Unboxing And Testing Inverters
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- So I have talked to Reliable and they are sending me another 3000w 60v this time at a nice discount.
PO Box 13068 Bradford Centre Ontario L3Z2Y5 If you would like to send me something to review or inverter to fix.
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I'm actually more impressed that you ran 60v through it and it just took it!
It says it's a 48 volt inverter all over it so I would say it's a 48 volt inverter.
Just purchased the 24v version of the 3kw inverter. Ran a mild test of 1800 watts without a single issue. So glad I've watched so many of your videos before I made a purchase.
Same thing happened to me. I ordered a 12 v 600w inverter and they sent me a 24v 800w. I didn't bother returning it. Just use it in a portable bank. I've actually been loving it.
Same happen to me with a 3000 watts inverter, same branch
U got a nice new place & really nice new equipment congrats on the new home .
thanks I love it, I am very Blessed.
hey love your vids bought one of those the 24v 3000watt just awaiting jamaica customs to tell me how much duty to pay been sitting there for a week now any way thats jamaica keep testing you rock
ill let you know what not to do :)
Hey Gringo how is the inverter? I am planning on getting one here in Jamaica.
You do know the quick temp difference when heating a cold electrical device will create condensation right?
I just tested the same inverter but it is 24V DC 120 AC 60hz with two NEW truck battery's (31-1125S) I ran a 1500 Watt heater and a 1500Watt paint stripping gun for ten minutes the cheap clamp meter said 116.5 amp X 22 Volts sagged through the cables that came with the unit read on the front of the inverter and 109 AC Volt out on the inverter. The fans came on in 4 minutes at the first of the test and ran for another 2 minutes after I shut the two heater load off. I left the inverter on so the fans could come on later to finish cool the internals. So with the voltage sag that would be a 2563 Watt test no flickering red light. Ruffly what a V8 starter would draw, The battery's started at 25.2 Volts and finished at 24.7 :)
With the _little_ and _big_ fets:
Actually, from an electronics point of view it is more efficient to use more smaller fets in parallel than fewer bigger ones. That is because any mos-fet transistor has it's own D-S resistance. It can be fractions of an ohm for the higher voltage ones to less than one thousand of an ohm (0.001ohm) for low voltage ones. Now, the lower the D-S resistance, the lower the voltage drop across it and therefor the lower the power dissipated and lost on that fet. More fets in parallel means the total D-S resistance will be lower.
And you can get so low resistances that the copper traces and leads begin to count towards parasitic resistance :D
And the smaller TO220 fets have about the same lead current capabilities as the big TO247 ones so more smaller fets gets the lead current limit higher.
The bigger ones have better high voltage handling and better power dissipation. They are good when you use them in their ohmic region like linear amplifiers, linear current regulations.
And yes... it says on it 48v...
But... again, if the first stage mosfets and the filtering caps and the control circuit can take more voltage without tripping an input OVC protection, the inverter will run more efficient as more voltage at the input requires less amperes for the same input/output power.
It actually should run cooler and longer... if well designed and manufactured... and few are...
you are very smart in this field thanks!! please check out my newer videos :)
I was about to self harm waiting for you to turn that inverter on. Damm
The voltage is too high that's why the red light is lit when these type of inverter have a high voltage they flicker
surprised it did not go pop when it was on 60v battery (was unsure of what was up with it until stated it as 60v when its setup for 48v), the inverter was marked for 48V and the transformer had 48v on the inside as well so one would assume it's a 48V inverter in the incorrect box (it should really have overvoltage protection as it has under voltage) not sure why they stated on where ever you got it from that it had a wide voltage range 48v-68v
LOL I was looking to see if anyone would make this comment! I noticed right away as soon as he took cover off. It had 48V right on one of the transformers. Yes, I give that inverter credit for not letting the smoke out @ 60+ Volts!
you must be loaded! i think you're the king of solar on TH-cam by far.but i enjoy your video's none the lest.i just wish you would do a poor man's version or the best way to get started with a budget system and maybe the best source to get good deals on solar stuff.anyway great interesting videos and thanks for posting. even though you're way outta my league.
haha thank you very much, I just seem to spend to much and my lovely wife does not spend much, I will do as you asked as I am blessed with a little extra, and will put together a on the cheap DIY system that will run a fridge. this will be my new goal!
fliping720
ya that would be perfect. and you're a lucky man to have a low maintenance wife that allows for your high dollar hobby.your video caught my attention because i want to retire in a few years and not having an electric bill would sure help.so I'm watching dozens of video's on solar to make that a reality and yours just blows my mind.anyway i will keep my eyes out on future videos that you post.your system is amazing and never gets old.
Go to amazone you can get the solar starter kit and any inverter stay with the proline potek power bright Krieger or wzrelb if you can get it still the peek work zone 3000 those do true 3000 watt out put
i hope since i sent ya the link for the inverters i hoping your testing will show it a pretty decent brand
I wound up with an Aims 2000 watt inverter charger 24 volt...($653 after coupon) ...it only has one transformer but it has about 10 pounds of copper in it I think so maybe it'll hold up....
I think it will :)
This is why I left the relm of chinese inverters. I have outback radians and am super curious of the magsine
magnasines are amazing!
On your 3000W inverter appears to have...
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You have a - 4 pairs - 2x mos-fet-s IRFP4668 - 9.7m ohm - maiby from Infineon. This is a 130A at 25 deg celsius and 92A continous at 100deg celsius, with 520A pulse.
With 4 pairs, and 4 transformers ( you have 4 sets that can handel around 368A for a short time ) - and a very small impulse of 2.000A ... !!!
You will never reach this... Will blow many other component in the way....
368A on 48V = 17.600W - 17KW. as an impulse. You can start any applyance. The limits are the transformers, wires, and many others....
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IN REALITY = on maximum 3.000W you will have 17A per pair, on 4 pairs = 68 A in a 48V sistem . This inverter will run almoust non stop.
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Let`s go to your new 8.000W. here you have F59N30 - 56m ohm - 59A at 25deg celsius and 35A continous at 100deg celsius and 230A pulse ( disipate 5 times more heat in running regards to - IRFP4668 )
When you run a 8.000 W model it will be hotter than 3.000 W modell. There are people who observe that. At same current ratings almost 5 times hotter the tranzistors...
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in this 8.000W model you have 9 pairs. 9pairs x 35A = 315 Amps max continous --- ATTENTION !!! smaller maximum current than 3000W modell !!!
Maximum pulse can be 230A x 9 pairs = 2070Amps , the same as 3000W modell....
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IN REALITY = 8000W ... WILL HAVE TOTAL -181Amps - IN 9 PAIR = 20Amps - PER PAIR OF TRANZISTORS and transformer ... ( equal with your fuses2x10A, probably something bad calculations, or a scam )
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YOU MUST CHANGE THE TRANZISTOR, PUT THE ORIGINAL THAT ARE IN 3000W MODELL - IRFP4668...
Of course, if there are damage in control board must be repaired.
The fuse 2x10A must be bigger, migt be used 2 x 15A. fuse
Hi friend. I like how you put screwdriver on your battery contacts...i was just thinking ...hmm will we see some explosion or not ... :) It is really dangerous to put anything on those bare wires (pipes in your case :) ) . I like also your hacked watmeter...and cables all over ..This is not safe. I'm saying it just to warn you you could get hurt. please be careful with that stuff. You have too many batteries so you should be really careful. But that is how i see it. Feel free to ignore me if you like :). Anyway nice video.
haha thanks, the screwdriver is to chort to short the bank with out another metal object helping it :D this is just hook up to save me money the full build is still to come.
just hooked up the reliable 3000 watt 48 vdc inverter.. I grounded the unit to an earth ground and the tester I used indicated an open ground when inserted into the inverter's plugs.. anyone else having this problem.
its because the neutral and the ground are not bound inside the inverter, make sure to test if the ground is live on this inverter, 50% have a live ground and can not have the neutral and the ground bonded or the unit will short out, hope this helps you if so please give the video a like!
I hate when I order something and they send the wrong item it's a pain to deal with.
yea but i have made a deal with them :)
fliping720 that's good.
My inverter came with an open ground from the factory and I want to charge my Nissan Leaf which requires a neutral ground bond. How do I get around this so I can charge my car? Thanks.
you can chance the black to yellow/ neutral/ground. or you can make a little extension cord and and on just the female side bond the ground to the neutral, but make sure not to bond the ground between the male and female sides, there are videos on how to make these.
Go to China and have one them Chinese go by you one then pay duty on it and bring it back you will get a good one they keep the good stuff and sell use the rejects
i think i just got the 24 volt version lol im crossing my fingers on this one lol
ill let you know, im good at breaking inverters :(
Im guess Im saving for a magna sine...lol...it seems to be working..they must have silver windings kinda pricey
I have the same inverter 1500w When it reaches 55v during boost all lights flicker. I hope the dirty wave wasn't the reason my fridge broke.
no its not, the sine wave is not even close to as bad as a modified sine wave so your ok,
Thanks for letting me know, just that it was the defrost timer that fried and saw somewhere that the wave affected clocks.
Chinese junk :D Nah i hope you get it sorted but my experience with custom stuff is that they cheat and dont reconfigure/rebuild it. Your incoming voltage to it is a bit higher than usefull for a quick reconfigure to work with the current hardware. I will follow you and we will see what will happen :)
Your Batteries will rise in voltage the warmer they get...
yes, and they self warm when you use them :)
I would like to buy this product I wanna know 3 things
1)how is the product can I get 3000w from it
2)what is the no load current draw
3)is it bad to choose a 12v inverter as it draws too much amps so more heat I can supply all the necessary copper wires still it a bad idea
i have the 800w 12v inverter from the same supplier (reliable electric) and it is working pretty good for about 1 year at 500w continuous.... will be no prob if you run this one at 2300 2400W continuously
thanks for the info!
please can you make a video to test the sine wave with the osilloscope now that you put the inverter on 48V?
I will try to remember to add it to my next video, but I have and it looked good.
okay.. thanks!
can you test this inverter on inductive loads? will it power a fridge for example?
Hi, for the 60V inverter, did you have to have them custom set it for you? I couldn't really find any inverter they listed for 60V? Also what's the cut off voltage set for the 60V version? I'm trying to find a 2000-3000w inverter that can handle up to 64-65volts and cut off at about 56-57volts. Running 16s Chevy Volt. :)
you tell them in the note when u buy the inverter what voltage range u want and they make it custom for you
we think a like I have a video coming soon on a 1500 watt unit I just got from reliable to replace my 500 watt
nice! I am trying them I hope to have a good inverter, time will tell, I like to test mine pretty hard to see if they will break, so others don't have to wast their money.
I have the 1500 watt reliable one in 110v. It worked great until I accidentally turned the grid on with it still hooked up...OOPS! It fried the fuses and a semiconductor. Im waiting for the replacement from china to see if that fixes it. Other than that it worked great!
i have 4000 watt 36v version of this inverter what solar mppt charge controller do you recommend for a decent price...
a Esmart3 or a make skyblue are my cheap charge controller go to.
thanks bro i really appreciate it...
this is 48 volt unit . why you connection 60 volt ?
when I ordered it I told them I wanted a 60v so instead of sending a 60v inverter then sent me a modified verson of a 48v that can go up to 60 volt but it does some weird stuff.
Mine 12v 3000watt does the same thing when its no load on it
Reidar Årstad that sucks seems they need to get the voltage on these right
What does it mean to have a load on it?
I recently purchase a 3kw 12 v unit. Ir woek es lo in stanby for a week, test it for continus uses for 8hr, it fail.
Alarm on, no poder output, blue and red light on.
Julio
Get a new one, they are not bad for warranty
Can I used one for my home 24/7 I bought one in florida and I need it to run my two doors fridge band also my small portable air conditioner for 24/7 if it can't work I will be disappointed
it will run that :)
so, what do you do with the fuses?
nothing they are spare
just sent it thanks
Power factor is not percent. It's the cosine of the I/V delta.
that is the biggest battery bank ive ever seen on youtube lol good review thanks man. what is the usable amp hours available with that monster battery bank?
in this video it was around 1000Ah at 48v, I have a much larger system now :D
check out my videos I have over 500
its not a 12 volt inverter..why would you buy a 48 if you need a 12
It says 48 volts. Why would you think it's 60v??
Cause I had the company modify it to take a higher voltage.
Well it says 48V right on top of it....
it was a modified version of the 48v alawying it to run up to 65v as long as there is a load on the output it was great and is still working, I contacted the manufacturer and got everything worked out.
It's a 48 volts inverter, it's marked all over.
it was a 48v inverter where they increased the max shut off voltage to 68v but anything over 60v would flicker.
That looks incredibly similar to an AIMS inverter.
hmm witch one i have never seen one like this.
Going Off Grid at 5:00 mark: th-cam.com/video/N_0macTBMEY/w-d-xo.html
not o much is the same
i dont see it as being sent the wrong item, i see it as not being sent the ordered item, therefore item ordered has not arrived.... and they can damn well send what i ordered or i will raise hell till i get a refund or the right item....
and if you want this item back i did not order, pay return shipping or come and get it, because after1 week i'm charging you storage....
haha yea, well said!
Link for wave analyzer please?
good afternoon
I have 3000 watts 60N60 Reliable , 4 shunt resistance burned, what kind of resistance should be installed instead of burnt out?
on the input or out put fets?
near the capacitors 450 volts and the board (pure sinusoid DY002 'eg8010 + ir2110') cmd 4 pcs, it seems like designations R100, but when installing cmd 4 pcs 1 W 0.1 ohm inverter bad start not once and then burned in idle, pulling after itself and a board of pure sine
antochca1@gmail.com
I asked the factory-manufacturer Reliable, he sent me test resistance for repair for all transistors, but I can not add a file here, I can share it with anyone.
how to protect the board generator EG8010 + IR2113 driving module from burnout, already changed 3 pcs
I have one of these and the mosfets blew. Fuses are totally useless. 3000w is a stretch. Transformers are too small. I found bits of solder between the legs of the Fets, so manufacture is sloppy. Ordered some replacement mosfets, and the person a Reliable sent test instructions with a link to a video of a chinese guy, testing and replacing blown transistors. His unit still wasnt working and the video cuts off with him hitting the back of the board with pliers. So there you go American Imperialist suckers. Another blow for global communism!
i have a video series of me repairing one of these inverters a subscriber sent me, i have 4 and no problems :S
Going Off Grid yeah I saw that. Reliable sent me Some but NOT all parts needed for repair.
dang, id ask about it man. sorry I cant help more.
hey what would you charge to fix my mppt 60 the electrion put to much voltage to it
have have never fixed one and it would not be with it as it would take me a long time to learn how it works, once the IC are damaged I cant fix them. and over volting sounds like that is would would go first.
I hope someone here can help me. There is a strange voltage/bee sound out of the front of the inverter... Is this normal? Thanks in advance
yes that is normal, it most likely a loose transformer.
It only said 48 volts on it
yea they modified it to work on 60v
I have a problem. I want a type of inverter with bypass but no charge control , do you think this inverters exist
yes but hard to find and will be Chinese.
do you have a item number of factory
I do not but I beleave what you are looking for is a ups inverter
Are reliable inverters neutral to ground isolated or does it spit out 60vs etc between them
I have the 3500 watt 24v version and it has a floating neutral! So, no, it does NOT have a real ground! Yes, 62 volts your right
@@curtchase3730 some do some dont mine does not have live ground
What's the update? I bet they already redesigned.
i have a lot of these inverters now, they have changed the input mosfets from 2 large mosfets per transformer to 4 smaller mosfets per transformer. and have added a current sensor. and smaller tweaks here and there. if you stay under the 4000w mark these are nice inverters as long as your not trying to start a large electric motor.
@@GoingOffGrid101 yes I replaced a unit from this company with what I thought would be the same thing. It was not. It's useless to me now.
@@eksbawkseksbawks5270 you bought 2 inverters from reliable ? what wattage are they ?
very interesting, I just bought a newer 3000w and tested it on video it out put 2800w ish
Nice vid ! this one did fail, after a while ??
Question about your Tracer controllers... I have the Tracer 4210a older model and want to know how much I might be able to over-volt it past 24vdc from the PV panels ?? Tnx rc
I believe the max voltage is 100v on those on the solar side
Tnx ! As you did, I'm learning with 3 small systems presently. If I were to throw more $'s at it, I'd look closer at the Outback models, and of course, lion cells with the BSM units for best practices. At least I'll have PWM controllers for backup. Good advice is very welcome ! I'll most likely get a pair, or 4 of these... www.boviet.com/u/20170629152537555.pdf @ ca $150ea
What would you think of them ? rc
they look good man!
Tnx! New at this, encouragement really helps ! :-) rc
si no tiene el sello LTD no compre la unidad,porque no esta garantizada.
de donde salen los electrones de los inventos que yo fabrico(memorias virtuales y programadores)
Oh no, is this 30 minutes of here we go again?
haha, well I like to think of it more like take two! plus im told its a better inverter :D
Let's see what happens. Hopefully it will work better than this youtube comment downgrade disaster.
Hey on your batt bank is that just copper pipe hammered flat?
yes its 3/4 and works great!
Nice I have a crap ton of copper pipe laying around and gawd I have no idea why I was so dumb and didn't think to use it on my battery's lol damn what a waste of money on heavy wire I spent LOL Thanks man!!!
haha I love it :)
some hing is fishy about the inverters you tubers say its ok and amazoners say it is bad so i will just believe amazoners because in you tube the reviewer may be playing advertising tricks
I have blown one 8000w inverter running it at max power after 1 year and the company sent me a new output board and fixed it. these are cheaper inverter so they are not as bullet proof as higher end inverters also I would say these are better in conditions where your not using them 24/7 more like turn it on when you need it, its like a champion generator VS a Honda.
Can you confirm something for me. I see a reliable 3000w 24v on ebay for 10.99 USD is it real or fake
I would say fake, you cant even ship it for that :S
@@GoingOffGrid101 ok thanks men
FAKE !!!!
Probly a reject get a proline 3000 made by Wagan of amazone
oh man, you have some good ideas but what a mess. Your battery room is SCARY. That enormous battery bank with unshielded copper pipe connectors?!.... this is a very dangerous accident waiting to happen. PLEASE at least clean things up and shield / cover your open connections before you make more videos.
Chinverter lol
i buy this same inverter but 1500wand they send me a bad inverter they say to send them 170 more and they will send me a 3500w inverter 24v , and guess what this one came damage to i open it and they did a cosmetic repair and i lead them know and they sy the is strange, i am still fighting to get my full refund but the giving me the go around the company on ebay is reliable power and they asking me to pay for shipping and i just want a inverter the last long and a good price any one know what will be a good one? i need 3000w and up pure sine and need to be 24v 60 mhz 120v any suggestions
I am sorry, they seem to be a hit and miss company, I have had good luck, and a few others have had bad luck, I would ask ebay to step in and help you!
also go powe,r xantrex, samlex,magna sine are all top end brands, never buy power jack, and I love my reliable inverters sucks a lot you got a bad one.
yes i did but whit the dragging and go around i pass the 30 days so i am asking payPal .
yes i have a 8000w for the pas 2 year but just days ago got the happy smoke lol and i just find out the is a 6000w the vender is Reliable Power and lenyo-0 they are the same company. i really like this inverter just they saler suck , if they clean there act they be the best inverters 4 the price but the need to come clean
what where you running off the inverter when it blew up?
Can this inverter run 1hp pump
most 1hp it can run yes.
no te meta en lo que no te importa,para no mandarte 7 pie bajo tierra(dangerous)
This vid is about 29 minutes too long.
There is this video (th-cam.com/video/XgptEMrRTgQ/w-d-xo.html) about this type of inverters that claims that this inverter from Reliable have a live ground...is your like that too?
Thanks
some do some don't, you have to test when you get the inverter, its no big deal, you can ground before the inverter and your house is grounded, do at your own risk
I would stop over volting these inverters. no matter the quality.
yes I did that and they are sending me a new one that is 60 volt input nominal.
fliping720 you should sell me the 3000 watt at 48 volts 😁
hey how can i send you a personal message
Hey how long did it take for it to show up at your door they are saying 10 days
Can you send it to me
Reliable inverters are shit ive had 3 and they all failed
interesting, what models did you have ?