This is a sly attempt by the bbc (the British establishment) to compare it to what Israel is doing to Palestinians because of SA support for Palestine.
Being illegal in the country, trespassing a mine, no permits, no environmental precautions and not following lawful orders... I can't cry about the fate of these "miners"
2:38 if they refused to leave... 😐 Then this isn't the government's fault. People can't expect the government to go down there after they told the illegal workers to came out. But they didn't want to get arrested; so they stayed. The government officials isn't going to risk their lives. The illegal workers knew how dangerous it was. God be with them
Not just miners but illegal foreign nationals with heavy machinery, having been warned, chased by the police but always find a way of getting back to these closed mines
Last month they were waiving heavy artillery and challenging police. Only in South Africa you can find immigrants armed with military guns and openly challenging police
@russell-di8js BS BBC does not even report on their OWN issues without bias. Ther is CLEARLY something wrong within their ra ks. Certainly not a BRITISH broadcasting corporation. One just has to watch/read a small amount of their local reporting; and global.
The miners are not stranded they refuse to resurface to avoid arrest and deportation. Most of them are from the surrounding countries. Communities are affected by the high crime rate and raping our women most common because they are illegal cannot be traced.
It's not miners, it's illegal miners from neighboring countries who are also illegal immigrants mostly Lesotho. They come to South Africa illegally and go to mines that are nolonger operating to look for left over minerals. These people are like mafias who have all sorts of guns, it's like cartels for mining sites.
They've cut supplies to 1000s of illegal miners? Sounds right, nothing is going in to illegal miners is hardly clickbait. If your uneducated on a topic it's best not to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon, but the title isn't clickbait whatever argument you make! Nice white photograph you use so why you so upset with the BBc? Clickbait? you don't understand $h%te bro.
Those criminals are not trapped and it is not 4500 . It is 350 criminals hiding underground with military guns. Is there any policeman who will walk into his grave by trying to rescue these criminals
I hate the ANC as much as the next person. They are corrupt, arrogant and incompetent. That being said, the Minister is correct in this situation. The miners must come out and can recieve food and water, or stay in there. Why should cops enter a dangerous mine with armed gunmen to bring people out who could just exit the mine themself? I never thought I'd say this, but I actually agree woth the way the ANC is handling this
Good action taken by African Govt against unauthorise persons mining is dangerous work what was reason may be inflation or poorness. Thanks to BBC for reporting on due time.
Those illegal miners are not trapped are just there underneath working . How can they be trapped in their own territory, Some of them must be going in and of that mine because those tunnels can go anywhere
There are no jobs, so the gangs flourish, and bad situations like this happen. Meanwhile, the South African oligarchs sit on more wealth than they need for a thousand lifetimes. Just like here, the oligarchs own the gov't so nothing will change. Is a sad situation that can only end badly. God help them.
Make this mining activity formal. It's a shame that if it was Chinese or Anglo-American, they would be given right to mine in Africa. It's not all miners that are illegal foreigners but as well as South Africans who are finding life difficult to live. African government can end illegal mining by making it formal, and then you won't be faced by this problem. Also,nationalise mines such locals can benefit then you won't have a problem with poverty that couse illegal mining activity
😂 they're all black. And they don't believe in that liberal stuff. That's African 😐 they delete liberals & gay people over there. They locks gay people in jail for life. Are you on drugs? Ohhhh like 5% white Africans.
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How? If they want water, they can just come out and get it. They just don't want to be arrested for committing a crime...too bad. Why must cops enter a dangerous mine to bring water to armed criminals, simply because they refuse to come up for a fear of arrest? Sorry, but no. They can come out, be arrested and receive food and water, or stay down there. Their choice
You give them water, food they will stay underground forever n remember they have a choice to come out or stay there. They were given food n water guess what....they never came out
@dududugwala1059 well put. The BBC, DW News, and no international media seems to be covering the fact that they were given food and water yesterday after they claimed to be too tired and dehydrated to come up. And after getting food and water, they STILL refuse. And the media just seems to ignore it
Everybody knows there are South Africans in there as well, they have a choice to come out, they just don’t want to, so nothing to be ashamed of, maybe there families can go and fetch them out.
Who's told them to stay there. They are given they freedom to come out and they decide to rather stay there and unalive themselves. Do you understand the word "illegal miners "? Do you know how armed those people are? Do you know what they done to the women in those areas. Don't come and bore us.
The humanity is not letting our police to go down a mine that is close & is unstable. They have families. Those illegal miners have killed far too many of our police. If the want water & food they come resurface..
Don't be silly...these illegal miners are just avoiding arrest because police have them surrounded. They're not trapped. They can find food and water in prison. And Lastly this is way different than what Israel is doing.
They're not trapped and they can come up whenever they want. They choose to avoid getting arrested. So this is completely on them. Police have these entrances surrounded.
The decline of south Africa over the last 30 years should be warning to letting people from the African continent in general in government and public service in the west. They couldn't run a bath never mind a functioning society built and handed over to them.
They are refusing to come out. police have been sending them food and water- they still refused to come out. so they blocked the supplies hoping to flush them out- and yet they still remain under ground. this is an old abandoned mine with dangerous unpredictable conditions. sending people down there is risky. just google Zama Zamas sotho nationals. you will see how heavily armed they are. Weapons that cant be licensed to civilians. but they have access for some reason. i am suspecting some serious funding behind this.
Nobody is trapping anybody, they refuse to come out. If you feel so sorry you are most welcome to go help them, we had enough of illegal miners graping and terrorising our communities. If you feel sick we feel even sicker, we are forced to live with these criminals
If this is a disused mine then I wouldn't expect those who get into trouble to be rescued, but if people are prepared to take a risk why not just leave them alone and let them try and make a living, as long as they aren't causing pollution or environmental damage?
By law most mines leave supporting pillars in order for future safety once mines are closed. These miners go in mines and remove these pillars thus ensuring unstable areas are created.
They don't want to help their people they want the police to do it knowing how ruthless those miners can be towards the police. We may never see those cops again
Very sad. They can't help criminals while they are taking care of hard-core criminals feeding, medically treating and clothing them in jails. What a reasoning! The opposition parties should come in and show the this criminal apartheid Unity Government. This is inhuman, stupid, criminal and arrogant action from the governent. The current unemployment situation cos these people to illegally participate in this.
These are illegal foreigners, they wer told to come out but ddnt want to cos they dnt want to get arrested and deported. Its on them. ANC cant be using taxpayers money on criminals.
Nonsense they have a choice which they refuse to even make the decision to either come out freely or either they want to go unalive and they decided to stay there and pay they price taking they last breath. So they had a choice to go join the rest in jail, but no, they don't want to. You can't expect our government to send our officials down there for those criminals underground who are heavily armed to hold our officials hostage when they go and help them. Mxm
I don’t understand why the media in South Africa keeps lying and adding full statement to this story first of all they are not hiding. They are trapped under the ground and they need help to be rescued. It’s an obligation that the authorities of Sasha should help them.
Those of you clueless fool's... here's a context :they are not trapped,they refuse to come out and they are heavily armed
I know I'm so pissed off by this narrative that they are treated unfairly.
This is a sly attempt by the bbc (the British establishment) to compare it to what Israel is doing to Palestinians because of SA support for Palestine.
thx for letting us know. No point watching BBC for anything. Just get lied to.
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The BBC is know for misinformation and lying. Thy cannot be trusted.
They are not stranded ...they refuse to come out, dont create your own story
And they are illegal immigrants too
Being illegal in the country, trespassing a mine, no permits, no environmental precautions and not following lawful orders... I can't cry about the fate of these "miners"
I stand with the minister
And let's not forget how they terrorise the local communities. These are armed gangs who make money through illegal mining. They are not victims
2:38 if they refused to leave... 😐 Then this isn't the government's fault. People can't expect the government to go down there after they told the illegal workers to came out. But they didn't want to get arrested; so they stayed. The government officials isn't going to risk their lives. The illegal workers knew how dangerous it was. God be with them
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@@jeremyhall2727 our government didn't send anyone underground
They are there illegally. Change your narrative. Theg can come out.
Not just miners but illegal foreign nationals with heavy machinery, having been warned, chased by the police but always find a way of getting back to these closed mines
Last month they were waiving heavy artillery and challenging police.
Only in South Africa you can find immigrants armed with military guns and openly challenging police
Everyone has a right to have access to food and water.
That's international law
@@cefasfah85 then tell them to come out and get food and water,no one is stopping your criminals
@cefasfah85 International law makes no sense as a concept as it is only selectively "enforced" please bugger off with your nonsense
Why BBC Africa always report false information almost all the time?
They don't it's your mind-set, listen to a wider set of ppl & escape the conspiracy echo chamber you appear to be locked in.
@russell-di8js BS BBC does not even report on their OWN issues without bias. Ther is CLEARLY something wrong within their ra ks. Certainly not a BRITISH broadcasting corporation. One just has to watch/read a small amount of their local reporting; and global.
They like doing fake news.
The miners are not stranded they refuse to resurface to avoid arrest and deportation. Most of them are from the surrounding countries. Communities are affected by the high crime rate and raping our women most common because they are illegal cannot be traced.
I stand with minister Ntshaveni
Yes she is 🎯
It's not miners, it's illegal miners from neighboring countries who are also illegal immigrants mostly Lesotho. They come to South Africa illegally and go to mines that are nolonger operating to look for left over minerals. These people are like mafias who have all sorts of guns, it's like cartels for mining sites.
It is time for South Africans to swallow their pride and vote white government 2029
Your reporting is wrong ... please get the whole story and broadcast it ... dont report lies
No. They don’t want to come out!
They are not stranded. Come on guys. They don't want to come out
What the fuck is this?! Why is our news always so exaggerated?!😮
I am going to report this channel. You're too lazy to do proper research and tell the world the truth and it's sickening to see.
I reported too
Me too
Are there people who still believe BBC news and its reporters these days? False and sensational reporting is quite disgusting Nomsa Maseko.
She gets the Pounds uNomsa yaz and the truth is the casualty but hey
Thank you South Africa to make sure we speak the truth whatever it cost we don't allow the media to control our narrative
Most click bait title
They've cut supplies to 1000s of illegal miners? Sounds right, nothing is going in to illegal miners is hardly clickbait. If your uneducated on a topic it's best not to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon, but the title isn't clickbait whatever argument you make! Nice white photograph you use so why you so upset with the BBc? Clickbait? you don't understand $h%te bro.
The media is blowing this out of proportion. The reporter even said that they have a good supply of toothpaste and vinegar.
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4:18 yeah there's no point going down there. That's some mad max underground stuff
Obey the law , Don't cut corner , When you don't agree ; Try to change the law peacefully
Those criminals are not trapped and it is not 4500 . It is 350 criminals hiding underground with military guns.
Is there any policeman who will walk into his grave by trying to rescue these criminals
With BBC reporting we know that "SOMETHING" HAS HAPPENED. "HOW" ITS HAPPENED is a different story.
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"we're too weak to come out! any chance you could send some volunteers in to help us? preferably some nice fat ones?"
The reporter on the scene there could probably stand giving them some of her food.
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Only solutions they must come out
What's wrong with mainstream media and false narratives 😮
no one is telling you how many innocent people zama zamas are killing in South Africa
They have said with their own mouth that the is no Law in south Africa
It's very sad that Nomsa Maseko is reporting lies and she's very confident doing so...
Lanisters would have sealed the mine....
And how would they pay their debts without the gold? 🪙
You cant use starvation as a weapon to combat crime
They are free to come out, the problem is that a lot of them are already on the police radar for all sorts of crimes.
They are free to come out alot of food is outside that mine
Seriously, disgusting reporting. They are refusing to come out. They are illegal..
Finally the cops grew a pair of balls
Where else would miners hide?
The country is Republic of South Africa.
South Africa is the region.
Southern Africa is the region South Africa is the Country
Loud and wrong 🤭
NO THEY REFUSE TO COME OUT
Another ANC failure
Or yes big time I hate them
How did ANC fail?
I hate the ANC as much as the next person. They are corrupt, arrogant and incompetent. That being said, the Minister is correct in this situation. The miners must come out and can recieve food and water, or stay in there. Why should cops enter a dangerous mine with armed gunmen to bring people out who could just exit the mine themself? I never thought I'd say this, but I actually agree woth the way the ANC is handling this
Some of them came out
Good action taken by African Govt against unauthorise persons mining is dangerous work what was reason may be inflation or poorness. Thanks to BBC for reporting on due time.
You won't allow illegality in your country but you quick to judge elsewhere.
Youre job is to serve and protect! This is not Marikana!
Where have you seen people brush their teeth underground and have enough toothpaste to eat,???with vinegar, instead of getting out.
Those people are NOT trapped they refuse to come out because they don't want to go to jail.
Those people are heavily armed.
I stand with God... He'll judge ... Have mercy on us all ...
The main culprits are the people who are buying gold from these criminals, we need to know who they are working or selling gold to
Where that HRC
The miners would rather stay underground then live above in modern south Africa 😢
Not just miners, illegal miners
WTF are u talking about they are illegal foreign miners and they are armed
Illegal miners
I guess you didn't actually listen to the video.
lol
Allah is just and compassionate . Thank you South Africa. Amiin 🙏
We know who owns the media worldwide
High time the South African government was sanctioned by the UN. My heart goes out to those poor civilian resistance miners.
Do your homework.
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I always do. You might try doing the same. But thank you for your empty response.
They are heavily armed.
heeee banna!! "illegal miners targeted"what the F?! BBC or Nigeria BBC are ill?
bbc will not let anybody else so mining
Those illegal miners are not trapped are just there underneath working . How can they be trapped in their own territory, Some of them must be going in and of that mine because those tunnels can go anywhere
please, get proper facts and don't create unnecessary and confusing information. your channel is going down as many others
why such a lie
Everyone on the comment complaining about the false news also report the channel for misinformation!!!!
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Do they pay tax on their sales of the gold.
This is the epitome of propaganda.
This is evil
that is because some are illlegal immigrants wanted for numerous crimes and murders. And they are heavily armed, the law has to be followed.
Not minier their 9
There are no jobs, so the gangs flourish, and bad situations like this happen. Meanwhile, the South African oligarchs sit on more wealth than they need for a thousand lifetimes. Just like here, the oligarchs own the gov't so nothing will change. Is a sad situation that can only end badly. God help them.
Find out who are they working for, is it the Investors?
Lies Lies Lies.
What?
The local people in the area are constantly ha
I can’t get over how HATEFUL the world has become 😢
Bullshit. They not trapped, they refuse to come out and they armed like mercenaries. Like an army.
They are bad people doing bad things
Arresting thief is hateful now?
Again.Just google Zama Zama guns.These guys have heavy guns and they rape females around those mines...Our African Brothers are a big problem in SA
Her story is not correct, the miners refused to come out when they were told to, to avoid being arrested
Terrible reporting
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What kind of false reporting is this😂😂
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Make this mining activity formal. It's a shame that if it was Chinese or Anglo-American, they would be given right to mine in Africa. It's not all miners that are illegal foreigners but as well as South Africans who are finding life difficult to live. African government can end illegal mining by making it formal, and then you won't be faced by this problem. Also,nationalise mines such locals can benefit then you won't have a problem with poverty that couse illegal mining activity
No wonder criminals are in charge ...you treat them like VIP's
@@dududugwala1059💯 Then they blame government when chaos erupts
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😂 they're all black. And they don't believe in that liberal stuff. That's African 😐 they delete liberals & gay people over there. They locks gay people in jail for life. Are you on drugs? Ohhhh like 5% white Africans.
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That is so inhuman
No it is not they are armed criminals
I pray they're saved 😥😥
You know they are armed down there ryt and they refused to come out.
They can save themselves buy going to the surface
They dont need to be saved,they must merely surface by themselves
Save your prayers, no one is stopping them from coming out ,, those people are dangerous
@@pinkyjafta3292 They're too weak to climb out now, the reporter stated...prayers
Has anyone told the ICJ about this South African genocide?
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While the situation is very serious, the denial of water is, in my opinion, a criminal act.
How? If they want water, they can just come out and get it. They just don't want to be arrested for committing a crime...too bad. Why must cops enter a dangerous mine to bring water to armed criminals, simply because they refuse to come up for a fear of arrest? Sorry, but no. They can come out, be arrested and receive food and water, or stay down there. Their choice
You give them water, food they will stay underground forever n remember they have a choice to come out or stay there. They were given food n water guess what....they never came out
@dududugwala1059 well put. The BBC, DW News, and no international media seems to be covering the fact that they were given food and water yesterday after they claimed to be too tired and dehydrated to come up. And after getting food and water, they STILL refuse. And the media just seems to ignore it
These men are armed and are gangs! It’s unfair for anyone to risk they life’s like that
I don't agree with you that, they are not South African people. You are going to be ashamed to find out that these people are South African people.
Everybody knows there are South Africans in there as well, they have a choice to come out, they just don’t want to, so nothing to be ashamed of, maybe there families can go and fetch them out.
This is sad were is humanity 😢
Who's told them to stay there. They are given they freedom to come out and they decide to rather stay there and unalive themselves. Do you understand the word "illegal miners "? Do you know how armed those people are? Do you know what they done to the women in those areas. Don't come and bore us.
They were told to come out and refused, its on them. We cant be using Tax payers money for this illegal foreigners.
The humanity is not letting our police to go down a mine that is close & is unstable. They have families. Those illegal miners have killed far too many of our police.
If the want water & food they come resurface..
This has got nothing to do with humanity they are armed criminals
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And south africa,,make cases against Israel for cut off supplies😂😂😂
Don't be silly...these illegal miners are just avoiding arrest because police have them surrounded. They're not trapped. They can find food and water in prison.
And Lastly this is way different than what Israel is doing.
This is an amusing bit of hypocrisy.
They're not trapped and they can come up whenever they want. They choose to avoid getting arrested. So this is completely on them. Police have these entrances surrounded.
@@obsidianjane4413 It is not, research more maybe you'll be educated.
@@chadnewham5633Nothing to research here. Illegal miners don't want to come out because police are waiting to arrest them
The decline of south Africa over the last 30 years should be warning to letting people from the African continent in general in government and public service in the west.
They couldn't run a bath never mind a functioning society built and handed over to them.
Elon musk's mines??
I like how you say illegal yet the Land belongs to them
“The land belongs to them” is u high? This are foreigners who were told countless times to stop the illegal minings.
they are illegal immigrants
So you want a free for all ?
The la nd belongs to South Africans, not the illegal migrants who are mining illegally in a sovereign country.
They are not from south africa
State committing murder
No one is forcing them to stay down there, are they?
If the police started filling in the mine openings then yes
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They refused to come out. How is this the government's fault? There's no point in risking more lives
They are refusing to come out. police have been sending them food and water- they still refused to come out. so they blocked the supplies hoping to flush them out- and yet they still remain under ground.
this is an old abandoned mine with dangerous unpredictable conditions. sending people down there is risky. just google Zama Zamas sotho nationals. you will see how heavily armed they are. Weapons that cant be licensed to civilians. but they have access for some reason. i am suspecting some serious funding behind this.
I feel sick. This is inhuman. SHAME ON SOUTH AFRICA. How can you trap fellow humans underground. Where is that done?
Nobody is trapping anybody, they refuse to come out. If you feel so sorry you are most welcome to go help them, we had enough of illegal miners graping and terrorising our communities. If you feel sick we feel even sicker, we are forced to live with these criminals
If this is a disused mine then I wouldn't expect those who get into trouble to be rescued, but if people are prepared to take a risk why not just leave them alone and let them try and make a living, as long as they aren't causing pollution or environmental damage?
By law most mines leave supporting pillars in order for future safety once mines are closed. These miners go in mines and remove these pillars thus ensuring unstable areas are created.
They don't want to help their people they want the police to do it knowing how ruthless those miners can be towards the police. We may never see those cops again
Very sad. They can't help criminals while they are taking care of hard-core criminals feeding, medically treating and clothing them in jails. What a reasoning! The opposition parties should come in and show the this criminal apartheid Unity Government. This is inhuman, stupid, criminal and arrogant action from the governent. The current unemployment situation cos these people to illegally participate in this.
These are illegal foreigners, they wer told to come out but ddnt want to cos they dnt want to get arrested and deported. Its on them. ANC cant be using taxpayers money on criminals.
Nonsense they have a choice which they refuse to even make the decision to either come out freely or either they want to go unalive and they decided to stay there and pay they price taking they last breath. So they had a choice to go join the rest in jail, but no, they don't want to. You can't expect our government to send our officials down there for those criminals underground who are heavily armed to hold our officials hostage when they go and help them. Mxm
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I don’t understand why the media in South Africa keeps lying and adding full statement to this story first of all they are not hiding. They are trapped under the ground and they need help to be rescued. It’s an obligation that the authorities of Sasha should help them.
They are not trapped, they do not want to come out, these are armed criminals you go down and help them out
Who must risk their lives to rescue them. The mine is unstable. They knew that already wen they entered, illegally.
SA government busy suing Israel I guess..
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