont forget his statement was also a warning for these risky drivers.
@@barfuss2007 I greatly respect and admire W R.
however his remarks about finnish "racing" drivers so often being on alcool effect definetly
sounds a bit harsh,that's why I have been searching for it in the net,unsuccessfully though.
I also have plain personal recollection of a creepy shoot featuring a great finnish driver at a check point in the 80es: he "surely" was on drugs (amphetamine or cocaine) and no wonder for that....long efforts under pressure on GroupB monsters easily took need for extra aids of some kind.
Back to Group B cars outperforming the drivers'
"mental" performance Röhrl himself admittedly
agreed those cars were, at times, faster than human brain, telling it shortly.
Let me highlight one objective point: let apart the
Toivonen/Cresto tragedy I have no recollection of
serious accidents during the GroupB monsters' season. Do you have some ?
@@@INDIGOBLUE555
in the interview with Röhrl a big accident in Portugal was namend but I dont know if it was the same year. Why dont you ask Röhrl himself? I think he will answer you correctly.
The Group B cars were deninitly too dangerous both for the spectators and the drivers. Röhrl drove so fast because he predicted the reactions of the cars too...
thats the reason he survived.
Thanks for the video from Italy. So many new frames, a little bit as rewind Henry and Sergio here. Legends never dies. Passion never die. Alwais with all us. Thanks again...
Solo tu sai cosa è successo. Sei stato il più bravo di tutti. Eri l'unico che portavi al limite la S4. Avresti vinto a mano bassa il mondiale. Non avevi concorrenza. R. I. P. LEGGENDA DEL RALLY. NESSUNO PIÙ COME TE, HENRY TOIVONEN 😭✊
he was the rally... he was tha martini lancia rally racin team... he was... he was the biggest rally driver ever born... thank you Henri to visit us in this planet...
You nailed it Gianfranco
LANCIA S4 Turbodelta! What a rallycar!! RIP Henri & Sergio
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I went to the scene of the accident in 2003. A poignant moment. Barely a day goes by that I don’t think about Henri and what happened on that day in 1986. Thank you for the beautiful tribute and view of the last hours of his life. It’s still shocking even now.
After 33 year's, I look again this movie, and my heart beat very bad. What Is possible ???? Ciao great Hero's (Henry, Sergio, Attilio ❤️) Grazie d tutto ! Thanks for all ! Elba and Corsica Brother's forever.
I have a T shirt with the S4 and Henry portrayed on it that I wear every time I go to the Gym. I've owned two Lotus Sunbeams and seen Henry rallying several times best probably him and Vatanen against each other on the IOM in Ascona 400s. Saw him win the RAC etc etc. and twice in the S4. Been to Corsica for the Tour De Corse Hystoriqe twice and visited the crash site to pay my tributes. Bit if a fan!!!!. He was feckin amazing as was the Lancia Delta S4. Both untouchable. Group B was amazing but took away a real star. Still quite happy these days to see #EE33 doing well in the Toyota. Will never forget them never ever. Thank you for a brilliant video thank you Finland and thank you Lancia.
35 years ago my friends- Never will Henri be forgotten RIP
May Henri and Sergio's souls rest in eternal peace. You live on in our memories and will never be forgotten.
S'il n'avait pas connu cette tragédie en Corse , Henri Toivonen aurait pu devenir champion du monde des rallyes en 1986 tellement c'était un pilote exceptionnel , talentueux et hyper combattif . Il restera le Petit Prince des rallyes . 1986 aurait du être l'année de Lancia avec la Delta S4 et de Toivonen . Respect Monsieur Henri Toivonen .
Rivedendo questo video mi fà ancora male........RIP Henri e Sergio............................
Beautiful. I always look forward to your content. Toivonen is also my favorite rally driver. Thank you.
Toivonen come Gilles ........... LEGGENDE IMMORTALI !!!! Nessuno come loro .
Vero... R. I.P.
Missed this one previously.... absolutely love the stuff you put together!
Sometimes the most precocious talents are wrapped in the most fragile packaging
31 years and I still miss him enormously. A lovely human with a great talent. Taken in his prime, was never quite as good since Group B!
Thank you so much for this video Marv, as usual excelent quality with your videos, somehow getting all of this footage from god knows where and putting all of it together in a spectacular way.
HOLY HECC IT'S BURPLE
also RIP Henri, his sense of humour was also hilarious
I knew that Henri was ill, but I did not appreciate how ill he was until I saw this video and the interviews. A lot of flu medicines warn not to drive, and that is when you are driving something sedate, rather than the insane monster that the S4 was. I am unsure whether he should have been allowed to drive/compete on this event. A great talent. I saw Henri win the RAC, a truly great driver. He will forever be in our hearts. RIP.
Its hard to get across to people how hard these Group B cars are to drive. Malcolm Wilson was staying in the same hotel as the Lancia team in Corsica and he said at breakfast Henri was sat at a table over from him and he could not believe the amount of tablets the Lancia doctor was giving him with his breakfast.
Recuerdo imborrable para Henry y Sergio!!!!! 💚💚💚💚♥️♥️♥️♥️💚💚💚💚
I must get around to making a Toivinen Lancia tribute.
I'm a Finnish rally fan and of course a fan of Toivonen too, but i don't think he was at this point of his career the best Finnish driver. He had just gotten in a competitive car and had couple victories which was great, but there were guys like Kankkunen who i think might be the most skilled driver ever, and Vatanen (1 World title, 5 Time Dakar Rally winner) and Vatanen almost died too in a group B car, because his seat came out of place during a bump! Couple of Finns might have been faster drivers than him is all im saying. If this didn't happen and Toivonen had a long career, almost surely would have joined The group of Finnish world title holders at some point, but to be called the best of them, takes some real skills, because The level of Finnish rally driving and rally drivers was very, very high and still is! I think Henri wouldn't disagree on this. If i'm not wrong here, during the 80s and 90s, Finns took at some point 14 drivers world titles in 22 years or so, Finns also took both of the group B titles that were driven. Now when i think about it, its sad that we could have seen Toivonen still driving the modern rally cars in 90s and even after millennium. Old motorsport people also say that both Toivonen's, Henri and Pauli were fast on formula cars, Henri so skilled that he could have won in the F1, and Pauli was close to F1 contract in 1995 to a bottom-grid team, though. Blaming Toivonens risky driving for this is not cool because it seems More that he had a mechanical failure or blacked out. R.i.p Henri and Sergio
I didn't see much of his previous races but on this one he was obviously off, although S4 doesn't seem like a great handling car, Henry's driving on his last day was not ok
Thank You Marv for this video, for reminding Henri and Sergio final rally.
Wonderful video. Excellent. You managed to send me deep emotions. This man is a milestone for motorsport.
Senna beyond the speed of sound soundtrack for Henry Toivonen, yes:Two absolute champions, two exceptional, kind and humble people, The most beautiful era of F1 and rallies in history has ended with you. We miss you😪🙏
Marv, thank you thank you for sharing this footage of the legend he love so much. You have outdone yourself again mate
No worries mate!!!!! I'am surprised how many views the video has had. I think Henri has that Legendary status like Senna. When they see the name Toivonen it grabs them.
Rest in peace Henri and Sergio 💕
Dangerous and beautiful at the same time... RIP to Henri & Sergio... ❤️❤️❤️
The beginning of the end of the most wonderful time of the rally... rest in peace dear Henry, together with Cresto and the others martyrs of his passion. Group B never forgotten. Thanks Marv, always with unpublished material, somewhere you keep a time machine.Greetings from Chile, genius
Sempre emozionante sentire ancora di voi ....grazie Henri ....grazie Sergio ...
MARVDOGGER2...GRAZIE...Sto piangendo...MITICO HENRI nn meritavi questo. .Ciao amico mio👑👑👑👑👑
Nessuno poteva star davanti a LUI....
Thanks Marv for this and all yours videos, i was born after group B, but see that, y feel the rally in my mind.👍👍👍
Hauntingly beautiful montage. Was too young to appreciate this era, but I now see that it simply couldn't continue. Toivonen and Cresto's death was probably the final straw but in truth Group B was too dangerous on the stages as they existed, and with the total lack of crowd control. The saddest part is surely that they already had a massive lead, all they had to do was to drive relatively conservatively and they would likely have won the rally, reliability permitting? I read of various theories; Toivonen's virus affecting/impairing his driving judgement, rocks placed on the road (which seems implausible because of the danger to any would-be sabbateur), or some sort of abrupt mechanical failure in the steering, suspension or drivetrain. People say that the S4 was a fearsome beast, which only Toivonen could master. Either way, given the entry speed to the corner, and no barrier to deflect the car's trajectory, a severe accident was something which could have befallen any of the cars in the rally on that part of the course. Much criticism came to Lancia because of various (seemingly crazy) design choices associated with the vehicle, e.g. fuel tank underneath the drivers' seat, but I'll bet that many of the rival manufacturers heaved a sigh of relief on the cancellation of Group B. Would a Peugeot or Audi have survived such an extreme crash without killing their pilots? We will never know. The outcome was a tragedy, no doubt about it.
Sono stato un grande tifoso di Henri Toivonen...lui mi ha trasmesso la passione per i rally e quella macchina incredibile che era la Lancia Delta S4
Unforgotten and unforgettable king of the S4. Riposa in pace Henri
Fantastic car and men with big balls..
Rip Sergio Rip Henri
This make me cry...
Rest In Peace Henri Toivonen, you will always be my inspiration
2020. Henri e Sergio we still remember. Rip 🖤🖤
Really sad. Beautiful and emotional movie. RIP
Another great video, thanks! RIP Henri Toivonen.
Quando lo hanno inquadrato per l'ultima volta aveva la stessa faccia preoccupata di Senna il giorno della loro sfortunata scomparsa..sembra sentissero che erano in pericolo con quelle macchine..
Secondo me devi cambiare fornitore..Senna aveva alle spalle due incidenti terribili i giorni immediatamente precedenti la sua tragica fine, di cui uno che ha coinvolto il suo migliore amico e l'altro mortale che ha vissuto in prima persona..Toivonen era solo sotto stress e un pò malaticcio, i due eventi sono assolutamente incomparabili
Caro Marco Polo , nel discorso hai fatto un po’ di confusione. Ti spiego il perché da medico , nel caso di Toivonen non aveva la faccia preoccupata, era solo stanco perché non stava bene aveva la febbre. Di conseguenza non era Lucido nella guida , per guidare auto di quella potenza incredibile da 600 cv devi essere il più lucido possibile , a quei livelli oltre ad essere il miglior pilota.io ho fatto una prova un giorno avevo la febbre a 38 , provai a guidare un auto del pikes peak che hanno oltre i 600 cv Del mio migliore amico ,credimi caro marco mi è stato molto difficile guidarla perché appunto, ero malato e i riflessi erano lenti .Buona giornata
Studi scientifici confermano, ed io concordo, che poche ore prima della propria morte, il ns istinto, o spirito come viene chiamato in Medicina Integrativa, lo avverta e...io concordo con @Marco polo, meno con gli altri che, senza offesa per nessuno, se il medico non avesse avuto la febbre non era semplice cmq guidare 600 cv...per l'altro...no comment.
@@A-frago anche io sono d'accordo con te e con marco polo. L'anno precedente poi sempre in Corsica era morto il grande trentino Attilio Bettega... Forse Toivonen pensava proprio a questo... come forse Senna pensava a Ratzenberger.
In realtà Miki Biasion in un'intervista ha detto che la sera prima lui, Henry e Alen scherzavano ed erano relativamente tranquilli perché le posizioni in classifica erano decisamente definite con Henry saldamente in testa alla gara che poteva tranquillamente amministrare il vantaggio su Saby pertanto sempre a detta di Miki, erano tutti piuttosto tranquilli. Poi magari il malessere di Henry ha influito, oppure è successo qualcosa che non scopriremo mai anche perché la macchina è andata completamente distrutta dal fuoco. Un'altra cosa strana è che secondo Miki, Toivonen è uscito a destra (all'interno della curva) per poi tentare di controllare la delta portandola fuori strada a sinistra dove non essendoci protezioni, è rotolata sotto la strada di qualche metro incendiandosi. Io sono stato sul posto diverse volte e ogni volta rimango incredulo di come si possa morire in una curva così insignificante. Ma purtroppo è andata così e l'equipaggio piu forte del momento se n'è andato.
Those group B days....Awesome men with balls of steel....
Racing in general has become a gay leasure fun way to pass time now...
Toivonen was and still is the greatest rally driver never to win the world championship title....one of my childhood heroes....
RIP great man....
👍😎
Great post...
What’s “gay” got to do with it? Look up the word “cretin”.
What a beautiful video. Thank you.
Thanks a lot for the document.rip Henry.
That was a good era, like today ! Thanks Henri ! A hero
Marv...thank you from the U.S.🇺🇲
Excellent video about the lost moments in the life to Henry Toivonen and his passion in the racer,s cars.
Reace In Peace to him and his copilot Sergio...😢😢
Henri y Sergio, Siempre el corazón de los que amamos los rallies, hasta siempre campeones.
Un des meilleurs pilotes au monde.
1986 à été un drame par 2 fois au moins.....
On vous oublie tjrs pas Henri et sergio
Very good stuff Marv, lot of footage I have not seen, the sight of the crew running back into the stage is truly harrowing, they didn't even go and hep, they just knew.
Once the car left the road. It was game over with the fuel tanks rupturing.
Had the tanks not ruptured Henri and Sergio would probably have lived. The FIA should have made fuel cells mandatory like they did in F1.
I know the reasons why it happened. Just very stark plus the fuel was very explosive, was full of magnesium and the tanks were partly under the seats.
Best part 10:52 to 10:58 ... What a beauty in the air...
A heavenly view
commovente all'inizio l'immagine di Cresto che controlla il cronometro prende la tabella e da l'ok a Henri a partire chiudendo la portiera ..... mi viene da piangere 😢
Io penso che questi piloti siano l'incarnazione del coraggio...vederli correre e volare! a pochi centimetri dai dirupi e dagli alberi...lascia senza fiato...R.I.P
Da appassionato di automobilismo l'ho ricordo quel maledetto rally di Corsica , erano grandi Henri e Sergio
Great video as always from you Marvdogger2.The death of Henri will never leave the minds of us rally fans,never and why or what happened on that day May 2nd 1986.I read recently that Lancia possibly knows more than the public as to why he crashed that day.I believe new evidence has emerged that the throttle had been sticking on all the Lancias and that the drivers had complained, were very worried about the problem but were told to keep quite about it !!! Well with Henri just after being sick,weak,tired and maybe a sticking throttle,in the heat of the cockpit in month of May,who knows what could have or did happen,we'll never know.RIP Henri and Sergio
I barely even know about this sport or this guy and this instantly get to my heart.. what a tragic loss....
The most sad video that I ever seen in my life..
Henri spero Ke le mie lacrime arrivino a te...Amico Grande..piu' di tutti..!
Never been a driver like him again my hero god blessl
To Marvdogger2 Very Thanks for this genuine and important document.....
In this tragic day i have 13 years and the incident shock me for long time...
Gr.B the pure Rally car for very driver, WRC surrogate for all simple driver.....
Masterpiece, thanks
A wonderful tribute to a "Flying Finn" .... thanks Marv.
Muy triste recordar lo que paso ese dia...
Thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Both great guys, Toivonen and Crestos. Sad to lose them, but grateful we had them. RIP boys.
El mejor piloto de todos los tiempo
R.I.P henri
Still feeling so sad😢
un grande, sempre nel cuore
Touching my heart because i consider Henri as a soul brother. Thanx
Sto piangendo..Non meritava..Così. ..povero Enri&Cresto SEMPRE VIVI..!!!! ciao amici miei
RIP this great team, they complete each other..........Toivonen greatest pilot with the greatest "computer".....Sergio Cresto booth will be forever in my memory.
I miss Henri & Sergio so much every passing day. I will never get over their deaths.
R.I.P.
L'unico pilota Che riuscì a portare le S4 al limite, numero uno!
oh poor Henri!
He got so tired he can't even speak
*R.I.P HENRI YOU WILL BE MISSED*
man ,,, I never get over that ...
Quelle émotion.. je n'avais jamais vu ce document..
Henri, I cry for you. You was the driver. Miss you.
Henri Toivonen and Sergio Cresto are still remembered and honored in Finland. Henri's brother Harri was also a rally driver, but didn't succeed as Henri was.
TOIVONEN était un extra terrestre.....que son âme vive à jamais en PAIX..CRESTO mede
Beautiful tribute.
In that last interview he sounds like he is on flu medication and scared.
Awesome awesome video, respectful and full on at the same time. What a story.
Bellissimo video, toccante. Mi ha emozionato. Il problema era che quelle erano Formula 1 che però non correvano in pista... Piloti e navigatori usati come cavie in nome delle corse in attesa di una tragedia inevitabile... RIP Henri e Sergio.
RIP Henri & Sergio