I am 70 years old and live in the UK and this is the first I have known of this, so it just goes to show that by watching your excellent videos, anybody can learn something new.
This sounds like a Bob Newhart telephone skit: "The jewels are in the most heavily-guarded area, right near police headquarters....They were stolen...You built a new strong room for the safe where the jewels were stored...The safe wouldn't fit through the door...did you try knocking the wall down? Oh, that's why they call it a strong room...Where is the safe? It's in the library...These are the people entrusted with the security of the country's most treasured possessions..."
I have not dealt with any UK government contracts but I have seen enough US Military contracts for capital equipment. The company I worked for had approved contract drawings showing our equipment requiring a 220 3 Phase Wye electrical service. As the facility was being finished they determined the electrical service was a Delta. The approval drawing was signed by a PE whose license was as an electrical engineer. That project had other problems. A 20,000lb capacity forklift the had a weight of 20,000 lbs. Remember it’s Government Money not real money.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel My History began in Chicago, Irish of County Kerry, Ireland lineage, and Irish of Basque Orgin. (The data indicates that Counties Kerry and Cork reflects the highest % of Basque DNA, having less influence of Germanic/Vikings, Romans, Anglos, Saxon, Normans, and Jutes, aggressions, due to location in SW Ireland. My degrees include Sociology/Behavioralism, Journalism, and History. I have found myself routinely returning to the subject of Ireland, and I overwhelmingly find myself noting the numbers of: 🔺 inaccuracies in the 20th Century to date, "Mainstream Academic" History "Stories". Having had intense education/focus on Research training, my Advisor having been Head of the Department in Sociology and given Sociologists are the "Worker Bee's" in Research, Statistics, Data Interpretation, and all matter of Studies (particularly those w/o the advantage of Lab based Sciences, requiring a greater effort of care in planning, administering, and conducting Studies to ensure to most valid outcomes.) Thus, intense training in Research Methodologies, and drilling in the "Standards of Science and Research" 🔑 These were further supplemented by "Training in the practice of the Higher Mind aka Mature Mind", (a practice that "Academics of old held as a Requirement" as the "Lower Mind, aka Ego Mind, aka Adolescent Mind" has no place in Academia, "Ethics". "🔺" 🔹 The Human Lower Mind is where all negative thought energies reside: ("fear and fear based thoughts, prejudices, judging and judgemental, jealousy, envy, accusations, pettiness, insecurities , preoccupation with what other's think, etc, the Lackings: lack of self worth, self esteem, self confidence, etc.") The Human"Higher Mind aka Mature Mind" is where all our Positive Thought Energies and Wisdom reside.🔑 Teaching the method of Maturing the Mind: Establishing a habit of being: "Conscious in Thought" + "Applying Higher Mind" ☀️🔑 Using "Discernment rather than Judgemental" 🔑 I came to realize that the Behaviors on a number of "Mainstream Academics" were defining those associated with the "Lower Mind", the criticisms, accusations, and judgemental application of labeling those with "alternative theories" or "findings that didn't support the Mainstream Stories", they would be judged, accused, ridiculed, and labeled as "Psuedoscience/Psuedoscientists" I realized these particular "Mainstream Academics/Archaeologists/Egyptologsts" were those most frequently found in the "Entertainment Documentaries" (those Produced for "Media Audience Numbers/Profits" rather than the focus being for greater Educational, Science, and Collaboratives that included experts from various fields that could offer greater insight and support to the Subject Profiled: Geology and Geophysics, Genetics, Linguists, Sociology, Architecture, Engineering, etc. It became apparent that these "Mainstream Academics/Archaeologists" were literally holding a "19th Century Theory based Paradigm and Linear Timeline as their foundation of fact". This was/is not a wise practice, nor is it in keeping with the "Standards of Science and Research", which prohibits using a Theory as Fact. In summary the "Standards of Science and Research" directs the Researcher to: "With Mind fully Open, free of any predetermined Beliefs, Theories, Opinions, ......... and allowing the Research Methodologies to extract the greater facts." The cornerstone of Academics is the "Freedom of Thoughts", free to imagine and consider possibilities, free to Explore, Evaluate, to Discover". Any interference with this comprises a most concerning situation, and the "Ethics" flag is raised. Perhaps the "Policing of Thought" would be a valuable subject for the body of Western Academics to thinking about ... I've noticed a number of instances where the "Mainstream Academics/Archaeologists" have: ignored Artifacts that don't fit into their "Paradigm", discarded, denied, and destroyed "artifacts", data, and even knowingly, consciously ignore "Peer Reviewed and Journal Published" Science Findings, that doesn't support their "Paradigm ". Done so without even the time to give the subject their attention to become familiar with the Studies, the facts, the Peer Discussions. Reacting rather than Responding. Accusing subjects, absent of any education on the subject, a behavior or "learned ideologies and habits", "taking another's perspective as Fact w/o any 1st hand study or research" (doesn't this remind us of another "Mainstream", ie: the 24hr Cable Mainstream News Medias" whom Foster the Public in Lower Minded Reactions for Profits and Power. Applying the "Psychology of Advertising to Commentary News Programs". "The hearsay vs the researched fact content." Perhaps in our expansion of available resources, we have allowed some overlooking of Values, and the Cornerstones of our predecessors have been allowed to fade, costing us the greater value of facts, cooperation, actual achievements, moving forward with Discoveries, and costing us "Ethical Values". The longer I spend with attention on the subjects with a History of Archaeologists having "created a story that fit their Paradigm, and repeating it so often that they deem it accurate" the more evident that the true "Psuedoscientists", the application of the defined meaning is actually the "Mainstream Academics", for when a Researcher follows the "Standards" and fulfills the exercise of preparing all the requirements for "Peer Review", and the data can be repeated with accurate outcomes ... They are absolutely Authentic in their work, Ethics, and Protocol. They are "Authentic Academics". ... and these "Authentic Academics" using data provided by Geneticists DNA studies, "are Validating what was deemed Myth by "Mainstream Academia", the Irish, Basque (origin, and with a direct line in DNA evidence to the Levant aka the Danites! ahhhhh ... What a beautiful History discovery. No wonder Ashland Jew showed up in my family's DNA. There are so many History subjects to be revealed through DNA! I have held this knowledge potential for several years and it is proving to be Now that it is unfolding! What a Delicious Time and Feelings for us "Mature Minded" + " Authentic Academics"! I just had to share this story with another whom I know will understand the value of it. Best Thoughts! Beth Bartlett Sociologist/Behavioralist and Historian W Tennessee, USA GO IRISH !!! ☘️ GO CUBS - GO !!!!!!!!! 🐾⚾🧢 pre edit
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel (You're going to be surprised by this story) My History began in Chicago, Irish of County Kerry, Ireland lineage, and Irish of Basque Orgin. (The data indicates that Counties Kerry and Cork reflects the highest % of Basque DNA, having less influence of Germanic/Vikings, Romans, Anglos, Saxon, Normans, and Jutes, aggressions, due to location in SW Ireland. My degrees include Sociology/Behavioralism, Journalism, and History. I have found myself routinely returning to the subject of Ireland, and I overwhelmingly find myself noting the numbers of: 🔺 inaccuracies in the 20th Century to date, "Mainstream Academic" History "Stories". Having had intense education/focus on Research training, my Advisor having been Head of the Department in Sociology and given Sociologists are the "Worker Bee's" in Research, Statistics, Data Interpretation, and all matter of Studies (particularly those w/o the advantage of Lab based Sciences, requiring a greater effort of care in planning, administering, and conducting Studies to ensure to most valid outcomes.) Thus, intense training in Research Methodologies, and drilling in the "Standards of Science and Research" 🔑 These were further supplemented by "Training in the practice of the Higher Mind aka Mature Mind", (a practice that "Academics of old held as a Requirement" as the "Lower Mind, aka Ego Mind, aka Adolescent Mind" has no place in Academia, "Ethics". "🔺" 🔹 The Human Lower Mind is where all negative thought energies reside: ("fear and fear based thoughts, prejudices, judging and judgemental, jealousy, envy, accusations, pettiness, insecurities , preoccupation with what other's think, etc, the Lackings: lack of self worth, self esteem, self confidence, etc.") The Human"Higher Mind aka Mature Mind" is where all our Positive Thought Energies and Wisdom reside.🔑 Teaching the method of Maturing the Mind: Establishing a habit of being: "Conscious in Thought" + "Applying Higher Mind" ☀️🔑 Using "Discernment rather than Judgemental" 🔑 I came to realize that the Behaviors on a number of "Mainstream Academics" were defining those associated with the "Lower Mind", the criticisms, accusations, and judgemental application of labeling those with "alternative theories" or "findings that didn't support the Mainstream Stories", they would be judged, accused, ridiculed, and labeled as "Psuedoscience/Psuedoscientists" I realized these particular "Mainstream Academics/Archaeologists/Egyptologsts" were those most frequently found in the "Entertainment Documentaries" (those Produced for "Media Audience Numbers/Profits" rather than the focus being for greater Educational, Science, and Collaboratives that included experts from various fields that could offer greater insight and support to the Subject Profiled: Geology and Geophysics, Genetics, Linguists, Sociology, Architecture, Engineering, etc. It became apparent that these "Mainstream Academics/Archaeologists" were literally holding a "19th Century Theory based Paradigm and Linear Timeline as their foundation of fact". This was/is not a wise practice, nor is it in keeping with the "Standards of Science and Research", which prohibits using a Theory as Fact. In summary the "Standards of Science and Research" directs the Researcher to: "With Mind fully Open, free of any predetermined Beliefs, Theories, Opinions, ......... and allowing the Research Methodologies to extract the greater facts." The cornerstone of Academics is the "Freedom of Thoughts", free to imagine and consider possibilities, free to Explore, Evaluate, to Discover". Any interference with this comprises a most concerning situation, and the "Ethics" flag is raised. Perhaps the "Policing of Thought" would be a valuable subject for the body of Western Academics to thinking about ... I've noticed a number of instances where the "Mainstream Academics/Archaeologists" have: ignored Artifacts that don't fit into their "Paradigm", discarded, denied, and destroyed "artifacts", data, and even knowingly, consciously ignore "Peer Reviewed and Journal Published" Science Findings, that doesn't support their "Paradigm ". Done so without even the time to give the subject their attention to become familiar with the Studies, the facts, the Peer Discussions. Reacting rather than Responding. Accusing subjects, absent of any education on the subject, a behavior or "learned ideologies and habits", "taking another's perspective as Fact w/o any 1st hand study or research" (doesn't this remind us of another "Mainstream", ie: the 24hr Cable Mainstream News Medias" whom Foster the Public in Lower Minded Reactions for Profits and Power. Applying the "Psychology of Advertising to Commentary News Programs". "The hearsay vs the researched fact content." Perhaps in our expansion of available resources, we have allowed some overlooking of Values, and the Cornerstones of our predecessors have been allowed to fade, costing us the greater value of facts, cooperation, actual achievements, moving forward with Discoveries, and costing us "Ethical Values". The longer I spend with attention on the subjects with a History of Archaeologists having "created a story that fit their Paradigm, and repeating it so often that they deem it accurate" the more evident that the true "Psuedoscientists", the application of the defined meaning is actually the "Mainstream Academics", for when a Researcher follows the "Standards" and fulfills the exercise of preparing all the requirements for "Peer Review", and the data can be repeated with accurate outcomes ... They are absolutely Authentic in their work, Ethics, and Protocol. They are "Authentic Academics". ... and these "Authentic Academics" using data provided by Geneticists DNA studies, "are Validating what was deemed Myth by "Mainstream Academia", the Irish, Basque (origin, and with a direct line in DNA evidence to the Levant aka the Danites! ahhhhh ... What a beautiful History discovery. No wonder Ashland Jew showed up in my family's DNA. There are so many History subjects to be revealed through DNA! I have held this knowledge potential for several years and it is proving to be Now that it is unfolding! What a Delicious Time and Feelings for us "Mature Minded" + " Authentic Academics"! I just had to share this story with another whom I know will understand the value of it. Best Thoughts! Beth Bartlett Sociologist/Behavioralist and Historian W Tennessee, USA GO IRISH !!! ☘️ GO CUBS - GO !!!!!!!!! 🐾⚾🧢
Seems most likely that the jewels were never returned to the safe after that last use because between that point and the finding that they were missing, the safe was never inspected.
While Arthur and his men were searching the countryside for the missing crown jewels, they came across a castle full of French-accented soldiers, who claimed that "they already have some!"
Ah monty pyton! Reckon the the Vikings had removed such treasures centuries before!! Just another political religious excuse to maintain control unfortunately them days. Any wonder for a small Island they are known and celebrated all over the world. On 17th March for a Welch man, shepard that moved to France then brought catholisism back to Ireland ,drank Potíeen climbed a mountain barefoot and claimed to have found God.Some story ! The rest of the country whist toiling an rolling around in the mud needed such intervention an thus embraced it ! ...Then came the age of multi countries politicians to dilute it further ! Life an stories..😅 gotta love it!
Jewels regularly pawned by a senior official sounds the most likely. I can picture the person short of money and pawning them, each time recovering them but that one time they just can’t get the money together. A pawnbroker who took them wouldn’t want to shout about it so breaks them up, melts the metal and no one ever sees the whole pieces again.
One small gripe: That's not how "O'Mahony" is pronounced. It doesn't rhyme with "Baloney." The stress on Mahony is similar to the stress on the word "vanity."
I think you should have mentioned the "Shackleton Injunction" that prevented the mention of their name being used in any publication, or report, discussing this particular theft. Reporting restrictions were only lifted fairly recently !
I am 80 years old and have never heard of this. My great grandparents were from viking Ireland and never talked about this. Watching your great videos makes mr learn so much.
Something like that happened recently. Government ordered a new printing machine replacement only to find that the room for it was too small and structurally unfit. What a waste.
Today would have been Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's 165th birthday. Sherlock Holmes was in retirement in 1907, keeping bees on the Sussex downs; he handled The Adventure of the Lion's Mane that year, which didn't require him to travel. If he was asked to help investigate the case of the Irish crown jewels, he must have turned down the request, or was unsuccessful, and Dr. Watson regarded it as prudent not to mention the great detective's involvement.
Strong language with, "no chance", but I get your point. Even if they were taken by one of the insiders, they may have panicked and decided money was more important than honour/principle. Maybe a 5% chance they were broken up for money and also destroy evidence. 95% chance they are hidden somewhere.
Nah. While more valuable assembled, they could never be sold. the individual gems could easily though. It is doubtless it was broken up and sold off. No matter how valuable something could be, if you can't sell it, it has no real value.
The story behind the safe and the strong room doesn't surprise me one little bit. In the mid 1990s, I spent some time working on a project at a European bank in Tokyo. The bank, regulated by the Ministry of Finance (the MOF), was required to compile and store various hard-copy regulatory reports for a set period of time, newer reports replacing older ones as time went on. The requirements specified that the reports had to be kept in a fireproof, lockable safe in a room away from normal operations. The problem was, that as time went on, the physical size of the reports got bigger and bigger, but the safe wasn't expandable, and so, in order to satisfy the requirements, the staff at the bank pushed and shoved the reports into the fireproof, lockable safe, but just left the door ajar because they couldn't close it owing to the reports spilling out.
The British Crown had a lot of enemies in Ireland in 1907. The Irish rebels, later known as the IRA, had infiltrated the police and all departments of government in Ireland. It thus would not have been all that difficult for the Irish nationalist underground to have made use of a civil servant or police officer who was secretly, and unknown to his superiors in the British-led government of Ireland a nationalist agent to have stolen the jewels, and used them to finance revolutionary activites.
I remember a mate being questioned in court back in the early seventies. He was asked by the judge whether he was, "in fact, a practising homosexual?" He answered, "Very practiced, your honour!"
Nice call back to Messrs Cranston and Paul! Mr Paul grew up in my area, Boise, Id!! Not sure about Watley the dentist who took a pull on the nitrous just before commencing work on patient, Jerry!
It was not a "State" Visit. Back then, as you said, all of the island of Ireland was part of the United Kingdom. It was no more a State Visit than it would have been if Edward VII travelled from London to Scotland or Wales.
Again, a highly interesting event previously unknown to me. Real history as good as any novel. Now that Ireland is independent, could these jewels appear again... perhaps as silently and mysteriously as they disappeared? Now there is a fun concept for a novel. Thanks again, THG.
My great uncle was a very naughty boy, about that time. His first hiest? An entire lighter(unpowered barge) full of tea. He needed the money because Great Aunt had cervical cancer, and required a very expensive operation. After that, he was the guy who invented the classic "car ringing" gang. I miss the crazy old sod.
It would be nice to have a panel to discussion. On what could have to have improve and PREPARE, for the D-day landing. Stupidity took a lot of life. Passing the buck and getting the men not getting ready.
The key to the safe is key as it wasnt broken into. The guy holding the keys to it left one on a key ring in his office, with other office keys.....which a maid later returned them to the chief heralds office, through a male servant......so many of the staff in this building could have accessed the key and made a copy, or used it, as the safe wasnt checked on a regular basis. If pawned or sold, that kind of money in a staff member would have been noticed over time, so my guess is they buried them somewhere safe waiting for the heat to die down, and probably passed away before they could dig them up again, hence them never being found....
How could it ever be reasonable to leave the crown jewels 'outside' of a strongroom? Whoever okayed that phenomenally stupid idea should've been fired for such an asinine concept. The door of the strongroom is too 'small'? Hire a carpenter to create a set of secure doors, frikin' genius! Protected by a single lock and key, that reflects contemptuous disregard. Only someone with intimate knowledge of where the jewels were kept could've performed the crime, given the lack of evidence.
The story in Dublin is that the jewels were buried in the Dublin/Wicklow mountains with the intention of being recovered. And that they were stolen by Republicans. My guess is they were broken up (easier to transport), or if they were hidden they were buried somewhere like Phoenix park, where they could be watched without raising suspicion (and if recovered by police the presence of the viceroy's residence and several army barracks would make it extremely embarrassing.)
It was possibly the same group that about 100 years later nicked the Portuguese Crown Jewels from a museum in The Hague, as they'd arrived there on loan. 😆
There were actually green clovers. The diamonds were white, not blue. And yes, quite possibly they were taken simply because they represented a pot of gold for the thief.
Hey History Guy! I asked some time ago, but I would be interested to see a video about the only US Vice President to write the music for a #1 Billboard song.
Charles Dawes. But it is not so simple as that, the hit was a cover almost fifty years later. Now who is the only US President to hit a hole-in-one? It was not Ike.
Summer of 1907 also marked a turning point in the shipping world 🌎🌍, Lusitania was about to make her maiden voyage and her sister ship ⚓🚢 Mauritania would follow after and the idea 💡 for the Olympic class of ships was proposed by Bruce Ismay and William Pierre ( who was a viceroce for Ireland)! 16:09
Beauty contests are becoming a popular way to promote things. For instance, the winner of the Trigonometry Club's beauty pageant was crowned.... Miss Calculation. Tour Leader pageant winner... Miss Guided Encyclopedia Brittanica pageant winner... Miss Information
No burglers, no teefs. It was an inside job. I find it strange that if they couldn't publicly prosecute and secure them.... they had no power to privately/discreetly secure their return? Take 3 of the biggest suspects into a basement and go to work with pliers and a blow torch. Gentlemen didn't do that sort of thing?
There is a private museum in Boston (I think) that had a robbery in the 80's or 90's, and those items have never been recovered. Someone can help me with the details
The jewels came from other British badges and jewelry, and they've gone back into other British jewels and jewelry. Everything Britain has done with Ireland has been subversive
I am 70 years old and live in the UK and this is the first I have known of this, so it just goes to show that by watching your excellent videos, anybody can learn something new.
sure not many brits know history its like americans trying to point out nations on a map
@@Diksjim We're getting better though. 🙃
My mind reels at the brilliance of building a strong room without first making sure that the safe could be put in the room.
I know!
The strongest room is one that no one and nothing can get in or out of!
This sounds like a Bob Newhart telephone skit: "The jewels are in the most heavily-guarded area, right near police headquarters....They were stolen...You built a new strong room for the safe where the jewels were stored...The safe wouldn't fit through the door...did you try knocking the wall down? Oh, that's why they call it a strong room...Where is the safe? It's in the library...These are the people entrusted with the security of the country's most treasured possessions..."
I have not dealt with any UK government contracts but I have seen enough US Military contracts for capital equipment. The company I worked for had approved contract drawings showing our equipment requiring a 220 3 Phase Wye electrical service. As the facility was being finished they determined the electrical service was a Delta. The approval drawing was signed by a PE whose license was as an electrical engineer. That project had other problems. A 20,000lb capacity forklift the had a weight of 20,000 lbs.
Remember it’s Government Money not real money.
Not the first time this has happened.
I have to admit stolen art mysteries is one my favorite history subjects
First place I'd check would be the British Museum .
And they have lost quite a few items, too! 😅
Dead on!
I thought something similar, better check Buckingham Palace.
Wouldn't surprise me.
What a theft. The absolute nerve needed to pull that off.
Maybe you mean, what theft?
Professor Moriarty? LoL
@@greggweber9967 Sir Peter Blood
Definitely an inside job. Too clean, perfect media stories. Sway back and forth on who’s to blame, then poof 💨, something shiny. What jewels. 😆
Aren’t those the crown jewels?
No, it’s me lucky charms !
I'm surprised that The History Guy didn't mention the possibility of pirates being involved. Don't all good stories include pirates? LOL
Well, a newspaper did speculate that it was done by Americans bent on “plunder.”
Good point but any damn fool knows it was the Templars. For certain.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel
My History began in Chicago, Irish of County Kerry, Ireland lineage, and Irish of Basque Orgin. (The data indicates that Counties Kerry and Cork reflects the highest % of Basque DNA, having less influence of Germanic/Vikings, Romans, Anglos, Saxon, Normans, and Jutes, aggressions, due to location in SW Ireland.
My degrees include Sociology/Behavioralism, Journalism, and History.
I have found myself routinely returning to the subject of Ireland, and I overwhelmingly find myself noting the numbers of:
🔺 inaccuracies in the 20th Century to date, "Mainstream Academic" History "Stories".
Having had intense education/focus on Research training, my Advisor having been Head of the Department in Sociology and given Sociologists are the "Worker Bee's" in Research, Statistics, Data Interpretation, and all matter of Studies (particularly those w/o the advantage of Lab based Sciences, requiring a greater effort of care in planning, administering, and conducting Studies to ensure to most valid outcomes.)
Thus, intense training in Research Methodologies, and drilling in the "Standards of Science and Research" 🔑
These were further supplemented by "Training in the practice of the Higher Mind aka Mature Mind", (a practice that "Academics of old held as a Requirement" as the "Lower Mind, aka Ego Mind, aka Adolescent Mind" has no place in Academia, "Ethics". "🔺"
🔹 The Human Lower Mind is where all negative thought energies reside: ("fear and fear based thoughts, prejudices, judging and judgemental, jealousy, envy, accusations, pettiness, insecurities , preoccupation with what other's think, etc, the Lackings: lack of self worth, self esteem, self confidence, etc.")
The Human"Higher Mind aka Mature Mind" is where all our Positive Thought Energies and Wisdom reside.🔑
Teaching the method of Maturing the Mind:
Establishing a habit of being:
"Conscious in Thought" +
"Applying Higher Mind" ☀️🔑
Using "Discernment rather than Judgemental" 🔑
I came to realize that the Behaviors on a number of "Mainstream Academics" were defining those associated with the "Lower Mind", the criticisms, accusations, and judgemental application of labeling those with "alternative theories" or "findings that didn't support the Mainstream Stories", they would be judged, accused, ridiculed, and labeled as "Psuedoscience/Psuedoscientists"
I realized these particular "Mainstream Academics/Archaeologists/Egyptologsts" were those most frequently found in the "Entertainment Documentaries" (those Produced for "Media Audience Numbers/Profits" rather than the focus being for greater Educational, Science, and Collaboratives that included experts from various fields that could offer greater insight and support to the Subject Profiled: Geology and Geophysics, Genetics, Linguists, Sociology, Architecture, Engineering, etc.
It became apparent that these "Mainstream Academics/Archaeologists" were literally holding a "19th Century Theory based Paradigm and Linear Timeline as their foundation of fact". This was/is not a wise practice, nor is it in keeping with the "Standards of Science and Research", which prohibits using a Theory as Fact.
In summary the "Standards of Science and Research" directs the Researcher to:
"With Mind fully Open, free of any predetermined Beliefs, Theories, Opinions, ......... and allowing the Research Methodologies to extract the greater facts."
The cornerstone of Academics is the "Freedom of Thoughts", free to imagine and consider possibilities, free to Explore, Evaluate, to Discover".
Any interference with this comprises a most concerning situation, and the "Ethics" flag is raised.
Perhaps the "Policing of Thought" would be a valuable subject for the body of Western Academics to thinking about ...
I've noticed a number of instances where the "Mainstream Academics/Archaeologists" have: ignored Artifacts that don't fit into their "Paradigm", discarded, denied, and destroyed "artifacts", data, and even knowingly, consciously ignore "Peer Reviewed and Journal Published" Science Findings, that doesn't support their "Paradigm ".
Done so without even the time to give the subject their attention to become familiar with the Studies, the facts, the Peer Discussions.
Reacting rather than Responding. Accusing subjects, absent of any education on the subject, a behavior or "learned ideologies and habits", "taking another's perspective as Fact w/o any 1st hand study or research" (doesn't this remind us of another "Mainstream", ie: the 24hr Cable Mainstream News Medias" whom Foster the Public in Lower Minded Reactions for Profits and Power. Applying the "Psychology of Advertising to Commentary News Programs".
"The hearsay vs the researched fact content."
Perhaps in our expansion of available resources, we have allowed some overlooking of Values, and the Cornerstones of our predecessors have been allowed to fade, costing us the greater value of facts, cooperation, actual achievements, moving forward with Discoveries, and costing us "Ethical Values".
The longer I spend with attention on the subjects with a History of Archaeologists having "created a story that fit their Paradigm, and repeating it so often that they deem it accurate" the more evident that the true "Psuedoscientists", the application of the defined meaning is actually the "Mainstream Academics", for when a Researcher follows the "Standards" and fulfills the exercise of preparing all the requirements for "Peer Review", and the data can be repeated with accurate outcomes ... They are absolutely Authentic in their work, Ethics, and Protocol.
They are "Authentic Academics".
... and these "Authentic Academics" using data provided by Geneticists DNA studies, "are Validating what was deemed Myth by "Mainstream Academia", the Irish, Basque (origin, and with a direct line in DNA evidence to the Levant aka the Danites!
ahhhhh ...
What a beautiful History discovery.
No wonder Ashland Jew showed up in my family's DNA.
There are so many History subjects to be revealed through DNA! I have held this knowledge potential for several years and it is proving to be Now that it is unfolding!
What a Delicious Time and Feelings for us "Mature Minded" + " Authentic Academics"!
I just had to share this story with another whom I know will understand the value of it.
Best Thoughts!
Beth Bartlett
Sociologist/Behavioralist
and Historian
W Tennessee, USA
GO IRISH !!! ☘️
GO CUBS - GO !!!!!!!!! 🐾⚾🧢
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@@TheHistoryGuyChannel
(You're going to be surprised by this story)
My History began in Chicago, Irish of County Kerry, Ireland lineage, and Irish of Basque Orgin. (The data indicates that Counties Kerry and Cork reflects the highest % of Basque DNA, having less influence of Germanic/Vikings, Romans, Anglos, Saxon, Normans, and Jutes, aggressions, due to location in SW Ireland.
My degrees include Sociology/Behavioralism, Journalism, and History.
I have found myself routinely returning to the subject of Ireland, and I overwhelmingly find myself noting the numbers of:
🔺 inaccuracies in the 20th Century to date, "Mainstream Academic" History "Stories".
Having had intense education/focus on Research training, my Advisor having been Head of the Department in Sociology and given Sociologists are the "Worker Bee's" in Research, Statistics, Data Interpretation, and all matter of Studies (particularly those w/o the advantage of Lab based Sciences, requiring a greater effort of care in planning, administering, and conducting Studies to ensure to most valid outcomes.)
Thus, intense training in Research Methodologies, and drilling in the "Standards of Science and Research" 🔑
These were further supplemented by "Training in the practice of the Higher Mind aka Mature Mind", (a practice that "Academics of old held as a Requirement" as the "Lower Mind, aka Ego Mind, aka Adolescent Mind" has no place in Academia, "Ethics". "🔺"
🔹 The Human Lower Mind is where all negative thought energies reside: ("fear and fear based thoughts, prejudices, judging and judgemental, jealousy, envy, accusations, pettiness, insecurities , preoccupation with what other's think, etc, the Lackings: lack of self worth, self esteem, self confidence, etc.")
The Human"Higher Mind aka Mature Mind" is where all our Positive Thought Energies and Wisdom reside.🔑
Teaching the method of Maturing the Mind:
Establishing a habit of being:
"Conscious in Thought" +
"Applying Higher Mind" ☀️🔑
Using "Discernment rather than Judgemental" 🔑
I came to realize that the Behaviors on a number of "Mainstream Academics" were defining those associated with the "Lower Mind", the criticisms, accusations, and judgemental application of labeling those with "alternative theories" or "findings that didn't support the Mainstream Stories", they would be judged, accused, ridiculed, and labeled as "Psuedoscience/Psuedoscientists"
I realized these particular "Mainstream Academics/Archaeologists/Egyptologsts" were those most frequently found in the "Entertainment Documentaries" (those Produced for "Media Audience Numbers/Profits" rather than the focus being for greater Educational, Science, and Collaboratives that included experts from various fields that could offer greater insight and support to the Subject Profiled: Geology and Geophysics, Genetics, Linguists, Sociology, Architecture, Engineering, etc.
It became apparent that these "Mainstream Academics/Archaeologists" were literally holding a "19th Century Theory based Paradigm and Linear Timeline as their foundation of fact". This was/is not a wise practice, nor is it in keeping with the "Standards of Science and Research", which prohibits using a Theory as Fact.
In summary the "Standards of Science and Research" directs the Researcher to:
"With Mind fully Open, free of any predetermined Beliefs, Theories, Opinions, ......... and allowing the Research Methodologies to extract the greater facts."
The cornerstone of Academics is the "Freedom of Thoughts", free to imagine and consider possibilities, free to Explore, Evaluate, to Discover".
Any interference with this comprises a most concerning situation, and the "Ethics" flag is raised.
Perhaps the "Policing of Thought" would be a valuable subject for the body of Western Academics to thinking about ...
I've noticed a number of instances where the "Mainstream Academics/Archaeologists" have: ignored Artifacts that don't fit into their "Paradigm", discarded, denied, and destroyed "artifacts", data, and even knowingly, consciously ignore "Peer Reviewed and Journal Published" Science Findings, that doesn't support their "Paradigm ".
Done so without even the time to give the subject their attention to become familiar with the Studies, the facts, the Peer Discussions.
Reacting rather than Responding. Accusing subjects, absent of any education on the subject, a behavior or "learned ideologies and habits", "taking another's perspective as Fact w/o any 1st hand study or research" (doesn't this remind us of another "Mainstream", ie: the 24hr Cable Mainstream News Medias" whom Foster the Public in Lower Minded Reactions for Profits and Power. Applying the "Psychology of Advertising to Commentary News Programs".
"The hearsay vs the researched fact content."
Perhaps in our expansion of available resources, we have allowed some overlooking of Values, and the Cornerstones of our predecessors have been allowed to fade, costing us the greater value of facts, cooperation, actual achievements, moving forward with Discoveries, and costing us "Ethical Values".
The longer I spend with attention on the subjects with a History of Archaeologists having "created a story that fit their Paradigm, and repeating it so often that they deem it accurate" the more evident that the true "Psuedoscientists", the application of the defined meaning is actually the "Mainstream Academics", for when a Researcher follows the "Standards" and fulfills the exercise of preparing all the requirements for "Peer Review", and the data can be repeated with accurate outcomes ... They are absolutely Authentic in their work, Ethics, and Protocol.
They are "Authentic Academics".
... and these "Authentic Academics" using data provided by Geneticists DNA studies, "are Validating what was deemed Myth by "Mainstream Academia", the Irish, Basque (origin, and with a direct line in DNA evidence to the Levant aka the Danites!
ahhhhh ...
What a beautiful History discovery.
No wonder Ashland Jew showed up in my family's DNA.
There are so many History subjects to be revealed through DNA! I have held this knowledge potential for several years and it is proving to be Now that it is unfolding!
What a Delicious Time and Feelings for us "Mature Minded" + " Authentic Academics"!
I just had to share this story with another whom I know will understand the value of it.
Best Thoughts!
Beth Bartlett
Sociologist/Behavioralist
and Historian
W Tennessee, USA
GO IRISH !!! ☘️
GO CUBS - GO !!!!!!!!! 🐾⚾🧢
Well, don't look at me....I didn't take 'em !🤑
My 8 year old daughter is now hooked on The History Guy! Between her and my self you can always hear Lance in my house
That's awesome. I love history, it's so great to hear your daughter is into it as well.
Seems most likely that the jewels were never returned to the safe after that last use because between that point and the finding that they were missing, the safe was never inspected.
While Arthur and his men were searching the countryside for the missing crown jewels, they came across a castle full of French-accented soldiers, who claimed that "they already have some!"
Ah monty pyton!
Reckon the the Vikings had removed such treasures centuries before!! Just another political religious excuse to maintain control unfortunately them days.
Any wonder for a small Island they are known and celebrated all over the world.
On 17th March for a Welch man, shepard that moved to France then brought catholisism back to Ireland ,drank Potíeen climbed a mountain barefoot and claimed to have found God.Some story !
The rest of the country whist toiling an rolling around in the mud needed such intervention an thus embraced it !
...Then came the age of multi countries politicians to dilute it further !
Life an stories..😅 gotta love it!
Watch out -- they have a cowapult!
Excusez-moi -- I meant cow-tapult!
"Your father is a large aquatic mammal, and your mother smells of elderberries!"
I wonder was it an inside job . NO ,a loyal British citizen would NEVER steal irish gold . Would they ?
Jewels regularly pawned by a senior official sounds the most likely. I can picture the person short of money and pawning them, each time recovering them but that one time they just can’t get the money together. A pawnbroker who took them wouldn’t want to shout about it so breaks them up, melts the metal and no one ever sees the whole pieces again.
Why is the Pink Panther Theme playing in my head?
Tinnitus?
😂😅
Because that's kiiiinda what this was like.
Fascinating, thank you for another great episode!
One small gripe: That's not how "O'Mahony" is pronounced. It doesn't rhyme with "Baloney." The stress on Mahony is similar to the stress on the word "vanity."
Dublin Castle is still used as Irish Government offices. Area open to the public. Last there around 30 years ago.
Sounds like a good maguffin for a spin-off National Treasure movie!
A good cup of coffee, a cigarette, and THG. 😎
Right there with ya....cough!
An Irish coffee!
It was a pleasent suprise to here the local paper reffered to here, the Stoke Sentinel which is still in print today .
I bet ya the guy chuckled at that motto as he was crudely prying out all those jewels
We think alike!
I think you should have mentioned the "Shackleton Injunction" that prevented the mention of their name being used in any publication, or report, discussing this particular theft.
Reporting restrictions were only lifted fairly recently !
I am 80 years old and have never heard of this. My great grandparents were from viking Ireland and never talked about this. Watching your great videos makes mr learn so much.
Rather amusing how pointless the strong room ended up being.
Like the recent focus on historical thefts
I love heist stories. Especially unsolved!
LOVE the green bow tie!!!
I wonder if The Doctor was involved.
Something like that happened recently. Government ordered a new printing machine replacement only to find that the room for it was too small and structurally unfit. What a waste.
Interesting, thank you!
Today would have been Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's 165th birthday. Sherlock Holmes was in retirement in 1907, keeping bees on the Sussex downs; he handled The Adventure of the Lion's Mane that year, which didn't require him to travel. If he was asked to help investigate the case of the Irish crown jewels, he must have turned down the request, or was unsuccessful, and Dr. Watson regarded it as prudent not to mention the great detective's involvement.
I hope the jewels are still intact, more exciting to think of them somewhere on a beautiful woman. Thanks
Such things never truly disappear nor is there any chance they get broken up. Those jewels are safely put away on some country estate.
I agree. They are worth fat more as Crown Jewels than as simply “jewels”.
For one thing, as long as they are “alive”, they can be held hostage.
Strong language with, "no chance", but I get your point. Even if they were taken by one of the insiders, they may have panicked and decided money was more important than honour/principle. Maybe a 5% chance they were broken up for money and also destroy evidence. 95% chance they are hidden somewhere.
Nah. While more valuable assembled, they could never be sold. the individual gems could easily though. It is doubtless it was broken up and sold off. No matter how valuable something could be, if you can't sell it, it has no real value.
The story behind the safe and the strong room doesn't surprise me one little bit. In the mid 1990s, I spent some time working on a project at a European bank in Tokyo. The bank, regulated by the Ministry of Finance (the MOF), was required to compile and store various hard-copy regulatory reports for a set period of time, newer reports replacing older ones as time went on. The requirements specified that the reports had to be kept in a fireproof, lockable safe in a room away from normal operations. The problem was, that as time went on, the physical size of the reports got bigger and bigger, but the safe wasn't expandable, and so, in order to satisfy the requirements, the staff at the bank pushed and shoved the reports into the fireproof, lockable safe, but just left the door ajar because they couldn't close it owing to the reports spilling out.
The little people no doubt.
I appreciate you and thank you for making content.
Interestingly enough the Imperial Crown of Russia was stored in Ireland as collateral on a Russian loan and forgotten in a filing cabinet
The British Crown had a lot of enemies in Ireland in 1907. The Irish rebels, later known as the IRA, had infiltrated the police and all departments of government in Ireland. It thus would not have been all that difficult for the Irish nationalist underground to have made use of a civil servant or police officer who was secretly, and unknown to his superiors in the British-led government of Ireland a nationalist agent to have stolen the jewels, and used them to finance revolutionary activites.
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I remember a mate being questioned in court back in the early seventies. He was asked by the judge whether he was, "in fact, a practising homosexual?"
He answered, "Very practiced, your honour!"
Oh somebody is sitting on a whole pile of antiquities. It's shocking.
Thank you History Guy
Roland Huntford has a chapter on the theft of the Irish Crown Jewels in his biography of Sir Ernest Shackleton.
Someone’s gambling debt.
In hushed tones, 'ehh, I know a guy, that can help wit dat!
good morning THG.
"Jesus Christ Marie! They're Minerals!"
-- Hank Schrader
Nice call back to Messrs Cranston and Paul! Mr Paul grew up in my area, Boise, Id!! Not sure about Watley the dentist who took a pull on the nitrous just before commencing work on patient, Jerry!
Seriously do you think it's fair to bring the Name of our Lord JESUS CHRIST down to the level a swearword?
@@sallycarroll6329 I did not write Breaking Bad, but Yes. Yes I do think it is fair.
Love today's themed bow tie.
King Arthur's round table was probably the world's first knight club.
I was told that it was an inside job broken up and sold but nothing ever proved.
I believe the pronunciation of “O’Mahoney” is actually more like “O’Manny.”
I'd say it like "O mah heh knee" rapidly so yeah O'Manny is good
@garywagner2466, No. It is pronounced O' Mah-han-ee with emphasis on second and third
Our upper classes are always banging on about how tasteful they are, then you get to see all the tom foolery, pour diamonds on it!
Well done. You should review the Newgrange monuments in County Meath, Ireland? They are older than the Pyramids!
It was not a "State" Visit. Back then, as you said, all of the island of Ireland was part of the United Kingdom. It was no more a State Visit than it would have been if Edward VII travelled from London to Scotland or Wales.
History guy,theres only one explanation that makes common sense.A police officer that had acess stole them,for someone else,and had a nice payday.
Very fishy! Someone in the know was behind the theft.
Anything involving the title 'Grand Master' makes me nervous
Wild Flowers, Tales so fitting!!
Things that make you say whom.
Love the TARDIS and Dalek on your shelf!!
I like the Robot from “Lost in space “
There had to be privateers involved somewhere in all this.
Sometimes, crime actually does pay.
Never heard about this on this side of world!
Love the green bowtie homage!
No lock will keep out a determined thief... A month to make a getaway in a time when travel was measured in weeks...
Again, a highly interesting event previously unknown to me. Real history as good as any novel. Now that Ireland is independent, could these jewels appear again... perhaps as silently and mysteriously as they disappeared? Now there is a fun concept for a novel. Thanks again, THG.
Good morning! 👋🏽😊
I’ve been trying for years to find out who did this
Ireland is cool.
So that's what bought all the arms for The Easter Uprising!
Thank you for the lesson.
Well well well what a big deal all of that must have been and i guess still is....Thank THG🎀
My great uncle was a very naughty boy, about that time. His first hiest? An entire lighter(unpowered barge) full of tea. He needed the money because Great Aunt had cervical cancer, and required a very expensive operation. After that, he was the guy who invented the classic "car ringing" gang. I miss the crazy old sod.
It would be nice to have a panel to discussion. On what could have to have improve and PREPARE, for the D-day landing. Stupidity took a lot of life. Passing the buck and getting the men not getting ready.
Good Wednesday morning History Guy and everyone watching...Class is back in session...@Lance, what's the black spot on your upper right lip??
Hmm? A bit of distraction for a moment. Evidence of a too close shave?🤔
Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that! You can't 'unsee' such things....
History booger
I wondered that too! Looks like dried blood from a shaving nick.
The key to the safe is key as it wasnt broken into. The guy holding the keys to it left one on a key ring in his office, with other office keys.....which a maid later returned them to the chief heralds office, through a male servant......so many of the staff in this building could have accessed the key and made a copy, or used it, as the safe wasnt checked on a regular basis. If pawned or sold, that kind of money in a staff member would have been noticed over time, so my guess is they buried them somewhere safe waiting for the heat to die down, and probably passed away before they could dig them up again, hence them never being found....
I want one of those hats they're wearing!
How could it ever be reasonable to leave the crown jewels 'outside' of a strongroom? Whoever okayed that phenomenally stupid idea should've been fired for such an asinine concept. The door of the strongroom is too 'small'? Hire a carpenter to create a set of secure doors, frikin' genius! Protected by a single lock and key, that reflects contemptuous disregard. Only someone with intimate knowledge of where the jewels were kept could've performed the crime, given the lack of evidence.
Yes, the story is a study in complacency and poor decision making.
@TheHistoryGuyChannel Agreed, sir. Yet being partly descendant of the Irish and a vet, I've a bit of baggage with the 'Limeys'.
They should have put Inspector Harry “Snapper” Organs on the case.
The story in Dublin is that the jewels were buried in the Dublin/Wicklow mountains with the intention of being recovered. And that they were stolen by Republicans. My guess is they were broken up (easier to transport), or if they were hidden they were buried somewhere like Phoenix park, where they could be watched without raising suspicion (and if recovered by police the presence of the viceroy's residence and several army barracks would make it extremely embarrassing.)
It was possibly the same group that about 100 years later nicked the Portuguese Crown Jewels from a museum in The Hague, as they'd arrived there on loan. 😆
One of Danny Oceans ancestors.
Who? 13:04
Were those jewels pink hearts, yellow moons, green clovers, blue diamonds, and purple horseshoes? I think I have a suspect.
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1971 ??... You should have Orange Stars, but not yet Purple Horseshoes.
@KomradeMikhail here in 'merica we get what WE want, not what the party gives us!
There were actually green clovers. The diamonds were white, not blue. And yes, quite possibly they were taken simply because they represented a pot of gold for the thief.
What’s that black spot above your lip?
I was wondering too. It wasn't on his ending video. I felt like Austin Powers saying "mole"...
I thought it was a "play button" but when I clicked, it only halted the video.
"We all see it .... we ALL see it ..."
What hump- err, black spot?
Hey History Guy! I asked some time ago, but I would be interested to see a video about the only US Vice President to write the music for a #1 Billboard song.
? I’m interested
Charles Dawes. But it is not so simple as that, the hit was a cover almost fifty years later.
Now who is the only US President to hit a hole-in-one? It was not Ike.
When crowns kinda still mattered .
It would take nerves of Irish steel to pull this heist off
I wonder if this wasn't a contributing factor in the subsequent hostilities between these island nations?!
Maybe they were drunk
@@revvyhevvyNo. The hostilities were centuries old due to various massacres, hunger, cultural repression etc
I told Ya - don't kiss the cat !
You don't want to know where that tongue has been!!
Eeeww!!!
The English lost the english Crown jewelery during the civil war......they just made a new one.... no big problem
The english civil war resulted in almost half of the irish population so you should keep your mouth shut
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Beauty contests are becoming a popular way to promote things. For instance, the winner of the Trigonometry Club's beauty pageant was crowned....
Miss Calculation.
Tour Leader pageant winner...
Miss Guided
Encyclopedia Brittanica pageant winner...
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@@flintdavis2Ha ha!
Interesting
Love your videos
No burglers, no teefs. It was an inside job. I find it strange that if they couldn't publicly prosecute and secure them.... they had no power to privately/discreetly secure their return? Take 3 of the biggest suspects into a basement and go to work with pliers and a blow torch. Gentlemen didn't do that sort of thing?
I just saw the title and thought I never knew someone tried to steal Ireland's potatoes. 😳
@Em2theBee, You're so "funny" and "enlightened." You will not become a "comedy" writer--or any kind of writer for that matter.
Bet someone knows.
What other things were lost and never recovered?
Irish I knew
There is a private museum in Boston (I think) that had a robbery in the 80's or 90's, and those items have never been recovered. Someone can help me with the details
Hmmmm! Black Thorne perhaps? Don't rule out The Illuminate!😮
The jewels came from other British badges and jewelry, and they've gone back into other British jewels and jewelry. Everything Britain has done with Ireland has been subversive
Pirates?
One thing is certain, no part if them came my way.
The start of rainy season at the mango farm. good evening
Mr. Lance, did you get the mug of the masked man from the set of the movie 12 O'CLOCK HIGH?
The same mug was used as a part of the story.❤❤❤😮😮😮