M-50 Ontos: The Little Tank with 6 Cannons
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The man that built my house in The Upper Peninsula of Michigan served in the USMC during the Cuban Missile Crisis at Git-Mo was an Ontos crew member. It means "Thing" in Greek. He has glorious stories of his service, and of others during this very sensitive time in our nations history. I only found this out when I asked him where he got the name Ontos for his German Shepherd. A true American.
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My dad said between these, gun trucks and f4 phantoms, they were the best weapons we had during the war. Said he watched more than a few ontos obliterate the side of a mountain
Look. Here's the slum lord again
I've heard, from a few sources, that the F4 Phantom was garbage. It definitely lives up to being a huge piece of crap in games. Games aren't usually reliable indicators of irl results but many are pretty in depth when it comes to flight games. I'm not making a statement of fact comment about the F4, I'm just sharing my observations of it.
I've heard from a few sources he's a slum lord
@@karlbush89 it was a good carrier based aircraft
But as a attacker was a joke
bit pants at the beginning an lack of gun made it pretty shit but a gun pod an a few choice fixes was very potent an well loved it cud just pull away from almost anything flying
As a child, I got a model of the Ontos.
I loved it. ALL THOSE GUNS! ! !
At 9yo, I thought this must be the baddest thing on the battlefield.
What do you expect??
I was 9 yo.
I had one too, about the same age....
Loved it..lol
A cheapish, lightly armored and fast 5 and a half ton machine, capable of taking out MBT's I'd say is while not perfect, is a pretty damn well efficient weapon!
They weighed 9 tonnes.
@@BatCaveOz he literally states how many pounds they weigh in the video. A ton is 2000 lbs, no?
That's insanely light @@BatCaveOz
The Thing was quite an interesting weapon system. I had a teacher that fought in the Battle of Hue. During the Vietnam War. He said they were real good when it came to demolishing buildings. Although he did say they were vulnerable to RPG fire.
...And some poor sod had to nip outside to reload the 'Recoilless Rifles'...
@@brianartillery Yep. That's the difference between a tank or assault gun and a fire support vehicle. The modern analog is the 105mm gun Stryker. You definitely want to be ambushing tanks, blowing up bunkers, or reducing obstacles from a long distance with that thing.
@@samobispo1527 - The WW2 Churchill 'Armoured Vehicle Royal Engineers' (A.V.R.E.), had a turret mounted Petard spigot mortar. This fired a 40 pound 'flying dustbin' demolition charge. This was reloaded by the driver's mate/hull gunner, who had to stick his upper body through a specially modified sliding hatch, break the mortar, and manhandle a new forty pound projectile onto the spigot, and then re close the mortar. Often under heavy fire.
Pretty much everything needs to worry about RPGs.
They had to reload from outside true. I still think its a usefull piece of Equipment u use it rather like an Ambush vehicle or Infantry support. I got that thing in Warthunder the AP Shells penetrate 450mm. Tiger2 Frontplate? No Problem. T55? T62? T72? No Problem. But everything bigger than a Rifle round will mess up your Crew. 50cal shooting at you and youre Fucked. So hit, run, hide, hit again🤣
My experience with Allis-Charmers is a farming tractor we had on family's our ranch. It is nearly 50 years old and runs great. I never knew they made military equipment.
I had a grandpa that work at Allis-Charmers. They made a lot of things from tractor to steam turbines even parts for the early space program
Many civilian companies were recruited to build war materials during ww2.
@@jonathanreese6892 Actually now that you mention that, I do recall that they made parts for boosters or something like that.
What model of Allis? My uncle uses one for antique tractor pulls
Allis-Chalmers made all kinds of stuff. They were a major US heavy manufacturer. For example, the turbines at the Hoover Dam and also Aswan Dam in Egypt and many others were made by them. They did full generator sets too and many of those are still around.
Also, I got a 1962 D-17. Industrial model with the gas engine and the Henry Mk IV backhoe and TS1000 loader. Odd duck that. All the hydraulics are made by Cessna. Yes, that Cessna. It's got this rotary actuator thing to swing the boom rather than rams. It's super weird/cool but mostly weird.
I am glad to see Ontos remembered! My best friend Lance Corporal Donald L. Winckler was a crewman on one of these things while I was serving in the Army. He and another Lance Corporal were killed by friendly fire. There was an 81mm short round that hit nearby. I still remember seeing horror films with him in the small-town movie theater in town. "Lest We Forget"
Fun Fact: The Ontos was revived in the tabletop game Battletech and was actually a rather mean tank.
Granted, it also weighs 95 tons in the game!
Came here to say the same. The lore on the unit is that the designer was a military history buff, flipped to a random page, and low and behold, it was the Ontos.
The C&C Generals Mod Tiberian Dawn Redux also has it. Reworked as a scout/AA vehicle.
@@rangerdrakeson that odd moment when the lore is the same as how the game designer created something 🤔
Renwal made a nice 1/32 scale plastic model kit of the M-50 Ontos back in the day.
In Vietnam, the USMC 3rd Anti-Tank Battalion experimented with mounting a searchlight on top of one Ontos. My father was the Bttn Maintenance Officer at the time, and somewhere on the internet there exists a picture of this beast with my father sitting on the front slope plate. If anyone has a copy of that picture, or knows where I can find it, please let me know.
I've always liked the look of the Ontos. Sort of looks like it should be in Star Wars.
It looks like a Soviet ZSU.
Armoured fighting vehicles (AFVs) designed for airborne units really present interesting design considerations. I fact, could you consider doing either a Sideprojects or Megaprojects video relating to the history AFVs designed for airborne/air-droppable operations?
So far, I think the only countries which developed and deployed more successful and advanced designs than the M-50 Ontos would the USSR/Russia (the BMD-series), Germany (the Wiesel-series) and China (heavily based on the Russian BMD-series). What was interesting was the USSR/Russian airborne units were designed to be mostly or wholly mechanised (which meant their own personal family of vehicles and weapon systems designed to be air-droppable with the paratroopers). The latest variants of the Russian BMD-series are designed to be paradropped with their crews/passengers still riding inside them!
Army: "What can we do with this?"
Marines: "What can't we do with this!"
One of the types of specialty rounds the Ontos used were anti-personel "flechette" rounds like a giant shotgun firing fin-stabilized steel darts to penetrate thick forest cover.
The flechettes do not leave the muzzle like shotgun pellets. They are in a soft matrix surrounding a bursting charge contained in a shell. The fuse of the projectile, when it strikes something, initiates the bursting charge which propels the flechettes and shell fragments in an omnidirectional cloud.
As an FO I got to see the fire fights from a unique perspective, and nothing was more awe inspiring than the Ontos leading a battalion assault on a fortified position at night. Never seen any fireworks displays worthy of comparison, even though they still give me the shivers.
Oddly enough, during that time frame the Corps was also saddled with (tanks to the Army, again) what was, arguably, the biggest tank the US had fielded to that date. The M103 Heavy Tank using a 120mm rifled gun. Fired either HE, HEAT or a 60lb solid shot AP round. I know a TC whose M103 went to Bovington.
Yep, the M-103 is/was a massive tank. I have seen two of them (on static outside display) here locally. One where I used to work, and the other outside the VFW. After that VFW shut down, the one there disappeared and I don’t know where it went. They made the M-48/M-60 look small.
@@bigdaddy7119 Yes, a massive tank. I saw one at Aberdeen several years ago. Wonder if it's still there. The casing for the gun was almost identical to the one used on the U.S. 120mm (4.7") AA Gun.
A cousin of mine, dread from cancer related to Agent Orange was told, was a Imagine in Nam. Had some photos of this little beast. Said it was handy clearing jungle shooting at you. He was interesting to hear stories from.
The reason for "105mm" instead of 106 is because of the shells' different design with venting hole in the back, so they can't get mixed up. Firing "standard" shells in a recoilless gun kills said gun... and probably the shooter...
I don’t think you can actually fire a standard 105mm round from a recoilless gun.
@@bob_the_bomb4508 maybe so, but naming it with "incorrect" diameter also prevents mixing up within the supply line. No good shooting with wrong ammo 😁
@@docsinclair4097 that’s absolutely correct. Something the Soviets introduced with their nomenclature after some wrong ammunition was delivered.
Indeed the cap badge of the now amalgamated Royal Army Ordnance Corps showed three cannon with three different sized cannon balls, so apparently it’s a problem that’s been round a while :)
@@docsinclair4097 Indeed, the WW2 Comet tank had a "77mm" gun to avoid any supply confusion with the similar 17pdr rounds.
What about the American battle trucks of Vietnam, interesting how they came about and history
That’s actually a really good topic that he should do. @Simon
Good video. From what I've heard (reading David Drake's accounts in some Hammer's Slammer's compilations I have) the light armor problem was shared by a lot of cavalry armor as well. Both APCs and tanks couldn't stand up to heavy MG fire. And RPGs would ruin their day. Also the soil composition was insanely hard on tracked vehicles as it got into the joints in the tracks and would cause track failure eventually. They spent a lot of time fixing tracks. But that was the only way of pushing armor in the jungle mud.
Interesting video. My father was an ONTOS gunner when he served. Marines.. And in the Tet Offensive.. He liked them. Only thing he hated about them was they were literally ovens on tracks from the jungle heat.
There is one in Indiana at an old WWII base called Camp Atterbury that is used as a NG training base . There is a small outdoor historical vehicle park. One is on display there but has no marker to describe what it is. I'm guessing they reason is they don't know what it is. The thing is tiny.
Can you please cover the competition between the YF-23 and the YF-22.
As an old retired British Bootneck of some 30-years service, you’ll never catch me calling out our brothers in the much younger USMC (Semper Fi mates) because what older brother doesn’t like to see his younger brother take the “ball” and run with it?
I realise/appreciate that my somewhat biased comments will be totally ignored by the vast majority of this channels subscribers, but here’s a sobering thought for the nay-sayers, whatever you do, do not piss off the USMC especially when they’ve got their British mates of the Royal Marine Commandos fighting alongside. You are likely to find your last day on earth as being short and unpleasant - both Marine Corps pride themselves on being outnumbered but being able to bodge together something useful that will scare the pants off the enemy!
We almost had a little airdrop tank with a revolver style recoilless rifle. We were so close! It would have been so cool!
not really cannons but recoiless rifles.
Yeah but 6 recoilless rifles is too long for the title and a lot of people would be confused as to what that even means.
I would love to see a modernized version of the M50 Ontos. One with 6 Javelin or TOW missiles, 4 GAU-21 50 cal. BMGs and a M134 minigun.
I think it is a cool looking tank myself. I could imagine something like that turning up in a Matrix or Terminator franchise movie as some makeshift tank the humans may throw against the Machines.
I remember reading about this vehicle when I was a kid. I thought it was nuts back then, but in a strange and interesting way. I still do.
The 106mm recoiless rifle was on the Ontos, the Mule, and JEEPS.
I think that's the first time I've heard of Swedish tanks being destroyed in action..! In fairness the L-60 was cutting edge in ... the late 1930's...Wasn't the maximum armour thickness on those about 13mm ? I'm trying to imagine what it would be like to be hit by multiple, simultaneous 106 rounds in that. I suspect you wouldn't have much time to register it.....
You mentioned the 'Dominican Civil War' ... I have never heard of such a thing.
Maybe a Side Project on that?
i was recently watching The Lieutenant gene roddenberry... in the episode they were practicing loading the ontos onto a cargo plane. in the comments there was quite a bit of chatter about it from some of those that served with it... sorry i cant remember the episode but its here on yt
There's also one at the Russell Military Museum in Illinois.
Saw some at Quantico near OCS. Wild looking little guys!
Growing up in indiana early sixties allis Chalmers was still building them the test track was on the north side of town dad used to take us there to watch them being tested before shipment during ww2 Sherman tanks were built there used the same test track
How about one on the M551 Sheridan light tank. The US haven't had many light tanks
I didn't even know these things ever existed! Very cool stuff. I'd love to see what you guys could dig up on the gun trucks the US used during Vietnam. Always thought those things were pretty cool. Annnd, if you've already done a video on those, I hope someone sees this and lets me know!
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this guy has a video on gun trucks. good stuff.
Since when has a Bradley been a tank?
In War Thunder we call it “The 6 shooter of DOOM.”
This thing looks like something I'd make in Sprocket
Imagine if a Jeep rolled up with this gun setup? It would be the quickest cheapest tank killer.
They mounted a 105mm recoilless rifle on a Jeep. It only had one though. It couldn’t traverse at all.
The Citadel in Hue is fascinating to visit.
The name is misleading as it was actually the Vietnamese version of the forbidden imperial city.
The Citadel is a fortress on the river but the bulk of the fighting occurred in the walled imperial centre, which was destroyed.
The Vietnamese are slowly rebuilding it building by building but mainly it is ruins surrounded by a wall almost completely covered in shell and bullet holes.
Before the battle it was an intact imperial city like the forbidden city in Beijing.
Oh it's pronounced hew-wey
baby tank .... please be a tank that fires babies out of a cannon ........ well crap.
Ooh, new weekend project!
And yes, my neighbors hate me.
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Here's an idea for a Side Projects video. The Experimental Aircraft Association (EAA) in Oshkosh, Wisconsin. They have a museum of experimental aircraft, duh, but they also host an annual fly-in, now called EAA Airventure, which makes the little airfield nearby the busiest airport in the world, for about a week.
skipping the first 2 minutes improves viewing this video
"I don't even know what a squat is" 😂
Do the m8 greyhound next
Could you do a video on the Elco PT boats? Always thought they were cool, and JFK commanded one in WWII.
You can mount 6 x 105mm recoilless guns on any tractor and transform it into a "tank". ^_^ The idea is great for small countries with limited defense budget.
My Buick was offended
Awesome beard sir
Ontos: The little AFV that could
The US didn't start naming tanks until after WW2 and we got the tradition from the British naming the tanks we shipped over like the Lee, Grant, and Sherman.
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My thoughts exactly.
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Ngl, those look like something out of Borderlands ❤
A video about the Mackinac bridge in Michigan would be interesting
The beard is befitting of a tank need good job
The Little Tank That Could
Maybe a 305 GMC V-6? It was used in heavy truck, school busses,etc. Never heard of a GM 302 that could reliably power a tank. I could be wrong tho. Awesome video
I was wondering about that too. Wiki says straight 6.
Another article says it was same straight 6 that was used in yhe 2.5 ton trucks.
Wiki says "Chrysler 361 cu in (5.92 l) V8 engine" was added later.
M50A1: Chrysler HT-361-318 V8 liquid-cooled engine (180 hp)
Nice work
"Portion", NO. Half! The 90mm, 106mm and other RRs vent 50% of the total ejecta out the vented breech and the other 50% including the projectile leave the muzzle. That's how they get to be recoilless.
Anyone else think this tank is perfect for the Tau?
Nope, more of a guard vehicle
Good job! Now a Biographic vid on António de Oliveira Salazar, Portugal's dictaor please.
I would love to see some videos about gear used in the Finnish Winter War.
It looks like something we would buy as a toy. Hail Cobra.
Stelio.
Stelio Ontos.
Stelio.
2min?! That's 14% of your video until it starts!
I would like to see a video on the siege of the Marines in and around Khe Sanh(Vietnam)on one of your channels Simon!
I don't mean to rip on the commercial sponsorships of these videos, but I wonder how they correlate with the themes of the videos sometimes. "Hey, are you thinking of doing a story about tanks? Those usually come in green metal casings... as does our product!!!" :)
Good video 👍
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When the smallest tank on the battlefield has the most guns
Do a video on the M26 Pershing tank
Correction: Recoiless Rifles are not cannon.
2:00 Start
Did you do a video on the tet offensive yet
The best defense is a good offense
Why use a sniper rifle when you can just go in with a blunderbuss instead? :P
Range.
Excellent video 📹 👏
The Marines have different requirements than Army.
Good for urban warfare
It’s also damned good as close combat artillery. It’ll kill a machine gun nest easily.
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Not 6 cannons but 6 recoiless rifles or rocket launchers.
How about the Sheridan?
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I live in Wyoming, where is this museum you speak of?
6419 US Highway 26
Dubois, WY 82513
north of 80 near the teton forest
The M2/M3 Bradley is NOT a tank...the M2 is an IFV with a 9 man Infantry crew & the M3 is the recce variant with only a 5 man Scout crew
Ontos: Greek for"Thing".
Never seen an kontos before. So cool. My dad raved about them.
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@@charlotteowens4644 I door too.
As in Allis-Chalmers Milwaukee, bitches! Oh, yeah!
This tank is playable in the pc game Battlefield Vietnam.
The US was in Vietnam from the 40s
Looks like something from Robotech.
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Can't wait to get it in war thunder
Wait, wasn't it the British that started naming American tanks after American generals during WWII?
K Shan?
106mm not 105.